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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 20 Ianoyarioy 2010

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 20 Ianoyarioy 2010

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

H kybernhsh apedeije kai xqes oti exei sxedio gia thn asfalh ejodo ths xwras apo thn krish. Sxedio endelexes, ajiopisto, to opoio paroysiazetai stoys Eyrwpaioys etairoys mas kai peiqei gia th dynatothta anaptyjhs ths xwras mas, etsi wste na mpei ek neoy sto dromo ths proodoy kai ths anaptyjhs. Me sebasmo toso stis pragmatikes anagkes ths koinwnias kai twn mikromesaiwn strwmatwn, oso kai stis proeklogikes mas desmeyseis, prowqoyme rizikes metarryqmiseis sto forologiko systhma, sto asfalistiko, alla kai allages sth domh ths dhmosias dioikhshs, me to programma ``KALLIKRATHS''.

Parallhla, lambanoyme prwtoboylies poy stoxo exoyn thn epanodo ths xwras mas sthn eyhmeria kai thn anaptyjh, me thn parallhlh diathrhsh ths koinwnikhs synoxhs, th dikaih katanomh twn barwn kai thn epanafora toy anqrwpokentrismoy sto epikentro twn politikwn mas.

Se ayth thn poreia pros thn efarmogh toy sxedioy mas, exoyme kalesei oloys, foreis kai polites -to exei kanei kai o idios o Prwqypoyrgos- se eyrytato kai diarkh dialogo. Anoixth prosklhsh se dialogo aphyqyne -kai malista xwris proypoqeseis- kai h hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs gia thn epilysh twn problhmatwn twn agrotwn, alla kai gia thn ejeyresh biwsimwn lysewn kai oxi proskairwn lysewn, opws ginotan mexri twra.

Exoyme allwste janapei oti gia mas ta problhmata twn agrotwn einai problhmata ths ellhnikhs koinwnias kai sto plaisio enos eyryteroy koinwnikoy dialogoy, mporoyme na dromologhsoyme tis lyseis poy xreiazomaste. Se ayth thn krisimh, loipon, periodo, kaloyme oloys kai kyriws toys agrotes oi opoioi briskontai sta mploka shmera, se dialogo, ypenqymizontas oti oloi eimaste ypeyqynoi gia thn anaptyjh ths xwras mas kai gia thn eikona poy dinoyme, eidika ayto to krisimo xroniko diasthma, sto ejwteriko.

Me aisqhma eyqynhs, loipon, epanalambanoyme oti einai anagkh na antapokriqoyme oloi stis apaithseis twn kairwn, oloi anejarthta apo to dikaio h mh twn aithmatwn mas. Kai na stamathsei epiteloys ayth h anastatwsh, h opoia dhmioyrgeitai kai dhmioyrgei kai asxhmes entypwseis kai eikones sto ejwteriko. Epanalambanw oti h kybernhsh epejergazetai protaseis. Kalei oloys se dialogo, o opoios qa koryfwqei stis 25 kai 26 Ianoyarioy, etsi wste epiteloys na exoyme megales allages kai biwsimes lyseis.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KOYKLOYMPERHS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, an to boylgariko diabhma sthn KOMISION, endexomenws na allajei th stash poy threite mexri shmera gia dialogo kai gia mh dynamikes parembaseis, gia to lysimo twn mplokwn.

PETALWTHS: To boylgariko diabhma sthn KOMISION einai mia katastash h opoia mas problhmatizei, giati dhmioyrgeitai kai mia sygkekrimenh eikona ths xwras sto ejwteriko. Opws eipa kai prohgoymenws, eidika aytes tis hmeres poy to oikonomiko epiteleio dinei pragmatika mia sklhrh maxh gia na apodeijei stoys etairoys mas oti den eimaste h xwra ayth poy fainetai polles fores kai paroysiazetai pros ta ejw. Apo kei kai pera, omws, emeis to agrotiko zhthma, to blepoyme se baqos xronoy. Prospaqoyme mesa apo dialogo, ston opoio epimenoyme, na broyme dikaies, biwsimes lyseis, etsi wste na stamathsei ayto to ``gaitanaki'' twn kinhtopoihsewn poy ginetai kaqe xrono kai poy polles fores den exei kai apotelesma. Eimaste yper twn megalwn, baqiwn, rizikwn allagwn kai malista, aytes den mporoyn na erqoyn, para mono mesa apo diadikasies dialogoy.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Diaprattoyn adikhma oi agrotes poy briskontai sta mploka, opws exoyn hdh apofanqei oi eisaggeleis;

