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Greek Government Press Briefing, 10-02-05Greek Government Press Briefings in ASCII Greek Directory - Previous Article - Next ArticleFrom: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>Dieyqynsh PlhroforhshsTmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn Paraskeyh, 5 Febroyarioy 2010 Ariqmos Deltioy: 250010791 Ekdosh 1 brf0502 KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS Aqhna, 5 Febroyarioy 2010H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPOGIWRGO PETALWTH Kalo meshmeri. " Katateqhke xqes to nomosxedio gia thn anejarthtopoihsh ths Statistikhs Yphresias kai thn anabaqmish ths se Dioikhtikh Anejarthth Arxh. Qwrakizoyme to kratos kai thn ajiopistia ths xwras mas, diasfalizoyme th diafaneia, thn apotypwsh kai thn ajiologhsh twn statistikwn mas stoixeiwn. Bazoyme telos stis alxhmeies twn prohgoymenwn etwn, poy ejeqesan th xwra anepanorqwta kai kallierghsan klima anajiopistias ths xwras mas. Ayto to elleimma ajiopistias anaplhrwnoyme shmera kai to plhrwnoyme shmera, kai ws xwra, alla kai ws kaqe poliths jexwrista. Me qesmikes eggyhseis leitoyrgikhs anejarthsias, thn epopteia ths Boylhs twn Ellhnwn kai th systash Symboylioy Ellhnikoy Statistikoy Systhmatos, h nea Ellhnikh Statistikh Arxh apotelei ryqmish, parakataqhkh gia tis epomenes genees kai apodeiknyei th synepeia kai thn apofasistikothta ths kybernhshs sthn thrhsh toy Programmatos Staqerothtas, Anaptyjhs kai Anasygkrothshs. H idrysh ths Anejarthths Statistikhs Arxhs apotelei oroshmo sthn proshlwsh mas gia th diafaneia pantoy. " Se ayto to plaisio diafaneias, alla kai kalhs leitoyrgias kai grhgorhs anasygkrothshs twn mhxanismwn elegxoy, dialeykanqhke apo to ypoyrgeio Prostasias toy Polith, ypoqesh diafqoras deka telwniakwn ypallhlwn, poy zhmiwse shmantika to ellhniko Dhmosio epi seira etwn. Prepei na ginei antilhpto oti ayth h kybernhsh den anexetai thn asydosia kai thn paranomia apo opoy kai an ayth proerxetai. Opoy yparxoyn eyqynes, qa apodidontai. " H kybernhsh proxwra dynamika sthn ylopoihsh twn desmeysewn ths gia rizikes metarryqmiseis sto kratos. To nomosxedio gia toys metanastes apotelei proeklogikh mas desmeysh. Apotelei, omws, kai ypoxrewsh mas. Einai ypoxrewsh mas, ws dhmokratikh Politeia kai dhmokratikh koinwnia, na prostateyoyme ta paidia metanastwn poy exoyn gennhqei sth xwra mas. Einai ypoxrewsh mas na katabaloyme kaqe prospaqeia, prokeimenoy na ejasfalisoyme mia seira dikaiwmatwn gia toys nomimoys kai to tonizw- metanastes poy diabioyn sth xwra mas epi seira etwn kai apoteloyn kommati pleon ths ellhnikhs koinwnias. Einai zhthma dhmokratias, eyhmerias kai koinwnikhs synoxhs. " Kai mia anakoinwsh poy exei sxesh me to ypoyrgeio Ypodomwn kai Metaforwn: H kybernhsh, enocei twn krisimwn oikonomikwn sygkyriwn, dhlwnei oti den protiqetai na proxwrhsei se opoiadhpote ryqmish poy ojynei tis terasties dhmosionomikes dyskolies kai genna aisqhmata koinwnikwn diakrisewn kai pronomiakhs koinwnikhs h asfalistikhs metaxeirishs. Ayto apotelei mia staqerh kai atalanteyth qesh ths kybernhshs kai entassetai sta plaisia ths nomoqetikhs kai kybernhtikhs politikhs. Gia toys logoys aytoys, h kybernhsh anakoinwnei oti den protiqetai na probei sthn kyrwsh ths prajhs nomoqetikoy periexomenoy, poy ypegrafh stis 16 Septembrioy 2009, liges hmeres prin apo tis ekloges h se allh sxetikh ryqmish, gia qemata proswpikoy ths Olympiakhs. Parakalw