Greek Government Press Briefing, 09-02-10

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 10 Febroyarioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 185210984

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 10 Febroyarioy 2009

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

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Oloklhrwqhke prin apo ligo h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh, sto Megaro Majimoy. Antikeimeno ths synedriashs htan to nomosxedio to opoio problepetai, opws gnwrizete, apo to Syntagma, gia na doqei h dynatothta na chfizoyn oi Ellhnes omogeneis ston topo opoy diamenoyn. Giati, bebaiws, dikaiwma chfoy exoyn kai oi Ellhnes yphkooi oi opoioi zoyn sto ejwteriko. H ryqmish ayth apotelei - -pera apo to oti problepetai sto Syntagma, opws sas eipa- - kai mia sygkekrimenh desmeysh toy kommatos ths Neas Dhmokratias, ths shmerinhs kybernhshs, gia thn chfish apo th Boylh toy ektelestikoy nomoy, o opoios qa ryqmizei ola ta sxetika qemata. Prohghqhke dialogos me ola ta kommata poy ekproswpoyntai sthn ellhnikh Boylh kai, opws eipe kai o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Paylopoylos, se dhlwseis poy ekane meta thn oloklhrwsh ths synedriashs ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, exei ginei epejergasia toy nomosxedioy to opoio kai qa katateqei sth Boylh. Ypenqymizw oti efoson chfistei, me thn ayjhmenh pleiochfia poy problepetai apo to Syntagma, to sxetiko nomosxedio qa efarmostei meta tis eqnikes ekloges poy qa diejaxqoyn meta thn 1/1/2011.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

RABANOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qewreite oti sthn kybernhsh yparxoyn Ypoyrgoi oi opoioi protassoyn to proswpiko toys symferon kai paramerizoyn to paratajiako symferon;

ANTWNAROS: Den antilambanomai ti qelete na peite. Egw gnwrizw oti oi Ypoyrgoi ths kybernhshs oloi mazi, syllogika, o kaqenas ston tomea ths armodiothtas toy, paragoyn ergo, paragoyn apotelesmata pros ofelos kai ths koinwnias kai twn Ellhnwn politwn.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Yparxei qema me ta melh ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ths Neas Dhmokratias poy paresthsan xqes sthn paroysiash toy biblioy toy k. Tatoylh;

ANTWNAROS: Ti einai ayta poy lete; Prokeitai gia paroysia se mia koinwnikh ekdhlwsh, opoy enas boyleyths, ena melos toy ellhnikoy Koinoboylioy paroysiase ena biblio. Ayto einai synhqes sth leitoyrgia kai sth symperifora twn boyleytwn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Efoson speysate pro oligoy na peite oti oi ekloges qa ginoyn thn 1/1/2011...

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa ayto egw. Eipa oti to nomosxedio ayto, efoson chfistei, qa teqei en isxy gia opoiesdhpote ekloges ginoyn, meta thn 1/1/2011.

PALAIOLOGOS: Wraia. Swsta, kalytera poy eipate eseis ton prologo ths erwthshs moy. Tote, poios o logos na eisaxqei shmera sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph ena tetoio nomosxedio; Den fainetai na synthrei thn eklogologia, poy eseis oi idioi ws kybernhsh apodokimazete;

ANTWNAROS: Antiqetws, sas eipa oti apotelei mia sygkekrimenh desmeysh ths kybernhshs, edw kai polla xronia, toy kommatos ths Neas Dhmokratias. Kai einai kai mia epitagh toy Syntagmatos, mia problech toy Syntagmatos, an epiqymeite - -oti prepei me sygkekrimenh diadikasia na doqei h dynatothta na chfizoyn oi Ellhnes omogeneis, ston topo poy zoyn. Na mhn erxontai sthn patrida, na mhn ypoballontai se kostos, na mh xanoyn th doyleia toys kai na mh xanoyn xrono. Ayto den exei kamia sxesh oyte me tis eyrwekloges, oyte me tis epomenes ekloges. Ayto eipa prohgoymenws. Einai safes ayto to opoio lew.

PALAIOLOGOS: H erwthsh moy einai, gia poio logo na eisaxqei twra, gia poio logo dhladh na syzhthqei twra ayto to qema...

ANTWNAROS: Dioti oloklhrwqhke h diadikasia kai h kybernhsh krinei oti to nomosxedio ayto prepei na katateqei. Sas to exw pei polles fores kai sto parelqon.

Thn hmeromhnia, de, poy sas eipa, thn 1/1/2011, thn exw anaferei se ayth thn aiqoysa dyo h treis fores, an den kanw laqos, kata ta parelqonta eth. Aplws, xreiazotan mia diaboyleysh, mia antallagh apocewn me ta alla kommata, me to SAE, dhladh me thn ekproswphsh twn Ellhnwn oi opoioi zoyn sto ejwteriko, prokeimenoy na katalhjei h kybernhsh, poy exei kai thn eyqynh ths kataqeshs twn nomosxediwn, se ena nomosxedio to opoio qa kataqesei sth Boylh.

