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Greek Government Press Briefing, 10-12-06

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Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 6 Dekembrioy 2010

Ariqmos Deltioy: 304008056

Ekdosh 1

BRIEFING (061210)

KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 6 Dekembrioy 2010

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri kai kalh ebdomada.

H kybernhsh synexizei na ergazetai sklhra se polla epipeda gia thn ejodo ths xwras apo thn krish. Oi prospaqeies twn politwn exoyn arxisei na apodidoyn kai ayto anagnwrizetai dieqnws pleon kaqhmerina olo kai perissotero.

H anagnwrish olwn qa einai akomh megalyterh pio emfanhs kai entonh to amesws epomeno diasthma poy qa proxwrhsoyn me gorgo ryqmo oi megales diarqrwtikes allages. Oi allages kai oi tomes aytes poy qa allajoyn oristika th xwra mas kai qa mas bgaloyn apo thn krish. Gi` ayto stoxos mas einai na throyme aparegklita oloys toys stoxoys poy qesame, etsi wste na bgoyme apo thn krish, alla na bgoyme kai me megales allages gia th xwra mas.

Hdh kai me tis dieqneis epafes, poy arxizoyn malista apo shmera, prospaqoyme na empedwsoyme to aisqhma empistosynhs pros th xwra mas. Ena aisqhma empistosynhs poy qa prepei na to ajiopoihsoyme kai ayto hdh kanei h kybernhsh, gia th beltiwsh ths qeshs mas sta meizona oikonomika zhthmata ta opoia antimetwpizei h xwra mas.

Shmera, symplhrwnontai dyo xronia apo thn tragikh dolofonia toy nearoy Alejandroy Grhgoropoyloy. H Politeia me toys qesmoys ths Dikaiosynhs apedwse prosfata th Dikaiosynh. Timoyme oloi shmera th mnhmh toy paidioy aytoy, toy opoioy h aparadekth dolofonia odhghse kai sth diamartyria tote kai mexri kai shmera xiliadwn newn anqrwpwn.

Se sxesh me thn patajh ths tromokratias toso h kybernhsh oso kai o armodios ypoyrgos, k. Papoytshs, ekanan logo gia hxhro plhgma sthn tromokratia. Fysika ayto poy exoyme na poyme, ws kybernhsh, einai oti h Ellhnikh Astynomia kai oi yphresies poy synergasthkan apodidoyn, opws fainetai, arista sto ergo toys. Oi ereynes aytes synexizontai kai enhmerwnetai amesa kai diarkws o Prwqypoyrgos, gia tis opoies ejelijeis yparxoyn. Apo to apotelesma twn ereynwn fainetai oti h Ellhnikh Astynomia, h ellhnikh Politeia antimetwpizei me apotelesmatiko tropo thn patajh ths tromokratias sth xwra mas.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

MOSXOBAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, kat` arxas ena sxolio gia ta shmerina epeisodia kai mia apanthsh gia to gegonos oti h kybernhsh, to armodio ypoyrgeio phre tetoioy eidoys metra poy paromoia den exoyn lhfqei. Anaferomai sta metra gia thn apagoreysh ths kykloforias poy isxyoyn apo shmera stis 10.00 an den apatwmai, mexri ayrio stis 07.00. Gia poio logo synebh ayto, fobaste, exete kapoies plhrofories; Alla tetoia apagoreysh exei na dei to ellhniko kratos, nomizw, apo thn epoxh ths xoyntas.

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola kai egw akoyw gia mia genikh apagoreysh ths kykloforias, pragma poy fysika den isxyei. H kykloforia stamataei gia logoys asfaleias kai prostasias twn politwn, sta shmeia ekeina kai kata to xroniko diasthma ekeino opoy anamenetai na yparxoyn diadhlwseis, etsi wste na prostateyqoyn oi polites kai osoi diadhlwnoyn, alla kai osoi kinoyntai sto kentro ths Aqhnas. Den yparxei genikh apagoreysh kykloforias, opws akoyw apo to prwi. Kai ayto to blepoyn osoi kinoyntai shmera sto kentro ths polhs.

MOSXOBAS: Einai olos o mikros daktylios. Den einai mono h Panepisthmioy.

PETALWTHS: Opoy einai programmatismeno na ginoyn poreies, apagoreyetai h kykloforia twn oxhmatwn. Fysika, oi polites kinoyntai me ta Mesa Mazikhs Metaforas, etsi wste na yparxei asfaleia twn politwn.