tis erwthseis sas. XRISTOFILOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ti qa ginei me ta dikaiwmata twn ergazomenwn ths Olympiakhs, afoy den qa kyrwqei h prajh nomoqetikoy periexomenoy; PETALWTHS: H kybernhsh dhlwnei oti para to oti den qa kyrwqei ayth h prajh nomoqetikoy periexomenoy, qa ginoyn sebasta osa dikaiwmata exoyn dikaia kai qemita prokycei apo thn prajh ayth nomoqetikoy periexomenoy. PETOYRH: Qa hqela na anaferqw ston apohxo twn metrwn poy ejhggeile o Prwqypoyrgos proxqes, apo to Megaro Majimoy, kai na sas rwthsw, kata poso oi apergiakes kinhtopoihseis, oi opoies fainetai oti einai anapofeyktes, qa dysxeranoyn ayth thn prospaqeia anakamchs ths oikonomias kai an sas problhmatizei to gegonos oti sth lhch ths apofashs twn apergiakwn kinhtopoihsewn, symmetexoyn kai syndikalistes poy proskeintai sto PASOK. PETALWTHS: Emeis gnwrizoyme oti se ayth thn poly dyskolh oikonomikh sygkyria, polloi sympolites mas qigontai oikonomika apo tis apofaseis kai ta metra poy exoyme ejaggeilei. Plhn omws yparxei ena eqniko sxedio, yparxei strathgikh, yparxei taktikh. Polles apo aytes tis apofaseis qa protimoysame na mhn tis eixame parei, alla einai kai anagkh na syneisferoyme oloi, kata to metro twn dynatothtwn mas kai kyriws na syneisferoyn aytoi oi opoioi den exoyn plhrwsei, mexri twra, kai poy fysika exoyn th dynatothta na plhrwsoyn pros to ellhniko kratos tis ypoxrewseis toys. H kateyqynsh mas qa fanei kai qa ejeidikeyqei sto neo forologiko nomosxedio, alla kai sto asfalistiko, oson afora thn eisforodiafygh. Ayto poy mas endiaferei einai na prostateysoyme toys adynamoys polites kai qa to kanoyme mesa apo dikaia metra, kata to dynaton dikaia, analogika. Prospaqoyme kai einai prwth merimna mas, na mhn qigoyn oi sympolites mas me ta xamhla kai mesaia eisodhmata. H kateyqynsh exei doqei apo thn arxh ths diakybernhshs. Prospaqoyme na ejhghsoyme kai hdh h ellhnikh koinwnia, sth megalh ths pleiochfia, me thn wrimothta pleon poy diaqetei, katanoei th dyskolh qesh poy briskomaste kai synainei stis apofaseis poy exoyme parei mexri twra. Giati einai katanohto pleon oti emeis den pairnoyme metra ``mpalwmata'', eykairiaka. Kanoyme baqies allages. Synepws, opoies apofaseis einai dysmeneis gia kapoioys polites shmera, fainetai oti exoyn baqos pros thn anaptyjh, pros thn anatajh ths oikonomias. Kai to dikaio twn apofasewn mas qa fanei. Kai ekei, pragmatika, apeyqynoyme kai mia ekklhsh pros oloys toys ergazomenoys, pros oloys toys Ellhnes polites, twn opoiwn thn oikonomikh qesh katanooyme safestata se ayth th dyskolh sygkyria: Na katanohsoyme, oso to dynaton perissotero, th dyskolh qesh poy briskomaste kai na deijoyme oloi th synepeia kai thn eyqynh poy analogei ston kaqena mas. KOYTRAS: Einai dikaio, k. Ekproswpe, na mhn perikoptetai kaqoloy o proypologismos ths Boylhs; Einai dikaio na mhn perikoptontai kaqoloy ta misqologika twn politikwn ypallhlwn, ta misqologika twn stratiwtikwn kai allwn kathgoriwn, thn idia stigmh poy zhtate apo toys polites na kanoyn qysies kai milate gia dikaia metra; PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, akomh den exei chfistei o nomos gia th misqologikh politikh. Ara, den mporoyme na poyme ti perikoptetai kai ti den perikoptetai. Yparxoyn oi genikes kateyqynseis mas, akomh kai gia tis perikopes sta epidomata, opoy ejhghsame oti to 10% einai mesos oros, oti ta xamhlotera eisodhmata qa exoyn analogika mikroterh perikoph epidomatwn kai