Greek Government Press Briefing, 10-02-08

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Deytera, 8 Febroyarioy 2010

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 8 Febroyarioy 2010

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri kai kalh ebdomada.

H xwra mas kaleitai shmera na antimetwpisei mia prwtofanh krish gia thn Ellada ths metapoliteyshs. Me apolyth synaisqhsh ths eyqynhs, eimaste ypoxrewmenoi na kataferoyme kai na odhghsoyme th xwra, me asfaleia, sthn ejodo apo ayth thn krish. Den kanoyme politikh diaxeirishs ths krishs. Den mas endiaferei apla na jeperasoyme to skopelo. H kybernhsh einai apofasismenh na metatrecei th dysmenh ayth sygkyria, se eykairia oysiastikhs, qetikhs allaghs twn domwn toy kratoys, se eykairia oikonomikhs anasygkrothshs, dhmosionomikoy ejorqologismoy kai koinwnikhs dikaiosynhs. Prepei na ginei antilhpto oti to protypo toy anejelegkta yperogkoy daneismoy, gia thn kalych basikwn dhmosionomikwn allagwn, xwris strathgikh, poy exei akoloyqhqei kata koron sto parelqon, exei pleon fqasei sta oria toy.

To neo forologiko nomosxedio, to neo asfalistiko systhma, to nomosxedio gia thn eisodhmatikh politikh, oi rizikes tomes ston agrotiko tomea, alla kai h genikoterh leitoyrgia toy kratoys, apoteloyn pleon monodromo, gia mia Ellada ths proodoy kai ths anaptyjhs poy qa afhsei pisw ths oristika, oxi mono th shmerinh krish, alla kai tis xronies aities, tis agkylwseis kai tis paqogeneies poy thn eqrecan kai th diogkwsan. Qa epanalambanoyme synexeia oti shmera, ta periqwria exoyn stenecei gia omadika symferonta kai diekdikhseis. Se aytes tis krisimes stigmes proexei to dhmosio symferon.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

MOSXOBAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epibebaiwnete oti yparxei se plhrh ejelijh ena sxedio toy gallogermanikoy ajona gia diaswsh ths ellhnikhs oikonomias kai ayto qa teqei ypoch ths Synodoy Koryfhs thn erxomenh Pempth;

PETALWTHS: Epanalambanw gia allh mia fora, oti h megalh oikonomikh krish poy dierxetai h Ellada, einai qema ths Elladas basika. Emeis, thn krish qa thn jeperasoyme monoi mas. Gnwrizoyme tis aities, gnwrizoyme ti thn prokalese kai einai eykairia, opws eipa prohgoymenws, mesa apo ayth thn krish na doyme oles tis aities, tis agkylwseis toy parelqontos, gia na kanoyme oles tis baqies kai rizikes allages, oi opoies apaitoyntai. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws, eimaste melos ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, sto steno pyrhna ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, sthn ONE, poy shmainei oti yparxei kai h eyrwpaikh allhleggyh. Sta plaisia ths eyrwpaikhs allhleggyhs kinoymaste kai qa kinoymaste, opws oles oi xwres ths Eyrwphs.

MOSXOBAS: Egw rwthsa, an exete ypoch sas, ws kybernhsh, ena tetoio sxedio. Kai an, opws lene kapoies plhrofories, qesei qema koinhs antimetwpishs twn problhmatwn twn xwrwn ths eyrwzwnhs o k. Papandreoy, sth synanthsh toy me ton k. Sarkozi kai sth Synodo Koryfhs.

PETALWTHS: Qa yparxoyn oi anakoinwseis kai meta thn episkech toy k. Papandreoy ston k. Sarkozi kai sth Synodo Koryfhs. Qa exoyme thn eykairia, sth synenteyjh Typoy, na analysoyme ti eipwqhke kai ti syzhthseis eginan. H genikh pantws grammh kai to genikotero plaisio, einai ayto poy sas ejeqesa prin.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pio sygkekrimena: Einai diateqeimenos o Prwqypoyrgos, exei proqesh na syzhthsei me ton k. Sarkozi to qema ths ekdoshs enos eyrwomologoy;

PETALWTHS: Kai o Prwqypoyrgos exei pei oti to qema toy eyrwomologoy genikws einai anoixto. Briskomaste se mia periodo poy ola ta zhthmata einai anoixta. Ean teqei tetoio zhthma, qa anakoinwqei.