PETALWTHS: Ayto einai qema Dikaiosynhs, den einai qema ths ektelestikhs kai ths nomoqetikhs ejoysias. Anagnwsa omws kai egw anakoinwsh toy eisaggelea toy Areioy Pagoy k. Tente pros toys eisaggeleis twn perifereiwn opoy yparxoyn mploka, oti qa prepei na elegxoyn kai na parembainoyn mono otan diapistwnetai sobarh parakwlysh sygkoinwniwn. Den mporoyme na anamixqoyme se qemata Dikaiosynhs. Einai safes.

POLYMEROS: Aifnidiasthke h kybernhsh apo tis kinhtopoihseis twn agrotwn; Giati ayto akoygetai to teleytaio diasthma, tis teleytaies wres.

PETALWTHS: Emeis ayto poy gnwrizoyme, apo thn prwth stigmh, einai oti oi agrotes, opws kai oles oi epaggelmatikes tajeis, exoyn sobara problhmata. Exw pei polles fores oti h agwnia twn agrotwn einai akomh megalyterh logw toy xarakthra ths ergasias toys. Ayto, omws, poy ofeiloyme na tonisoyme, einai oti apo thn prwth hmera ths diakybernhshs ths xwras, exoyme parei sygkekrimena metra, ta exoyme anaferei polles fores. Kai hdh dromologoyme amesa metra akomh kai aytes tis hmeres, etsi wste na elafrynqoyn kai se proswrino epipedo oi agrotes mas. Ekeino, omws, to opoio mas problhmatizei kai sthn kateyqynsh poy doyleyoyme, einai stis megales baqies allages, poy shmainei oti emeis den aifnidiasthkame. Ta problhmata twn agrotwn, ta gnwrizoyme kai ergazomaste pros thn epilysh toys. H hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs kanei mia ejairetikh doyleia pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. H kybernhsh sysswmh kai syllogika exei strammeno to blemma stoys agrotes, alla kai sth mh parakwlysh twn sygkoinwniwn, etsi opws prepei na yparxei -ennoeitai- se mia eynomoymenh xwra.

PAPPA: Qa hqela na rwthsw, me poio skeptiko h k. Mpatzelh den meteixe xqes sth syskech poy egine sto Megaro Majimoy, opoy syzhthqhke to qema ths armodiothtas ths;

PETALWTHS: Xqes, yphrxe sygklhsh enos diaqesmikoy organoy, to opoio exei leitoyrghsei kai palaiotera, me mia sygkekrimenh synqesh, opws einai prokaqorismenh: Kybernhsh, komma kai koinoboyleytikh omada. Oi ekproswpoi aytwn twn triwn omadwn synanthqhkan, gia na ginei enas programmatismos, opws eixe ginei kai prin apo ta Xristoygenna kai qa ginetai kata diasthmata. Den yphrxe logos na brisketai h k. Mpatzelh ekei, opws kai polloi alloi ypoyrgoi kai den syzhthqhke to agrotiko zhthma ws kyriarxo zhthma, alla htan ena apo ta zhthmata poy syzhthqhkan, se ena poly periorismeno xrono. Epeidh yparxei mia anafora tis teleytaies hmeres peri toy roloy ths politikhs hgesias toy ypoyrgeioy Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs, ginetai mia ejairetikh doyleia kai to dhlwnw kaqeta. Mia doyleia kai se epipedo Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, alla kai se eswteriko epipedo. Mia doyleia poy exei baqos xronoy kai monh prooptikh na epilyqoyn ta problhmata twn agrotwn.

