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Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

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Trith, 22 Martioy 2011

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 22 Martioy 2011

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

Enocei ths Synodoy Koryfhs stis Bryjelles, qa hqela na qymisw se oloys mas poy briskomaste, ti kataferame kai giati maxomaste.

Entima kai ypeyqyna me kyrio oplo thn ajiopistia kai ta pepragmena mas poy apodeiknyoyn th boylhsh mas na jeperasoyme ta problhmata mas, diekdikoyme kai petyxainoyme thn elafrynsh twn politwn apo toys arxikoys oroys ths daneiakhs symbashs me thn epimhkynsh ths apoplhrwmhs toy daneioy twn 110 dis eyrw kai th meiwsh toy epitokioy.

Kataferame, epishs, na apotypwqei stis apofaseis, na ginei, dhladh, meros ths eyrwpaikhs atzentas gia prwth fora h epibolh foroy epi twn xrhmatopistwtikwn synallagwn kai h dynatothta epanagoras omologwn me xrhmata toy monimoy mhxanismoy sthrijhs.

Aytes oi stoxeymenes kai synepeis kateyqynseis einai kai eparkeis kai efiktes kai plhreis. Den einai h lysh, alla to qemelio ths lyshs twn problhmatwn mas. Dhmioyrgoyn ena realistiko plano ejodoy apo ta idiaitera problhmata mas.

Moxqoyme na tis ylopoihsoyme, para th stash meridas paragontwn toy dhmosioy bioy, oi opoioi fainetai san na epixairoyn, oyte kan na problhmatizontai sthn emfanish kai mono enos yfaloy poy synanta h xwra, apajiwnontas etsi oxi thn kybernhsh, alla th megalh eqnikh prospaqeia poy ginetai kai poy kataballoyn oi idioi oi polites, prwta ap` ola.

Synepeia ergwn kai logwn, proshlwsh sto sxedio kai stoys eqnikoys mas stoxoys, se mia koinwnia qemeliwmenh se pio ygieis baseis, einai to diko mas protagma, gia na petyxoyme ta prwtogenh pleonasmata poy qa meiwsoyn ap` eyqeias to dhmosio xreos, gia na epitaxynoyme thn anamenomenh anaptyjiakh dynamikh poy einai sigoyro oti qa emfanistei, alla mono an eimaste peistikoi stis allages poy apaitoyn oi kairoi.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PITTARAS: Oyte gia anadiarqrwsh yparxoyn tipote sxediasmoi; Den exei allajei kati; Epeidh maqainoyme oti sthn Eyrwph xqes, toylaxiston ayto einai to shma poy exoyn dwsei, fainetai pws oyte ayth th fora qa exoyme telikh apofash stis Bryjelles 24-25 Martioy, dioti ayta fainetai oti parapempontai gia ton Ioynio. Allazei kati sto sxediasmo sas; Sas fobizei ayth h ejelijh;

PETALWTHS: Bebaiws, oxi. H anadiarqrwsh einai kati poy den einai stoys sxediasmoys mas kai ennoeitai oti den yparxei periptwsh na ginei. Ayto poy qeloyme na petyxoyme apo th Synodo Koryfhs stis 25 Martioy, einai h typikh epikyrwsh ths apofashs toy atypoy Symboylioy Koryfhs poy egine stis 11 Martioy. Ayth einai h apofash poy perimenoyme kai poy qa epidiwjoyme na yparxei. Giati mexri na yparjei apotypwmenh apofash, perimenoyme. Oi typikes diadikasies me tis epi meroys xwres einai ena allo zhthma. Alla, fysika, h oristikh apofash qa einai stis 25 Martioy. Ayto epidiwkoyme na einai kai ayto qa einai. Den exei allajei tipote apo ton arxiko mas sxediasmo.

MOSXOBAS: Dieykrinistiko erwthma kat` arxhn. An yparxei piqanothta, an exete tetoia mhnymata oti mporei na anablhqei h telikh apofash gia ton Ioynio, logw ejelijewn sth Libyh.

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei tetoia periptwsh. Ayto poy syzhteitai, poy omws, den einai qema syzhthshs twn etairwn, oyte diko mas fysika, einai h epikyrwsh, isws, apo ta eqnika koinoboylia. Ayto einai ena allo zhthma. Emeis ayto poy qeloyme na yparxei apotypwmeno, einai h typikh epikyrwsh ths prohgoymenhs apofashs ws apofash ths Synodoy Koryfhs stis 25 Martioy.

