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Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-11-17

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 17 Noembrioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 170326430

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 17 Noembrioy 2008

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

" Oles oi Ellhnides kai oloi oi Ellhnes, oles oi politikes dynameis toy topoy, timoyme shmera thn 35h epeteio apo thn ejegersh twn foithtwn sto Polytexneio. Timoyme th mnhmh twn epwnymwn kai anwnymwn agwnistwn poy orqwsan to anasthma toys sth diktatoria, diekdikwntas eleyqeria, dikaiosynh kai ajioprepeia. Opws epitassei to pneyma ayths ths megalhs epeteioy, epanabebaiwnoyme thn koinh mas desmeysh na agwnizomaste me pneyma enothtas kai synaineshs gia th synexh embaqynsh kai qwrakish ths Dhmokratias mas, gia thn empedwsh enos neoy politikoy politismoy, gia th diasfalish se kaqe nea kai se kaqe neo perissoterwn eykairiwn gia ekpaideysh, apasxolhsh kai prokoph.

" Ayrio, Trith 18 Noembrioy, stis 11.00, qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, sto Megaro Majimoy, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh. Gia to qema qa enhmerwqeite argotera. Stis 14.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei sto Megaro Majimoy, me ton Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths Saoydikhs Arabias.

" H Epitroph Symmorfwshs toy OHE apofasise omofwna stis 13 Noembrioy 2008, oti h Ellada exei oles tis proypoqeseis gia th symmetoxh ths stoys eyeliktoys mhxanismoys toy Prwtokolloy toy Kioto. Analytikotera, sthn apofash ths, h Epitroph toy OHE, metajy twn allwn, epishmainei oti:

Prwton, h Ellada exei tis aparaithtes qesmikes, dioikhtikes kai organwtikes ryqmiseis, wste to eqniko systhma apografwn twn aeriwn toy qermokhpioy na brisketai se plhrh leitoyrgia.

Deyteron, oi ekqeseis gia tis teleytaies apografes twn ekpompwn poy kateqese h Ellada, se efarmogh toy neoy systhmatos, einai safws beltiwmenes, se sxesh me aytes twn palaioterwn etwn. H apofash ayth toy Organismoy Hnwmenwn Eqnwn dikaiwnei plhrws tis qeseis poy diatypwse to Ypoyrgeio Periballontos, Xwrotajias kai Dhmosiwn Ergwn apo thn prwth stigmh poy anekyce to qema ths apofashs toy OHE, ton Aprilio toy 2008. Sygkekrimena tote eixame yposthrijei oti: Prwton, einai apolytws ceydes kai sykofantiko oti h Ellada apoblhqhke apo to Prwtokollo toy Kioto. Malista, eixame epishmanei oti aytos o isxyrismos ekqetei th xwra. Deyteron, to qema qa taktopoihqei meta thn episkech twn empeirognwmonwn toy OHE sthn Ellada, to Septembrio, dhladh, prin apo dyo mhnes kai den qa exei kamia praktikh epiptwsh gia thn Ellada kai idiaitera stis biomhxanies poy symmetexoyn sto systhma emporias rypwn. Kai triton, to problhma kyriws anekyce apo ta lanqasmena stoixeia poy edwse h Ellada to 1995 ston OHE, gia to etos bashs 1990 kai tis aparadektes kataggelies toy tote ypeyqynoy gia tis apografes, enantion ths xwras toy.

