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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Pempth, 13 Noembrioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 169568511

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 13 Noembrioy 2008

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KALARITHS: H qesh ths kybernhshs, poia einai; O k. Tatoylhs prepei na paradwsei thn edra toy h oxi;

ANTWNAROS: Exei ejantlhqei to qema ayto. Sas to exw pei.

MPALHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, giati h kybernhsh den proxwrei se nomoqetikh parembash gia na meiwqoyn ta epitokia, opws zhtei kai to PASOK, kati to opoio syzhthqhke xqes kai sth synanthsh poy eixe o k. Papandreoy me toys trapezites;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei analabei sygkekrimenes prwtoboylies, gnwstes se oloys, gia to pws prepei na ejasfalistei h reystothta sthn agora. Dhladh, na yparxei xrhma gia oloys ekeinoys poy to xreiazontai pragmatika, tis mikromesaies epixeirhseis, ta noikokyria, toys anqrwpoys poy qeloyn na synacoyn kapoio stegastiko daneio. Einai gnwsto ti exei ginei sth dieqnh agora. Exei sterecei to xrhma sth diatrapezikh agora. Dhladh, ekei poy oles oi trapezes ston kosmo, metajy twn opoiwn kai oi ellhnikes trapezes, daneizontai ta xrhmata poy prowqoyn sthn eswterikh agora, sthn eswterikh katanalwsh. Kai opoy yparxoyn ta xrhmata ayta, dinontai me poly ychla epitokia kai oxi me to epitokio ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas, opws - -eite apo agnoia, eite gia logoys paraplanhshs ths koinhs gnwmhs- - isxyrizontai oi kyrioi toy PASOK. Dinontai me poly ychlotera epitokia. Gi` ayto akribws to logo, gia na antimetwpistei ayto to yparkto problhma, me th nomoqetikh ryqmish poy brisketai sth Boylh gia th sthrijh ths reystothtas sthn ellhnikh oikonomia, h ellhnikh Politeia ejasfalizei, dinei tis eggyhseis poy xreiazontai, wste ta ellhnika pistwtika idrymata na daneizontai xrhmata me eynoikoteroys oroys kai na kateyqynoyn ta xrhmata ayta meta sthn eswterikh agora.

Opoios proteinei, opws kanei to PASOK twra, me misologa, me diarroes, me diafores perierges koybentes, na kaqorizontai ta epitokia me nomoqetikh ryqmish, epideiknyei, an mh ti allo, epikindynh agnoia. Profanws, den jerei - -h prospoieitai oti den jerei- -ti qa symbei se mia tetoia periptwsh poy - -qa moy epitrecete na sas pw- - den efarmozetai poyqena ston kosmo. Apotelei patenta twn fwsthrwn toy PASOK. Ta pistwtika idrymata qa kleisoyn toys kroynoys. H agora qa sterecei pantelws apo xrhma. Kai kati parapanw: Poios qa plhrwnei toys tokoys poy eisprattoyn oi mikrokataqetes; Antilambanetai to PASOK, ti shmainoyn ola ayta poy epaggelletai; Giati den qa elega ``proteinei''. Den nomizw oti oyte kai oi oikonomikoi sxediastes toy PASOK proteinoyn pragmatika kati tetoio. Katalabainei ti shmainei ayto gia to meso Ellhna polith, gia to meso Ellhna katanalwth; Arketa, loipon, me aytoys toys apiqanoys laikismoys poy den peiqoyn apolytws kanenan.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Giati, opws lete, den peiqoyn apolytws kanenan kai blepoyme oti exete mia apanthsh gia ola san na yparxei mia diarkhs antidrash apo thn kybernhsh gia kaqe problhma poy prokyptei. Eseis poy apodidete, epikaloymai to syndyasmo twn armodiothtwn sas, kai ws empeiros prwhn synadelfos kai ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos... ;

ANTWNAROS: Mia idiothta exw edw.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Nai, alla eixate th deyterh, h opoia mas einai xrhsimh sthn paroysa fash. Poy apodidete, loipon, to gegonos oti oi dhmoskophseis fanerwnoyn toso kakh eikona; Mporeite na mas peite ena logo; Giati ayto den einai apotypwsh ths stigmhs. Ayto einai mia stigmh, dyo zwes, h stigmh, dhladh, krataei para poly. Mporeite na moy peite to logo, loipon;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio gia dhmoskophseis.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Den qelw na moy peite gia tis dhmoskophseis. Qelw na moy peite, giati h eikona ths kybernhshs sthn koinwnia, afoy dra me toso ameso kai toso apotelesmatiko tropo, opws eseis yposthrizete, exei xalasei.