MOSXOBAS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, epeidh xqes perasate apo edw th ``grammh'' oti ``qa phgainoyme pantoy''. Ayto to eipate prin ginoyn eyrytera gnwsta ta epeisodia poy eginan enantion toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Syro. Hqela na moy peite, an ontws exete plhrofories oti ayta prohlqan apo sygkekrimenoys politikoys xwroys, an qa kataggeilete kapoion politiko xwro kai ti protiqeste na kanete efejhs. Giati einai h deyterh ``epiqesh'' poy dexetai o Prwqypoyrgos apo merida anqrwpwn poy antidroyn me thn politikh ayth. Qymizw oti h mia htan sto Parisi, nomizw, kai h allh edw.

PETALWTHS: To na mpoyme se onomatologia den mas afora.

MOSXOBAS: Politikoys xwroys, eipa, oxi onomata kai dieyqynseis.

PETALWTHS: Den mas endiaferei na entopisoyme politikoys xwroys. Mas enoxlei h fasizoysa nootropia kapoiwn, na prospaqoyn na apagoreysoyn ston Prwqypoyrgo, se ypoyrgoys ths kybernhshs h se opoiadhpote politika stelexh, na episkefqoyn kapoioys xwroys. Aytes oi energeies dystyxws, den exoyn oyte nohma, oyte ideologia. Ena einai to xrwma toys: Mayro.

Aytes einai fasistikes nootropies, poy tis exoyme zhsei kai sthn Eyrwph sta panepisthmia, prin apo dekaeties, me tis sygkentrwseis dhqen aganaktismenwn politwn kai sth xwra mas, akribws to idio ekanan. Einai dikaiwma toy kaqenos kai ofeiloyme oloi mas na exoyme apoch ws polites, na diamartyromaste, na leme tis apoceis mas. Alla, to na prospaqoyme na fimwsoyme ton opoiondhpote kai otan malista prokeitai gia to proswpo toy Prwqypoyrgoy h na mhn mporei na kykloforhsei sth xwra mas, tote safws milame gia fasizoysa nootropia. Ayto poy anefera xqes einai oti den yparxei periptwsh na dexqoyme kati tetoio. Prokeitai gia mia poly mikrh merida anqrwpwn h opoia den ypologizei to ti ginetai shmera sthn ellhnikh koinwnia.

Qa hqela na kanw mia anafora se o,ti afora thn perifereia mas kai na pw oti paremene epi xronia jexasmenh kai ayto to problhma to ``ebgaze'' pros ta ejw, oxi mono ws kahmo, alla kai oti htan jexasmenh apo thn kentrikh dioikhsh. Oti den thn episkeptontan oi ekastote Prwqypoyrgoi kai ypoyrgoi.

Exoyme mia kybernhsh h opoia exei enan kinhtikotato Prwqypoyrgo, o opoios brisketai synexeia sthn perifereia, toses fores oses alloi Prwqypoyrgoi den eixan breqei se oloklhres dekaeties. Oi ypoyrgoi synodeyoyn ton Prwqypoyrgo kai briskontai kai aytoi sthn perifereia, dipla ston Ellhna polith. Loipon, an kapoioi prospaqoyn na to mataiwsoyn ayto, briskontai alloy. Egw, akribws ayto anefera kai to epanalambanw kai twra: To stoixeiwdes dikaiwma kai h stoixeiwdhs ypoxrewsh mas einai na briskomaste dipla ston Ellhna polith kai ayto den prokeitai na mataiwqei apo kamia fasizoysas nootropias symperifora. Epanalambanw, to na diamartyrontai oi polites, einai qemito, logiko kai epibeblhmeno. Emeis eimaste me toys polites poy anhsyxoyn kai ekfrazoyn thn anhsyxia toys. Emeis, safws, kai logw ths ideologias mas alla kai mesa apo tis prajeis mas, qeloyme polites problhmatismenoys, polites energoys, kai ypo ayth thn ennoia, kala kanoyn kai diamartyrontai, alla ayto einai teleiws diaforetiko apo ayto poy ginetai twra. Dhladh, kat` oysia na exoyme prospaqeia apagoreyshs kykloforias twn politikwn mas. Ayto den to dexomaste kai ayto einai jekaqaro.

MOSXOBAS: Xqes, afhsate kapoies safeis apostaseis, kata thn tapeinh moy gnwmh, apo ta osa isxyristhke, opws eipate, kai den nomizw oti htan tyxaia h lejh ayth, o k. Pagkalos. Mhpws allaje kati shmera; Xqes, o k. Tsipras esteile anoixth epistolh ston Prwqypoyrgo zhtwntas toy na apodokimasei. Apodokimazei h kybernhsh ton isxyrismo opws eseis eipate toy k. Pagkaloy, oti hqikos aytoyrgos ths piqanhs epiqeshs enantion ths zwhs toy qa einai o k. Tsipras;

PETALWTHS: Eseis lete oti krathsa apostaseis. Kapoy alloy diabasa oti taytisthka me ton k. Pagkalo. Egw ejefrasa thn apoch ths kybernhshs.

