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Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 22 Dekembrioy 2010

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 22 Dekembrioy 2010

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

Afhnoyme pisw mas se liges hmeres to 2010, ena etos apo ta pio dyskola, an oxi to pio dyskolo metapoliteytika. Htan to etos opoy prwth kai ycisth proteraiothta ths kybernhshs htan - kai einai - h swthria ths xwras apo mia xreokopia kai o,ti ayth qa shmaine gia th syntriptikh pleiochfia twn Ellhnwn. Bebaia, h swthria ayth den erxetai oyte akopa, oyte xwris prospaqeia kai ayto einai kati poy anagnwrizetai, pleon, dieqnws. Kai exei hdh arxisei kai apodidei karpoys, mias kai epiteloys kamia apolytws qysia twn Ellhnwn politwn den paei xamenh.

To 2011 qa einai ejisoy mia krisimh xronia, me diaforetikes omws stoxeyseis, meqodoys kai prooptikes. Qa einai h xronia twn megalwn, oysiastikwn, diarqrwtikwn allagwn poy qa qemeliwsoyn to epiteliko kratos, to kratos dikaioy kai poy empedwnoyn mia nea nootropia kai sxesh amoibaias empistosynhs metajy politwn kai Politeias.

To 2011 prepei na apotelesei mia xronia oroshmo gia thn ejodo apo thn krish kai thn anaqermansh ths oikonomias me biwsimh anaptyjh. Oi baseis pleon tiqentai kai einai isxyres kai sterees.

Shmera, sth Boylh qa ginei h chfoforia gia thn egkrish toy Proypologismoy toy 2011. Einai enas proypologismos sto pneyma ths epoxhs poy dianyoyme. Shmantikos, istorikos poy shmatodotei kai thn ejodo apo thn krish. Exoyme pei polles fores oti h kaqe periodos, istorika kai h kaqe politikh stigmh epanakaqorizoyn synexws ti einai proodeytiko kai ti synthrhtiko se mia koinwnia kai synepws kai sthn askhsh politikhs. Ofeiloyme oloi mas - kai ayto kanoyme ws kybernhsh - na epanaprosdiorisoyme, na epanejetasoyme, an katastaseis poy dekaeties prin qewroysame proodeytikes, ejakoloyqoyn kai shmera na einai h an exoyn ginei baqia synthrhtikes -kai ekei einai h eyqynh twn kommatwn ths aristeras- kai apoteloyn troxopedh sthn anaptyjh, thn proodo kai tis pragmatikes anagkes twn politwn, ejyphretwntas telika mono merikoys bolemenoys. Krinomaste kai apodeiknyoyme kaqhmerina poso synaisqanomaste thn eyqynh mas kai to megalo kaqhkon, poy den einai tipote allo apo thn ejyphrethsh toy eqnikoy symferontos.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KOYTRAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, einai ajiopistos o Proypologismos toy 2011; Giati symfwna me kapoia stelexh sas, opws h k. Basw Papandreoy, o Proypologismos den einai ajiopistos kai den qa efarmostei, profanws.

PETALWTHS: Einai enas Proypologismos diaforetikos apo ton perysino. Einai enas Proypologismos anagkhs. Einai enas Proypologismos poy safws deixnei to ti egine mexri twra, giati pairnoyme san bash thn poly megalh doyleia poy egine mexri twra apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh. Kai fysika, einai enas Proypologismos o opoios shmatodotei kai thn anaptyjiakh parametro, thn opoia qetoyme sthn politikh mas. Einai safes oti me enan Proypologismo kai malista ypo tetoies synqhkes, den epilyontai ola ta zhthmata, oyte bgainoyme apo adiejoda h opws qelei kaneis mporei na to pei. To qema einai omws oti me ayton ton Proypologismo apokta h ellhnikh oikonomia ajiopistia. Einai enas Proypologismos toy opoioy ta stoixeia den mporei na amfisbhthqoyn giati einai ajiopista kai deixnei tis megales stoxeyseis mas, oi opoies oytws h allws metoysiwnontai kai se politikes kai malista me ryqmoys kai me almata poy pote den exoyn ginei apo kamia kybernhsh.