PAPPA: Antilambanomaste, kyrie Ekproswpe, oti h Ellada ws ``to mayro probato'' twra sthn eyrwzwnh, den qa hqele na qesei qema eyrwomologoy. Alla dedomenoy oti fainetai na yparxei enas synaspismos me tis xwres toy Notoy poy antimetwpizoyn paremferh problhmata, ayto den dieykolynei ton Prwqypoyrgo na mpei se ayth th syzhthsh;

PETALWTHS: To oti kai alles xwres toy notoy ths Eyrwphs -sygkekrimenes xwres, gnwrizoyme, antimetwpizoyn paromoia problhmata- einai ena zhthma poy qetei ston pyrhna twn syzhthsewn, to megalo qema twn agorwn, ths kerdoskopias, twn aitiwn poy exoyn epiferei ayth thn krish, kaqws kai protaseis, idees kai lyseis gia to jeperasma ths krishs. Sta plaisia ths eyrwpaikhs allhleggyhs, oles oi xwres poy plhttontai, qa qesoyn to zhthma ths epiqeshs ayths poy toys ginetai kai ths krishs poy pernane, perissotero apo tis alles xwres. Einai qema ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs na to syzhthsei kai na to ajiologhsei.

SIDERHS: Eipate oti den kanete politikh diaxeirish ths krishs. Eyxaristo, gi` ayto profanws se Dysh kai Anatolh gia thn prasinh anaptyjh.

PETALWTHS: Kai oxi mono.

SIDERHS: Toys ypeyqynoys twn eforiwn, pote qa toys allajete;

PETALWTHS: Yparxei se ejelijh mia diadikasia. Exoyme pei polles fores oti emeis den qeloyme na baloyme politikoys proistamenoys stis D.O.Y. Qeloyme na yparjei mia diadikasia, etsi wste na diasfalistei h antikeimenikothta kai h nomimothta stis epiloges mas. Kai gi` ayto akribws, moy dinete kai thn eykairia na pw oti erxetai kai to nomosxedio apo to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn gia thn epilogh genikwn dieyqyntwn, me antikeimenika ajiokratika krithria, poy den qa allazoyn analoga me to komma to opoio erxetai sthn kybernhsh. Synepws, oloi oi proistamenoi se oles tis yphresies ginontai me gnwmona to dhmosio symferon kai ejelissontai. An moy epitrepete, epeidh profanws syndeetai me ta esoda poy prepei na eisprattoyn oi efories.

SIDERHS: Akribws.

PETALWTHS: Yparxei ena megalo zhthma. As mhn jexname oti oi elegktikoi kai oi foroeispraktikoi mhxanismoi epi Neas Dhmokratias eixan katarghqei kai eixan apisxnhqei, eixan apocilwqei. Kai malista otan, poly eyxarista, h Nea Dhmokratia elege oti qa katarghsoyme to SDOE, katarghse oloys aytoys toy mhxanismoys, me apotelesma na plhrwnoyn teleiws adika aytoi poy den qa eprepe na plhrwnoyn. Emeis qetoyme tis baseis na dhmioyrghsoyme ypodomes yparjhs kai stelexwshs tetoioy eidoys mhxanismwn kai gia eisprattontai oi foroi kai oi eisfores gia ta asfalistika Tameia. Kai ayto einai to kyriarxo.