MOSXOBAS: To rhma ``isxyrizomai'' den einai kai to pio... Emena toylaxiston den qa me ikanopoioyse, an hmoyn sth qesh toy k. Pagkaloy. Alla einai tapeinh proswpikh apoch.

PETALWTHS: Nai. Sas lew oti yparxoyn kai alles apoceis. Egw anefera thn apoch ths kybernhshs. Ekeino, omws, poy exw na pw gia thn epistolh toy k. Tsipra, o opoios malista katalogizei eyqynes kai qewrei ypeyqyno kai ton Prwqypoyrgo, einai oti prin steilei tetoies epistoles, as mas pei rhta kai kathgorhmatika ti akribws kanei gia na katadikasei tetoies symperifores, oxi mono pros ton k. Pagkalo, alla kai pros ton Prwqypoyrgo ths xwras, alla kai pros toys ypoyrgoys. Symperifores oi opoies, kaqe allo, para dhmokratikes einai.

Thn eyaisqhsia toy o k. Tsipras, as thn deijei, prwta ap` ola, sta melh toy kommatos toy, as th deijei prwta ap` ola, s` aytoys poy organwnoyn -kai polloi ap` aytoys einai melh toy SYRIZA- tetoioy eidoys prospaqeies poy amayrwnoyn h prospaqoyn na amayrwsoyn kai na apagoreysoyn episkeceis. Eimaste gnwstes ths pragmatikothtas, gnwrizomaste oloi sth mikrh Ellada mas, as dei kalytera ta pragmata kai meta, as apeyqynei kai opoiadhpote epistolh dikaiologhmena h adikaiologhta ston Prwqypoyrgo. Alla, na kaqista ypeyqyno ton Prwqypoyrgo ths xwras, otan o k. Tsipras exei deijei, ta teleytaia xronia, oti brisketai poly makria apo ayto poy onomazoyme dhmokratikh aristera, oxi ws komma, alla ws kinhma kai ws aristerh ideologia, tote nomizw oti parablepei ena poly megalo meros kai ths ellhnikhs pragmatikothtas kai ths istorias ths Aristeras thn opoia epikaleitai kai ths dhmokratikhs nomimothtas thn opoia exoyme oloi mas ypoxrewsh na perifroyroyme.

KEXAGIA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, shmera gia prwth fora, ap' oso sas parakoloyqw, eipate oti yparxoyn kai stelexh toy SYRIZA poy organwnoyn tetoioy eidoys sygkentrwseis. Epomenws, aspazeste thn apoch toy k. Pagkaloy.

PETALWTHS: To qema den einai na mpoyme sthn oysia ti aspazomaste h na kanoyme astynomikh diereynhsh. To qema einai politiko. Einai kaqara baqia politiko. Den exei sxesh aplws me dyo-treis episkeceis toy Prwqypoyrgoy h twn ypoyrgwn, exei sxesh me to ti diamorfwnoyme ws klima, ws apoch kai ws ideologia sthn ellhnikh koinwnia. H nootropia, epanalambanw, toy na prospaqoyme na apotrecoyme politikoys na milhsoyn stoys Ellhnes polites kai na breqoyn dipla toys kai malista sthn perifereia, einai pragmatika fasizoysa, an oxi fasistikh. Apo ekei kai pera, opoios xrhsimopoiei tetoies meqodeyseis h opoios den katadikazei jekaqara tetoioy eidoys meqodeyseis, tote exei kai tis eyqynes toy. Ayto einai jekaqaro. Gi' ayto emeis exoyme kalesei polles fores kai ton SYRIZA kai th N.D., omws, na kataggeilei alloy eidoys paromoia peristatika, ta opoia pragmatika plhgwnoyn oxi mono thn politikh zwh ths xwras, alla kai thn koinwnikh zwh. Kai peistikes apanthseis, mexri twra, etsi wste na antilhfqoyme oloi mas oti ta kommata, toylaxiston ta koinoboyleytika, pairnoyn jekaqara apostaseis apo tetoioy eidoys praktikes kai energeies, akomh den tis exoyme parei.

KEXAGIA: Symplhrwmatika, parakalw. Na qesw alliws thn erwthsh: Yparxoyn kai stelexh toy SYRIZA poy briskontai pisw apo kapoies...

PETALWTHS: Eseis qelete na anaferqw ston SYRIZA.