H xwra mas brisketai sthn prwtoporia twn eyrwpaikwn kratwn gia thn klimatikh allagh kai antapokrinetai plhrws stis ypoxrewseis ths poy aporreoyn apo to Prwtokollo toy Kioto. Symfwna me thn ethsia Ekqesh toy Eyrwpaikoy Organismoy Periballontos, poy dhmosieyqhke stis 16 Oktwbrioy 2008, dhladh, prin apo akribws ena mhna: Prwton, h Ellada perilambanetai metajy twn molis tessarwn xwrwn poy briskontai hdh mesa sto stoxo toy Kioto. Oi alles xwres einai h Gallia, h Soyhdia kai to Hnwmeno Basileio apo thn Eyrwph. Deyteron, h Ellada perilambanetai mesa stis tesseris xwres poy qa petyxoyn to stoxo toy Kioto mexri to 2012, me to programma poy efarmozoyn, xwris na laboyn prosqeta metra. Oi alles xwres einai h Germania, h Soyhdia kai to Hnwmeno Basileio.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, to arnhtiko klima gia thn kybernhsh den allazei kai kaqe nea dhmoskophsh poy blepei to fws ths dhmosiothtas, prosqetei kai nea pososta sth diafora me to PASOK. Oi boyleytes toy kommatos deixnoyn apogohteymenoi, kaqws blepoyn oti o Prwqypoyrgos den kanei thn endedeigmenh gi` aytoys kinhsh toy anasxhmatismoy, mhpws kai diorqwqei h katastash. Erwtw, loipon: Einai ikanopoihmenos o Kwstas Karamanlhs apo oloys toys Ypoyrgoys kai Yfypoyrgoys toy, otan oi idioi oi boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias, me prosfates dhlwseis toys, ejakoloyqoyn na yposthrizoyn oti prepei amesa na allajoyn proswpa kai politikh sthn kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Exw topoqethqei epaneilhmmenws gia to qema toy anasxhmatismoy. Den exw na pw kati kainoyrgio.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, poso shmantikes qewrei h kybernhsh tis epifylajeis poy ekfrazei h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh gia to sxedio twn trapezwn; Yparxoyn dhmosieymata poy anaferoyn oti exoyn hdh ekfrastei shmantikes epifylajeis apo thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph kai anarwtiemai, an ayto dhmioyrgei problhma gia na katastei anenergo ena sxedio poy den exei kan akomh chfistei apo th Boylh.

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei kati tetoio sthn ektash poy to paroysiazoyn dhmosieymata, ta opoia epikaleiste. Yparxoyn orismenes texnikes parathrhseis oi opoies ginontai se ola ta sxedia poy ypoballei kaqe mia xwra ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs xwrista. Briskomaste, hdh, sto shmeio ths oloklhrwshs. Poly syntoma qa erqei to sxedio sth Boylh pros kyrwsh, opws sas exw pei. Synepws, den yparxei kanenas logos gia diatypwsh opoiasdhpote morfhs kindynologias, opws kanoyn kapoia dhmosieymata.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelete na moy ejhghsete to synqhma, to opoio xrhsimopoihse kai o k. Meimarakhs to Sabbatokyriako ``Nea nikh ths Neas Dhmokratias, me ton Karamanlh sthn hgesia''; Kat` arxhn, pame se prowres ekloges; Kai deyteron, yparxei qema na mhn hghqei o k. Karamanlhs;

ANTWNAROS: Den blepw kati tetoio. Giati katalhgete se symperasmata ta opoia bgazete apo mia aytonohth ekfrash thn opoia eipe o k. Meimarakhs; Exoyme topoqethqei polles fores gi` ayto to qema. Den yparxei kati kainoyrgio. Sas eipa kai thn perasmenh Paraskeyh - -an den kanw laqos- - oti h kybernhsh exei eklegei gia tessera xronia kai exei proqesh na meinei sth qesh ths kai na kanei prajh ola osa exei pei kai ola gia ta opoia exei desmeyqei enanti toy ellhnikoy laoy. Ola ta alla, loipon, oles oi alles syzhthseis peri prowrwn eklogwn, einai aney antikeimenoy.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kai o Prwqypoyrgos...

ANTWNAROS: Fysika.

KAPRALOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw na perasoyme se ena allo qema kai qelw na rwthsw, pws skopeyei na antidrasei h kybernhtikh paratajh, meta tis prosfates ejelijeis sto sirial poy diadramatizetai me thn k. Swthropoyloy kai ta erwthmatika poy egeirontai pleon, meta thn teleytaia apokalych me to binteo poy empleketai kai o syzygos ths. Qa zhthsei h Nea Dhmokratia thn epanejetash ths martyros sth Boylh, sthn Ejetastikh Epitroph;

ANTWNAROS: Ayto to opoio rwtate, afora th leitoyrgia toy Koinoboylioy kai th leitoyrgia ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs. Na prosqesw, omws, to ejhs: Twra poy me sobarothta kai ypeyqynothta diereynatai h ypoqesh toy Batopaidioy kai apo th Dikaiosynh kai apo thn Ejetastikh Epitroph, erxontai mera me th mera sto fws stoixeia poy apokalyptoyn osoys exoyn ws monadiko stoxo na plhjoyn meqodeymena thn kybernhsh. Kapoioi poy droyn sto paraskhnio, kaqodhgoyn periergoys martyres kai atoma me ypopth symperifora, epixeirwntas etsi na paijoyn paixnidia sthn plath toy ellhnikoy laoy. Einai synenoxoi osoi toys parexoyn politikh kalych, fanera, siwphra h me thn anoxh toys. Mataioponoyn. Den prokeitai na ta kataferoyn.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: To PASOK exei zhthsei kat` antiparastash ejetash toy k. Cwmiadh kai ths k. Swthropoyloy. Eseis qa apodexqeite ayth thn protash toy PASOK;

ANTWNAROS: Eipa kai prohgoymenws, se erwthsh toy k. Kapraloy, oti ayto afora th leitoyrgia ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs. Egw den eimai melos ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs gia na ekferw gnwmh ep` aytoy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Syndyazw th dikh sas, twra, topoqethsh gia to qema ths Ejetastikhs gia to Batopaidi me th dhlwsh poy ekane prwqystera o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Paylopoylos, o opoios fwtografise sygkekrimenes politikes dynameis poy leei oti anakalyptoyn ceydomartyres. Mporeite na mas peite kai eseis; Gia sas einai politikoi synenoxoi. Poies politikes dynameis einai ekeines poy anakalyptoyn ceydomartyres h einai synenoxoi eite dia ths siwphs eite dia ths anakalychs atomwn poy droyn sto paraskhnio.

ANTWNAROS: Koitajte na deite poioi kalesan sygkekrimenoys martyres kai poioi prospaqhsan na dhmioyrghsoyn entypwseis kai klima. Qa bgalete asfalws ta symperasmata sas.

TERZHS: Me dedomeno oti synhqws den sxoliazete ta tektainomena sthn Ejetastikh Epitroph, epikaloymenos thn koinoboyleytikh diadikasia, alla mia kai mphkate ston peirasmo, plhn toy binteo se baros ths k. Swthropoyloy, mporeite na mas qymisete kapoio allo stoixeio, to opoio kata thn apoch sas elafrynei th qesh ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati allo peran twn oswn eipa.

KAKALHS: Qewreite dhladh oti ena binteo proion ypoklophs einai adiaseisto stoixeio poy dikaiwnei malista kai thn kybernhsh kai gi` ayto prospaqeite na to ekmetalleyqeite; H prwth erwthsh. Kai sto politiko skelos, pisteyete dhladh oti ena binteo apo anqrwpoys ths nyxtas mporei na dhmioyrghsei isxyra peisthria gia thn aqwothta ths kybernhshs synolika sthn ypoqesh;

ANTWNAROS: Egw anaferqhka se stoixeia.

KAKALHS: Ayto to dexeste san stoixeio;

ANTWNAROS: Egw anaferqhka se stoixeia. Menw se ayto.

GALIATSATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h ellhnikh kybernhsh analambanei thn proedria toy OASE. Protiqetai na sygkalesei Synodo Koryfhs sthn opoia qa parabreqoyn o Amerikanos Proedros Ompama kai o Rwsos Proedros Mentbentef;

ANTWNAROS: Sto qema ayto anaferqhke thn perasmenh Pempth, an den kanw laqos, h k. Mpakogiannh h opoia paroysiase tis qeseis kai tis protaseis ths ellhnikhs Proedrias, milwntas se ekdhlwsh poy egine me ayth thn aformh. Ola ayta ta opoia moy anaferate einai gia thn wra poly prowra. Yparxei, opws gnwrizete, ton allo mhna mia Ypoyrgikh Synodos toy OASE ypo th finladikh Proedria h opoia diarkei mexri tis 31 Dekembrioy fetos. H Synodos ayth qa ginei sto Elsinki kai endexetai ayth na apofasisei kai th dienergeia Synodoy Koryfhs. Ayth th stigmh h ellhnikh kybernhsh den krinei skopimo na kanei kamia problech panw se ayto to qema. Sas diabebaiw oti an lhfqei mia sxetikh apofash qa katablhqoyn oles oi prospaqeies oi opoies apaitoyntai, prokeimenoy na metasxoyn oi arxhgoi kratwn kai kybernhsewn. Epanalambanw, omws, oti ola ayta isxyoyn me thn proypoqesh oti qa apofasistei h diejagwgh mias tetoias Synodoy Koryfhs, h opoia den exei apofasistei.

KAKALHS: Sto nomosxedio gia tis trapezes. Sto sxedio sthrijhs twn trapezwn h ths oikonomias opws lete. O k. Kwstopoylos milwntas sthn Kyriakatikh KAQHMERINH, eipe oti den qa allaze tipota apo to yparxon sxedio nomoy poy exei chfisei h kybernhsh. Ayto den apotelei mia peritranh apodeijh h oti grafthke to nomosxedio dia xeiros trapezwn h oti h kybernhsh frontise na kalycei sto epakro ta symferonta toys;

ANTWNAROS: Asfalws kai oxi. H ellhnikh kybernhsh frontise apo thn prwth stigmh, otan alloi kwfeyan h ekanan oti den yphrxe kan dieqnhs krish, na labei oles tis aparaithtes prwtoboylies, prokeimenoy na diasfalistoyn ta symferonta twn Ellhnwn politwn. Kai otan apofasisthke se eyrwpaiko epipedo h epejergasia, h proetoimasia sxediwn gia thn ejasfalish ths reystothtas se kaqe mia xwra xwrista, h ellhnikh kybernhsh htan apo tis prwtes poy espeyse, opws eixe kaqhkon, na epejergastei kai na paroysiasei sth dhmosiothta ena tetoio sxedio. Ena sxedio poy stoxo exei thn ejasfalish ths reystothtas sthn oikonomia, th sthrijh twn mikromesaiwn, th sthrijh olwn osoi exoyn anagkh apo th roh toy xrhmatos kai olwn twn politwn, oi opoioi zhtoyn ena stegastiko daneio h xrhmata gia na krathsoyn se leitoyrgia thn epixeirhsh toys, ean antimetwpizei kapoio problhma, kai kyriws na bohqhsei ayto poy apokaloyme ``pragmatikh oikonomia''. Ta xrhmata, loipon, ta opoia qa ejasfalistoyn mesw toy sxedioy --den einai xrhmata ta opoia dinei h ellhnikh kybernhsh, epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora, oyte ena eyrw den xarizetai apo ton Proypologismo- - stoxeyoyn akribws ekei: Sth sthrijh ths pragmatikhs oikonomias.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Sas apasxolei, thn kybernhsh mallon, thn apasxolei h proklhtikh toyrkikh stash apo th stigmh poy apo thn Paraskeyh to apogeyma mexri kai xqes, eixame ereynes apo naylwmeno ploio apo thn Toyrkia epanw sthn ellhnikh yfalokrhpida;

ANTWNAROS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh exei kanei oloys toys endedeigmenoys xeirismoys, wste na proaspistei apotelesmatika ta eqnika symferonta.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Den to katalabainw. Qelete na moy peite tis energeies;

ANTWNAROS: Tis energeies qa tis plhroforhqeite analytika apo to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Exoyn ginei oloi oi aparaithtoi xeirismoi apo ta dyo Ypoyrgeia poy einai synarmodia, to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn kai to Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas, ta opoia synergasthkan me apolyth armonia, prokeimenoy na mhn yparjei, na mhn prokycei kaneis kindynos gia ta eqnika symferonta.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Egw sas rwthsa an apasxolei thn ellhnikh kybernhsh h symperifora ths Toyrkias. Sas apasxolei; Egw den eipa oti briskomaste se polemo. Ean apasxolei...