BITALHS: Epanerxomai sto prohgoymeno qema, to ti qa ginei me tis xwres toy Notoy kai an yparxei kapoia koinh grammh pleyshs. Lete oti oles oi xwres poy plhttontai qa qesoyn to qema. Einai h prohgoymenh apanthsh sas sto erwthma poy sas egine. Yparxei, dhladh, hdh, qa legame tropon tina, syzhthsh, katalhjh se kapoia sygkekrimena platforma, toylaxiston twn triwn xwrwn poy jeroyme oti exoyn ayto to problhma, gia na pane me poly sygkekrimenes qeseis se ayth th Synodo Koryfhs;

PETALWTHS: Ek twn pragmatwn, h krish stis xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs qa apasxolhsoyn tis Synodoys ths E.E. kai ola ta organa. Ayth th stigmh, den mporoyme na anakoinwsoyme oti yparxei kapoia koinh platforma. Omws, einai ena antikeimeniko zhthma to oti kai alles xwres ths Eyrwphs pernoyn mia krish. Kai fysika qa prepei ayth h krish na antimetwpistei kai sta eyrwpaika organa.

STRATAKHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, toso eseis shmera, oso kai o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn exei pei oti den xreiazomaste bohqeia. An yparjei ena sxedio sygkekrimeno entos ths Eyrwzwnhs, to opoio qa qetei orismenes xwres toy Notoy, opws lete, anamesa se aytes kai thn Ellada, se ena sygkekrimeno sxedio, qa arnhqei h xwra mas na parei meros se ena tetoio sxedio;

PETALWTHS: Einai ypoqetikh h erwthsh sas. Antilambanomai tis anhsyxies kai thn agwnia olwn mas. Alla, an teqei zhthma, tote qa to doyme.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, ta qemata poy exoyn sxesh me th forologia kai thn eisodhmatikh politikh apasxoloyn poly entona thn koinwnia kai tis laikes tajeis. Qa hqela na mas peite, pote qa paroysiastoyn telesidika, gia na exei mia eikona o ellhnikos laos.

PETALWTHS: Kata pasa piqanothta, entos ths ebdomadas, qa paroysiastei kai to nomosxedio gia thn eisodhmatikh politikh, oloklhrwmeno pleon, alla kai oi genikoi ajones toy forologikoy systhmatos, meta apo th dhmosia diaboyleysh kai th diaboyleysh me toys koinwnikoys etairoys poy exei oloklhrwqei. Entos twn hmerwn, qa eimaste enhmeroi kai gia ta dyo. Qa chfistei prwta to nomosxedio gia thn eisodhmatikh politikh kai argotera to forologiko nomosxedio.

GARGALAKOS: Nai, kai kati allo akoma: Exei arxisei mia benteta anamesa sto grammatea toy PASOK kai ton k. Panagiwtakopoylo. Malista, prepei na sas pw oti shmera kai o grammateas toy PASOK, milwntas sto Kanali 1, anoije thn porta ths ejodoy ston k. Panagiwtakopoylo, alla kai apo thn pleyra toy to palaio stelexos toy PASOK milhse gia neossoys ths politikhs kai ton kalese na asxolhqei me to komma poy parapaiei kai eipe oti logw asymfwnias xarakthrwn den feygei aytos apo to PASOK. Pws sxoliazete olh ayth th benteta;

PETALWTHS: Egw ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, den mporw na sxoliasw tis ejelijeis mesa sto komma toy PASOK. Ayto poy mporw na pw einai oti safws kai den yparxei benteta. Kai o grammateas k. Jynidhs, alla kai o k. Panagiwtakopoylos, palaio empeirotato stelexos me megalh prosfora sto Kinhma, exoyn tis apoceis toys. Sto PASOK brisketai se ejelijh oloys aytoys toys mhnes h stelexwsh twn tomewn gia thn kalyterh kai eyryqmh leitoyrgia toy, giati pleon einai ena komma poy den brisketai sthn antipoliteysh, alla sthn kybernhsh. Den nomizw oti yparxei benteta. Oloi mazi poreyomaste, akomh kai se diaforetikes proseggiseis. Kai ta dyo stelexh gia ta opoia milame, exoyn dwsei kai dinoyn shmantikes kaqhmerines maxes. Synepws, as meinoyme ekei.

POLYMEROS: Dhladh, qelete na mas peite oti thn kybernhsh den thn enoxloyn oi parembaseis toy k. Panagiwtakopoyloy; Edw osa bgainei kai leei o Prwqypoyrgos, thn amesws epomenh stigmh bgainei o k. Panagiwtakopoylos kai ta kaqybrizei me ton opoiodhpote tropo.