KEXAGIA: Egw sas kanw mia sygkekrimenh erwthsh. Den mporw na ekmaieysw tipota apo esas, ean eseis den to presbeyete kai den qelete na to peite. Pisteyete oti yparxoyn kai stelexh toy SYRIZA, se orismenes periptwseis, pisw apo kapoies epiqeseis h epeisodia;

PETALWTHS: Qa epanelqw s' ayto poy eipa, oti h Ellada mas einai mikrh. Oi topikes koinwnies, eidika otan prokeitai gia thn perifereia einai mikres kai gnwrizoyme oloi poly kala poios kineitai kai pws kineitai. Einai eyqynh olwn mas, olwn twn politikwn dynamewn na jekaqarisoyn oti pairnoyn apostaseis apo tetoioy eidoys energeies, oi opoies, epanalambanw, plhgwnoyn baqia oxi thn politikh zwh mono, alla kai thn koinwnikh zwh.

BITALHS: Qelw mia dieykrinish anaforika me thn apanthsh poy dwsate ston k. Mosxoba, poy sas rwthse gia ta gegonota sth Syro kai milhsate gia ``fasizoysa nootropia''. Qelw na jerw ean ayta poy eginan xqes sth Syro einai fasizoysa nootropia kai oi anqrwpoi poy symmeteixan s' ayta ta pragmata, poy lene oti einai polites aytoy toy nhsioy, einai fasistes.

PETALWTHS: Ean to genikeysoyme qa ftasoyme alloy.

BITALHS: Den to genikeyw, to ejeidikeyw.

PETALWTHS: Me yperaploysteyseis den mporoyme oyte na proseggisoyme toso sobara zhthmata, oyte fysika mporoyme eykola na xarakthrizoyme kapoion fasista h mh fasista. Epanelaba kai einai basikh parametros ths apochs moy kai ths qeshs mas thn opoia ejefrasa, oti einai dikaiwma - kai ypoxrewsh prosqetw egw - twn Ellhnwn politwn, na symmetexoyn me oloys toys tropoys kai me ton pio energo tropo symmetoxhs kai diamartyromenoi kai qetika kai arnhtika, sto politiko gignesqai ths xwras. Ayto emeis to epizhtame. Eidika, o idios o Prwqypoyrgos exei kalesei polles fores - akomh kai apo to bhma ths Boylhs, alla kai apo tis sygkentrwseis stis opoies paristatai - toys polites na einai energoi, na ekfrazoyn thn opoia apoch toys. Ayto einai jekaqaro. Eimaste mia kybernhsh kai exoyme enan Prwqypoyrgo o opoios einai akrws dhmokratikos. Exei apodeijei se olh thn politikh toy stadiodromia kai twra ws Prwqypoyrgos, pws ennoei th symmetoxh twn politwn sthn politikh. Ayto einai ena allo zhthma.

Oi polites mporoyn kai prepei na ekfrazontai kai ayto bohqa kai thn kybernhsh kai tis politikes dynameis. Ola ta ypoloipa omws, oi biaiopragies h h prospaqeia, h organwmenh polles fores, poy ginetai gia na prospaqhsoyn kapoioi na dyskolecoyn to ergo ths epafhs twn politikwn me toys polites, ekei tote pleon milame gia mia fasizoysa nootropia. Epanalambanw, gia mia meqodeysh thn opoia kai h Eyrwph, sta eyrwpaika panepisthmia, alla kai h Ellada, sthn epoxh twn ``aganaktismenwn politwn'' thn exei biwsei kai thn exoyme plhrwsei oloi mas kai idiaitera h Aristera h opoia qa eprepe na einai kai pio eyaisqhtopoihmenh.

KOYKLOYMPERHS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw ean yioqetei h kybernhsh toys isxyrismoys toy k. Pagkaloy sth xqesinh deyterh epistolh toy oti oi emprhstes toy ktirioy ths MARFIN proerxontai apo to mplok toy SYRIZA.

PETALWTHS: Ayto poy exw na sas pw einai oti gia th dolofonia twn triwn sympolitwn mas sth MARFIN yparxoyn se ejelijh dyo eisaggelikes ereynes. Aytes oi ereynes qa apodwsoyn, qa eydokimhsoyn. Elpizoyme na anadeixqoyn kai na ypodeixqoyn kai na timwrhqoyn oi enoxoi. Kai ef' oson yparxei h dikastikh diereynhsh, egw den mporw na milhsw. Alla nomizw oti o k. Pagkalos, gia na to jekaqarisoyme kiolas, eipe gia to ti egrafe o Typos. Apo ekei kai pera, h epishmh kybernhtikh qesh, einai oti yparxei en ejelijei eisaggelikh ereyna, h opoia einai kai h monh armodia gia na deijei kai na katadeijei poioi einai oi enoxoi aytoy toy frixtoy egklhmatos poy egine eis baros triwn sympolitwn mas.

MOYRELATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate nwritera oti den exete labei peistikes apanthseis apo ta koinoboyleytika kommata se o,ti afora th rhth kai kathgorhmatikh katadikh tetoiwn fainomenwn. Malista, emplejate kai th N.D. Egw qelw na rwthsw ean qewreite oti h N.D. siwphra synainei se tetoia fainomena h ektimate sto Megaro Majimoy oti apokomizei politika ofelh ap' aytes tis praktikes.

PETALWTHS: Kanenas den apokomizei politika ofelh. Ayto einai dedomeno. O ellhnikos laos exei apodeijei kai to apodeiknyei gia allh mia fora oti einai wrimotatos, oti diepetai apo akra sobarothta kai malista otan brisketai se mia tetoia periodo ektaktwn synqhkwn, poy polles fores yfistatai apofaseis oi opoies toy dyskoleyoyn para poly th zwh kai to gnwrizoyme para poly kala ayto. Alla h sobarothta kai h politikh orqothta, safws kai ektimatai. Ara, opoios nomizei oti exei proskaira politika ofelh, pragmatika brisketai ston kosmo twn ceydaisqhsewn. Alla kai apo th N.D. - kai den milw gia ayta ta sygkekrimena epeisodia, alla genikotera - gia tis ypotiqemenes ``episkeceis'' se spitia politikwn oi opoies einai dhqen ``ayqormhtes'' kai einai dhqen ``aganaktismenwn politwn'', den exoyme parei mexri twra peistikes apanthseis. Ayto einai jekaqaro. Kai gi' ayto exw pei polles fores oti einai zhthma olwn twn politikwn dynamewn, oxi na prostateysoyn thn kybernhsh sto na kineitai, alla einai zhthma twn politikwn dynamewn na prostateysoyn mia ypoqesh poy kaqe allo para symballei sthn koinwnikh synoxh kai sth dhmokratikh politikh leitoyrgia twn politwn mas. Apo ekei kai pera, krinomaste oloi kai oloi fysika exoyme kai tis synepeies kai ta ofelh h tis zhmies apo ayth thn ypoqesh.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Hqela na sas rwthsw, me ola ayta poy lete, h ektimhsh poy yparxei sthn kybernhsh, gia oles aytes tis syntonismenes apodokimasies, einai oti yparxei organwmeno sxedio to opoio brisketai se ejelijh kai perimenete mia klimakwsh toy;

PETALWTHS: Oxi. Prwta ap' ola, to oti ginetai poly syzhthsh edw, sthn enhmerwsh twn politikwn syntaktwn, den shmainei oti einai kai apo ta koryfaia qemata ths kybernhshs. H kybernhsh asxoleitai me sobara zhthmata. Exoyme mprosta mas th Synodo Koryfhs, exoyme na asxolhqoyme me thn poiothta zwhs twn Ellhnwn politwn mesa apo thn kaqhmerinh maxh poy dinoyme. Edw ginetai mia dhmosiografikh h kai politikh syzhthsh, poy kalo einai fysika na ginetai. Safws kai den yparxei tetoia ektimhsh gia organwmeno sxedio. Alla ayth h nootropia h opoia kalliergeitai, einai pragmatika blaberh kai gia th xwra, alla kai gia thn idia thn koinwnia.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Epeidh eipate oti to zhthma einai kaqara politiko, dhladh den problhmatizei thn kybernhsh to gegonos oti o antiproedros mias xwras, mias kybernhshs, enos kybernhtikoy sxhmatos, kataggellei ena allo komma, koinoboyleytiko komma, oti qa einai ypeyqyno gia th dolofonia toy; Dhladh, se poio kratos qa ginotan ayto to pragma kai den qa yphrxe salos; Den sas problhmatizei gia thn entash ayths ths sygkroyshs;

PETALWTHS: Emas mas problhmatizoyn ta megala problhmata poy pernaei o topos. Se sxesh me ayto to qema, mas problhmatizei to oti oi politikes dynameis den pairnoyn thn jekaqarh qesh poy prepei na exoyn. Oxi oles fysika. Alla, opoies politikes dynameis pairnoyn apostaseis, san na mh symbainei tipote, se tetoioy eidoys fainomena, pragmatika qa prepei na analaboyn to meros ths eyqynhs poy toys analogei, etsi wste na mhn exoyme tetoioy eidoys katastaseis poy den timoyn kanenan.

