Greek Government Press Briefing, 09-01-14

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 14 Ianoyarioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 180533705

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 14 Ianoyarioy 2009

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Synedriase, opws gnwrizete, shmera, h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, ypo ton Prwqypoyrgo k. Kwsta Karamanlh. Kata th diarkeia ths synedriashs, syzhthqhkan kyriws qemata - -lew ``kyriws'', dioti qa sas ejhghsw- - toy Ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn poy exoyn sxesh me th diakybernhsh kai ton eksygxronismo ths diakybernhshs. Kata thn ejodo toys apo to Megaro Majimoy, opws exete plhroforhqei, ekanan dhlwseis afenos o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Prokophs Paylopoylos kai afeteroy o Ypoyrgos Anaptyjhs k. Kwsths Xatzhdakhs. Kai gi` ayto sas eipa oti orismena apo ayta ta qemata, opws anefere allwste kai o k. Xatzhdakhs, einai kai armodiothtas h synarmodiothtas toy Ypoyrgeioy Anaptyjhs. Parapempw se aytes tis dhlwseis.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh einai se ejelijh olh ayth h istoria, h ypoqesh ths apagwghs toy en logw epixeirhmatia, h kybernhsh exei th sigoyrh pepoiqhsh oti se ayth thn istoria den yparxei mia aisqhsh tromokratias;

ANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na pw gi` ayto to qema, to exw pei. Ayth th stigmh, opws gnwrizete, oi diwktikes Arxes kanoyn th doyleia toys. Den exw na prosqesw kati stis epishmes anakoinwseis, tis opoies exei kanei o ekproswpos ths Ellhnikhs Astynomias. Epanalambanw, gia mia akomh fora, oti to prwteyon einai na teqei ena terma sthn peripeteia enos synanqrwpoy mas, enos sympolith mas, o opoios, opws gnwrizete, exei kai shmantika problhmata ygeias.

STAQOPOYLOS: Egine enhmerwsh kaqoloy, syzhthqhke to qema ayto sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph, an egine kapoioy eidoys enhmerwsh...

ANTWNAROS: Kamia enhmerwsh den egine. Sas eipa poio htan to antikeimeno ths syzhthshs.

KAKALHS: O k. Xatzhdakhs, ejerxomenos ths synedriashs, dhlwse oti ``qeloyme na kanoyme pio eykolh th zwh twn epixeirhsewn''. Ayto einai to kainoyrgio shma katateqen ths filolaikhs strofhs poy ypotiqetai oti kanei h kybernhsh meta ton anasxhmatismo, na kanei akomh pio eykolh th zwh twn epixeirhsewn; Th zwh twn ergazomenwn pote qa thn kanei pio eykolh;

ANTWNAROS: Oi epixeirhseis stis opoies anaferqhke o k. Xatzhdakhs kai gia tis opoies egine kai syzhthsh sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph, einai oi mikres kai mesaies epixeirhseis. Epixeirhseis tis opoies exoyn sthsei ekatontades xiliades Ellhnwn, epixeirhseis apo tis opoies zoyn ekatontades, an oxi ekatommyria, ellhnikwn oikogeneiwn. Kai ekeino to opoio metraei ayth th stigmh - -qa ginoyn kai analytikoteres anakoinwseis panw se ayto to qema- - einai akribws o tropos idryshs alla kai leitoyrgias aytwn twn epixeirhsewn - -poy apoteloyn, opws exw pei kai alles fores, th raxokokalia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias- - na ginei pio aplos, na mh xreiazontai polla dikaiologhtika. Hdh exoyn ginei polla pragmata kai prepei mesa se ayto to plaisio, to opoio periegracan kai o k. Paylopoylos kai o k. Xatzhdakhs, na ginoyn kai alla. Ayto akribws einai to qema to opoio syzhthqhke. Allwste, kai o k. Paylopoylos sthn topoqethsh thn opoia ekane, milhse akribws gia tis Etaireies Periorismenhs Eyqynhs. Einai aytes oi mikres kai mesaies epixeirhseis.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, epeidh anaferqhkate stis mikromesaies epixeirhseis, mporeite na mas peite an isxyoyn ta stoixeia oti sto programma TEMPME gia th xrhmatodothsh twn mikromesaiwn epixeirhsewn, exoyn ypoblhqei 50.000 aithseis kai exoyn ginei mono 250 egkriseis;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs...