KOYTRAS: Qa efarmostei o Proypologismos h qa exoyme anaqewrhsh se dyo mhnes;

PETALWTHS: O Proypologismos qa efarmostei, aytos einai o stoxos mas kai einai sto plaisio ths stoxeyshs mas na bgoyme apo thn krish. Exoyme pei polles fores oti gia na bgoyme apo thn krish prepei aparegklita na throyme toys stoxoys mas.

XIDIROGLOY: Qa hqela na rwthsw, an yparxei ennomh tajh sthn Ellada. Kai an yparxei, giati den exoyn syllhfqei akomh oi drastes ths epiqeshs enantion toy boyleyth ths N.D. k. Kwsth Xatzhdakh;

PETALWTHS: Safws kai yparxei ennomh tajh,. Ontws, ayth h epaisxynth energeia enantion enos politikoy, poy mas aggizei oloys, polites kai politikoys, qa prepei na exei apotelesma, ws pros th diereynhsh twn enoxwn. Einai qema ths Astynomias, einai qema ths Dikaiosynhs. Ap` oso gnwrizoyme, ginetai mia swsth doyleia s` ayth thn kateyqynsh, menei omws na yparxei kai apotelesma.

MARAQIAS: H shmerinh chfoforia apotelei kai chfo empistosynhs pros thn kybernhsh; Pairnei kai tetoia xarakthristika;

PETALWTHS: H chfoforia gia ton Proypologismo einai h koryfaia, isws, prajh chfoforias se ena Koinoboylio, mias kai deixnei kai thn politikh stoxeysh ths kaqe kybernhshs. Synepws, einai ayjhmenoy shmantikoy baroys ayth h chfoforia. To qema bebaiws einai na ginetai swsth doyleia kai sthn katartish kai sthn thrhsh toy Proypologismoy. Emeis ayto poy mporoyme na leme kai na epairomaste, einai oti me poly realistiko tropo kai me tropo o opoios antanakla thn pragmatikothta, alla kyriws tis stoxeyseis mas, katartisame ayton ton Proypologismo kai fysika qa ton ylopoihsoyme kiolas.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ekproswpe, exoyme mia ejelijh gia thn opoia qelw na jerw poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs: To dieqnes praktoreio  Bloomberg mhnyei thn Eyrwpaikh Kentrikh Trapeza, giati den dinei stoixeia gia to pws h Ellada ekane ta swaps toy 2001 gia na entaxqei sto eyrw. Yparxei apanthsh apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh s` ayto kai pws thn ajiologei ayth thn kinhsh;

PETALWTHS: Einai kati poy den strefetai kata ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Emeis mphkame me megalh prospaqeia kai me poly kopiastikh doyleia sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Kai fysika ayto den dexomaste na to amfisbhtei kaneis. Twra, opoios exei alla stoixeia, mporei na ta ferei. Emas, ayto poy mas endiaferei, einai to shmera. Ayto poy mas endiaferei, einai na eimaste synepeis kai ws pros tis ypoxrewseis mas pros toys etairoys, alla kai synepeis ston poly ayjhmeno rolo poy exoyme- kai logw ayths ths katastashs- gia to mellon ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Enas rolos poy anagnwrizetai dieqnws, alla h dieqnhs ayth anagnwrish exei amesh sxesh kai me thn ellhnikh pragmatikothta.

GIANNISHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, blepoyme oti yparxei kai allh epistolh ennea proedrwn episthmonikwn forewn, sklhrh epistolh qa legame, gia thn arnhsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomikwn na synanthqei mazi toys enocei toy anoigmatos twn kleistwn epaggelmatwn. Einai stis proqeseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy h toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomikwn na synanthqei mazi toys;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, exoyme mia doyleia sthn kybernhsh h opoia einai katanemhmenh. O Prwqypoyrgos exei ayjhmena kaqhkonta, ayjhmeno rolo kai ayto einai aytonohto, o de ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn - eidika o sygkekrimenos ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn - doyleyei toso sklhra, poy kaneis den mporoyse na dianohqei mexri twra. Einai safes oti emeis zhtame thn apoch, tis protaseis, th diaboyleysh kyriws twn amesa emplekomenwn forewn twn epaggelmatikwn ekeinwn omadwn oi opoioi exoyn sxesh me ta kleista epaggelmata. Ayto, omws, den shmainei oti mono me th synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo h ton ypoyrgo Oikonomikwn, mporei na yparxei dialogos aytwn twn epaggelmatikwn omadwn. H Politeia, h kybernhsh ekproswpeitai pantote kai oso mporei se ychlo epipedo. Kai fysika, to me poion qa synanthqei mia epaggelmatikh omada den mporei na kaqorisei kai th stash ths apenanti se tetoioy eidoys zhthmata. Ean erxomaste kai leme oti ``qa prepei na synanthqoyme me ton Prwqypoyrgo giati alliws den syzhtame'' - den nomizw omws oti leei kati tetoio h epistolh- tote adikoyntai oi idies oi epaggelmatikes omades.