ANTWNAROS: Oyte ki egw eipa kati tetoio.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Egw rwthsa an sas apasxolei ws kybernhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Ekeino poy exei shmasia einai oti emeis diafylattoyme ta kyriarxika mas dikaiwmata epi ths yfalokrhpidas. Opws gnwrizete, h Toyrkia amfisbhtei ayta ta kyriarxika dikaiwmata se ena meros ths yfalokrhpidas. Ekeino omws to opoio exei shmasia, einai oti emeis kanoyme oles tis energeies, oloys toys xeirismoys oi opoioi apaitoyntai. Oi xeirismoi aytoi antilambaneste oti einai leptoi, einai omws kai apotelesmatikoi, prokeimenoy na diasfalistoyn ta kyriarxika mas dikaiwmata. Ayto metraei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epanerxomai sthn ypoqesh toy Batopaidioy kai me aformh thn emplokh toy k. Cwmiadh, toy Nomarxh Qessalonikhs, qa hqela na rwthsw thn kybernhsh ean exei apeyqynqei o idios o k. Cwmiadhs pros ta melh ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs h pros kapoio stelexos ths kybernhshs kai na toy apokalycei oti exei adiaseista hxhtika ntokoymenta, opws epikalesthke, opws afhse na ennohqei proxqes se thleoptiko staqmo gia thn perifhmh ypoqesh ths synanthshs me thn k. Swthropoyloy, th martyra -kleidi ths ypoqeshs Batopaidioy.

ANTWNAROS: Gnwrizw th safh dhlwsh  diaceysh toy Nomarxh Qessalonikhs. Den exw na pw, peran aytoy, kati allo.

KAKALHS: Yparxei mia anoikth kai dhmosia apeilh toy k. Cwmiadh apo to idio thleoptiko kanali, oti h martyras ``qa kaei nomika, oikonomika kai koinwnika, ean den zhthsei syggnwmh''. Pws to sxoliazete;

ANTWNAROS: Den to sxoliazw, giati den sxoliazw kaqoloy dhlwseis. Sas to exw pei.

KAKALHS: Apo th mia, yioqeteite th dhlwsh toy kai apo thn allh den jerete tipota;

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw sth sygkekrimenh grapth dhlwsh. Sas eipa oti gnwrizw th safh dhlwsh. Tis alles dhlwseis poy ginontai se kanalia opoy emfanizontai diafora proswpa toy dhmosioy bioy, opws antilambaneste den eimai se qesh kai oyte exw thn ypoxrewsh na tis gnwrizw oles.

PALAIOLOGOS: Eipate oti bgainoyn sta diafora thleoptika kanalia diafora proswpa toy dhmosioy bioy. Me sygxwreite, alla o k. Cwmiadhs den einai aplws ena proswpo toy dhmosioy bioy. Einai ena kentriko kombiko proswpo sthn ypoqesh toy Batopaidioy kai o opoios feretai h toylaxiston feretai apo sygkekrimenh martyra, anajiopisth h mh ayto qa kriqei sthn poreia, na exei emplakei kai na exei emplejei o idios to onoma toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai bgainei sta diafora kanalia wryomenos. Wryomenos, alla xwris omws na diaceysei apolyta. Gia paradeigma, shmera sto kratiko radiofwno, sthn NET, eipe oti ean leei apodeixqei oti ontws h kyria poy synodeye thn k. Swthropoyloy - -h k. Karloy, an den kanw laqos- - oti leei alhqeia, tote egw qa paraithqw apo Nomarxhs. Ayto einai adiaceysto tekmhrio ek meroys toy k. Nomarxh;

ANTWNAROS: Egw gnwrizw th grapth toy dhlwsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Emeis, omws, jeroyme kai oles tis thleoptikes. Agnoeite tis alles dhlwseis, radiofwnikes, thleoptikes;

ANTWNAROS: 'O,ti eixa na pw gi` ayto, to eipa.

