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Greek Government Press Briefing, 11-03-29Greek Government Press Briefings in ASCII Greek Directory - Previous Article - Next ArticleFrom: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.--1427249692-752562010-1301428116=:30109 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn Trith, 29 Martioy 2011 Ariqmos Deltioy: 323990927 Ekdosh 1 BRIEFING(290311) KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS Aqhna, 29 Martioy 2011H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPOGIWRGO PETALWTH Kalo meshmeri. Oi prospaqeies ths kybernhshs kai fysika oi qysies twn politwn apodidoyn karpoys. Gia prwth fora aytes oi qysies diasfalizontai, pianoyn topo kai ajiopoioyntai gia ena kalytero ayrio. Stekomaste sta podia mas kai synexizoyme th syllogikh mas prospaqeia. Oi polites antilambanontai oti h prospaqeia apodidei. Hdh, ta epishma stoixeia deixnoyn pws to baqytero shmeio ths yfesiakhs poreias ths oikonomias anhkei sto parelqon. O ryqmos anaptyjhs trimhno me to trimhno exei arxisei kai beltiwnetai apo ta mesa toy 2010 kai perimenoyme na mpoyme se qetikoys ryqmoys pros to telos toy 2011. Opws exoyme pei, basei sxedioy, syntonismenwn prospaqeiwn kai meqodikhs doyleias, to 2012 qa einai xronia poy qa epanelqoyme sthn anakamch ths oikonomias kai sthn anaptyjh. Exoyme apo twra idiaitera enqarryntika stoixeia gi' ayto. Oi ejagwges to teleytaio trimhno ayjhqhkan kata 40% se sxesh me to antistoixo perysino trimhno. Oi ellhnikes ejagwgikes epixeirhseis ekmetalleyontai tis eykairies poy anoigontai kai ta diaqesima ergaleia anaptyjhs, anaktoyn thn antagwnistikothta kai thn aparaithth ejwstrefeia kai trofodotoyn me poiotika ellhnika proionta tis dieqneis agores. Synepeia aytoy einai h shmantikh meiwsh toy ejwterikoy elleimmatos ths xwras kai h anodos toy oikonomikoy klimatos, en genei, kaqws oi ejagwges symparasyroyn kai seira allwn proiontwn kai yphresiwn. Apodeiknyoyme pws otan qeloyme, mporoyme. Pws otan to kratos diaqetei ta aparaithta, ta endedeigmena ergaleia kai kyriws th boylhsh tote h agora, oi epixeirhseis antapokrinontai qetika, ekmetalleyontai tis eykairies kai tis metatrepoyn se proodo kai anaptyjh. Etsi skopeyoyme na synexisoyme ston krisimo tomea ths anaptyjhs, akomh perissotero, me sygkekrimenh stoxeysh, me anadeijh twn sygkritikwn pleonekthmatwn kai ths poiothtas twn proiontwn mas, me mia anaptyjh poy qa einai biwsimh, qa einai stoxeymenh kai se ena diaforetiko montelo apo edw kai pera, poy qa prosferei kai qa anoigei qeseis ergasias kai fysika ola ayta, pros ofelos toy Ellhna polith. KOYTRAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, wraia mas ta paroysiasate, wstoso prepei na sas pw oti enas ek twn koryfaiwn ypoyrgwn sas, o k. Loberdos, to prwi eipe oti h kybernhsh den leei olh thn alhqeia gia thn oikonomia. Kai qelw na sas rwthsw jekaqara ean jeroyme kai ean exete pei olh thn alhqeia stoys Ellhnes polites. PETALWTHS: Den qa sxoliasw apospasmatika, mesa se polla alla, poy eipe o k. Loberdos. Na shmeiwsw oti o ypoyrgos anaferqhke se polla kai shmantikotata qemata toy ypoyrgeioy toy, to opoio epitelei pragmati ena poly megalo ergo gia toys Ellhnes polites. Ekeino omws poy mporw na pw einai oti se ena poly reysto periballon, san to shmerino, toy opoioy oi anatropes einai poly megales kyriws se eyrwpaiko kai dieqnes epipedo, opoy pragmatika me poly megalo kopo kai qysia kerdisame thn ajiopistia mas pros toys etairoys, prospaqoyme na prosarmozomaste, prospaqoyme na apotinajoyme kai na apobaloyme oloys ekeinoys toys astaqmhtoys paragontes poy mas kanoyn, polles fores, na mhn mporoyme na eimaste staqeroi teleiws stoys stoxoys mas, alla na