Emeis exoyme qesei se poly megalh proteraiothta th synennohsh, th diaboyleysh, thn poly megalh syzhthsh, akomh kai gia hssonos shmasias zhthmata. Poso mallon gia tetoia zhthmata ta opoia einai ap` ta zhthmata poy den exoyn aggixtei edw kai para polla xronia. Einai apo ta zhthmata poy apoteloyn meros twn paqogeneiwn, to na yparxoyn kleista epaggelmata sthn ellhnikh oikonomia, giati den mporoyme na mhn antilambanomaste shmera oti to anoigma twn kleistwn epaggelmatwn apotelei prajh koinwnikhs Dikaiosynhs, prosbashs perissoterwn sympolitwn mas se ayta ta epaggelmata kai fysika qerapeia kai ejyphrethsh toy dhmosioy symferontos, giati ekei stoxeyoyme: Sthn paroxh kalyterwn yphresiwn, sth megalyterh antagwnistikothta kai gi` ayto akribws den noeitai na yparxoyn kleista epaggelmata. Giati kleista epaggelmata yphrxan se olh thn Eyrwph, yphrxan periorismoi oi opoioi exoyn arqei. Kai na mhn jexname oti eimaste h teleytaia xwra ths Eyrwphs poy exei akomh aytoys toys periorismoys.

KOYTRAS: Kai giati exete kaqysterhsei toso poly na to anoijete; Kai lew oti exete kaqysterhsei, kyrie Ekproswpe, dioti apo to kalokairi, ana mhna, mas enhmerwnoyn oti sto telos toy mhna anoigoyn, sto telos toy mhna anoigoyn. Efqasan oi giortes, den anoijan. Paei ton Genarh. Pali se diaboyleysh, profanws nea kaqysterhsh.

PETALWTHS: Den gnwrizw poioi sas enhmerwnoyn, alla to na leme oti ayth h kybernhsh kaqysterei na anoijei ta kleista epaggelmata, poy kamia kybernhsh den eixe dianohqei na to kanei, nomizw oti mas adikei oloys. Eimaste h monh kybernhsh, poy lambanei tolmhres apofaseis kai den mas endiaferei to politiko kostos. Mas endiaferei to dhmosio symferon, mas endiaferei h prosbash se yphresies kai epaggelmata se kaqoliko epipedo. Fysika, den yparxei kamia kaqysterhsh. To plaisio exei hdh doqei meta apo th diaboyleysh me tis epaggelmatikes aytes omades se para poly syntomo xroniko diasthma qa yparxei kai ekeinh h nomoqetikh ryqmish me thn endedeigmenh morfh, etsi wste ayta ta epaggelmata na anoijoyn kai bebaiws den mporoyme na jexname oti aytes oi epaggelmatikes omades prepei na exoyn kai ena stadio metabatikothtas, giati exoyn ependysei s' ayta ta epaggelmata. Qa prepei na yparxei omalh metabash apo ta kleista pros ta anoikta epaggelmata. Den yparxei kamia kaqysterhsh. Yparxoyn endelexeis meletes. Yparxei mia poly isorrophmenh ryqmish apenanti s' ayta ta kleista epaggelmata, poy den qa einai pleon kleista. Alla oi ryqmiseis poy ginontai fernoyn kai poly megalh isorropia.

MOYRELATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pws ajiologei h kybernhsh kai to Megaro Majimoy tis xqesines topoqethseis orismenwn ek twn boyleytwn ths sympoliteyshs. Htan, an oxi aixmhres, toylaxiston, me poly megalh dosh kritikhs.