PALAIOLOGOS: To gegonos oti faskei kai antifaskei, to agnoeite kai ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw kati.

FANIDHS: Qelw na sas qesw ena erwthma, to opoio fainetai alla den einai rhtoriko. Erwtw, loipon: O laos eklegei toys boyleytes kai oi boyleytes eklegoyn ton Prwqypoyrgo h to antistrofo;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai, se kamia periptwsh, na syzhthsw mazi sas h me opoiondhpote apo toys pareyriskomenoys, qemata ta opoia aptontai toy Syntagmatikoy Dikaioy kai poly perissotero ths ermhneias toy Syntagmatikoy Dikaioy. Eimai bebaios oti gnwrizete polloys syntagmatologoys - -orismenoi einai allwste kai sto Koinoboylio- - me toys opoioys qa mporeite na erqete se epafh, wste na dwsoyn apanthseis se aytes tis anhsyxies poy moy diatypwnete edw.

GALIATSATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, me dedomeno to qorybo poy exei prokalesei h chfish toy nomosxedioy gia to kapnisma kai oi sxetikes diatajeis kai me dedomeno oti ypoyrgoi ths kybernhshs sas, opws kai o k. Kaklamanhs, alla kai o k. Abramopoylos prosfata apodexqhkan th leitoyrgia kai thn yparjh kyklwmatwn sto xwro toy farmakoy, giati h kybernhsh den katonomazei ayta ta symferonta, ta opoia droyn;

ANTWNAROS: Ola sthn wra toys.

PALAIOLOGOS: Afoy den mas sxoliazete tis dhmoskophseis, na mas peite an qa yparjoyn kai alles ejormhseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn perifereia kai me poio stoxo.

ANTWNAROS: O stoxos einai poly aplos: O Prwqypoyrgos - -to eipa kai proxqes- - apo thn hmera poy ejelegh Proedros toy kommatos ths Neas Dhmokratias, diathrei stenh epafh me oles tis perifereies ths xwras. Mesa sto plaisio, loipon, ayto ginontai kai ayta ta tajidia. Egw den xrhsimopoiw, opws blepete, th lejh ``ejormhseis'' h alles poy xrhsimopoieite eseis. Otan exw kati kainoyrgio, asfalws qa sas enhmerwsw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Mexri pote qa isxyoyn aytes oi periodeies, episkeceis opws lete eseis, toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn perifereia;

ANTWNAROS: Ma, den stamathsan pote.

PALAIOLOGOS: Eixan stamathsei gia ena diasthma kai jekinhsan twra. Yparxei kapoios logos poy kanei aytes tis periodeies o Prwqypoyrgos;

ANTWNAROS: Kanete laqos. Jexnate oti o Prwqypoyrgos, opws sas eipa kai thn perasmenh fora, eixe paei sthn Hleia. To jexnate;

PALAIOLOGOS: Me aformh to qema twn pyroplhktwn perioxwn.

ANTWNAROS: Einai kako na yparxei mia aformh gia na paei kapoy o Prwqypoyrgos; Den antilambanomai ti qelete na peite. Isws na mhn sas aresei h xronikh allhloyxia.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qelw na pw, sxetizontai oi episkeceis toy Prwqypoyrgoy me to gegonos oti ypoleipetai h Nea Dhmokratia kata tesseris peripoy posostiaies monades stis dhmoskophseis;

ANTWNAROS: Aytes einai dikes sas ermhneies, oi opoies den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. O Prwqypoyrgos panta phgaine, phgainei kai qa ejakoloyqhsei na phgainei ekei poy krinei oti einai skopimo, prokeimenoy na erxetai se epafh me oloys toys Ellhnes polites.

PALAIOLOGOS: Sto prosexh anasxhmatismo, ocepote kai an ginei, qa exoyme allagh toy Ypoyrgoy Oikonomias;

ANTWNAROS: Asfalws, mono me th morfh asteismoy qa ypobalete, fantazomai, tetoia erwthsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Poly sobara thn ypobalw.