PETALWTHS: O k. Panagiwtakopoylos einai stelexos toy PASOK. O Prwqypoyrgos einai Prwqypoyrgos ths xwras. H kybernhsh askei ypeyqynh politikh, gnwrizontas oti briskomaste se mia poly dyskolh sygkyria. Lambanoyme apofaseis oi opoies einai dysarestes. Einai sigoyro oti qa yparxoyn kai amfisbhthseis kai dysareskeies kai diaforetikes proseggiseis. To zhthma poy antimetwpizei h kybernhsh einai poly megalo. Einai zhthma oikonomiko, forologiko, asfalistiko. Asxoloymaste me ayta. Emeis epizhtoyme tis diaforetikes proseggiseis. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, oi apofaseis einai apofaseis ths kybernhshs.

POLYMEROS: Miso lepto. To oti to komma parapaiei, den einai diaforetikh proseggish. Dhladh, an mh ti allo, kapoia stigmh prepei na deite ti qa ginei me ayth...

PETALWTHS: Safws kai den dexomaste, opws eipa kai prohgoymenws, oti to komma parapaiei. Einai mia nea katastash gia to PASOK. Edw kai treis mhnes eimaste kybernhsh. H katastash allazei kai organwtika kai kommatika. Hdh brisketai se diadikasia stelexwshs tomewn kai ylopoihshs kommatikwn stoxwn.

MOSXOBAS: Epeidh eipate oti afhnete na ennohqei oti h kontra einai gia tis karekles;

PETALWTHS: Oxi, bebaia.

MOSXOBAS: Ti sxesh exei me th stelexwsh twn tomewn; Qelete na apodeijete oti den parapaiei to komma. Malista.

PETALWTHS: Bebaiws kai den parapaiei. Safws kai den yparxei kamia kontra gia tis karekles.

MOSXOBAS: Symfwnoi. Omws, exoyme loipon dyo diaforetikes rizika proseggiseis. H mia toy k. Panagiwtakopoyloy poy xarakthrizei ws thn pio sklhrh neofileleyqerh politikh ayth poy ejhggeile o Prwqypoyrgos apo to '74 kai enteyqen, symperilambanomenhs kai ths kybernhshs Mhtsotakh kai apo thn allh exoyme ton k. Jynidh na leei oti opoios qewrei oti einai neofileleyqera ayta ta metra, as fygei apo to komma. Einai dyo rizika diaforetikes proseggiseis. Den exei na kanei me to an einai to PASOK sthn kybernhsh h an den einai. Eseis poia apo tis dyo apoceis symmerizeste;

PETALWTHS: Egw sas eipa oti eimai Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos kai den sxoliazw tis dhlwseis toy kaqe stelexoys.

MOSXOBAS: (den akoygetai)

PETALWTHS: Ayto poy exw na sas pw, omws, einai oti einai mia proseggish thn opoia safws kai den ensternizetai h kybernhsh. Exoyme ejhghsei, polles fores, oti oi epiloges mas se polla zhthmata einai anagkastikes. Exoyme stoxoys, skopoys. Ejartatai apo to poia pleyra to blepei o kaqenas.

MOSXOBAS: Ara kalyptete ton k. Jynidh kai an (den akoygetai);

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei qema na kalycw kanenan. O k. Jynidhs kalyptei ton eayto toy. Einai Grammateas, exei th nomimopoihsh. Eklexqhke poly prosfata me mia nwph entolh, mesa apo to Eqniko Symboylio. Den exei anagkh kalychs. Kanei mia ejairetikh doyleia. Brisketai, sxedon, kaqhmerina me stelexh kai me polites se olh thn Ellada. O k. Panagiwtakopoylos kanei mia proseggish.

MOSXOBAS: Ara eseis me ayth th logikh qewreite oti akomh kai an sas lene oti ta metra poy pairnete einai neofileleyqera, den xreiazetai na fygei apo to komma kapoios.