MOSXOBAS: Gia ta epeisodia ena sxolio;

PETALWTHS: Poia epeisodia;

MOSXOBAS: Poy synebhsan prin apo ligo sto kentro ths Aqhnas. Nearoi espasan bitrines, petajan molotof kai eixame en pash periptwsei mia poly entonh kinhtikothta. Elpizoyme na mhn exoyme kati allo, alla eixame mia poly entonh kinhtikothta.

PETALWTHS: H Ellhnikh Astynomia kanei th doyleia ths. Epeidh anaferqhka kai prohgoymenws sto qlibero kai aparadekto gegonos ths dolofonias toy dekapentaxronoy Alejh Grhgoropoyloy, pisteyw oti opoios qelei na timhsei th mnhmh aytoy toy paidioy, to opoio egine symbolo gia toys neoys ths xwras mas, akribws tetoies energeies apofeygei, spasimata kai energeies bias. Giati h bia prepei na katadikazetai syllhbdhn apo opoy kai an proerxetai.

KOYTRAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ti perimenei h kybernhsh apo thn afijh toy k. Stros Kan kai toy k. Oli Ren ayth thn ebdomada;

PETALWTHS: Toso o epikefalhs toy D.N.T. k. Stros Kan, oso kai o armodios Epitropos ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs gia ta oikonomika, k. Oli Ren qa exoyn mia seira epafwn me thn politikh hgesia, qa enhmerwsoyn thn Epitroph Oikonomikwn Ypoqesewn sto Koinoboylio, alla kai toys koinwnikoys etairoys. Fysika, einai poly shmantiko gia emas na akoysoyme tis apoceis aytwn twn dieqnwn paragontwn oi opoioi exoyn kai poly shmantiko rolo sthn oikonomikh katastash ths Eyrwphs, alla kai pagkosmiws. Kai fysika na ekfrasoyme tis apoceis mas kai emeis, ws kybernhsh kai ta kommata kai oi politikoi paragontes kai oi boyleytes sthn Epitroph Oikonomikwn sthn opoia qa symmetexoyn kai oi dyo kai o k. Stros Kan kai o k. Oli Ren, alla kai oi koinwnikoi etairoi.

KOYTRAS: Qa ekfrastei epishmws aithma gia thn epimhkynsh apoplhrwmhs toy daneioy;

PETALWTHS: Tetoio aithma epishmws den yparxei, oyte fysika h episkech twn dyo andrwn afora kati tetoio. H apoch ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs einai gnwsth. Mesa sth syzhthsh poy ginetai, milame gia epimhkynsh ths apoplhrwmhs twn daneiwn mas. Apo ekei kai pera, ston katallhlo xrono qa yparjei kai to analogo aithma, efoson bebaia kriqei oti kai o xronos kai o tropos einai o katallhlos.

PAPPA: Ep` aytoy. O katallhlos xronos einai mhpws prin apo to Symboylio Koryfhs stis 16;

PETALWTHS: Einai ena zhthma to opoio meleta h ellhnikh kybernhsh kai otan einai o katallhlos xronos kai tropos qa ekdhlwqei.

STRATAKHS: Hqela na rwthsw, an h kybernhsh yposthrizei plhrws tis qeseis poy komizei stis Bryjelles h ypoyrgos Ergasias, peri proypoqesewn gia tis epixeirhsiakes symbaseis ergasias.

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, h k. Katselh brisketai stis Bryjelles giati synedriazei to Symboylio twn Ypoyrgwn Apasxolhshs gia genikotera zhthmata. Den exei sxesh h episkech ths me to nomosxedio to opoio qa katateqei. Na ypenqymisw oti qa oristikopoihqei to sxedio nomoy, efoson oloklhrwqei h diaboyleysh me toys koinwnikoys etairoys. Giati, gia emas einai para poly shmantiko na symfwnhsoyn oles oi pleyres, kyriws oi ergazomenoi kai oi ergodotes gia to eidos twn ergasiakwn sxesewn, to opoio qa prepei na yparjei, ean symfwnhsoyn fysika, mesa se ayth thn oikonomikh krish poy biwnoyme.

STRATAKHS: Kat` arxhn, prepei na epanaprosdiorisoyme poioi einai oi koinwnikoi etairoi poy kaqontai kai syzhtane kai diaboyleyontai. Kai deytero, ean den yparjei diaboyleysh...