QEODWROPOYLOS: O dialogos poy exete anakoinwsei oti qa jekinhsei th Deytera, sto Zappeio, qa ginei me thn PASEGES kai th GESASE;

PETALWTHS: Yparxei sygkekrimeno programma. Kaloyme oloys toys agrotes. Einai anoiktos o dialogos o opoios ginetai. Yparxoyn omades ergasias, tis exoyme anakoinwsei. H doyleia kai h syzhthsh qa ginoyn se sygkekrimenoys ajones. Einai anoiktos aytos o dialogos, omws, kai gi` ayto kaloyme kai toys agrotes na erqoyn, na parakoloyqhsoyn, na symmetexoyn, etsi wste sto telos na exoyme ena oso to dynaton kalytero apotelesma aytoy toy dialogoy, me stoxo thn ejeyresh monimwn lysewn sto agrotiko zhthma.

STRATAKHS: Epeidh oi agrotes exoyn qesei diafora zhthmata kai analoga apo thn perifereia poy kinhtopoioyntai, alla kai apo to proion poy paragoyn. Ena apo ta aithmata poy exei teqei einai h katabolh enos disekatommyrioy gia thn ikanopoihsh oikonomikwn aithmatwn. H armodia ypoyrgos eipe oti den yparxoyn ayta ta xrhmata kai malista kindyneyoyme na epistrecoyme sthn Ellada meros toy ``paketoy Xatzhgakh''. Ara, sto dialogo ton opoio kaleite toys agrotes, den qa yparxei to oikonomiko periexomeno;

PETALWTHS: Oikonomiko periexomeno yparxei, oytws h allws. Emeis, omws, ayto to oikonomiko periexomeno to exoyme hdh deijei, mesa se aytoys toys treis mhnes diakybernhshs. Ekana leptomerh anafora kai sth xqesinh kai thn proxqesinh enhmerwsh. Bebaiws, epetai kai h katabolh twn koinotikwn apozhmiwsewn mexri tis 15 Martioy, me doyleia poy exei ginei toys teleytaioys mhnes, oloklhrwnontas thn chfiopoihsh toy mhtrwoy twn agrotwn. Ara, to oikonomiko zhthma, oytws h allws, yparxei h exei epilyqei mexris enos shmeioy kai epetai kai synexeia. Ekeino to opoio einai shmantiko einai na yparxoyn qesmikes allages. Emeis den mporoyme na akoloyqhsoyme thn politikh ths Neas Dhmokratias, opoy etaze, yposxotan kai sto telos den edine: 'H otan edine, to ekane toso asymbata me thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, poy ontws shmera kindyneyoyme na katabaloyme, na epistrecoyme pisw ayta ta xrhmata poy doqhkan ws meros enos ``paketoy Xatzhgakh'', to opoio htan aproetoimasto, sto opoio den yphrxe stoxeysh. Kai briskomaste, dystyxws, se ayth th shmerinh katastash na apologoymaste, gia allh mia fora, sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

SABBOPOYLOY: Wstoso, k. Ekproswpe, para to gegonos oti den yparxei enas eniaios foreas stoys agrotes, den einai ligoi ekeinoi poy exoyn arnhqei na erqoyn sto dialogo. An den kanw laqos, einai oi agrotes ths Beroias kai kapoioi alloi sth boreia Ellada. Exete sxedio B';

PETALWTHS: To sxedio B' einai poly ths modas kai o,ti kai na poyme parejhgeitai. Emeis ws apokleistiko sxedio exoyme to dialogo, ton opoio jekinhsame kai gia to agrotiko kai thn egklhsh mas stoys agrotes na erqoyn na symmetexoyn se ayto to dialogo. Kai epeidh akoyw polla, aytes tis hmeres -dikaiologhmena, giati den ginetai dialogos me toys agrotes poy einai sta mploka- den yparxei eniaia fwnh twn agrotwn. Einai mploka kata topoys perifereiaka. Den yparxei enas eniaios foreas, ena eniaio organo, etsi wste na yparxei kai kentrikh diaboyleysh. Eimaste edw. Kaloyme se dialogo kai einai oloi eyprosdektoi. Kai ennoeitai oti qeloyme tis protaseis twn agrotwn kai th synainesh, etsi wste na yparjoyn lyseis sta problhmata toys.