LIANG (XINHUA-Kineziko Praktoreio Eidhsewn): Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na paw sta ths Libyhs: Exete katasthsei safes oti h Ellada den qa labei energo meros stis stratiwtikes epixeirhseis sth Libyh. Qa hqela na rwthsw, an yparxei kapoio plano gia symmetoxh ths Elladas sto skelos ths anqrwpistikhs krishs, sthn antimetwpish ths, me dedomeno malista oti yphrxe prwtagwnistikos rolos ths Elladas sthn epixeirhsh ekkenwshs xiliadwn jenwn yphkown apo th Libyh, prin apo to jespasma twn epixeirhsewn.

PETALWTHS: H Ellada, apo thn prwth stigmh, katesthse safes, sth Synodo poy egine sto Parisi to prohgoymeno Sabbato, oti h symmetoxh ths den qa exei sxesh me polemikes epixeirhseis. Qa yparxoyn dieykolynseis yposthriktikoy xarakthra, opws exei ypoxrewsh apo tis dieqneis symbaseis kai th qesh ths se Dieqneis Organismoys, opws einai to NATO kai h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Kai ayto poy prwtistws eqese h xwra mas, einai oti qa symmetexei sthn ejyphrethsh twn anqrwpistikwn ptyxwn ths olhs ayths ypoqeshs. Giati einai katanohto kai antilhpto oti qa yparxoyn zhthmata anqrwpistikoy xarakthra.

Gnwrizoyme, hdh, para poly kala oti olh ayth h yparxoysa ekryqmh katastash exei dhmioyrghsei taseis metanasteyshs politwn ths Boreioy Afrikhs kai twn xwrwn opoy symbainoyn ola ayta ta tragika gegonota. Apo ekei kai pera, h Ellada exei apodeijei kai me thn anqrwpistikh parembash ths - ws kineziko praktoreio eidhsewn to gnwrizete kalytera apo emas - oti pragmatika, opoy xreiazetai, diadramatizei prwtagwnistiko rolo, prospaqwntas kai telika epitygxanontas ton teliko stoxo, se epixeirhseis apemplokhs kai apegklwbismoy jenwn yphkown apo xwres opoy yparxoyn polemikes sygkroyseis.

Ennoeitai oti h xwra mas qa diadramatisei ton idio rolo sthn paroysa krish. Akribws ayto eqese kai o Prwqypoyrgos sth Synodo twn Parisiwn. Ayto einai to prwto. Kai to deytero, poy eqese h Ellada apo thn prwth stigmh, einai, prin tis polemikes epixeirhseis, na yparjei mia diplwmatikh lysh. Dhladh, na akoloyqhqei h diplwmatikh odos epilyshs toy megaloy problhmatos sth Libyh. Kati to opoio kriqhke oti antikeimenika den htan efikto, den htan dynato, afhnontas omws na yparxei ayth h protash, akomh kai meta tis polemikes epixeirhseis.

H Ellada pantote, paradosiaka, alla kai sto prosfato parelqon, exei apodeijei oti exei sygkekrimenh antilhch gia tis polemikes sygkroyseis, poy qa prepei na apofeygontai pash qysia, oti qa prepei na akoloyqeitai h diplwmatikh odos. Kai fysika se ola ta metwpa - opoy yparxoyn anoikta metwpa se dieqnes epipedo kai symmetexoyn dieqneis dynameis - kai ws ek toytoy, ek ths qesews ths, ek twn symbatikwn ths ypoxrewsewn ypoxreoytai na symmetexei, opws einai sto Afganistan h alloy, o xarakthras ths symmetoxhs ths einai kaqara anqrwpistikos kai synistatai sthn paroxh iatrikwn kai allwn yphresiwn. To idio qa prajei h xwra mas, ef' oson kai otan xreiastei kai sthn periptwsh ths Libyhs.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw na epistrecw ligo sto prohgoymeno qema kai na sas rwthsw ean ston apohxo olwn aytwn twn apodokimasiwn kybernhtikwn stelexwn exete antidraseis apo kybernhtika stelexh, ws pros thn paroysia toys stis parelaseis ths 25hs Martioy kai an oxi, poioi qa ekproswphsoyn thn kybernhsh ekei;