PETALWTHS: Exoyme pei polles fores oti emeis qewroyme ojygono th syzhthsh sto politiko gignesqai, sta politika pragmata. Poso mallon sthn koryfaia diadikasia ths egkrishs toy Proypologismoy, opoy antanaklatai kai perigrafetai h en genei politikh poy qa akoloyqhqei apo thn kybernhsh apo edw kai pera, alla oysiastika emperiexei kai enan apologismo gia to aperxomeno etos kai fysika oi protaseis kai oi apoceis twn boyleytwn oi opoioi nomoqetoyn -ki exoyn isxyrotath nomoqetikh bash- kai me thn paroysia toys kai me ton logo toys, lambanontai yp' ocin. Kai malista den qa prepei na jexname kai na apomonwnoyme tis poly dyskoles sygkyries poy briskomaste. Ypo thn ennoia ayth, oi syzhthseis kai oi topoqethseis ginontai swsta. H kybernhsh epidiwkei ton politiko logo twn boyleytwn, giati aytos o politikos logos exei kai barynoysa shmasia.

GIANNISHS: Apodexetai kai telesigrafa boyleytwn h kybernhsh, oti einai h teleytaia fora poy qa chfisei enas boyleyths ena sygkekrimeno nomoqethma;

PETALWTHS: Eidika ayth h kybernhsh proxwra se tetoies anatropes kai tetoies rhjeis, poy kaneis den exei dianohqei mexri shmera. Kai fysika den einai kybernhsh poy apodexetai telesigrafa. Alla h agwnia toy kaqe boyleyth ekfrazetai me diaforetiko tropo. Emeis den qewroyme oti yparxoyn telesigrafa.

MARAQIAS: Synepws, oi boyleytes mporoyn na miloyn kai na kanoyn kritikh, alla ofeiloyn na chfizoyn. Kai epanalambanw, einai chfos empistosynhs pros thn kybernhsh h shmerinh chfoforia;

PETALWTHS: O rolos twn boyleytwn einai para poly shmantikos. Einai syntagmatika katoxyrwmenos kai fysika exei poly barynoysa shmasia gia oloys mas.

MPOTWNHS: Epeidh eiste kai apo thn perifereia, polloi boyleytes synadelfoi sas apo to PASOK, eipan oti ayrio den qa mporoyn na koitajoyn toys polites sta matia, gyrizontas sta xwria toys, sthn perifereia toys. Kai eseis poy eiste apo thn perifereia, mporeite na toys koitazete meta apo ayth thn kybernhtikh politikh twn teleytaiwn mhnwn;

PETALWTHS: Twra qa ypeiselqei o ypokeimenikos paragontas. Egw mporw na koitazw sta matia toys sympolites moy sthn perifereia, giati mporw, isws gia prwth fora mesa se ayth thn poly dyskolh sygkyria gia oloys mas, na yposthrijw to ti ekane ayth h kybernhsh kai to ti qa kanei. To oti swzoyme th xwra ws kybernhsh, einai para poly shmantiko, oi polites to antilambanontai.

To oti erxomaste na qerapeysoyme paqogeneies pollwn dekaetiwn, oi polites to antilambanontai.

To oti apokaqistoyme mia dhmosia dioikhsh me antikeimenika krithria proslhchs, proagwghs kai patajh ths grafeiokratias, safws oi polites to antilambanontai.

Kai epeidh tyxainei na eimai apo perifereia, na sas enhmerwsw oti oso pio mikros einai o kyklos ston opoio politeyomaste, h perifereia mas, toso pio poly gnwrizoyn oi sympolites mas ti akribws kanei kaqenas sthn politikh toy drash kai to ti akribws kanei h kybernhsh gi' ayto ton topo. Oso afora stis agrotikes perifereies, einai h prwth fora poy exoyn enan ELGA o opoios den kanei roysfetologikes apozhmiwseis, o opoios kataballei egkyra kai egkaira tis opoies apozhmiwseis.