GARGALAKOS: An para tis prosdokies sas k. Ekproswpe orismenes omades agrotwn, giati opws eipate den yparxei kai eniaia ekproswphsh, oyte eniaies qeseis kai eniaia aithmata, orismenes omades agrotwn synexizoyn adiallakta na katexoyn toys dromoys, na empodizoyn thn eleyqerh prosbash kai tis sygkoinwnies kai th metafora emporeymatwn. H kybernhsh ti qa kanei; Qa kalei synexws se dialogo; Ws poy fqanei h ypomonh ths kybernhshs, dhladh;

PETALWTHS: Emeis, bebaiws, apo thn prwth stigmh kaloyme toys agrotes na stamathsoyn to kleisimo twn dromwn, opoy yparxei, kai kyriws to kleisimo twn synorwn. Den mporei na einai mia eikona, h opoia tairiazei, alla kai mia pragmatikh katastash poy tairiazei sth shmerinh ellhnikh pragmatikothta. Apo ekei kai pera, eipa kai prohgoymenws, oti h koryfwsh toy dialogoy qa einai thn erxomenh Deytera kai Trith. Ara, oi agrotes exoyn akomh xrono na skefqoyn kai pisteyoyme oti qa kanoyn dekth thn prosklhsh mas. Qa katanohsoyn oti ayth h kybernhsh einai mia nea kybernhsh, h opoia feretai apofasismenh na syzhthsei, na kanei baqies allages. Qa prepei na ekmetalleyqoyn, loipon, ayth th sygkyria, etsi wste na yparjoyn lyseis pros to symferon toys.

BLABIANOS: H kybernhsh bazei xronodiagramma gia to anoigma twn dromwn kai twn synorwn;

PETALWTHS: Ayth th stigmh, oxi. Prosdokoyme oti oi agrotes qa peisqoyn kai qa adrajoyn thn eykairia gia na erqoyn sto dialogo kai na stamathsoyn tis kinhtopoihseis.

GIANNISHS: Shmera, einai Tetarth k. Ekproswpe. Ayto shmainei oti mexri kai thn erxomenh Deytera toylaxiston, oi dromoi qa einai kleistoi.

PETALWTHS: Den einai sigoyro ayto. Emeis eyelpistoyme oti oi dromoi qa anoijoyn poly pio grhgora.

KOYKLOYMPERHS: Mia apo tis protaseis poy akoysthkan xqes ston Koinoboyleytiko Tomea Ergasias Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs, einai na paei h ypoyrgos sta mploka. Yparxei endexomeno na doyme thn k. Mpatzelh sta mploka se olh thn Ellada;

PETALWTHS: Opws eipa kai prohgoymenws, den yparxei shmera eniaia ekfrash twn agrotwn poy kanoyn tis kinhtopoihseis. Ara, den exei kanena nohma kai oyte qa mporoyse na einai eikona mias ypoyrgoy Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs na perierxetai sta mploka kai na syzhtei me thn kaqe omada xwrista. Emas, mas endiaferei, opws eipa kai prohgoymenws, na exoyme mia kentrikh ekfrash gia ta problhmata twn agrotwn, panta se synergasia mazi toys. Gi` ayto toys kaloyme na erqoyn sto dialogo ayto, gia na yparjei kai ejeyresh lysewn.

PAPPA: Me sygxwreite, h k. Mpatzelh den eipe ayto xqes. H k. Mpatzelh, otan th rwthsame sxetika, to afhse anoixto.

PETALWTHS: Den apekleise to na brisketai ekei. Sas eipa, omws, oti yparxei ena praktiko zhthma. H k. Mpatzelh safws kai den to apekleise, giati to dialogo me toys agrotes se ola ta epipeda emeis den ton stamatame. Yparxei, omws, kai ena praktiko zhthma, sto me poioys agrotes qa syzhthsei, otan se kaqe kinhtopoihsh poy ginetai, yparxoyn diaforetika aithmata. Gi` ayto emeis, gia allh mia fora, leme oti mas endiaferoyn ta megala kai kentrika aithmata twn agrotwn, poy exoyn sxesh me tis megales qesmikes allages.