yparxoyn kai kapoies parekkliseis. Ekeino, omws, poy einai pragmatikothta, einai oti doyleyoyme. Kai otan yparxei doyleia, meqodikothta kai sxedio, oles oi elleiceis, pragmatika, symplhrwnontai, oles oi anatropes antimetwpizontai kai ayto fainetai kai krinetai ek toy apotelesmatos. Qa protimoysame ki emeis na eimaste se mia periodo opoy mporoyme na kanoyme enan teleio programmatismo, na kanoyme teleies stoxeyseis se poly megalo baqos kai se poly ychlo epipedo, prospaqwntas omws na apokthsoyme ki ena baqos xronoy stoys sxediasmoys mas. Ki edw exei sxesh kai to mesoproqesmo strathgiko sxedio. Prospaqoyme kai thn kaqhmerinothta na thn antimetwpisoyme me eilikrineia, me meqodikothta kai me pollh doyleia. KOYTRAS: Ara, an katalaba kala apo thn apanthsh sas, ontws, h kybernhsh den mas leei olh thn alhqeia, giati piqanotata den jerei olh thn alhqeia h allazei h alhqeia. PETALWTHS: H kybernhsh, doyleyontas se ena reysto topio, paleyontas me poly sklhra zhthmata ths pragmatikothtas, kanei to kalytero dynato kai prosarmozetai, prosarmozei to sxedio ths kai th meqodikothta ths, panw sta dedomena poy, polles fores, allazoyn kai briskontai mprosta mas. Exei apodeixqei omws - kai milame ek toy apotelesmatos pleon kai ayto einai to shmantiko - oti briskomaste pleon se ena xroniko shmeio poy den eimaste oyte sta logia, oyte sto sxediasmo. Eimaste se fash ylopoihshs ki exoyme hdh kai paragomena, epiteloys, apotelesmata. Ara, basei twn apotelesmatwn, apodeiknyetai oti h kybernhsh kanei ena ergo, to opoio bgazei th xwra apo ena faylo kyklo anajiopistias, ypanaptyjhs kai yfeshs, exontas poly dromo mprosta mas akomh. Alla yparxoyn ekeina ta exeggya - kai ayta ta dhmioyrgei h kybernhsh - prokeimenoy na mporesoyme na bgoyme apo thn krish me ton pio asfalh tropo. MOYRELATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, na synagw to symperasma ap' osa eipate oti kai h ejaggelia ths kybernhshs, edw kai arketoys mhnes, oti sto telos toy 2011 qa bgei stis dieqneis agores ephreazetai apo ayth th reystothta kai ara phgainei xronika ligo pio pisw h qa eisaste synephs s' ayth th desmeysh sas; PETALWTHS: Prwta ap' ola den einai qema desmeyshs. Einai qema prooptikhs, giati to xroniko shmeio poy qa bgoyme stis agores den ejartatai mono apo emas. Ayto einai sigoyro. Alla o stoxos mas einai aytos, paramenei aytos, na mporesoyme mexri to telos toy 2011 na bgoyme stis agores. Kai prospaqoyme na dhmioyrghsoyme oles ekeines tis proypoqeseis, san kybernhsh, etsi wste aytos o stoxos mas pragmatika na ylopoihqei. Exoyme kairo mprosta mas, doyleyontas kaqe mera sklhra, me prwtognwres synqhkes, alla o stoxos mas safws kai paramenei mexri teloys toy 2011 na mporesoyme na bgoyme stis agores. MOYRELATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mia deyterh erwthsh ep` aytoy. Eipate ``o stoxos''. Ektimate, loipon, oti aytos o stoxos einai realistikos; PETALWTHS: To na bgoyme stis agores to 2011; MOYRELATOS: Nai. PETALWTHS: Bebaiws. KEXAGIA: Kyrie ypoyrge, h kybernhsh aisqanetai eytyxhs otan enas ypoyrgos ths leei oti den leei thn alhqeia ston ellhniko lao gia thn oikonomia, oysiastika, ekferontas enan logo analogo me ayton ths antipoliteyshs. PETALWTHS: As mhn apomonwnoyme ena shmeio poy piqanon na eipe kapoios ypoyrgos. Oi ypoyrgoi, oi boyleytes kai ta stelexh ths kybernhshs toy PA.SO.K exoyn agwnia, ekfrazoyn thn agwnia toys. Polles fores, antanakloyn thn koinh gnwmh. Ayth thn anhsyxia kai thn agwnia den mporoyme na thn poinikopoioyme. Ekeino to opoio exoyme na poyme, einai ayta poy anefera prohgoymenws: Ginetai mia sklhrh doyleia. Mesa se ena poly reysto topio katafernoyme kai isorropoyme, katafernoyme kai dinoyme to paron mas san kybernhsh kai