ANTWNAROS: Otan akomh to PASOK prospaqoyse na peisei olo ton kosmo, metajy twn opoiwn kai orismenoys Ellhnes polites - -giati egw den nomizw oti oi Ellhnes polites exoyn elleich krishs kai den antilambanontai oti yparxei dieqnhs oikonomikh krish - - h shmerinh kybernhsh analambane tis prwtes prwtoboylies, epairne ta prwta metra. Sygkekrimena metra, me sygkekrimenh stoxeysh. Jekaqara pragmata. Ena kai ena kanoyn dyo. Emeis, den eipame pragmata diaforetika apo ayta, prwton poy symbainoyn kai deyteron apo ayta poy pragmatika kanoyme kai einai wfelima - -to pisteyw apolyta ayto- - gia ton Ellhna polith, thn ellhnikh koinwnia sto synolo ths kai fysika thn ellhnikh oikonomia. Giati, otan h ellhnikh oikonomia paei mprosta, wfeloymaste oloi.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Ara, den blepete logo giati h kybernhsh prepei na exei fqora...

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na syzhthsw - -sas epanalambanw- - qemata, poy exoyn sxesh me eyrhmata dhmoskophsewn. Oses prospaqeies kai na kanete, sebastes apo emena, den prokeitai na kanw kanena sxolio, kamia anafora se tetoioy eidoys eyrhmata. Oi kybernhseis krinontai, otan ginontai ekloges kai einai gnwsto pote qa ginoyn ekloges.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: To jerete;

ANTWNAROS: Yparxei syntagmatikh ryqmish ep` aytoy. Ola ta alla, den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta.

KAKALHS: Einai pragmati sygkinhtikh h prospaqeia ths kybernhshs na dioxeteysei reystothta stis trapezes. Eidika otan bohqate tis trapezes, para poly sygkineite ton kosmo. Fainetai ayto kai stis dhmoskophseis. Alla hqela na pw oti skefteste san trapeziths...

ANTWNAROS: Kaqoloy, antiqetws.

KAKALHS: Ma, ayth th syllogistikh poy anaptyjate prohgoymenws, dystyxws ayth akoyme kai apo toys trapezites, oti exei sterecei to xrhma sth diatrapezikh agora, einai poly akriba ta epitokia klp. Akribws, o,ti lene oi trapezites, to leei kai h kybernhsh...

ANTWNAROS: Ma, ayth einai mia dieqnhs pragmatikothta, oso kai an eseis den qelete na th deite. Ta xrhmata, gnwrizete, se oles tis dytikes koinwnies, se olo ton kosmo...

KAKALHS: (Den akoygetai) oi trapezes...

ANTWNAROS: Ta xrhmata, se olo ton kosmo, diakinoyntai apo ta pistwtika idrymata. Egw allo tropo, den gnwrizw.

KAKALHS: Yparxoyn kai kratika pistwtika idrymata. Kapoia poy exete afhsei. Alla, telos pantwn, den einai ayth h erwthsh. H erwthsh einai, afoy exete tosh reystothta, th dioxeteyete stis trapezes, gia toys syntajioyxoys, giati den exete tipote na dwsete;

ANTWNAROS: Qa to pw gia mia akomh fora oti h kybernhsh den xarizei tipota se kanenan. Kai den apantw se esas, apantw ston Proedro toy SYRIZA, o opoios gia mia akomh fora, milwntas shmera, diatypwse to apolytws asthrikto epixeirhma oti dhqen h kybernhsh dinei 28 disekatommyria stis trapezes. Den yparxei megalytero cema apo ayto ton isxyrismo. Kanena eyrw apo ton proypologismo den xarizetai stis trapezes, den xarizetai sta pistwtika idrymata. Exoyme analysei epaneilhmmenws peri tinos prokeitai. To ekana gia teleytaia fora molis prin apo pente lepta. Kai opoios isxyrizetai to antiqeto, pera apo to oti einai kakopistos, ``careyei'' bebaiws kai se ``qola nera'', giati isxyrizetai pragmata poy den exoyn kamia apolytws sxesh me thn pragmatikothta.

