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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 18 Ianoyarioy 2010

Ariqmos Deltioy: 246728736

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 18 Ianoyarioy 2010

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri kai kalh ebdomada.

Ws kybernhsh -exw kanei kai sxetikh dhlwsh- katadikazoyme thn ekrhjh poy egine thn Paraskeyh to brady sth Genikh Grammateia Epikoinwnias, Genikh Grammateia Enhmerwshs. Gia allh mia fora h katadikh mias tetoias energeias einai aytonohth, opws kai h ypoxrewsh twn diwktikwn arxwn oi opoioi doyleyoyn pros ayth thn kateyqynsh, na syllaboyn toys drastes kai na toys odhghsoyn sth Dikaiosynh. Einai mia anandrh, skotadistikh epiqesh me periexomeno ton politiko mhdenismo poy den ekfrazei kanenan sthn ellhnikh koinwnia. Parhlqe to symboliko diasthma twn 100 prwtwn hmerwn diakybernhshs, 100 meres apo tote poy o ellhnikos laos aneqese thn entolh sto PASOK kai apofasise na allajei selida kai poreia, afhnontas sto parelqon thn alogisth spatalh sto Dhmosio, thn adiafaneia, tis pelateiakes sxeseis kai thn anajiokratia.

H kybernhsh proxwra me synepeia stis desmeyseis ths, stis aparaithtes ekeines energeies poy qa odhghsoyn me asfaleia th xwra sthn ejodo apo thn krish, me sebasmo pantote sthn koinwnikh synoxh, aparaithtos oros kai proypoqesh. Metatrepoyme thn krish se eykairia gia th rizikh anadomhsh ths xwras oikonomika, qesmika kai dioikhtika kai thn troxodromhsh se ena asfalestero mellon gia th xwra. Pros ayth thn kateyqynsh kineitai sysswmh h kybernhsh exontas sto pleyro ths toys Ellhnes polites kai tis proodeytikes dynameis ths koinwnias, mesa apo oysiastiko kai xwris prosxhmata dialogo gia ola ta problhmata toy topoy.

Emeis, me qarros kai ypeyqynothta anoigoyme ola ta qemata, megala kai mikra zhthmata. Kai ta anoigoyme twra amesa.

To exoyme pei kai to ennooyme: Den askoyme politikh diaxeirishs. Efarmozoyme politikh rizikwn kai dikaiwn anatropwn me epikentro panta ton polith.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KOYKLOYMPERHS: Me to qema twn agrotwn ti skopeyete na kanete; Giati blepoyme oti klimakwnoyn tis kinhtopoihseis toys.

PETALWTHS: Emeis exoyme mia jekaqarh apoch thn opoia eixame ekfrasei kai prin tis ekloges kai meta tis ekloges, edw kai treis mhnes poy eimaste kybernhsh. Qewroyme oti to agrotiko zhthma kai einai h prwth fora poy onomazoyme agrotiko zhthma ta problhmata ths agrotikhs paragwghs synolika, ara kai twn agrotwn ws epaggelmatiwn kai malista to exei anadeijei se agrotiko zhthma o idios o Prwqypoyrgos. To qema twn agrotwn, den einai qema aplhs diapragmateyshs anamesa sthn Politeia kai stoys agrotes, alla einai ena qema poy afora olh thn koinwnia. Kai yp` ayth thn ennoia, m` ayto to prisma to antimetwpizoyme. Den lynetai me dimerh dialogo se sxesh me mikra zhthmata, giati ayto den einai to zhtoymeno. Apo kei kai pera, h politikh hgesia amesws meta thn analhch ths twn kaqhkontwn ths proxwrhse se anoixto dialogo me oles tis paragwgikes tajeis. Hdh omades ergasias, me entolh ths politikhs hgesias toy ypoyrgeioy Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs, epejergazontai toys oktw proteinomenoys basikoys ajones, opoy qa ginoyn oi megales diarqrwtikes allages sthn paragwgh kai sthn emporia. Stis 25 kai stis 26 Ianoyarioy sto Zappeio, koryfwnetai aytos o anoixtos, dieyrymenos dialogos, se synergasia me thn oikonomikh kai koinwnikh epitroph alla kai to ypoyrgeio Oikonomias, Antagwnistikothtas kai Naytilias, prokeimenoy na katalhjoyme se basikes politikes poy qa efarmosoyme se sxesh me to agrotiko zhthma.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mhpws telika aytes oi tomes poy qelete eseis na prowqhsete synolika gia th dieyqethsh toy agrotikoy zhthmatos stis synqhkes oikonomikhs krishs kai twn newn antilhcewn sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh ktl, den qeloyn kapoioi mesa se ola ta kommata kai mesa se olo to agrotiko systhma na proxwrhsoyn, me apotelesma na qeloyn aplws dieyqethsh kapoiwn sygkekrimenwn epimeroys zhthmatwn;