oi megalyteroi misqoi qa exoyn megalyterh perikoph. Oson afora stoys politikoys ypallhloys kai ths Boylhs kai toys stratiwtikoys, safws kai yparxei ryqmish. Kai gia tis amoibes twn boyleytwn, opoy hdh exei arxisei mia syzhthsh. Hdh yparxei kai dhlwsh toy k. Petsalnikoy, Proedroy ths Boylhs, oti aytes oi Ejetastikes Epitropes, gia tis opoies egine polys logos, den qa exoyn amoibh, opws qa yparxei kai perikoph -etsi opws exei anakoinwqei toylaxiston- twn amoibwn apo tis Epitropes genikotera. Den yparxei xwros kai xronos gia na mh symmetexei kaneis sto megalo ayto egxeirhma poy ginetai, prokeimenoy, estw kai thn teleytaia stigmh, na swsoyme thn ellhnikh oikonomia, na swsoyme th xwra mas. Hdh, ta prwta qetika shmeia ayths ths diakybernhshs fainontai, alla prepei na doylecoyme oloi me synainesh, me koinwnikh synoxh kai se baqos xronoy, etsi wste na exoyme jana mia oikonomia poy armozei sth xwra mas. MOYRELATOY: Ara, dhladh, ayth h ypoyrgikh apofash poy ejairei toys politikoys ypallhloys, den isxyei; PETALWTHS: Qa yparxei ryqmish tetoia poy na mhn adikeitai kaneis. MOYRELATOY: Mporeite na mas dieykrinisete, poia einai ayta ta dikaiwmata twn ypallhlwn ths Olympiakhs, ta opoia qa kalycete kai ta opoia yphrxan se ayth thn prajh nomoqetikoy periexomenoy thn opoia akyrwnete; PETALWTHS: Den qa kyrwsoyme, eipame, thn prajh nomoqetikoy periexomenoy, mia prajh nomoqetikoy periexomenoy poy se proeklogiko xrono, otan h apoxwroysa kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias gnwrize oti allh kybernhsh qa klhqei na katabalei ayto to dysbastaxto kostos. Den qa thn kyrwsoyme loipon, ayth thn prajh nomoqetikoy periexomenoy, h opoia exei, symfwna me to nomo, sygkekrimenh proqesmia 40 hmerwn gia na kyrwqei. Alla mexri na kyrwqei, isxyoyn oi synepeies ths, kaq` oso diasthma pernaei mexri na kyrwqei. Ara, se ayto to diasthma o,ti dikaiwmata exoyn gennhqei, qa ginoyn dekta symfwna me toys nomoys kai to Syntagma. KOYTRAS: Thn Trith to brady, o Prwqypoyrgos anakoinwse ``epwdyna, alla anagkaia metra'', opws eipate. Ta anakoinwsate kai me to blemma, opws paradexqhkate, stis agores. Omws, shmera, oi agores den fainetai na antapokrinontai se ayta ta metra kai to spread exei anebei pali. PETALWTHS: Opws gnwrizoyme kai opws diabazoyme oloi kai apo ton Typo, yparxei mia epiqesh kerdoskopias, oxi mono pros thn Ellada pleon, alla kai se alles eyrwpaikes xwres. Gia allh mia fora dhlwnoyme oti h prospaqeia poy kanoyme xreiazetai xrono gia na apodwsei. Kaneis den exei thn ceydaisqhsh oti qa ejaggeiloyme ena metro h qa paroyme mia apofash kai thn epomenh hmera qa exei lyqei to problhma me tis agores kai me kapoioys kerdoskopoys, oi opoioi ekmetalleyontai thn adynamia ths xwras mas, h opoia exei katastei me tis gnwstes politikes ths kybernhshs ths Neas Dhmokratias- adynamos krikos. Emeis, epanalambanw, doyleyoyme se baqos xronoy. H ellhnikh kybernhsh kai katanoei kai apotypwnei ta problhmata kai mesa apo meqodeymenes kinhseis prospaqoyme kai sto telos qa to kataferoyme- na bgoyme apo ayth thn krish. Parakoloyqoyme kaqhmerina tis ejelijeis ths agoras, alla kaqe pragma exei th diastash toy kai emeis, opws eipa prohgoymenws, blepoyme qetika shmeia sthn katastash ths oikonomias ths xwras mas. MOYRELATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pws ektima h kybernhsh ta osa diameifthkan xqes ston koinoboyleytiko tomea ergasias toy PASOK, oson afora to Oikonomikwn; Kai to rwtw ayto, se