KAKALHS: Giati na sas pistecoyme esas se ayto ton isxyrismo (den akoygetai) apo th stigmh poy hdh oi trapezites lene oti den prokeitai na meiwqoyn ta epitokia sth synexeia para ta 28,5 disekatommyria poy qa paroyn kai epishs den dexontai kai kanenan epitropo.

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora: Den qa paroyn 28 disekatommyria. Deyteron, qa perimenete kai eseis, opws oloi mas perimenoyme, th chfish toy sxetikoy nomosxedioy, to opoio me sygkekrimenes diatajeis, tis opoies exei perilabei h kybernhsh me dikh ths prwtoboylia, chfizetai prosexws apo th Boylh. Triton, qa perimenete na deite, ti qa symbei, otan chfistei to nomosxedio. Kai en pash periptwsei, epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora, egw - -kai profanws kai eseis, oloi oi pareyriskomenoi edw, alla kai oloi oi Ellhnes polites- - den fantazomai na gnwrizoyn kapoion poy toy lene oti toy xarizoyn 28 disekatommyria kai den erxetai na ta parei. Synepws, den xarizetai oyte ena eyrw.

XIWTHS: Pws sxoliazete, kyrie Ekproswpe, thn apofash twn trapezwn na katapolemhsoyn oroys poy ta dikasthria orizoyn ws kataxrhstikoys thn idia stigmh poy h kybernhsh kalei tis trapezes na rijoyn ta epitokia. Thn idia stigmh, dhladh, h kybernhsh toys kalei na sygxrwtistoyn me thn koinwnia, ekeinoi diekdikoyn na synexisoyn na epiballoyn kataxrhstikoys oroys stoys pelates toys.

ANTWNAROS: Einai apolytws katadikasteo. Einai h kybernhsh, opws gnwrizete, me prwtoboylies twn armodiwn Ypoyrgwn, ekeinh poy ekane ta aparaithta bhmata, wste aytoi oi kataxrhstikoi oroi na mhn isxyoyn, na mhn epibarynoyn toys Ellhnes polites, toys Ellhnes katanalwtes. Apo thn allh pleyra, o kaqenas, exei to dikaiwma na katafygei ekei poy nomizei, na prosfygei ekei poy nomizei oti qelei na prosfygei. Alla eimai bebaios, oti kaneis den exei to dikaiwma na mhn efarmozei thn koinwnikh eyaisqhsia poy perimenei to koinwniko synolo apo ayton.

XIWTHS: Epishs, qa hqela na rwthsw, an oi trapezes ejakoloyqhsoyn na exoyn ayth th symperifora, thn opoia kai h kybernhsh katadikazei kai alla kommata katadikazoyn. Meleta h kybernhsh thn piqanothta na aposyrei to sxedio ths;

ANTWNAROS: To sxedio - -qa pw gia mia akomh fora- - einai sxedio gia th sthrijh ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, einai sxedio apo to opoio qa wfelhqei h ellhnikh koinwnia sto synolo ths. Den qa wfelhqoyn oi trapezes. Oi Ellhnes polites einai ekeinoi oi opoioi qa wfelhqoyn. Pros ofelos toy kaqenos apo emas jexwrista kai toy koinwnikoy synoloy kai ths oikonomias mas, ginetai to sxedio.

XIWTHS: Epitrecte moy mia parathrhsh: Den synallassontai oloi oi polites me tis trapezes. Pragmati, qa wfelhqoyn oi polites, alla oi polites poy synallassontai me tis trapezes kai opwsdhpote qa wfelhqoyn kai oi trapezes poy enisxyoyn th reystothta toys apo ayto to sxedio.

ANTWNAROS: Enisxyetai h reystothta ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Ayto einai to apofasistiko kai bebaiws h megalh pleiochfia twn Ellhnwn politwn exei sxesh me tis trapezes. As mh leme pragmata ta opoia den exoyn sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Den nomizw oti edw mesa yparxei fer` eipein kapoios, o opoios den exei kapoia sxesh me mia trapeza.