Na sas enhmerwsw oti shmera, se synedriash ths diarkoys epitrophs ypo ton k. Pagkalo, gia tis sygxwneyseis twn forewn toy dhmosioy kai sta agrotika zhthmata, o k. Skandalidhs exei kanei tetoies protaseis, opoy aytes oi dekades - ekatontades twn Organismwn, me ta dioikhtika symboylia, me toys terastioys misqoys kai me thn poly amfibolh apotelesmatikothta, sygxwneyontai me ena krithrio: thn yposthrijh toy Ellhna agroth.

Ola ayta einai draseis tis opoies mporoyme na anaferoyme stis perifereies mas, opws kai to pws swsame to programma ``bohqeia sto spiti'' kai ayto sthn perifereia einai akomh pio emfanes, otan h N.D. to eixe egkataleicei kai h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh eixe apofasisei oti den qa xrhmatodothqei. Emeis peisame thn E.E., ferame stoixeia oti ayto to programma sto opoio pisteyame kai pisteyoyme prepei na xrhmatodothqei. Malista, yparxei protash apo to ypoyrgeio Ergasias -xqes thn kateqese h k. Katselh sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio- na metejelixqei kai me mia allh morfh, etsi wste na apokthsei monimothta kai stis ypodomes. Gi` ayta kai polla-polla alla, pragmatika, yperhfaneyomaste stis perifereies mas.

MPOTWNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate ti katalabainei o kosmos. Ti den katalabainei kai antidra etsi;

PETALWTHS: Pws;

MPOTWNHS: Me ton tropo poy antidra.

PETALWTHS: Egw blepw mia koinwnia h opoia pragmatika perna mia poly dyskolh fash, mia dyskolia thn opoia anagnwrizoyme oloi. Alla to ``oloi ston dromo'' einai kati to opoio opoios to leei - eseis bebaia metaferete ayta poy lene kapoioi - einai yperaploysteytiko. Kai fysika, ean ta bazoyme me syntexnies, h ean ta bazoyme me paqogeneies poy exoyn ekqrecei oles oi kybernhseis poy perasan prin apo mas, tote kapoioi ontws qigontai kai qa diamartyrontai. Gnwrizoyme omws oti oi epoxes poy zoyme einai dyskoles. Kai par' ola ayta h koinwnia deixnei mia ejairetikh wrimothta.

PIKOYLAS: Sthn chfish toy polynomosxedioy den qesate qema kommatikhs peiqarxias. Twra qa qesete; Me dedomeno oti exete diagracei ton k. Papaxrhsto.

PETALWTHS: Den tiqetai tetoio zhthma. Exw dei kai pws ermhneyqhkan oi dhlwseis moy, otan eipa oti oi boyleytes exoyn syneidhsh. To epanalambanw omws oti exoyn syneidhsh kai poly megalh krish ws pros thn terastia eyqynh poy feroyn gia to mellon ths xwras.

KOYTRAS: Yparxei kapoia proetoimasia apo thn kybernhsh, fobos telos pantwn, gia thn epikeimenh nea ypobaqmish apo ton oiko Fitch;

PETALWTHS: Einai alhqeia oti ginontai syzhthseis. Einai alhqeia oti oi ajiologhseis twn oikwn aytwn paizoyn poly shmantiko rolo sta dieqnh oikonomika pragmata, alla emeis ws xwra exoyme anadeijei opws kai polles alles xwres kai dynameis, ton rolo twn oikwn ajiologhshs. Ekeino to opoio mporoyme na kanoyme emeis kai prepei na kanoyme, einai na throyme aparegklita toys stoxoys mas. Kai ayto to kanoyme. Kai apodeixqhke oti petyxainoyme, otan exoyme ayto ws stoxo.

KOYTRAS: Afoy ginetai ayto poy lete, kanete dhladh tis desmeyseis sas prajeis, giati oi agores den sas empisteyontai;

PETALWTHS: Ma, an den to antilambanomaste oloi, eimaste ektos agorwn, ayth th stigmh. Kai eimaste ektos agorwn, giati yphrxe mia dedomenh oikonomikh katastash, poy den mporoysame na daneistoyme. Brhkame, me poly megalo kopo, enan tropo. Emeis prwtoi proteiname na yparjei enas eyrwpaikos mhxanismos staqerothtas kai sthrijhs, o opoios monimopoieitai me mia epektash ths morfhs, thn opoia eixe ws pros thn Ellada. Kai fysika, stoxos mas einai akomh kai mesa sto 2011 na mporesoyme na bgoyme stis agores. Alla gia na mporesoyme na bgoyme stis agores, einai aparaithth proypoqesh na mporesoyme na staqeropoihsoyme thn oikonomia mas, na dwsoyme ola ekeina ta deigmata ta opoia eggywntai oti h Ellada einai mia xwra h opoia exei mellon oikonomika. Ayta ta deigmata arxizoyme kai ta dinoyme kaqe mera.