PETALWTHS: Emeis erxomaste na kanoyme rhjh. Sygkroyomaste me symferonta. Kai gnwrizoyme oti symferonta yparxoyn pantoy se oloys toys xwroys. Opws gnwrizoyme kai ti symbainei me toys syndikalistikoys, synetairistikoys xwroys twn agrotwn, opoy ekei qa prepei na janadoyme polla zhthmata. Na yparxei ejygiansh, etsi wste oloi oi agrotikoi paragwgoi, olos aytos o kyklos paragwghs mexri thn agora kai ton katanalwth, na ejygianqei kai na einai pros ofelos toy polith, pros to dhmosio symferon. Aytes einai oi megales diarqrwtikes allages oi opoies apaitoyntai na ginoyn kai qa ginoyn.

Apo kei kai pera, omws, mexri kai shmera, exoyme kanei shmantikotata bhmata, exoyme parei sygkekrimena metra gia thn elafrynsh toy baroys poy exei o Ellhnas agroths. Qa moy epitrecete na sas apariqmhsw kapoia: Proxwrhsame sthn entajh twn agrotwn sto nomosxedio gia th reystothta ths oikonomias, ryqmiseis daneiwn ``TEIRESIAS'', poy aforoyn kai stoys agrotes, sthn ayjhsh ths epistrofhs toy FPA apo 7% se 11%, sthn entajh stis ryqmiseis mesw TEMPTE, sthn ayjhsh twn syntajewn toy OGA kata 30 eyrw kai epetai, mesa sto xrono, ton Ioynio, allh epomenh ayjhsh 20 eyrw. Thn entajh sto epidoma koinwnikhs allhleggyhs, me apotelesma polloi agrotes mas na exoyn mia enisxysh toy eisodhmatos toys, twra stis giortes. Epishs, taktopoihsame xronizoyses ekkremothtes toy ELGA kai toy programmatos ``MPALTATZHS'' apo to 2004. Ayta einai liga ap` ayta poy kaname. Htan omws shmantika, kaqoristika gia thn amesh elafrynsh twn agrotwn. Oi diarqrwtikes allages qa proxwrhsoyn giati den mporei na proxwrhsei h agrotikh paragwgh, den mporei na proxwrhsei o epaggelmatias agroths ean den yparjoyn diarqrwtikes allages.

GIANNISHS: Epi toy idioy qematos. H kybernhsh pws xarakthrizei tis trexoyses kinhtopoihseis; Adikaiologhtes; Ypokinoymenes; Pws;

PETALWTHS: Den qa probw se kanenan xarakthrismo. Einai gnwsto kai to gnwrizoyme oti o Ellhnas agroths antimetwpizei megala oikonomika problhmata, opws antimetwpizoyn oloi oi Ellhnes polites se opoia epaggelmatikh tajh kai an anhkoyn. H agrotikh paragwgh, to agrotiko eisodhma exei tis idiaiterothtes toy, exei tis xronies paqogeneies. Gnwrizoyme poly kala ti ginotan tosa xronia me kapoia apospasmatika metra kai polles fores sto orio ths nomimothtas, etsi wste na dhmioyrgoyme mia ceydh katastash eyhmerias stoys Ellhnes agrotes. Emeis, omws, jekiname kai qeloyme rizikes allages kai anatropes. Ekei qa proxwrhsoyme me bash ayto ton kanona, me bash ayto to krithrio. Proxwrame kai blepoyme to agrotiko zhthma synolika. Na symplhrwsw akomh oti mexri tis 15 Martioy qa katablhqoyn oles oi koinotikes epidothseis stoys agrotes, oi opoies den exoyn katablhqei giati den exei oloklhrwqei h chfiopoihsh toy mhtrwoy twn agrotwn. Shmera eimaste ekproqesmoi. Yphrxe proqesmia mexri to 2008. Xarakthristika, na sas pw oti ton Oktwbrio toy 2009, dhladh, poly peran ths proqesmias, eixe oloklhrwqei molis to 28% ayths ths chfiopoihshs. Shmera briskomaste sto 82% kai mexri telos Ianoyarioy qa exei oloklhrwqei. Ara, mexri tis 15 Martioy, oi agrotes qa laboyn tis koinotikes epidothseis poy dikaioyntai.

MPOTWNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh omws oi agrotes lene oti ayta ta metra einai se qetikh kateyqynsh, omws, xreiazetai xronos gia na efarmostoyn kai oi dromoi einai kleistoi, h oikonomia einai opws mas thn perigrafete, se tragikh katastash kai h xwra einai kommenh sta tessera, ti qa kanete an synexistei ayto, opws ayth h eikona poy blepoyme shmera; Qa toys bgalete dia ths bias apo toys dromoys;

PETALWTHS: Qa moy epitrecete, na mhn apantame se ypoqetikes erwthseis. Emeis, ayto poy kanoyme einai doyleias oysias. Oloklhrwnoyme to dialogo. Qa anakoinwsoyme metra. Qa paroyme metra ta opoia einai qetika pros toys agrotes. Hdh, sas proanefera poso shmantika metra kai bhmata eginan molis se treis mhnes. Eimaste sigoyroi oti oi agrotes -me toys opoioys oytws h allws eimaste se epafh- qa antilhfqoyn oti to na kleinoyme toys dromoys, den einai meson agwna, alla qa yparxoyn kai oysiastika metra yper toys, etsi wste na peistoyn gia na stamathsoyn aytes oi kinhtopoihseis. Na mhn yparxei anagkh na probainoyn se tetoioy eidoys kinhtopoihseis.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate oti den einai dimerhs o dialogos metajy Politeias kai agrotwn h toylaxiston den einai ayth h lysh. Shmera apo to prwi, sta radiofwna, polloi agrotosyndikalistes zhtoyn synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Na fantastoyme me bash ayto poy eipate oti den qa exoyn ayth th synanthsh;

PETALWTHS: Nomizw oti to na milame gia synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo shmera, otan stis 25 kai 26 Ianoyarioy qa oloklhrwqei enas sygkekrimenos dialogos, anamesa sto ypoyrgeio Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs, sthn OKE, sto ypoyrgeio Oikonomias, einai akairo. Apo th stigmh poy hdh exei ginei mia doyleia mexri twra, qa perimenoyme na oloklhrwqei, etsi wste na exoyme kai sygkekrimenes anakoinwseis.

PAPPA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na rwthsw, ean ontws yphrje apeilh paraithshs ths k. Katselh kai an oxi, poy apodidei h kybernhsh ta sxetika dhmosieymata.

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei, oyte yphrje pote qema paraithshs ths k. Katselh. As mh jexname oti kai me thn ypoqesh toy limanioy toy Peiraia, ths COSCO, kykloforoysan tetoia senaria. Opws eidame, omws, yphrje lysh toy poly megaloy aytoy zhthmatos kai malista me ton kalytero tropo. Ws pros to skelos ths erwthshs sas gia to poy apodidoyme aytes tis fhmes: Einai fhmes kai senaria poy ta blepoyme kaqe mera na kataklyzoyn to xwro ths enhmerwshs. H oysia kai h pragmatikothta einai oti ginetai mia sklhrh doyleia. H k. Katselh ekane mia ejairetikh doyleia, etsi opws eprepe na ginei kai qema paraithshs ths den yphrje.

XRISTOFILOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pws sxoliazei h kybernhsh thn apoch toy arxhgoy ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, thn opoia epanelabe kai sthn omilia toy sthn ONNED, oti sth xwra yparxei akybernhsia; Fobatai h kybernhsh polwsh toy politikoy klimatos en mesw krishs;

PETALWTHS: To na milaei o arxhgos ths Neas Dhmokratias gia akybernhsia, nomizw oti einai toylaxiston paradojo. O ellhnikos laos gnwrizei ti ekane h Nea Dhmokratia otan htan kybernhsh -epilektos ypoyrgos ayths ths kybernhshs yphrje o k. Samaras- kai ti ginetai twra, se aytoys toys treis mhnes diakybernhshs ths xwras, apo to PASOK. Mia seira apo polla zhthmata, hdh exoyn lyqei. Mia seira apo basika kai megala zhthmata ths xwras dromologoyntai, me ton tropo poy anakoinwnoyme kai gnwrizoyme oloi. Ara, to na milaei gia akybernhsia o proedros ths Neas Dhmokratias einai toylaxiston paradojo kai mallon ton synephre kai ton paresyre to akroathrio sto opoio apeyqynotan. Mono etsi mporw na to ejhghsw.

GIANNISHS: Se o,ti afora sth xqesinh omilia toy k. Samara, blepoyme oti yphrje mia entonh kontra me to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn, sxetika me to qema ths iqageneias. Qewreite oti h topoqethsh toy arxhgoy ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs htan perissotero enas eligmos gia na erqei pio konta stis qeseis sas h enas tropos na katadeijei oti den prokeitai, se kamia periptwsh, na symfwnhsei me ayta ta opoia qelei na eisagagei h kybernhsh sto qema ths iqageneias;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, na pw oti o k. Samaras milhse gia germaniko montelo iqageneias, anaferontas polles anakribeies. To germaniko montelo iqageneias den exei kamia sxesh me ayta ta opoia mas eixe dhlwsei, ws apoceis toy, o k. Samaras. Ara, kai to diko mas erwthma einai ayto: Prokeitai, arage, gia allagh qesews, prokeimenoy na jefygei apo tis akraies qeseis poy eixe diatypwsei ws arxhgos ths Neas Dhmokratias h prokeitai gia mia synhqismenh diastreblwsh kai paraplhroforhsh; O k. Samaras einai ypoxrewmenos na to ejhghsei, oxi se emas, giati emeis gnwrizoyme para poly kala ti symbainei, alla stoys chfoforoys ths Neas Dhmokratias kai ston ellhniko lao, otan malista afora ena toso shmantiko zhthma.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes mia kyriakatikh efhmerida poly megalhs kykloforias, eixe ws prwtoselido thn periptwsh dyo boyleytwn, ths k. Agatsa kai toy k. Aspradakh, oi opoioi ferontan na plhrwnontai akomh apo thn ERT. Den jerw ean exete elegjei kata poso ayto stekei kai ti protiqeste na kanete.

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, na pw oti yparxoyn hdh dhlwseis kai ths ka. Agatsa kai toy k. Aspradakh, boyleytwn toy PASOK, apo tis 15 Ianoyarioy, me tis opoies zhthsan apo thn ERT na diakopei h misqodosia toys, na pagwsei dhladh h misqodosia toys, oso einai boyleytes toy ellhnikoy Koinoboylioy. Apo ekei kai pera, se aytes tis dhlwseis ejhgoyn oti eixan zhthsei th nomimothta h mh ths parallhlhs qeshs toys sthn ERT apo thn ERT, h opoia toys diabebaiwse oti den yparxei asymbibasto. Prokeimenoy, omws, na dieykolynoyn thn oikonomikh politikh ths kybernhshs kai thn antimetwpish twn megalwn oikonomikwn problhmatwn, dhlwsan oti paraitoyntai ths misqodosias toys. Na moy epitrecete omws na piastw apo ayto poy eipate kai apo ayto to zhthma. Einai ena qema to opoio lyqhke me ton tropo poy sas eipa. Kai na sas pw oti emeis, sthn ERT, kaname hdh poly megala bhmata. Se mia prwth fash me thn proswrinh dioikhsh kai se deyterh fash, strathgika, me th nea dioikhsh h opoia qa yparjei. Yphrjan, malista kai sygkekrimenes anakoinwseis.

Qa moy epitrecete na sas pw kapoia apo ayta ta bhmata:

Mphke telos stis 14 symbaseis symboylwn toy proedroy kai twn dyo entetalmenwn symboylwn toy proedroy, me amesh ejoikonomhsh 1.080.000 eyrw.

Mphke telos se oles tis symbaseis poy den eixan proion ergasias, kapoies apo tis opoies htan argomisqies, 68 symbaseis antikeimenoy, me ejoikonomhsh panw apo 2.000.000 eyrw.