synarthsh kai me thn kokkinh grammh poy xaraje o Prwqypoyrgos apo to Zappeio, sthn prosfath toy synenteyjh Typoy. Einai diaforopoihseis ayta, einai parotrynseis kai kalytero apotelesma; PETALWTHS: Oloi oi boyleytes toy ellhnikoy Koinoboylioy, alla idiaitera oi boyleytes toy PASOK, exoyn thn ideologikh toys aytoteleia. Exoyn thn aytoteleia toy ws pros tis dhlwseis toys, ws pros tis skeceis toys, ws pros tis anhsyxies kai tis agwnies toys. Metaferoyn kai einai gnhsioi ekfrastes twn koinwnikwn apocewn kai protasewn kai einai epomeno na ekfrazei o kaqenas thn apoch toy. Apoceis oi opoies ekfrasthkan, omws, opws gnwrizw, mesa sto plaisio ths politikhs poy exei xarajei h kybernhsh. Kai gnwrizoyme poly kala oti oi meqodeyseis kai h politikh ths shmerinhs kybernhshs exoyn th synainesh kai twn boyleytwn -oi opoioi safws dikaioyntai na ekfrazoyn kai ypoxreoyntai na ekfrazoyn thn agwnia toys- alla kai olhs ths koinwnias poy ekfrazoyn oi boyleytes. Den yparxei kati poy na ekfeygei apo to plaisio kai tis protaseis, alla kai apo tis arxes poy xarassei h kybernhsh kai proxwraei me thn oikonomikh ths politikh. PETOYRH: Dhladh, h kybernhsh yioqetei tis anhsyxies poy ejefrase xqes h boyleyths kai prwhn ypoyrgos k. Papandreoy, sxetika me laqh poy eginan sth xarajh ths oikonomikhs politikhs, xrono poy xaqhke kai kostos poy eixe aytos o xronos, sthn ellhnikh oikonomia; PETALWTHS: H kybernhsh askei ypeyqynh oikonomikh politikh. Lambanei ypoch tis anhsyxies, tis agwnies kai tis protaseis olwn twn stelexwn toy PASOK, olwn twn boyleytwn. Alla, oi apofaseis ths kybernhshs kai malista toy idioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy, einai poly kala melethmenes, einai kinhseis oi opoies exoyn apofasistei me poly megalh skech, thn opoia ejefrase kai o Prwqypoyrgos. Lambanoyme ypoch, omws, oles tis agwnies. Kai o rolos mas, apo edw kai pera, einai -kai ayto ginetai me toys koinoboyleytikoys tomeis ergasias toy PASOK, oi opoioi synedriazoyn para poly syxna kai se ola ta epipeda- na ejhghsoyme stoys boyleytes, na akoysoyme tis protaseis twn boyleytwn. Ayto kanoyn oi armodioi ypoyrgoi se kaqe koinoboyleytiko tomea kai ayto ginetai -isws entona, toso entona gia prwth fora, to na yparxei syzhthsh kai dialogos twn armodiwn ypoyrgwn me toys koinoboyleytikoys tomeis ergasias, opoy symmetexoyn oi boyleytes toy PASOK- giati briskomaste se mia krisimh periodo, yparxoyn polles apoceis, yparxoyn polles protaseis kai yparxoyn polla qemata pros syzhthsh kai pros ejhghsh. MOSXOBAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelete na proideasete ligo gia to poio qa einai to forologika dikaio nomosxedio poy qa kataqesete; Qa einai dikaio an... Qa symperilambanontai osoi exoyn eisodhmata anw twn 2.000 eyrw; Qa klhqoyn na plhrwsoyn ena -kai poio- pososto sth forologia; PETALWTHS: Ean syzhtoysa twra leptomereies toy forologikoy nomosxedioy, afenos men qa proetrexa -giati thn epomenh ebdomada qa exoyme, pleon, kataqesh forologikoy nomosxedioy mesa apo tis gnwstes diadikasies- afeteroy qa kindyneya na eimai kai asynephs ws pros thn pragmatikothta. Giati einai nomosxedio, to opoio qa katateqei, opws eipa thn prohgoymenh ebdomada. Diamorfwnetai mexri teleytaia stigmh. Oi ajones, omws, toy nomosxedioy aytoy, sas eipa oti einai ajones me kateyqynsh thn koinwnikh dikaiosynh poy qa perna kai mesa apo to forologiko nomosxedio. Einai nomosxedio poy exei ws basikh kateyqynsh th dhmioyrgia enos staqeroy