PETALWTHS: Yparxei kapoia skech gia to poioi einai oi koinwnikoi etairoi kai kapoia diaforetikh apoch;

STRATAKHS: Etsi opws exoyn ejelixqei ta pragmata, arxizoyme na dierwtwmeqa poios diapragmateyetai me poioys.

PETALWTHS: Nomizw oti einai olofanero poios diapragmateyetai me poioys. Kai gi` ayto akribws qa prepei gia allh mia fora na tonisoyme oti to aisqhma eyqynhs poy prepei na exoyme oloi mas kai oxi mono ws kybernhsh h ws politika kommata, alla kai oi politikoi kai koinwnikoi etairoi, qa prepei na apodeiknyetai kai malista me qetiko tropo.

STRATAKHS: To erwthma moy, en pash periptwsei, einai oti an den yparjei diaboyleysh metajy twn koinwnikwn etairwn kai den yparjei symfwnia, ti qa kanei h kybernhsh;

PETALWTHS: H kybernhsh ayto poy exei na pei, ayth th stigmh, einai oti th synainesh kai th synennohsh twn koinwnikwn etairwn th qewroyme aparaithto stoixeio. Ena stoixeio, omws poy qa prepei na to skefqoyn kai oi etairoi. Einai shmantiko na exoyme oloi apoch. Me thn apoxwrhsh apo tis syzhthseis den bgainei akrh. Apo ekei kai pera, emeis perimenoyme na yparjei symfwnia se opoiodhpote epipedo symfwnhsoyn oi etairoi, prokeimenoy na oristikopoihqei kai to nomosxedio.

NEDOS: To dead line gia th symfwnia metajy twn koinwnikwn etairwn, poio einai; Einai sto telos ayths ths ebdomadas;

PETALWTHS: Einai diko toys qema. Qa prepei omws na yparjei syntoma synennohsh, giati qa prepei na oristikopoihsoyme to keimeno toy nomosxedioy kai na to kataqesoyme, gi' ayto akribws zhtame thn oloklhrwsh ths synennohshs toys.

NEDOS: Syggnwmh, ep' aytoy: mexri pote dhladh; Mexri telos toy xronoy;

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei dead line gia telos toy xronoy. Emeis qeloyme syntoma na kataqesoyme to nomosxedio.

KOYKLOYMPERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, to diakybeyma gia tis epixeirhsiakes symbaseis gia thn kybernhsh, einai ayto poy eqese xqes o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn; Dhladh, meiwseis misqwn h apolyseis;

PETALWTHS: O ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn den eqese tetoio diakybeyma. Einai ena zhthma to opoio tiqetai en pollois omws, otan, prokeimenoy na swqoyn epixeirhseis kai kat' epektash fysika na swqoyn qeseis ergasias, giati ayto einai to zhtoymeno gia oloys mas kai kyriws gia thn kybernhsh, qa prepei na yparjei ekeinh h elastikopoihsh poy na epitrepei, mesa se poly sygkekrimena periqwria me poly aysthres proypoqeseis xronoy kai tropoy, mia diaforetikh morfh symbasewn ergasias, ef' oson fysika throyntai oi proypoqeseis poy qa teqoyn, apokleiomenhs ths ryqmishs misqwn katw apo to plafon ths eqnikhs genikhs syllogikhs symbashs ergasias.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Epeidh, ektos apo th synainesh twn koinwnikwn etairwn, o Prwqypoyrgos exei zhthsei kai th synainesh twn politikwn arxhgwn, yparxei kapoio newtero gia thn epafh poy qa epidiwjei na exei mazi toys kai to sxedio epi toy opoioy qa zhthsei synainesh;

PETALWTHS: Den exei oristikopoihqei o tropos me ton opoio qa zhthqei h synainesh, alla h synainesh einai mia diarkhs proklhsh kai prosklhsh ek meroys toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Akomh kai oi kaqhmerines prajeis olwn twn politikwn forewn deixnoyn, ean pragmatika qeloyn na yparjei synainesh se sygkekrimena kai shmantika zhthmata toy topoy mas kai fysika qa oristikopoihqei kai h morfh ths.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie ypoyrge, shmera o k. Papaqanasioy exei kanei mia makroskelestath grapth dhlwsh, opoy peripoy kathgorei to PASOK oti foyskwse to elleimma toy 2009 kata 10 dis eyrw kai oti s' ayto ofeiletai to problhma ths xwras.