KAKALHS: Eseis agnoeite ta panta;

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw ta sygkekrimena stoixeia kai den jerw apo poy antleite tis plhrofories sas, xwris na amfisbhtw thn egkyrothta twn plhroforiwn kanenos apo osoys paristantai se ayth thn aiqoysa.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, alla einai ena qema meizon ths epikairothtas, grafetai se olo ton Typo kai yparxoyn apo sygkekrimeno komma kataggelies kai den mporeite na apanthsete se ayto to qema sygkekrimena... ;

ANTWNAROS: Qa prospaqhsw na enhmerwqw, alla kalytera na apeyqynqeite apeyqeias sto armodio Ypoyrgeio. Nomizw oti einai to Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs kai endexomenws exei kai mia synarmodiothta to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias. Eimai bebaios oti qa sas dwsoyn ta stoixeia. Ayta ta stoixeia den apoteloyn eptasfragisto kratiko mystiko.

STAQOPOYLOS: Me aformh th xqesinh thlefwnikh epikoinwnia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Poytin, exoyme kapoio neotero gyrw apo to fysiko aerio, me ta ellhnika noikokyria, an yparxoyn apoqemata; Yparxei kapoioy eidoys anhsyxia;

ANTWNAROS: Ekane proxqes mia synolikh topoqethsh me polla stoixeia o Ypoyrgos Anaptyjhs. Htan mia syntomh synenteyjh Typoy, thn opoia edwse o k. Xatzhdakhs, meta to ektakto Symboylio Ypoyrgwn Energeias. Ola ta stoixeia poy moy zhtate, perilambanontai se aytes tis anakoinwseis. Den exoyme kamia ejelijh sto sygkekrimeno zhthma to opoio exei prokycei. Menw sth xqesinh anakoinwsh, sxetika me thn thlefwnikh synomilia poy eixe o Prwqypoyrgos me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Rwsikhs Omospondias k. Blantimir Poytin. Kai sas eipa oti ekeino to opoio proexei gia mas einai na ejeyreqei mia oristikh lysh sto zhthma to opoio exei prokycei, oxi mono se mas, bebaiws, sthn Ellada, alla kai stis perissoteres xwres toy eyrwpaikoy xwroy.

KAKALHS: Alhqeyei h plhroforia oti o Rwsos Prwqypoyrgos zhthse apo ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo se thlefwnikh synomilia na paijei diamesolabhtiko rolo pros toys Eyrwpaioys gia to qema ayto toy fysikoy aerioy;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw tipote perissotero, peran aytwn poy eipa.

KAKALHS: Den to diaceydete, oyte to epibebaiwnete.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw kati allo.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, to teleytaio diasthma plhqainoyn oi boyleytes poy bazoyn sto stoxastro toys, ths Neas Dhmokratias gia na to dieykrinisw, ta legomena ``golden boys'', toys epikefalhs twn dioikhsewn twn DEKO. Xqes malista, o koinoboyleytikos ekproswpos k. Panagiwtopoylos ejerragh, qa legame, sth Boylh kataferomenos enantion toy k. Aqanasopoyloy. Ti ginetai; Yparxoyn dyo glwsses mesa sth Nea Dhmokratia;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kapoio sxolio gia qemata poy qigoyn oi boyleytes. Sas to exw pei kai alles fores. Otan exw otidhpote gia qemata poy exoyn sxesh me dioikhseis DEKO h Organismwn, qa to plhroforhqeite, an einai ths dikhs moy armodiothtas.