forologikoy periballontos, etsi wste kai o aplos poliths na mhn adikeitai, alla kai osoi qeloyn na ependysoyn, se ayth th dyskolh stigmh, sth xwra mas, na exoyn kai kinhtra, na yparxoyn qeseis ergasias, na eisreysei xrhma sta kratika Tameia, gia na mporesoyn na askhqoyn kai oi politikes gia tis opoies exei desmeyqei kai tis opoies qa ylopoihsei h kybernhsh. Emas den mas endiaferei na kanoyme ena forologiko nomosxedio, etsi wste na eispraxqoyn aplws kapoia xrhmata me ektaktoys tropoys, na ``mpalwsoyme'' kapoies trypes. Qeloyme na exoyme ena forologiko nomosxedio, to opoio qa dhmioyrgei ena staqero, sobaro, forologiko kai dhmosionomiko periballon. Ayth einai h kateyqynsh sthn opoia kinoymaste kai qa ejeidikeyqei mesa apo sygkekrimenes ryqmiseis. MOSXOBAS: Aplws, ean moy epitrepete, na parathrhsw oti den einai leptomereia to posoi kai poioi qa klhqoyn na plhrwsoyn. PETALWTHS: Bebaiws. Bebaiws den einai leptomereia. Aplws qa yparxei h ryqmish mesa sto forologiko nomosxedio, otan anakoinwqei. PITTARAS: Epeidh exete shkwsei poly chla ton phxh gyrw apo ta forologika. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw ean qa problepetai kai h poinh ths fylakishs gia aytoys poy den qa plhrwnoyn. PETALWTHS: As kanoyme ligh ypomonh na doyme to forologiko nomosxedio kai to ti problepetai. Einai, pantws mia anhsyxia poy exei ekfrastei kai sto parelqon kai ekfrazetai. ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes sto tajidi toy sto Neo Delxi o Prwqypoyrgos, erwthqeis gia to an qa yparjoyn kai nea metra, peran aytwn poy exoyn hdh anakoinwqei, eipe oti qa yparjoyn, apla qa apasxoloyn aytoys poy den plhrwnoyn ws twra. Shmera pali, sto idio tajidi o idios anqrwpos eipe oti einai ajiopisto to Programma Staqerothtas kai Anaptyjhs, ayto qa akoloyqhsoyme pista kai den prokeitai na lhfqoyn alla metra. Ti isxyei; PETALWTHS: Isxyei ayto poy eixame pei apo thn arxh: Exoyme kataqesei ena sobarotato Programma Staqerothtas, Anaptyjhs kai Anasygkrothshs. Ta eyshma as moy epitrapei h ekfrash thn apodoxh, dhladh, thn labame apo thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, apo to armodio Kollegio twn Epitropwn prin apo dyo hmeres. Ayto einai to programma, me bash to opoio proxwrame. Ylopoioyme tis desmeyseis mas. Kanoyme tis diorqwtikes kinhseis gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia. Kai isxyei, bebaiws, an xreiazontai kai otan xreiazontai symplhrwmatika metra, einai safes oti qa laboyme. Alla kai to forologiko nomosxedio, to opoio erxetai thn epomenh ebdomada, einai ayto poy symplhrwnei, akribws ayth thn politikh mas ws pros ta oikonomika pragmata ths xwras mas. ANTWNOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora sto asfalistiko nomosxedio parathroyme meta tis ejaggelies toy Prwqypoyrgoy mia ``anadiplwsh''. Akoysame shmera ton k. Spyropoylo na leei oti diereynatai h dieyrynsh toy asfalistikoy xronoy, xwris thn epimhkynsh toy 65 etoys ths hlikias. Pws mporei na ginei ayto to pragma; PETALWTHS: To asfalistiko nomosxedio einai se diaboyleysh me toys koinwnikoys etairoys. Einai h deyterh fash, h fash poy exei na kanei me tis domikes allages toy asfalistikoy systhmatos. Synepws, otidhpote syzhteitai ws pros ayto poy me rwthsate kai otidhpote afora stis domikes allages toy asfalistikoy systhmatos einai sto trapezi twn diapragmateysewn. Ginetai mia ejairetikh doyleia apo olo to epiteleio toy ypoyrgeioy Ergasias, opws kai apo toys koinwnikoys