PETALWTHS: Epanalambanw oti dhmioyrgoyme ena qema poy se poly megalh bash den yparxei. Mporei na to syzhtame h epeidh einai kai poly eyxaristo, polles fores, na exoyme tetoioy eidoys analyseis epi analysewn, plhn omws to qema ayto den einai kyriarxo sthn kybernhsh. H kybernhsh, aplws, dinei to stigma toy pws blepei tetoioy eidoys symperifores. Stigma to opoio einai baqia politiko. Qa epanalabw gia pollosth fora oti oles oi politikes dynameis qa prepei na to dwsoyn kai oi idies kai oxi na nomizoyn oti den tis afora. Kai ayto einai para poly basiko gia oloys mas. Kai qa moy epitrecete, gia mian akomh fora, na tonisw kai na ypogrammisw ayto poy sas eipa kai xqes: Oti emeis qa eimaste pantoy. Eimaste oxi aplws h eklegmenh kybernhsh ths xwras - poy den qa prepei na to jexna kaneis ayto - alla eimaste kai ayth h kybernhsh poy kanei ta panta gia na bgalei th xwra apo thn krish. Ean kapoioi nomizoyn oti mporoyn na loidoroyn mia tetoia kybernhsh, einai ajioi kai ths symperiforas toys. Kai stamatw edw. Peraiterw anhsyxia safws kai den yparxei. To stigma mas, omws, einai ayto.

KOYTRAS: Yparxoyn kokkines grammes sthn kybernhsh, anaforika me thn ajiopoihsh ths dhmosias perioysias; Sas erwtw me aformh thn topoqethsh ths kas Katselh, xqes, poy eipe oti qa prepei na yparxoyn kokkines grammes se o,ti afora th DEH, ton OTE kai thn EYDAP.

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap' ola, gia prwth fora ginetai mia toso systhmatikh katagrafh ths dhmosias perioysias, etsi wste na ajiopoihqei. Gia prwth fora, qa yparxei ena sygkentrwtiko plano kai sxedio me sygkekrimena krithria gia ektetamenes apokratikopoihseis, opoy xreiazetai, etsi wste na yparxoyn esoda kai na meiwqei apeyqeias to dhmosio xreos, kati poy exei amesh sxesh kai sthn antanaklash ths poiothtas zwhs toy Ellhna polith. Ta krithria ayta qa einai sygkekrimena, qa einai anaptyjiaka, qa einai koinwnikoy xarakthra. Qa yparxei sxediasmos. Kai aytos o sxediasmos einai hdh se ejelijh. Einai sxediasmos ths kybernhshs kai se syntomo xroniko diasthma qa paroysiastei to eqniko sxedio gia thn ajiopoihsh ths dhmosias perioysias kai tis apokratikopoihseis poy qa ginoyn.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Oi plhrofories elegan, toylaxiston to Sabbatokyriako, oti ayrio qa ginei Diypoyrgikh Epitroph, opoy ayto to sxedio qa paroysiastei. Kapoioi lene oti h kybernhsh qa to paroysiasei prin apo tis 25 Martioy. Ti ap' ola ayta eystaqei; Pote qa paroysiastei, giati lete eseis se kapoies meres.

PETALWTHS: Kat' arxas einai ena sxedio poy xreiazetai para poly doyleia kai ayto einai jekaqaro. Ena sxedio poy qa einai akrws melethmeno kai oso to dynaton orismeno, estw kat' arxhn. Ayto to sxedio qa paroysiastei aytes tis meres. Ayrio qa ginei Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai qa yparjei diadikasia, oxi sthn ayrianh synedriash toy, alla argotera, gia to sxedio twn apokratikopoihsewn.

XASAPOPOYLOS: To opoio qa paroysiastei kai sth Synodo Koryfhs; Dhladh, prepei na to exei o Prwqypoyrgos sta xeria toy, fqanontas stis Bryjelles;

PETALWTHS: Emeis kanoyme th doyleia poy prepei na kanoyme kai otan to sxedio qa einai etoimo, qa anakoinwqei.

KOYTRAS: Yparxoyn diafwnies entos ths kybernhshs gia ton tropo ajiopoihshs ths dhmosias perioysias;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap' ola, den exei anadeixqei akomh o tropos ajiopoihshs. Eimaste sth fash ths katagrafhs kai sth synexeia qa yparjei ajiopoihsh. Epanalambanw oti h ajiopoihsh ths dhmosias perioysias, gia na apanthsw kai ston synadelfo sas ton k. Xasapopoylo, einai ena qema poy exei na kanei amesa me tis eqnikes mas anagkes. Einai ena qema to opoio qa eprepe na to eixame qesei edw kai polles dekaeties kai na mhn afhnoyme na xanetai, sthn kalyterh periptwsh na limnazei, h dhmosia perioysia. Alla kai oi apokratikopoihseis einai ena qema poy afora apokleistika emas. Einai qema diko mas to pws qa meiwsoyme to dhmosio xreos. Synepws qa yparjei sxedio orismeno kai otan sygkekrimenopoihqei, asfalws kai qa anakoinwqei.