epiteloys, katafernoyme na exoyme paragomeno apotelesma. Ayth einai h pragmatikothta. Mia pragmatikothta poy anagnwrizei sysswmos o ellhnikos laos, para tis diaforetikes proseggiseis, tis kriseis, tis anhsyxies kai tis agwnies poy ekfrazontai. GARGALAKOS: Kyrie ypoyrge, na sas kanw mia erwthsh poy phgazei apo to xwro ths N.D. Giati apo ekei akoysthke h kathgoria oti krybetai to PA.SO.K. pisw apo ta senaria sygkybernhshs me th N.D. To eipe malista o idios o k. Samaras. PETALWTHS: Profanws, prokeitai gia nea fantasiwsh toy k. Samara. Eida tis dhlwseis toy kai malista anefere oti den qa dexqei na symmetexei se mia sygkybernhsh toy PA.SO.K. Egw ayto poy exw na apanthsw einai: Kai poios toy to proteine; Einai dynaton sth shmerinh epoxh poy o k. Samaras kai to komma toy, poy oyte ws komma ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs mporei na staqei me th deoysa sobarothta, na prosdoka na ginei, malista, sygkybernhsh me to PA.SO.K; To PA.SO.K. exei th laikh entolh na bgalei th xwra apo thn krish kai doyleyei ypo prwtognwres synqhkes. O k. Samaras anti na asxoleitai kai na apergazetai tetoioy eidoys senaria, kalo qa htan na asxolhqei me th stoixeiwdh doyleia poy exei na kanei, na deijei to komma toy kapoia sobarothta wste kai h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh na symbalei sthn ejodo apo thn krish poy en pollois dhmioyrghse h idia h kybernhsh ths N.D. Qa htan poly pio wfelimo na prattei kat` ayton ton tropo. Profanws, einai eysebeis poqoi toy k. Samara. Den tiqetai tetoio zhthma. Den exoyme anagkh apo sygkybernhseis. Fysika, apo th stigmh poy den tiqetai tetoio zhthma, oxi aplws einai ek toy perissoy, alla nomizw oti prokalei kai gelwta, to na arneitai malista o k. Samaras na symmetexei se mia tetoia sygkybernhsh. KOYTRAS: Exete na mas peite kati neotero gia thn anaqewrhsh toy elleimmatos pros ta panw, opws kykloforei shmera se arketes efhmerides; Kai na sas epishmanw oti o k. Papadopoylos, milwntas sto SKAI xqes to brady, ektimhse oti to pragmatiko elleimma, an prosqesoyme kai ta xreh toy kratoys pros toys idiwtes einai sto 13%. PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, na pw oti yparxei pleon h Ellhnikh Statistikh Yphresia. Einai mia anejarthth armodia Arxh, poy diatypwnei kaqe fora to elleimma. Anaferetai sth Eurostat kai fysika, epeidh den yparxei akomh ekqesh ths Ellhnikhs Statistikhs Yphresias, den mporoyme na kanoyme kanena sxolio. Ekeino to opoio exw na pw, einai oti oi opoies parekkliseis se oikonomika megeqh - parolo poy dhmioyrgeitai pleon, opws anefera, ena poly qetiko klima - yparxoyn tropoi na antimetwpizontai kai ayto kanei h kybernhsh. Den qa sxoliasw fysika ti eipe o k. Papadopoylos se mia ekpomph. Exei sebastes apoceis, edw omws, exoyme na kanoyme me mia statistikh yphresia, me mia statistikh anejarthth Arxh, h opoia synypologizei ola osa prepei na synypologistoyn. Sxoliazw, mono panw se epishma keimena kai se epishmes diapistwseis. KOYTRAS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw ean h Keratea exei khryxqei anejarthto kratidio. Dioti ayta poy parakoloyqoyme tis teleytaies hmeres, mallon den timoyn kanenan. PETALWTHS: Ennoeite oti ola ayta ta epeisodia poy ginontai kai ta opoia blepoyme. Ayto poy exw na pw, einai oti yparxei syntetagmenh Politeia poy diasfalizei me oloys toys tropoys thn anempodisth kykloforia twn politwn ths mesa s` ayth. KOYTRAS: Sygnwmh, alla oyte xqes, oyte shmera den diasfalisthke h anempodisth kykloforia twn politwn. PETALWTHS: Qa moy epitrecete na parameinw ekei. Sas eyxaristw. Kalo apogeyma. --1427249692-752562010-1301428116=:30109-- Greek Government Press Briefings in ASCII Greek Directory - Previous Article - Next Article |