etairoys poy symmetexoyn, prokeimenoy na breqoyn oi kalyteres lyseis gia thn epibiwsh kai th dikaiothta toy asfalistikoy systhmatos. GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o Prwqypoyrgos apo thn India shmera den apeklise to endexomeno na qesei qema eyrwomologoy ston Sarkozi kai se alloys hgetes. Telika h kybernhsh qa prowqhsei ayto to qema sto plaisio ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs; PETALWTHS: Prwta apo ola, briskomaste se mia periodo, h opoia einai toso reysth se oikonomiko epipedo, poy den mporoyme na apokleioyme tipote, fysika mesa sto plaisio to opoio exoyme xarajei. Apo kei kai pera, emeis exoyme pei polles fores oti h Ellada einai ayth h opoia apo monh ths qa lysei to terastio problhma, to opoio antimetwpizei. Exw dhlwsei kai egw oti h koinotikh kai eyrwpaikh allhleggyh einai ena apo ta stoixeia ths domhs ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Ara, se ayto to plaisio kinoymaste. POLYMEROS: An den sas bgei se kapoies parametroys to Programma Staqerothtas kai Anaptyjhs, exete sto syrtari kapoia sxedia gia na parete epipleon diaqrwtika metra; PETALWTHS: Emas to megalo stoixhma mas einai na ylopoihsoyme to Programma Staqerothtas, Anaptyjhs kai Anasygkrothshs. An kataferoyme kai qa kataferoyme na to ylopoihsoyme me pollh kai sklhrh doyleia, den antimetwpizoyme kanena problhma. MOSXOBAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, den to hjera, alla erxomenos edw akoysa se ena radiofwniko staqmo oti exei bgei mia eidikh egkyklios, en pash periptwsei anepishma, kai exoyn epiblhqei kai kapoia prostima se astynomikoys, oi opoioi feroyn to emblhma ths ellhnikhs shmaias sth stolh toys. Epibebaiwnete oti yparxei kati tetoio kai me proypoqesh epibolhs prostimoy ycoys 100 eyrw, efoson den afaireqei to emblhma apo th stolh; PETALWTHS: Qa to diereynhsw kai qa sas apanthsw. KOYKLOYMPERHS: To nomosxedio gia to metanasteytiko katateqhke sth Boylh me shmantikes tropopoihseis. Na ypoqesoyme oti oi ekptwseis aytes poy eginan einai antallagma gia th sthrijh poy parexei h Nea Dhmokratia se kapoia metra oikonomikhs fyshs; PETALWTHS: Den yparxei kanena antallagma. Emeis to dhlwsame apo thn prwth stigmh: Bazoyme sth diaboyleysh ayto to shmantiko gia emas nomosxedio gia toys metanastes, kai fysika oi basikes arxes den exoyn allajei. Alla to eixame pei kai to ylopoioyme kai ekei fainetai poso dhmokratika leitoyrgoyme sto plaisio, pantote, ths eidikoterhs politikhs poy xarazoyme. Oses protaseis -kai htan xiliades oi protaseis poy eixame dexqei gia to nomosxedio gia toys metanastes- apo aytes htan dikaies kathyqynan se sygkekrimenes lyseis me tis ryqmiseis tis opoies eishgoyntan. Emeis tis symperilabame se ayto to nomosxedio kai sto telos exoyme thn kataqesh toy nomosxedioy, etsi opws feretai. Den yparxei qema antallaghs. Den jefygame apo tis arxes mas. Den jefygame apo tis basikes ryqmiseis, fernoyme to nomosxedio, etsi wste na exoyme ena kalytero nomoqetiko apotelesma. XRISTOFILOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, akoygetai oti sth dioikhsh ths neas anejarthths Statistikhs Yphresias, qa metexei kai stelexos ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. To epibebaiwnete; PETALWTHS: Emeis apo monoi mas eixame kanei thn protash na yparxei ekproswpos ths EUROSTAT, akribws gia na yparxei kai mia amesh diasyndesh me thn Eyrwpaikh Statistikh Yphresia. 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