PETALWTHS: Einai alhqeia oti olo ayto to xrono poy eimaste kybernhsh, ta stelexh ths N.D., poy dietelesan ypoyrgoi ths kybernhshs Karamanlh, anti na deijoyn mia syneth stash bgainoyn akomh kai shmera, otan mexri prin apo liges meres h idia h Eurostat anakoinwse akomh pio megalo to anaqewrhmeno elleimma gia to 2009 kai amfisbhtoyn to ycos toy elleimmatos. Einai pragmatika qrasos na tolma kapoio stelexos, to opoio yphrje ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn ths kybernhshs ths N.D., toy k. Karamanlh, na amfisbhtei to ycos toy elleimmatos kai malista stelexh ths N.D. poy me thn politikh toys kai me th stash toys eferan th xwra mas sto xeilos ths xreokopias. H antimetwpish omws, apo oloys toys synetoys kai skeptomenoys anqrwpoys einai eniaia kai den qa hqela na thn xarakthrisw shmera edw s' ayth thn aiqoysa.

STRATAKHS: Qa moy epitrecete, kyrie Ekproswpe, na gyrisw stis epixeirhsiakes symbaseis kai na rwthsw ean apasxoloyn kaqoloy thn kybernhsh oi epiptwseis poy qa exoyn ta asfalistika tameia mesa apo th meiwsh twn misqwn poy problepetai apo tis epixeirhsiakes symbaseis. Exei, dhladh, kan asxolhqei m' ayto to qema; Exei akoysei toys eidhmones poy lene oti ayth h meiwsh twn misqwn qa epiferei ena kairio plhgma sta asfalistika tameia; Kai ara oti qa paei pisw olo to asfalistiko oikodomhma poy molis prin apo dyo mhnes paroysiasate;

PETALWTHS: Oles oi parametroi lambanontai yp' ocin kai fysika den prokeitai na ricokindyneysoyme kamia apo tis megales diarqrwtikes allages, oi opoies eginan apo th dikh mas kybernhsh. Ayto einai dedomeno.

STRATAKHS: Gia poio logo synantatai shmera o Prwqypoyrgos me ton k. Barroso; Yparxei sygkekrimenh atzenta s' ayth th synanthsh;

PETALWTHS: O k. Barroso einai proedros ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs. Eixe zhthsei ayth th synanthsh, edw ki ena megalo xroniko diasthma. H atzenta einai anoixth. Qa syzhthqoyn ola ta zhthmata poy aforoyn thn Eyrwpaikh  Enwsh kai th xwra mas: Oi dimereis sxeseis, alla kai genikotera h olh katastash stis xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Antilambanomaste, loipon, oti to pedio einai poly anoixto kai poly eyry.

STRATAKHS: H kybernhsh anamenei kati ap' ayth th synanthsh se sxesh me ta zhthmata toy xreoys, ths epimhkynshs apoplhrwmhs, toy zhthmatos toy eyrwpaikoy mhxanismoy sthrijhs; Einai gnwstes oi qeseis me tis opoies phgainei o k. Papandreoy ekei;

PETALWTHS: Tis qeseis mas kai tis exoyme pei dhmosiws kai tis exoyme dhlwsei ws kybernhsh kai eidikotera o k. Papandreoy, fysika ws Prwqypoyrgos, sta organa ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs. Synepws, o k. Barroso tis gnwrizei. Einai qeseis, omws, poy ejeidikeyontai akomh perissotero kai fysika den prepei na jexname oti briskomaste sth diadromh pros thn Eyrwpaikh Synodo Koryfhs stis 16 kai 17 Dekembrioy, opoy qa lhfqoyn poly shmantikes apofaseis gia tis xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs kai eidikotera gia ton eyrwpaiko mhxanismo sthrijhs gia ton opoio h Ellada exei prwtostathsei.

MOSXOBAS: O k. Papandreoy exei taxqei, mazi me toys sosialistes ana ton kosmo, sthn kateyqynsh ths ekdoshs eyrwomologoy. Xqes, me arqro toys, dyo koryfaia stelexh ths Eyrwpaikhs  Enwshs -o Prwqypoyrgos toy Loyjemboyrgoy Jean-Claude Juncker kai o Italos ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn kaqhghths Giulio Tremonti- zhthsan me koino arqro toys ekdosh eyrwomologoy, kati to opoio aperrice h Germanida Kagkelarios Angela Merkel. Yparxei eikona en ocei toy Symboylioy Koryfhs oti exei dhmioyrghqei mia symmaxia metajy twn xwrwn poy to epiqymoyn gia na kataqesoyn mia sxetikh protash;