XIWTHS: Edw mesa, mporei na mhn yparxei kaneis. Alla, gnwrizw poly kosmo poy den exei oyte 100 eyrw kataqesh sthn trapeza kai ws ek toytoy den mporese pote na parei kai daneio. Yparxei polys kosmos kai idiws asqenesteres tajeis, poy eseis lete oti prepei na toys enisxysete...

ANTWNAROS: Bebaiws. Dioti, endexomenws, aytoi stoys opoioys anafereste eseis, apasxoloyntai kapoy. Ean den ejasfalistei h reystothta pros tis epixeirhseis, oi opoies apasxoloyn aytoys toys sympolites mas, xamhlomisqoys me megales anagkes, opws ypainisseste kai sto opoio symfwnw, tote kindyneyoyn na xaqoyn oi qeseis ergasias aytwn twn anqrwpwn. Ws ek toytoy kai aytoi oi anqrwpoi wfeloyntai apo th diathrhsh, thn ejasfalish ths reystothtas sto synolo ths ellhnikhs koinwnias. Oloi wfeloyntai, me ton enan tropo h ton allo.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes to meshmeri o k. Meimarakhs me enan emmeso tropo amfisbhthse thn epilogh toy Prwqypoyrgoy na teqei ektos Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas o k. Tatoylhs, legontas oti o kaqenas exei thn apoch toy gia to qema. To apogeyma, h k. Ntora Mpakogiannh, milwntas se mia sxetikh ekdhlwsh, eipe oti exoyme kanei laqh, kati poy akoygetai para poly glyka sta aytia twn politwn. Qewreite eseis oti me mia seira apo tetoies parembaseis sthrizetai o Prwqypoyrgos se ayth thn krisimh stigmh poy leei h kybernhsh oti brisketai logw ths dieqnoys oikonomikhs krishs h ginetai enas agwnas dromoy, prokeimenoy ta koryfaia stelexh na karpwqoyn gia thn epomenh hmera ths Neas Dhmokratias;

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, egw den blepw kamia epomenh hmera. Dhladh, den blepw epomenh hmera, thn opoia dhqen, opws moy lete, diekdikoyn kapoioi. Deyteron, den diabasa, me ton tropo poy eseis tis diabasate, tis dhlwseis toy k. Meimarakh. Den blepw na diaforopoieitai se tipota apo thn apofash na apomakrynqei, na mhn apotelei pleon melos ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ths Neas Dhmokratias o k. Tatoylhs. Allwste, to qema ayto exei teleiwsei. Triton - -epeidh anaferqhkate kai sthn k. Mpakogiannh- - h k. Mpakogiannh eipe ayto poy exei pei allwste kai o Prwqypoyrgos, epaneilhmmenws, dhmosia. Den diekdikei ayth h kybernhsh to alaqhto. Bebaiws kai exoyme kanei laqh. Bebaiws kai exoyn ginei laqh. Alla shmasia exei to teliko apotelesma. Shmasia exei to synolo. Gnwrizete kapoion o opoios na dra, na pairnei apofaseis, na exei eyqynh gia kati kai na mhn kanei, se kapoio stadio ths pentaxronhs diadromhs poy exei sygkekrimena kaqhkonta, kapoia laqh; Ayto qa htan ejairetika yperfialo na to isxyristei kapoios. Kai h shmerinh kybernhsh kaqe allo para yperfialh einai.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Aplws exei endiaferon h stigmh.

ANTWNAROS: Egw den blepw kati tetoio. Aytes einai dikes sas analyseis tis opoies, bebaiws, exete dikaiwma na kanete. Den me briskoyn, omws, symfwno.

MANH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, yparxei programma periodeiwn toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn perifereia;

ANTWNAROS: Otan yparjei kati, qa to plhroforhqeite.

XIWTHS: Exei yparjei hdh, yparxoyn dhmosieymata ston Typo poy emfanizoyn ton Prwqypoyrgo na episkeptetai thn Kozanh.