KOYTRAS: Sygnwmh, kyrie Ekproswpe, paramenei o stoxos gia to 2011, etsi mas eipate. Omws, se ligo kairo, ta ellhnika omologa qa einai sthn kathgoria twn skoypidiwn kai ta spreads einai sta 1.000 konta. Pws qa epiteyxqei o stoxos; Mhpws mas to lete gia na mas to peite olo ayto to pragma, oti qa bgoyme stis agores to 2011;

PETALWTHS: H basimothta twn logwn mas krinetai sto ti exoyme pei kai sto ti exoyme kanei. Synepws kai sto ti leme gia to mellon kai sto ti qa kanoyme. Emeis kataferame kai anatajame thn ajiopistia mas, poy exei amesh sxesh kai me tis agores kai me thn ajiopistia genikws poy exoyme kai sto ejwteriko kai sto eswteriko. Ayto emeis kataferame na to kanoyme mesa apo mia poly dyskolh sygkyria. Kai fysika, ta ellhnika omologa den einai sthn kathgoria twn skoypidiwn. Ayto den mporoyme oyte ws lejh, alla oyte ws frash na to dexqoyme.

XIDIROGLOY: Se ena pio eidiko qema. Blepoyme ston Typo anafores gia anhsyxhtika symbanta se pyrhnika ergostasia ths Boylgarias. Dedomenhs ths eggythtas, qa hqela na rwthsw an h Aqhna exei zhthsei enhmerwsh ap` th Sofia gia qemata poy aptontai ths asfaleias ston pyrhniko tomea, wste na mhn yparjoyn tipote poly dysarestes ekplhjeis sto mellon.

PETALWTHS: H xwra mas, genikotera, exei mia dedomenh eyaisqhsia. Gia to sygkekrimeno zhthma den gnwrizw an exei ginei kapoia diaboyleysh h kapoio diabhma. Qa sas enhmerwsw sxetika.

TSAKIRHS: Qelw na sas rwthsw an me aformh thn apocinh chfish toy Proypologismoy fobaste kapoies ekplhjeis, typoy k. Papaxrhstoy h kapoies diarroes kai ti mporei na shmainei.

PETALWTHS: Rwthse synadelfos sas me allo tropo. Exw apanthsei oti to megeqos ths eyqynhs to exoyn oloi oi boyleytes poly ayjhmeno.

MPEQANH: Pws h kybernhsh skopeyei na parembei sto na antimetwpistei h talaipwria toy epibatikoy koinoy; Afhnete anoixto to endexomeno epistrateyshs twn apergwn;

PETALWTHS: Emeis qeloyme na exoyme thn epitajh, ws esxato meso. Ayth th stigmh den to syzhtame. Ayto poy mas endiaferei, einai na synaisqanqoyn oloi tis eyqynes poy exoyn. Na erqoyn oloi sto trapezi toy dialogoy kai fysika na apodexqoyme ta sfalmata, ta laqh toy parelqontos. Kai ayto bebaia den afora mono thn kybernhsh kai toys politikoys. Afora kai toys idioys toys ergazomenoys, etsi wste na katoxyrwnetai kai to ergasiako toys symferon, alla kai polles paqogeneies poy tis plhrwnei kai tis exei plhrwsei en telei o ellhnikos laos, qa prepei na dexqoyme oloi oti qa prepei na tis apoballoyme. Ekeino, omws, poy einai kyriarxo krithrio gia oloys mas einai to dhmosio symferon. Kai to dhmosio symferon, h kaqe kybernhsh, oxi mono ayth, exei ypoxrewsh kai tropo na to diafylassei.

Sas eyxaristw kai sas eyxomai apo kardias o,ti kalytero gia tis giortes poy erxontai. --1427249692-293109303-1293092230=:3297--

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