KAKALHS: Qewreite abasimo kai adikaiologhto to klima eklogwn poy kyriarxei shmera sta prwtoselida twn efhmeridwn;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa xqes me jekaqaro tropo. Opoioi prospaqoyn na dhmioyrghsoyn eklogiko h proeklogiko klima, den exoyn kamia bash gia na to kanoyn. Kai aytoi poy dhmioyrgoyn h prospaqoyn na dhmioyrghsoyn ena tetoio klima, den einai h kybernhsh. Den einai h pleyra ths kybernhshs, den einai oyte oi Ypoyrgoi, oyte oi Yfypoyrgoi. Alloi einai poy prospaqoyn na kallierghsoyn tetoio klima gia na apoprosanatolisoyn apo ta dika toys politika adiejoda.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite tote. Ep` aytoy. An den einai Ypoyrgoi, tote ti shmainei h dhlwsh toy Ypoyrgoy Paideias oti jekinaei dialogos gia thn Paideia apo mhdenikh bash; Dhladh, o nomos poy eixe chfistei den qa efarmostei, gia paradeigma; Ti shmainei ayto to pragma;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Sphliwtopoylos ekane sygkekrimenh dhlwsh gia sygkekrimeno qema sto xwro ths Paideias. Anaferqhke sto Lykeio kai anaferqhke ston tropo eisagwghs sta panepisthmia, kati to opoio eixame pei kai prin apo liges ebdomades. Den einai kati kainoyrgio. Na parete olh th dhlwsh toy k. Sphliwtopoyloy kai na mhn apomonwnete stoixeia. Qa ginei, loipon, aytos o dialogos ton opoion eixame proanaggeilei. To epibebaiwse xqes, me jekaqaro tropo kai pera apo opoiadhpote amfisbhthsh o Ypoyrgos Paideias k. Arhs Sphliwtopoylos. Eipe oti aytos o dialogos qa einai anoixtos. Oloi kaloyntai na kataqesoyn tis apoceis toys.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw na rwthsw pote ypologizete na oloklhrwqei h ypoqesh ths Olympiakhs kai panw se ayto to qema, an alhqeyei h plhroforia oti thn ypoqesh ejakoloyqei na xeirizetai o k. Xatzhdakhs kai oxi o neos Ypoyrgos Metaforwn.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw tipote na pw gia to qema ths Olympiakhs.

FANIDHS: Oyte gia to an to xeirizetai o k. Xatzhdakhs;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw tipote gia to qema ths Olympiakhs. Opws antilambaneste, o k. Xatzhdakhs exei mia sysswreymenh gnwsh kai empeiria gia to sygkekrimeno qema, alla armodios gia ayto to qema - -einai apolytws fysiko- - einai o neos Ypoyrgos.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ep' aytoy an kai eipate oti den milate gia to qema ths Olympiakhs. Wstoso, omws xqes, kapoio dhmosieyma, nomizw, ths efhmeridas ``TA NEA'', epikalesthke dhlwsh toy ekproswpoy ths QATAR AIRWAYS, poy eipe oti pote den yphrje endiaferon apo th sygkekrimenh etairia gia thn agora tmhmatos ths Olympiakhs.

ANTWNAROS: Qa sas parapemcw stis dhlwseis poy eixe kanei, isws, to armodiotero proswpo apo thn pleyra ths filhs xwras toy Katar, o Prwqypoyrgos ths, kata thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy ekei.

STAQOPOYLOS: To PASOK qa kataqesei proanakritikh epitroph sthn systash proanakritikhs epitrophs gia thn ypoqesh toy Batopaidioy. Exete kapoio sxolio;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio kai den kanw sxolia gia proqeseis prajewn. Th gnwmh mas, th qesh mas gia to qema ths proanakritikhs epitrophs, th gnwrizete. Alla opws sas eipa, den sxoliazw proqeseis h proanaggelies h diarroes gia mia prajh h opoia kapoioi lene oti qa ginei sto mellon.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gia ayto to qema, epeidh oi plhrofories aytes toylaxiston apo thn pleyra twn synadelfwn poy kalyptoyn to PASOK, einai basimes oti den afora mono proqeseis, alla peran aytoy esas sas anhsyxei kaqoloy to endexomeno na yperchfistei h protash ths proanakritikhs kai apo boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias, idiws apo dysaresthmenoys boyleytes;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa, proqeseis den sxoliazw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kai twn boyleytwn ths Neas Dhmokratias;

ANTWNAROS: Den ennow ayto. Kai gnwrizete para poly kala ti ennow. Otidhpote legetai oti qa ginei, den payei na einai proqesh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh eipate prin gia tis ekloges, oti den qetei h kybernhsh to qema twn eklogwn, alla h pleyra toy PASOK. Wstoso blepw oti...

ANTWNAROS: Egw eipa oti kapoioi alloi...

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, o k. Zagoriths, omws xqes, se radiofwnikes toy dhlwseis, tis xrewne eyqews sta stelexh toy PASOK kai malista onomastika. Ston k. Reppa, ston k. Pagkalo kai ston k. Papakwnstantinoy. Wstoso yparxei mia enstash oti to PASOK den prokeitai na synainesei sto proswpo toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias kata thn proedrikh eklogh kai epidiwkei ekloges prin apo ayth. Poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Para poly aplh. Einai allo ena deigma ths gnwsths stashs toy PASOK, oti paizei synexeia me toys qesmoys.

Sas eyxaristw.

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