ANTWNAROS: Sas exw pei - -opws kai sta epishma tajidia- - otan yparjei epishmh anakoinwsh, qa to plhroforhqeite. Den exw na pw tipote peran twn epishmwn anakoinwsewn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, poios o logos na synanthqei o Prwqypoyrgos mystika me treis koryfaioys Ypoyrgoys, oi opoioi epopteyoyn krisimoys tomeis sthn oikonomia; Anaferomai sto dhmosieyma poy exei shmera to ``BHMA''.

ANTWNAROS: Oso eimai egw Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, den exei ginei tetoia synanthsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Dhladh, to diaceydete, apo o,ti katalabainw.

ANTWNAROS: Oso eimai egw Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, dhladh tis treis teleytaies ebdomades, den exei ginei tetoia synanthsh. Bebaiws kai to diaceydw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ara, yponoeite oti exei ginei nwritera, prin ginete eseis Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos.

ANTWNAROS: Ma, den mporw na gnwrizw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ma, afoy ayto yponoeite. To yponoeite oti lete ``oso eisaste eseis''.

ANTWNAROS: Thn apanthsh, qa moy epitrecete na th dwsw egw. Oso eimai egw Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, den exei ginei tetoia synanthsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Yparxei kati sto epomeno xroniko diasthma, to opoio anamenetai na anakoinwqei apo thn kybernhsh epishmws se sxesh me tis adynames koinwnikes tajeis, me tis asqenesteres koinwnikes tajeis;

ANTWNAROS: Analambanoyme synexeia prwtoboylies gia osoys exoyn anagkh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Me sygxwreite, alla to Tameio Kata Ths Ftwxeias exei ejaggelqei, alla akomh den exei proxwrhsei.

ANTWNAROS: Bebaiws kai exei proxwrhsei. Den eiste kala plhroforhmenos.

PALAIOLOGOS: Endexomenws. Se sxesh, epishs, me tis ejaggelies poy exoyn ginei apo ton Prwqypoyrgo ton Ioylio, otan eixe paei sthn Arxaia Olympia, eixe ejaggeilei ena programma anasygkrothshs twn pyroplhktwn ka seismoplhktwn perioxwn ths Hleias kai ths Axaias. Se poio stadio brisketai h ylopoihsh aytoy toy sxedioy;

ANTWNAROS: Qa exw ayrio ola ta stoixeia, wste na sas exw apolytws enhmeroys.

PALAIOLOGOS: Alhqeyei oti eprokeito na eiselqei sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph xqes kai telika anablhqhke h eisagwgh toy;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi.

XIWTHS: Prin apo deka hmeres, o Prwqypoyrgos stis Bryjelles eixe anakoinwsei oti gia antimetwpistoyn oi epiptwseis ths krishs qa yparjoyn kapoia metra gia na diathrhqei h koinwnikh staqerothta. Ejakoloyqei na isxyei ayth h proanaggelia toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa exei pei o Prwqypoyrgos.

XIWTHS: Gia thn proetoimasia aytoy toy paketoy koinwnikhs staqerothtas, o Prwqypoyrgos den synergazetai me toys synarmodioys Ypoyrgoys;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ypoch moy kanena paketo.

XIWTHS: Pws qa einai; Mporeite na mhn to lete ``paketo'', na to peite ``desmh'' h na to peite...

ANTWNAROS: Den exw tipota pros anakoinwsh. Otan yparjei kati, qa to plhroforhqeite.

XIWTHS: Oxi, allo sas erwtw. O Prwqypoyrgos gia thn proetoimasia aytwn twn ryqmisewn koinwnikhs staqerothtas den synergazetai me toys synarmodioys Ypoyrgoys;

ANTWNAROS: O Prwqypoyrgos, opws gnwrizete, epikoinwnei thlefwnika poly syxna me toys Ypoyrgoys. Xqes, eixame epishs synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs. Shmera, eide ton k. Xatzhdakh. Otan yparjei kati pros anakoinwsh, qa to plhroforhqeite.

XIWTHS: Akoysa nwritera na lete oti oi ekloges problepontai apo proqesmia poy problepei to Syntagma kai ola ta alla den exoyn sxesh me thn pragmatikothta.

ANTWNAROS: Malista.

XIWTHS: Ayto shmainei oti oi apoceis poy ekfrazontai, poy diabazontai kai shmera stis efhmerides, apo ypoyrgoys oti piqanoterh hmeromhnia gia tis ekloges einai to 2010, den isxyei;

ANTWNAROS: Den diatypwse ayto akribws o k. Meimarakhs.