XIDIROGLOY: Yparxei symfwnia metajy twn kommatwn gia to ti qa ginei; Giati mas eipate oti to nomosxedio qelei ayjhmenh pleiochfia. Gi` ayto rwtaw, an mporeite na mas peite dyo pragmata gi` ayto.

ANTWNAROS: Gnwrizw oti exei ginei antallagh apocewn. H kybernhsh exei ypoxrewsh na kataqesei th ryqmish thn opoia qewrei oti einai h pio wfelimh kai h pio apotelesmatikh sth Boylh pros chfish, pros epikyrwsh, me thn ayjhmenh pleiochfia h opoia problepetai apo ta Syntagma. Allwste, opws anaferetai kai sthn eishghtikh ekqesh toy k. Paylopoyloy - -milhse ep` aytoy, qa hqela na sas pw, ws synarmodia kai h Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Ntora Mpakogiannh, giati afora bebaiws toys Ellhnes poy zoyn sto ejwteriko- - alla kai sto nomosxedio, ayto kaqayto, anaferetai oti ayth qa einai mia metabatikh ryqmish. Etsi qa diapistwqei sthn prajh an einai h kalyterh, wste oi Ellhnes yphkooi poy zoyn sto ejwteriko, oi Ellhnes chfoforoi poy zoyn sto ejwteriko, na mporoyn na rixnoyn thn chfo toys sthn kalph ekei poy pragmatika zoyn.

STAQOPOYLOS: An den kanw laqos, to eixe janaferei ayto to qema h kybernhsh, prin apo peripoy ena xrono to eixe aporricei to PASOK, eixe teqei enantia se ayto. To janafernete pali. Exei allajei kati se ayto gia na symfwnhsei to PASOK;

ANTWNAROS: Den qelw na mpw se leptomereies gia oles tis diaboyleyseis kai tis syzhthseis poy eginan metajy ths kybernhshs kai twn kommatwn ta opoia ekproswpoyntai sth Boylh. Gi` aytes tis leptomereies, armodios einai o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Paylopoylos, o opoios exei diaxeiristei ypeyqyna, apo th qesh toy, ayto to qema. Qelw na pw, omws, oti den einai dynaton epeidh mia fora h dyo fores proskroyei mia prwtoboylia se ena ``oxi'' apo kapoia pleyra, na mhn ftasoyme sth Boylh. Prepei kapote na apofanqei kai h Boylh.

TSIOYFOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes rwthqhkate ean sto akyro ths katartishs twn chfodeltiwn entassetai kai h periptwsh toy k. Roysopoyloy kai dwsate thn apanthsh poy dwsate. Argotera, apo o,ti diabazw shmera, egw den thn eixa ws plhroforhsh, yphrxan dieykriniseis oti den anaferosastan sto qema toy k. Roysopoyloy. Qelete na mas dieykrinisete pws akribws einai ta pragmata;

ANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na pw gi` ayto to qema, eipwqhke xqes edw.

TSIOYFOS: Anaferqhkate telika ston k. Roysopoylo h oxi; Dhladh, h dieykrinish h opoia dinotan xqes to apogeyma...

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw: O,ti eixa na pw, eipwqhke edw xqes.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, symmerizeste h apodokimazete dhlwseis stelexwn ths Neas Dhmokratias poy prwton, proejofloyn thn htta ths Neas Dhmokratias stis ekloges kai deyteron, anoigoyn qema diadoxologias sth Nea Dhmokratia;

ANTWNAROS: Ekeino to opoio gnwrizw einai oti h Nea Dhmokratia, opws eipa kai xqes, exei mia sympagh koinoboyleytikh pleiochfia kai exei thn entolh apo thn pleiochfia twn Ellhnwn politwn, na proxwrhsei to ergo ths, na ylopoihsei tis desmeyseis ths. Kai ayto akribws kanei. Dhlwseis tis opoies eseis epikaleiste, den lew oti kakws epikaleiste h...

PALAIOLOGOS: Toy kyrioy Manwlh.

ANTWNAROS: ... h lanqasmena epikaleiste, egw den prokeitai na sxoliasw. Den sxoliazw, opws gnwrizete, dhlwseis boyleytwn kai den prokeitai na to kanw oyte kai shmera.

GKATSIOS: Eipate, bebaiws, oti den sxoliazete dhlwseis boyleytwn. Se ena allo qema, omws, xqes o boyleyths toy PASOK kai prwhn Ypoyrgos k. Pagkalos, milwntas gia thn epoxh poy htan Ypoyrgos Metaforwn, eipe gia thn Olympiakh oti eixe kataqesei ena ypomnhma kai eixe proteinei th xreokopia ths etaireias, to kleisimo kai th dhmioyrgia mias allhs etaireias. Amesws meta, eipe de - -kai edw qa hqela ena sxolio sas- - oti to klima tote den htan katallhlo, giati o Prwqypoyrgos mporei na mhn eixe pantreytei thn k. Lianh, alla zoyse me aerosynodo syndikalistria toy xwroy kai h epirroh toy xwroy tote htan ayjhmenh. To sxolio sas.