POLYMEROS: Eipate prin oti eyelpisteite oti qa anoijoyn poly grhgorotera oi dromoi apo th Deytera. Jerete kati perissotero apo emas;

PETALWTHS: Ayto poy gnwrizw einai oti ginetai mia poly sklhrh doyleia mesa sthn kybernhsh, etsi wste na mporesoyme na exoyme, syntoma, apotelesma. Yparxei mia synexhs diaboyleysh. Yparxei epikoinwnia me toys agrotes. Ara, yparxei kai prosdokia na stamathsei ayth h anastatwsh se poly syntomo xroniko diasthma.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Eipate oti apo ta mploka twn agrotwn fainetai to kako proswpo ths xwras. Qewrei h kybernhsh oti oi agrotikes kinhtopoihseis dysfhmizoyn th xwra sto ejwteriko;

PETALWTHS: Den milhsa gia kako proswpo.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Exw th frash sas akribws.

PETALWTHS: Ta perissotera aithmata twn agrotwn  to exw pei kai to lew polles fores, aytes tis hmeres- einai qemita. Gnwrizoyme oti oi agrotes exoyn problhma. Alla, den mporoyme na anexomaste kai mia katastash, na egkaloymeqa apo geitonikes xwres sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, giati empodizoyme symbatikes mas ypoxrewseis, mia apo tis opoies einai kai h eleyqerh diakinhsh proswpwn kai agaqwn anamesa stis xwres. Alla kai sto eswteriko ths xwras yparxoyn problhmata, otan yparxei kleisimo twn dromwn. Kai ayto nomizw oti qa prepei na tiqetai sto plaisio proaspishs toy eyryteroy dhmosioy symferontos, poy einai h mh parakwlysh ths diakinhshs proswpwn kai agaqwn.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes, meta th syskech h opoia diakophke sto Megaro Majimoy, ejerxomenos enas ek twn symmetexontwn, mas eipe oti perimenate thn apofash toy syntonistikoy twn agrotwn gia na analabete kapoia prwtoboylia apo koinoy, kybernhsh kai komma. Thn exete etoimasei ayth thn prwtoboylia h qa einai antikeimeno ths syskechs sto Ypoyrgiko;

PETALWTHS: H prwtoboylia ayth, hdh, ylopoieitai apo xqes kai einai sto plaisio ths poreias ejeyreshs lyshs kai gia to agrotiko zhthma braxyproqesma mesa apo aytes tis kinhtopoihseis, alla kai genikotera. Gi` ayto eipa prohgoymenws oti yparxoyn diaboyleyseis, ginontai synennohseis, yparxei epikoinwnia. Prospaqoyme na kleisoyme to zhthma ayto me ton kalytero tropo.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Me sygxwreite, an den kanw laqos, h prwtoboylia poy ylopoieitai einai h ekklhsh se dialogo. Kai xqes, to syntonistiko twn agrotwn apofasise na mhn erqei sto dialogo. Kapoia allh prwtoboylia;

PETALWTHS: Sas eipa oti yparxoyn prwtoboylies kybernhshs-kommatos.

SABBOPOYLOY: Toylaxiston, mporeite na mas peite pros poia kateyqynsh; Giati antilambanomaste me ayta poy mas lete oti kati etoimazete, alla den mas lete profanws ti einai ayto.

PETALWTHS: Sas eipa oti yparxei epikoinwnia kai me toys agrotes poy briskontai stis kinhtopoihseis, etsi wste na mporesoyme na fqasoyme se ena aisio telos.

SABBOPOYLOY: Kai apo thn epikoinwnia poy exete me toys agrotes, exete mhnymata qetika oti qa anoijoyn oi dromoi;

PETALWTHS: Emeis prosdokoyme oti syntoma qa yparxei lysh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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