Katargeitai apo ton Ioylio toy 2010 to kaqestws twn syntajioyxwn symbasioyxwn.

Katarghsame tis amoibes twn epitropwn, me ejoikonomhsh 300.000 eyrw. Zhthsame apo toys Genikoys Dieyqyntes kai dexqhkan na meiwqoyn oi apodoxes toys kata 30%, me ejoikonomhsh 350.000 eyrw.

Meiwqhkan oi apodoxes dhmosiografwn me apokleistikes symbaseis, me ejoikonomhsh 560.000 eyrw.

Edraiwqhke klimaka meiwshs twn misqwn poy jekina apo 5% kai fqanei sto 50%. Milame gia ychlomisqoys.

Meiwqhke o ariqmos twn symbasioyxwn, 250 symbaseis.

Kai proxwra h epanajiologhsh kai epanadiapragmateysh toy kostoys olwn twn ejwterikwn kai miktwn paragwgwn, poy einai poly shmantikh ejoikonomhsh.

Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws, se deyterh fash  kai malista syntoma- me th nea dioikhsh ths ERT, qa ginei enas strathgikos sxediasmos toy programmatos ths ERT. Qa ginei neo organogramma. Qa ginei nea ajiologhsh kai qa dhmosiopoioyntai oi misqoi poy apagoreyontai twra, me tropopoihsh toy sxetikoy nomoy.

PAPPA: Parola ayta, k. Ekproswpe, blepoyme na exoyn jekinhsei ek neoy ekpompes, to kase twn opoiwn einai proklhtiko.

PETALWTHS: Stis ekpompes poy jekinhsan, sas ypenqymizw oti akomh eimaste sth metabatikh periodo, to kase toys exei na kanei me ayta poy sas eipa prohgoymenws, me tis meiwseis kai ola ta ypoloipa.

SABBOPOYLOY: Diabasa sto shmerino Typo, k. Petalwth, oti o Ypoyrgos Prostasias toy Polith k. Xrysoxoidhs emfanisthke se kapoia mploka. Qa hqela na moy peite, ean isxyei ayto kai poios einai o logos o opoios ta episkefqhke.

PETALWTHS: O k. Xrysoxoidhs eixe mia apostolh, aytes tis hmeres, ws klimakio toy PASOK, sth Libadeia. Kai pernwntas, perase apo ta mploka, opws kai alloi ypoyrgoi. Kai fysika, as mhn jexname oti eimaste politikoi, oti eimaste boyleytes kai mas endiaferoyn ta problhmata twn agrotwn. Aytos kai monon htan o logos ths paroysias toy sta mploka. Den exei kamia sxesh me thn idiothta toy ws ypoyrgoy Prostasias toy Polith.

MIXAHL: Einai stis proqeseis sas na kataqesete sto dialogo gia to Asfalistiko, protash opoy qa zhtate na epiblhqei enas eidikos foros yper twn asfalistikwn Tameiwn gia na ejasfalistei se shmantiko baqmo h xrhmatodothsh.

PETALWTHS: Yparxei skech, yparxei protash ths kybernhshs, qa ejeidikeyqei omws, otan teqei sto trapezi toy dialogoy.

GIANNISHS: Sxetika me mia prohgoymenh erwthsh poy sas eteqh peri ths k. Katselh kai anaferqhkate sthn COSCO, shmera maqainoyme oti yphrxe mia syskech metajy toy k. Pagkaloy, toy k. Pampoykh, toy nomarxh kai toy dhmarxoy Peiraia kai toy k. Anwmerith, poy aforoysan sthn anaptyjh toy Peiraia. Mhpws ayth h anaptyjh syndyazetai me peraiterw idiwtikopoihseis;

PETALWTHS: Ws pros thn COSCO, qesame ta zhthmata sto swsto toys plaisio, etsi wste na tiqetai olh h symfwnia. Mia symfwnia gia thn opoia emeis eixame ekfrasei antirrhseis sto plaisio toy dhmosioy symferontos. Se ayto to plaisio qa proxwrhsoyme kai apo edw kai pera.

GIANNISHS: Rwthsa, ean yparxei skech gia peraiterw idiwtikopoihseis.