PETALWTHS: H ekdosh eyrwomologoy htan mia protash thn opoia eixe kanei apo toys prwtoys, an oxi prwtos, o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos, Giwrgos Papandreoy, arketo xrono prin th shmerinh syzhthsh h opoia exei anoijei. Kai fysika h protash ayth exei na kanei me thn oikonomikh asfaleia twn xwrwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, me thn akomh pio isxyrh eyrwpaikh synoxh. Mia protash thn opoia ensternizontai pleon kai alles xwres ths Eyrwphs. Omws, gnwrizoyme oti h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh einai enas kat' ejoxhn xwros diapragmateysewn mesa sta eyrwpaika qesmika organa kai se epipedo symmetoxhs olwn anejairetws twn xwrwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Synepws, einai mia protash h opoia akomh zymwnetai kai einai ypo diapragmateysh diarkeias.

PAPPA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa qelate na mas peite en ocei toy Symboylioy Koryfhs stis Bryjelles poy eseis xarakthrisate krisimo, poioi einai oi stoxoi ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs; Ti qelei na parei apo ekei;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap' ola, h ellhnikh kybernhsh exei xarajei ena dromo. Ena dromo poy sthn arxh htan monaxikos. Me tis megales, omws, prospaqeies kai th dieqnh proswpikothta toy k. Papandreoy, o dromos aytos apedwse, fysika me thn ekpefrasmenh sthrijh toy ellhnikoy laoy, otan h Ellada fantaze ws h monh xwra poy dierxetai mia oikonomikh krish. Dystyxws, shmera, gia thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai alles xwres-melh briskontai pleon se asxhmh oikonomikh katastash. Synepws, h dhmioyrgia enos monimoy mhxanismoy sthrijhs aytwn twn xwrwn ths Eyrwphs poy antimetwpizoyn h qa antimetwpisoyn argotera oikonomiko problhma analogo me to problhma ths xwras mas, einai enas stoxos, ston opoio h Ellada exei prwteyonta logo kai rolo. Kai fysika, kamia xwra den paei memonwmena s' ayth thn poreia. Einai loipon, shmantiko kai gia thn Ellada na yparxei enas staqeros eyrwpaikos mhxanismos poy na apotrepei thn krish se alles xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Kai fysika apo mia tetoia syzhthsh kai diapragmateysh poy ginetai, h xwra mas mono enisxymenh mporei na bgei.

MOSXOBAS: 'Hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs gia thn apoch poy ejefrase o Antiproedros ths Kybernhshs o k. Qeodwros Pagkalos me epistolh poy esteile sthn hlektronikh selida Zougla.gr, zhtwntas na afaireqoyn sxolia poy eixan grafei enantion toy kai zhtwntas na apokalycei to site thn hlektronikh taytothta aytwn poy eixan anarthsei ayta ta sxolia. Dedomenoy oti o k. Papandreoy exei milhsei polles fores gia thn eleyqeria toy diadiktyoy, hqela thn apoch ths kybernhshs.

PETALWTHS: Pragmati, einai se oloys gnwsto oti o k. Papandreoy exei sygkekrimenh apoch gia to diadiktyo kai einai apo toys prwtoys poy asxolhqhkan me to diadiktyo. Omws, apo ekei kai pera, qa prepei na yparxoyn kai kapoia oria. O k. Pagkalos, opws kai polloi alloi politikoi, einai alhqeia oti ejybrizetai systhmatika kai malista me enan tropo oxi kalopisths h kakopisths kritikhs, alla me enan tropo akrws ybristiko, o opoios kaqe allo para prosferei sth dhmosia politikh syzhthsh. Qa prepei na yparxei mia aytorryqmish twn Meswn ta opoia epekteinoyn th drash toys sto diadiktyo, etsi wste, pragmati, oloi oi polites na prostateyontai, oxi apo thn epibeblhmenh kritikh thn opoia emeis, oytws h allws, epizhtoyme, alla apo enan kata syrrohn kai kat' ejakoloyqhsin diasyrmo, ton opoio yfistatai kai o k. Pagkalos pleon.