XIWTHS: Egw den eipa gia ton k. Meimarakh.

ANTWNAROS: Sas to lew egw monos moy. Den exw kamia dyskolia na sas to pw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kai o k. Paylopoylos, epishs.

ANTWNAROS: To aytonohto: Poly apla, einai oti h kybernhsh exei eklegei gia tessera xronia.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kai h prohgoymenh eixe eklegei gia tessera xronia.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei eklegei gia tessera xronia. H proqesh ayths ths kybernhshs einai na meinei sth qesh ths kai na pragmatopoihsei to ergo ths, to opoio kai kanei prajh. Oi dyo Ypoyrgoi, toys opoioys anaferate, profanws anaferqhkan se kati poy einai se oloys gnwsto. Stis arxes toy 2010 prepei na eklegei o kainoyrgios Proedros ths Dhmokratias... .

PALAIOLOGOS: O diadoxos toy k. Papoylia.

ANTWNAROS: To proswpo poy qa analabei thn epomenh qhteia. Loipon, ti symbainei; Gnwrizete poies einai oi ariqmhtikes analogies sth Boylh. Prokeimenoy na eklegei Proedros ths Dhmokratias, prepei na symprajoyn toylaxiston dyo kommata. Dhladh, ta aytonohta ta kanoyme megalo politiko qema; Den briskw poy einai to periergo.

XIWTHS: To periergo einai oti stelexh ths Neas Dhmokratias ypainissontai oti kapoio apo ta ena apo ta dyo kommata qa kanoyn paixnidi me toys qesmoys, enw sthn periodo ths metapoliteyshs den exei ginei pote ayto.

ANTWNAROS: Pantws, den einai h Nea Dhmokratia.

XIWTHS: Nai, den alla den exoyme kamia tetoia endeijh.

ANTWNAROS: Paixnidia tetoia exei kanei allo komma. Pantws, oxi h Nea Dhmokratia.

XIWTHS: Poio einai to komma;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Symmerizeste thn apoch poy ejefrase o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias xqes, oti yparxoyn kanalia ths diaplokhs poy sas kanoyn kakopisth kritikh;

ANTWNAROS: Oriste;

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Diabazw edw...

ANTWNAROS: Apo poy to diabazete, na moy peite kat` arxas.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Sthn egkyrotath efhmerida ``TO BHMA''.

ANTWNAROS: Wraia. Na moy diabasete, omws, apo epishmh anakoinwsh kai endexomenws kai tote den qa sas sxoliasw. Bebaiws, h efhmerida poy anaferate, opws ola ta Mesa, einai egkyrh, alla egw den sxoliazw anagrafomena se efhmerides. Parakalw, otan moy diabazete loipon apo dhlwseis Ypoyrgwn, na moy diabazete apo epishmes anakoinwseis.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Den hrqe sto grafeio moy, htan arga. Den egine, qelete na peite, ayth h dhlwsh;

ANTWNAROS: Eipa egw kati tetoio; Osa leei o k. Alogoskoyfhs exei kapoio basimo logo na ta leei.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Malista. Eyxaristw.

MPOTSARHS: Akoygetai oti yparxei mia entonh dixognwmia metajy toy k. Meimarakh kai toy k. Zagorith, oson afora sto an qa prepei na paraithqei apo th boyleytikh toy edra o k. Tatoylhs. Malista akoysthke kai grafthke oti o k. Zagoriths aytes tis hmeres leitoyrgei ektos grammhs Megaroy Majimoy. Poia einai h qesh sas;

ANTWNAROS: Sas diabebaiw, loipon, gia kati para poly aplo: Den mas apasxolei kaqoloy to en logw qema, dioti gia mas exei lhjei.

MPOTSARHS: Akribws ayth einai h antiqesh. Oti asxoleitai synexws o k. Zagoriths kai koryfaioi Ypoyrgoi ekfrazoyn enstaseis kai diarreoyn oti kineitai ektos grammhs.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati allo ap` o,ti sas eipa.

MANH: Dieykrinistika ep` aytoy: Poio qema exei lhjei; H paradosh ths edras; Ep` aytoy ginetai h syzhthsh, oxi an kalws h kakws...