PETALWTHS: Sas eipa oti yparxoyn diaforetikes proseggiseis. Apantame me thn politikh mas. Den einai qema diko moy  kai eidika shmera  na asxoloymai me tetoioy eidoys qemata. Exoyme na asxolhqoyme me tosa synqeta kai dyskola zhthmata poy aforoyn sth xwra, poy oi dhlwseis toy kaqe stelexoys den qa sxoliazontai apo emena. Ayto einai safes.

SIDERHS: Sto idio, epitrepete; Kyrie Ekproswpe...

PETALWTHS: An kai to idio den einai qema syzhthshs se ayth thn aiqoysa.

SIDERHS: Epitrecte moy. Exete apolyto dikio eseis san kybernhtikos ekproswpos, den mporeite na ypeiselqete kai na apantate gia to komma. Prepei na apeyqynqoyme sto komma. Se poion qa apeyqynqoyme; Poios einai o ekproswpos;

PETALWTHS: To komma einai sthn odo Ippokratoys. Yparxei Grammateas toy kommatos, opoy mporeite na apeyqynqeite.

SIDERHS: Gia ton ekproswpo Typoy sas rwthsa.

PAPPA: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw an exete na mas peite kati gia ayth thn syskech, gia thn eisodhmatikh politikh poy brisketai se ejelijh. Mporei na exei teleiwsei kai twra kai an ayrio qa exei Ypoyrgiko Symboylio.

PETALWTHS: H syskech den exei teleiwsei, synexizetai. Einai mia apo tis polles syskeceis poy ginontai gia thn eisodhmatikh politikh, gia to forologiko. An yparxoyn anakoinwseis, qa dhmosiopoihqoyn. Ayrio, kata pasa piqanothta, qa yparjei atypo Ypoyrgiko Symboylio Qa anakoinwqei kai h atzenta toy.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes h istoselida NEWS TIME ebgale ena keimeno, kata to opoio  an isxyoyn oi plhrofories qelw na moy peite  o k. Basilopoylos einai o neos Ellhnas Eyrwdikasths. Einai prwhn synergaths toy k. Paylopoyloy, o opoios klhrodothqhke argotera ston k. Flwraith. Synergazontai epi xronia me thn k. Sioyth kai h egkrish doqhke apo ton k. Pampoykh. Isxyei ayto h yphrjan alles diadikasies;

PETALWTHS: Otan qa yparxei apofash, qa yparjei kai safhs anakoinwsh.

QEODWROPOYLOS: H kybernhsh kai o Prwqypoyrgos exoyn dhlwsei kata kairoys oti h ayjhsh twn oriwn syntajiodothshs den diasfalizei thn biwsimothta toy asfalistikoy systhmatos. H prwth apofash poy phrate gia to asfalistiko systhma, o idios o Prwqypoyrgos to anakoinwse, htan h ayjhsh twn oriwn syntajiodothshs. Ti qa peite twra stoys ergazomenoys poy ayjanontai kata 2 kai 3 xronia ta oria poy bgainoyn sth syntajh xwris na diasfalizei th biwsimothta twn Tameiwn, opws eseis lete;

PETALWTHS: Emeis qa diasfalisoyme thn biwsimothta twn Tameiwn. Emeis eimaste aytoi poy kanoyme megales allages gia na yparxoyn biwsima Tameia kai na dinontai dikaies, kata to dynaton, syntajeis. O Prwqypoyrgos ekane kapoies ejaggelies. H ejeidikeysh olwn twn metrwn qa anakoinwqei entos twn hmerwn apo ton armodio Ypoyrgo k. Loberdo. Opote, as perimenoyme na doyme kai analytika ta oria syntajiodothshs.

MOSXOBAS: Epeidh egine megalh syzhthsh gia to ti akribws ennooyse o Prwqypoyrgos. Anaferotan sta genika h sta eidika oria syntajiodothshs;

PETALWTHS: Qa to ejeidikeysei o k. Loberdos.

MOSXOBAS: Den exete na mas peite kati eseis ep' aytoy.

PETALWTHS: Oxi.

Sas eyxaristw.

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