ANTWNAROS: To sxolio moy einai poly aplo. Emas, mas endiaferei mia ygihs, apotelesmatikh apokratikopoihsh ths Olympiakhs. Kai ayto epidiwketai me th diadikasia h opoia brisketai se ejelijh.

SANTAMOYRHS: Qa moy epitrecete na epanelqw sto qema ths chfoy twn apodhmwn. Otan eixan ginei oi prwtes syzhthseis, eixe yparjei kat` arxhn sygklish me to PASOK, h Aristera einai enantion. Toys teleytaioys mhnes yparxei plhrhs apoklish kai toy PASOK, ara oles oi ypoloipes politikes dynameis ektos ths Neas Dhmokratias einai enantion enos tetoioy sxedioy. Poia skopimothta yphretei h kataqesh toy sth Boylh yp` aytes tis synqhkes;

ANTWNAROS: Sas ejhghsa prin apo ligo. Menw se ayta poy exw pei. Den exw na pw kati parapanw.

STAQOPOYLOS: To qema ths Olympiakhs syzhthqhke shmera sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph;

ANTWNAROS: Ekane mia syntomh enhmerwsh o Ypoyrgos, o opoios diaxeirizetai to qema, opws gnwrizete, kat' entolh ths Diypoyrgikhs Epitrophs, o k. Xatzhdakhs, o opoios einai kai melos ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Epanerxomai sto qema poy eqese o k. Palaiologos, me diaforetiko tropo kai lew to ejhs: O Prwqypoyrgos, o k. Karamanlhs einai enas neos anqrwpos. H kybernhsh eixe doyleia mprosta ths kai paragetai to ergo poy paragetai. Giati exoyn toso agxos kapoioi paragontes, kapoioi foreis toy dhmosioy dialogoy na dhmioyrgoyn blocks mesa sth Nea Dhmokratia. Qelw na pw oti thn parembash toy k. Manwlh mporei na mhn th sxoliazete, alla htan poly xontrokommenh. Dhladh, poios eqese qema block ths k. Mpakogiannh gia na bgei o k. Manwlhs na milhsei gia block anti ths k. Mpakogiannh.

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai se kamia periptwsh na syzhthsw topoqethseis boyleytwn.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Nai, alla den bohqaei to dhmosio dialogo to onoma ths (den akoygetai), to bohqaei ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Menw se ayto to opoio sas eipa.

FOYRLHS: Epeidh kat epanalhch exete epirricei sto PASOK thn eyqynh oti kalliergei systhmatika thn eklogologia, hqela na sas rwthsw ean qewreite oti eftase h stigmh na ypenqymisete h na apeyqynete analogo mhnyma kai stoys boyleytes toy kommatos toy dikoy sas.

ANTWNAROS: Exw apanthsei se ola ayta. Eseis epanerxeste. Eipa, xqes, proxqes, thn perasmenh ebdomada -- jekaqara pragmata- - oti h kybernhsh einai afosiwmenh, einai prosanatolismenh, einai proshlwmenh sthn ylopoihsh twn desmeysewn ths, sthn paragwgh ergoy pros ofelos ths koinwnias kai twn Ellhnwn politwn. Ayto einai safes apo ola ayta ta opoia ginontai. Kai h ellhnikh koinwnia ta katagrafei.

STAQOPOYLOS: Yparxei ena problhma me toys noshleytes, oi opoioi synexizoyn kai dhmioyrgoyntai problhmata sta nosokomeia. Exete kapoio sxolio gia ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete, yparxei mia ryqmish se ejelijh. Qa topoqethqoyn sth syzhthsh, h opoia qa ginei sth Boylh, oi armodioi Ypoyrgoi kai Yfypoyrgoi.

PALAIOLOGOS: Egw omws qa epanelqw sto qema poy eqesa me ton k. Manwlh kai qa rwthsw: Oi dhlwseis toy k. Manwlh den einai dixastikes gia ena komma, opws einai h Nea Dhmokratia, poy einai sthn kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: H Nea Dhmokratia diaqetei sympagh koinoboyleytikh pleiochfia. Apanthsa prohgoymenws se mia apo tis prwtes erwthseis poy moy eginan.

PALAIOLOGOS: Oi boyleytes to gnwrizoyn ayto, opws o k. Manwlhs;

ANTWNAROS: H Nea Dhmokratia, kai ayto fainetai sth prajh, diaqetei sympagh koinoboyleytikh pleiochfia.

SANTAMOYRHS: H safhs koinoboyleytikh pleiochfia ejartatai mono apo ton ariqmo twn boyleytwn h exei na kanei kai me mia koinwnikh nomimopoihsh, h opoia mporei na katagrafetai stis dhmoskophseis;

ANTWNAROS: Jerete, oi kybernhseis krinontai oysiastika kai me tropo poy fernei apotelesma sth diakybernhsh ths xwras, otan oi Ellhnes polites ftasoyn stis kalpes. Ayth einai h oysiastikh krish.

Sas eyxaristw.

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