PETALWTHS: Oxi. Na meinete se ayta poy sas lew. Nomizw oti arkoyn.

MPOTWNHS: Oi allages sth forologia, poy blepoyme praktika kai poy qa isxysoyn kai apo fetos akomh kai sth symplhrwsh twn entypwn, einai pros thn kateyqynsh toy na ejorqologistei to systhma; Einai yper twn politwn h qa exoyme allh mia grafeiokratia kai allh mia talaipwria parapanw gia toys forologoymenoys polites;

PETALWTHS: Sto plaisio enos staqeroy forologikoy systhmatos, prospaqoyme na eksygxronisoyme akomh kai ton tropo ypobolhs twn forologikwn dhlwsewn. Ejalloy, as mhn jexname oti zoyme kai sthn epoxh twn hlektronikwn meswn. Ara, qa xrhsimopoihqei kaqe meso, etsi wste na aploysteyqei h ypobolh twn forologikwn dhlwsewn apo toys Ellhnes polites, alla na mporei taytoxronws na ginetai kai kalyterh epejergasia apo to kratos.

BASILOPOYLOS: Qelw na sas rwthsw, ti akribws syzhtoyse o k. Papandreoy me ton k. Samara, gia arketa lepta ths wras shmera, sto Megaro Moysikhs, mexri na jekinhsei to synedrio ths KEDKE. Kai mh moy peite oti htan mia idiwtikh synomilia, giati sigoyra oi wtakoystes qa to exoyn diarreysei mexri to brady.

PETALWTHS: Opote qa to maqoyme kai emeis. Den gnwrizw ti eipwqhke. Alla nomizw oti sto plaisio mias synanthshs twn dyo politikwn arxhgwn, toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy arxhgoy ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, ginontai syzhthseis. Kai malista, ypoqetw oti qa htan koinwnikoy periexomenoy h isws kai politikoy periexomenoy. Alla, htan mia tyxaia kai oligolepth syzhthsh.

PAPPA: To germaniko montelo, omws;

PETALWTHS: To germaniko montelo, poy omws; Sthn iqageneia h ston eklogiko nomo; Giati erizoyn.

PAPPA: Kai sta dyo.

KOYKLOYMPERHS: To teleytaio diasthma parathreitai mia ayjhsh twn epiqesewn kai ratsistikwn kroysmatwn se diafores perioxes ths Elladas. Sas anaferw, gia paradeigma, ton emprhsmo, dyo fores to teleytaio diasthma, sthn ebraikh synagwgh sta Xania, epiqesh sto Bolo sta grafeia toy syllogoy Albanwn metanastwn. An qa yparjei katadikh apo thn kybernhsh kai an qewreite oti syndeontai aytes oi epiqeseis me pieseis kyklwn meta tis allages poy anakoinwsate gia to metanasteytiko.

PETALWTHS: Safws kai h kybernhsh katadikazei tetoioy eidoys energeies. Sas eyxaristw gia thn eykairia poy moy dwsate na to dhlwsw kai gia tis dyo periptwseis poy anaferate. H ebraikh synagwgh sta Xania, poy xtyphqhke deyterh fora se syntomo xroniko diasthma, einai kai istorikhs ajias, pera apo thn allh ajia ayths ths synagwghs. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, h kybernhsh den mporei na dexqei kamia piesh, alla kai h ellhnikh koinwnia sysswmh, etsi wste na allajei tis apoceis ths, etsi wste na allajei ton tropo symperiforas stoys anqrwpoys oi opoioi den katagontai apo thn Ellada.

MPOTWNHS: H anafora toy k. Pagkaloy oti h kybernhsh paizei mia taktikh NBA, aforoyse kyriws ston k. Loberdo kai sthn k. Katselh poy ``karfwsan'' kapoies stigmes, thn politikh dhladh ths kybernhshs;

PETALWTHS: O k. Pagkalos, me to gnwsto tropo kai to xioymor poy diaqetei, den ejefrase tipote allo apo ayto poy ejefrase kai o idios o Prwqypoyrgos: Se mia kybernhsh h opoia ergazetai sklhra kai ergazetai kaqhmerina gia ta megala problhmata, einai fysiologiko na yparxoyn kai diaforetikes proseggiseis.

Sas eyxaristw.

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