ANTWNAROS: To qema Tatoylh exei ejantlhqei gia mas. Den exw na pw kati allo.

MANH: Oxi, gia thn paradosh ginontai oi erwthseis.

ANTWNAROS: Oles oi ptyxes toy exoyn ejantlhqei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Hqela na rwthsw pote na anamenoyme thn paraithsh toy k. Aqanasopoyloy apo th DEH;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa exw pei sth diarkeia olhs ayths ths ebdomadas. Ean qelete malista, qa kocw ta apokommata kai qa ta episynacw sto shmerino briefing.

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi, shmera einai mia kainoyria hmera, shmeiwteon.

ANTWNAROS: Sas diabebaiw oti den ginetai tipota apo osa ypainixqhkate.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ara, den qa paraithqei o k. Aqanasopoylos kai qa ginoyn oi ayjhseis.

ANTWNAROS: Den isxyei tipote diaforetiko apo ayto poy sas eipa xqes, proxqes kai th Deytera.

PALAIOLOGOS: Wraia. Oi ayjhseis qa isxysoyn apo 1hs Ianoyarioy;

ANTWNAROS: Den isxyei tipota diaforetiko apo ayto poy sas eipa xqes, proxqes kai th Deytera.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, ennow twra gia tis ayjhseis, oxi gia ton k. Aqanasopoylo.

ANTWNAROS: Stis ayjhseis anaferomai. Gia tis ayjhseis ekana sxetikh anafora.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: O prwhn Prwqypoyrgos, o k. Shmiths, milwntas xqes, kathgorhse gia akrato laikismo thn kybernhsh sas kai eipe oti afhse anoxyrwth th xwra apenanti sthn oikonomikh qyella, h kybernhsh sas.

ANTWNAROS: O teleytaios poy mporei na isxyristei kati tetoio einai o k. Shmiths bebaiws. Dioti ekeinos, oi dikes toy kybernhseis, mas paredwsan mia oikonomia me ta gnwsta elleimmata kai me ta gnwsta chla pososta anergias. Kai gia ta opoia katabalame systhmatikes kai apotelesmatikes prospaqeies, prokeimenoy na ta meiwsoyme.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Se posa xronia qa ta meiwsete, kyrie Ekproswpe;

ANTWNAROS: Qelete na sas pw ta noymera;

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Oxi, den qa to antejw.

ANTWNAROS: Nai. Alla, synepws, den nomimopoieitai o k. Shmiths na kanei tetoioy eidoys kritikh.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, alla sas qymizei tipota oti o k. Shmiths efyge san ``katallhloteros'';

ANTWNAROS: Den jerw ti qelete na peite. Egw, oytws h allws, den sxoliazw dhmoskophseis, twrines h palaioteres.

MANH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes, proxqes kai th Deytera eipate oti oi dioikhseis eishgoyntai kai h kybernhsh apofasizei, swsta;

ANTWNAROS: Bebaiws.

MANH: Pote qa apofasisete;

ANTWNAROS: Otan erqei h wra.

MANH: Pote qa erqei ayth h wra;

ANTWNAROS: Otan erqei h wra. Den apofasizontai ayta ta pragmata me thleoptikoys xronoys.

MANH: Yparxei eishghsh toy dioikhtikoy symboylioy ths DEH.

ANTWNAROS: Otan erqei h wra.

MANH: Den yphrxe kai mas legate na perimenoyme thn apofash toy dioikhtikoy symboylioy.

ANTWNAROS: Otan erqei h wra.

KAKARNIAS: Xqes apofasisthke ektaktws - -an den kanw kapoio laqos- - na synanthqei o Prwqypoyrgos me toys ekproswpoys twn syntajioyxwn. Ayto shmainei oti oi portes toy Majimoy qa einai anoixtes kai gia alles omades, as poyme, politwn poy exoyn kapoia aithmata na ekfrasoyn;

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, h synanthsh den htan ektakth, htan kati poy eixe syzhthqei edw kai arketo kairo. Deyteron, oi portes toy prwqypoyrgikoy grafeioy, opws exei apodeixqei sthn prajh, einai synexws anoixtes.

Sas eyxaristw.

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