MOSXOBAS: Dhladh, proteinete na yparjei arsh ths anwnymias, toy aporrhtoy dhladh poy diasfalizei aytoys poy grafoyn o,ti grafoyn h na yparjei apo thn pleyra toy mesoy logokrisia, katebazontas ta sxolia ayta;

PETALWTHS: Ayth th stigmh den yposthrizw kati tetoio. Ekeino poy yposthrizw einai mia genikh arxh enanti ths opoias ypeyqynoi eimaste oloi mas. Den prepei na epitrepoyme mia kritikh kai ena anoigma twn Meswn poy drasthriopoioyntai sto diadiktyo -to opoio ontws epitrepei thn eleyqerh kykloforia twn apocewn kai idewn, thn akomh pio eleyqerh mallon kykloforia apocewn kai idewn- na metatrapei se enan xwro ejybrishs sygkekrimenwn proswpwn. Ekei einai eyqynh olwn mas. Kai qa prepei, pragmatika, ayto na to prostateysoyme, giati etsi akribws, me ayton ton tropo, prostateyetai kai o xarakthras toy diadiktyoy ws enas topos kat' ejoxhn eleyqerias diakinhshs twn idewn.

MOSXOBAS: Eseis symmerizesqe thn apoch toy k. Pagkaloy oti prepei na apokalyfqei h hlektronikh taytothta aytwn poy egracan ayta ta sygkekrimena sxolia;

PETALWTHS: O k. Pagkalos ypesth mia systhmatikh ejybrish. Synepws, exei ena sygkekrimeno aithma. Ayto poy leme emeis ws kybernhsh, einai oti qa prepei na anoijei mia syzhthsh, etsi wste na yparxei pragmatikh prostasia apo toys kaq' ejin ybristes. Kai ekei eimaste ypeyqynoi oloi mas.

STRATAKHS: Ep` aytoy hqela na rwthsw. Twra molis mas eipate gia aytorryqmish twn Meswn Enhmerwshs poy anaptyssontai sto diadiktyo, gi` ayto aposyrate kai den proxwrhsate se prwtoboylia poy eixate etoimasei kai qa aforoyse kai ta Mesa Enhmerwshs sto diadiktyo. Exete prokrinei, dhladh, ws politikh sas thn aytorryqmish;

PETALWTHS: Qa einai protimotero gia oloys mas ayth h syzhthsh na jekinhsei apo ta Mesa Mazikhs Enhmerwshs. Na yparxei enas tropos prostasias olwn mas, kyriws twn Meswn Mazikhs Enhmerwshs, toy xarakthra toys, ws eleyqero pedio askhshs kritikhs, akomh kai poly drimeias kritikhs. Alla, ayto qa prepei na prostateyqei apo oloys mas.

STRATAKHS: Den einai mono to zhthma kyrie Ekproswpe ths ylhs toy Mesoy, alla kai pws qa diepontai oi ergasiakes sxeseis sta mesa ayta.

PETALWTHS: Ayto einai ena allo zhthma.

STRATAKHS: Oxi, einai ena sfairiko zhthma. Den mporei na nomoqeteis gia ena pragma kata to hmisy.

PETALWTHS: Kat` arxas, den nomoqeteis. Kai ayth th stigmh den syzhtame gia to qema twn ergasiakwn sxesewn.

KOYTRAS: Skefteste tropopoihsh twn ergasiakwn sxesewn kai sto dhmosio, opws p.x. thn arsh ths monimothtas h mono gia ton idiwtiko tomea;

PETALWTHS: H monimothta den yparxei ston idiwtiko tomea. Emeis ton teleytaio xrono prospaqoyme na ejorqologisoyme to ellhniko Dhmosio. Kai ayto hdh to katafernoyme se megalo baqmo, diapistwnontas prwta ap` ola poioi misqodotoyntai apo to ellhniko Dhmosio, mexri kai ton ejorqologismo kai thn orqh katanomh symfwna me tis anagkes twn dhmosiwn yphresiwn. Ayto bebaiws den exei na kanei me apolyseis, opws akoysthke aytes tis hmeres. Alla akribws, me ton ejorqologismo toy ellhnikoy Dhmosioy ejorqologizontai kai oi qeseis ergasias, etsi wste pragmatika na ergazontai aytoi kai osoi exei anagkh to ellhniko Dhmosio.

KOYTRAS: Na tropopoihsete, egw sas rwthsa tis ergasiakes sxeseis. P.x. ean enas anqrwpos o opoios proslambanetai sto Dhmosio, qa parei syntajh apo to Dhmosio. Qa allajei ayto to pragma;

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei tetoia skech sthn kybernhsh.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo apogeyma. --1427249692-1572468213-1291672635=:10632--


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