ANTWNAROS: Egw sas lew oti o anasxhmatismos apotelei syntagmatika katoxyrwmeno pronomio toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai eseis moy lete, pote, ean kai efoson ginei anasxhmatismos, ean qa fygei aytos h o allos Ypoyrgos;

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh qewreitai oti to kentriko zhthma einai h oikonomia.

ANTWNAROS: Apo esas;

PALAIOLOGOS: Genikotera qewreitai oti einai to kentriko zhthma h oikonomia kai to megalytero problhma gia thn kybernhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Kai o k. Alogoskoyfhs kanei poly kala th doyleia toy.

GALIATSATOS: Diabazontas osa mas eipate twra, eipate oti einai synenoxoi osoi parexoyn politikh kalych se aytoys toys martyres kai epejhgeite oti einai aytoi poy kalesan toys sygkekrimenoys martyres. Me dedomeno, symfwna me ta osa gnwrizw egw toylaxiston, thn k. Swthropoyloy thn kalese o SYN, egkaleite me ayto ton tropo ton SYRIZA;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw kati sta osa eipa.

KAKALHS: Eipate oti timate th mnhmh toy Polytexneioy, sta logia. Sthn prajh, omws, apodeiknyete akribws to antiqeto. Giati to synqhma ``Cwmi-Paideia-Eleyqeria'' einai epikairo para pote. H ftwxeia aplwnetai diarkws se oloena kai perissoteroys. H Paideia ypobaqmizetai kai idiwtikopoieitai kai h Dhmokratia leitoyrgei yper twn trapezwn. Pws mporeite na isxyrizeste oti timate th mnhmh toy Polytexneioy, otan ola ayta einai kinhseis sthn antiqeth akribws kateyqynsh;

ANTWNAROS: Eimai bebaios oti h syntriptikh pleiochfia twn Ellhnwn politwn einai apolyta pepeismenh, antiqeta me ayto poy nomizete profanws eseis kai diatypwsate molis, oti h Dhmokratia leitoyrgei yper olwn twn Ellhnwn politwn.

TERZHS: Epeidh mesa sthn ebdomada katatiqetai to sxedio toy Proypologismoy, to erwthma einai to ejhs: An qa syndyastei kai me tis anakoinwseis poy anamenoyme edw kai arketo kairo gia to Tameio Ftwxeias kai me alla tyxon metra sthrijhs twn koinwnikwn omadwn poy plhttontai apo thn akribeia.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kamia anafora se metra.

GALIATSATOS: O k. Alogoskoyfhs sthn omilia toy sthn London School of Economics, eipe oti h germanikh oikonomia einai h monh sthn Eyrwph poy exei ta periqwria na proxwrhsei se anaptyjiaka programmata kai na leitoyrghsei san ``atmomhxanh'' ths eyrwpaikhs oikonomias. Prosqese, malista, omws oti den to kanei, kati poy mporei kai na eklhfqei ws mia epikritikh stash apenanti sthn kybernhsh Merkel. Qa hqela na jerw prwton, an ayth thn ermhneia th symmerizetai h ellhnikh kybernhsh kai deyteron, an o k. Karamanlhs piezei na drasthriopoihqoyn oi Germanoi ws ``atmomhxanh'' stis Synodoys Koryfhs.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ypoch to sygkekrimeno edafio ths omilias. Qa epikoinwnhsw me ton k. Alogoskoyfh kai an qelete qa sas dwsw ayrio mia apanthsh. Eimai bebaios, omws, oti an epikoinwnhsete kai eseis mazi toy qa apanthsei stis apories tis opoies exete.

PALAIOLOGOS: Oso paramenei Ypoyrgos, pantws.

ANTWNAROS: Den akoysa, ti eipate;

PALAIOLOGOS: Oso paramenei Ypoyrgos, pantws.

ANTWNAROS: Exw apanthsei.

Sas eyxaristw.


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