XASAPOPOYLOS: To klima poy yparxei kai sas lew kai ston Typo, alla kai apo syzhthseis se kybernhtika stelexh, kaqws kai se boyleytes mesa sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada, einai oti ayth th fora den einai diateqeimenoi na dwsoyn, sto qema twn apokratikopoihsewn, leykh epitagh ston ypoyrgo Oikonomikwn.

PETALWTHS: H kybernhtikh politikh h opoia akoloyqeitai kai malista se toso shmantika zhthmata einai synolikh kai syllogikh. Leykh epitagh den exei zhthqei apo kanenan. Eidika gia toys boyleytes, exoyme pei polles fores oti h kybernhsh kai symmerizetai kai xreiazetai thn kritikh toys, tis apoceis toys, tis protaseis toys, th symbolh toys se kaqe epipedo eite qetika eite arnhtika. Kai ayto to exoyme apodeijei. Ennoeitai oti se tetoioy eidoys shmantika zhthmata den zhtoyntai leykes epitages. Einai qemata poy aptontai toy eqnikoy sxedioy ths anaptyjhs mas. Synepws, tetoio zhthma den tiqetai.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, den jerw ean eiste armodios na apanthsete s' ayto to erwthma. Wstoso, apo xqes yparxoyn dhmosieymata poy feroyn ton Grammatea toy kommatos sas ton k. Karximakh na pairnei mia qesh dhmosioy ws prwhn ypallhlos ths Olympiakhs, kati poy aperrice apo thn pleyra ths h ka Tzotzola, nomizw htan synadelfoi. Hqela na jerw an qa thn aporricei o k. Karximakhs.

PETALWTHS: O k. Karximakhs htan ypallhlos ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias. Opws oloi oi ypallhloi ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias metataxqhke se kapoio ypoyrgeio kai sygkekrimena sto ypoyrgeio Metaforwn. Ayth einai h doyleia toy. Opws gnwrizoyme, oi boyleytes erxontai kai parerxontai ws pros th boyleytikh toys idiothta. Fysika, kaneis den qa eixe thn apaithsh apo enan boyleyth na stamathsei na exei epaggelmatiko mellon, otan pacei na einai boyleyths. To ti ekane h kyria Tzotzola, den to gnwrizoyme kai oyte mas endiaferei. To na ginontai sygkriseis, den tima oyte thn kyria Tzotzola oyte opoion to diakinei ayto. Den anaferomai se sas, aplws gnwrizw, antilambanomai apo poy prokyptei ayto to zhthma. Profanws, h ka Tzotzola, gia na apopoieitai mia qesh poy eixe ws dikhgoros sthn Olympiakh Aeroporia, exei ejasfalismenoys alloys poroys zwhs. Se o,ti afora ton k. Karximakh, ayth htan h doyleia toy, htan ypallhlos ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias kai qa prepei me kapoion tropo, otan den qa exei th boyleytikh idiothta, na diasfalisei to oikogeneiako eisodhma toy. Osoi exoyn alloys poroys h oikogeneiaka eisodhmata apo alles phges, mporoyn na kanoyn eleyqera tis epiloges toys.

KEXAGIA: Hqela na rwthsw ean sth Synodo ths Pempths kai ths Paraskeyhs (24 kai 25/3) perimenoyme endexomenws kapoies diaforopoihseis h tropopoihseis se o,ti afora stis apofaseis poy aforoyn thn Ellada.

PETALWTHS: Einai safes oti prokeitai gia mia poly kaqoristikh kai shmantikh Synodo. An kai sthn prohgoymenh atyph Synodo, mia seira apo zhthmata, poy aforoysan profanws kai kyriws sthn Ellada, eixan mia qetikh ekbash, h typikh apofash anamenetai s' aythn thn taktikh Synodo. Kai mexri na yparjei apofash s' ayth thn taktikh Synodo toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, ta panta einai ypo airesh. Gnwrizoyme oti exoyme na kanoyme me dyskoles kai sklhres diapragmateyseis. Gnwrizoyme oti exoyme na kanoyme me polles diaforetikes qeseis kai diaforetika symferonta eyrwpaikwn xwrwn, polles ek twn opoiwn briskontai se krish. Synepws, h doyleia mas, o agwnas mas kai h agwnia mas, poy metafrazontai se sklhro kai epipono ergo, paramenoyn ews otoy oloklhrwqoyn kai epikyrwqoyn oi qetikes gia th xwra mas apofaseis apo ayth th Synodo Koryfhs.

Sas eyxaristw.

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