Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-11-11

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 11 Noembrioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 169240360

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 11 Noembrioy 2008

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Ayrio Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, qa synedriasei to KYSEA, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh, kai qa asxolhqei me qemata ths armodiothtas toy.

Stis 11.00 qa synedriasei, sto Megaro Majimoy, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy, h Kybernhtikh Epitroph kai qa asxolhqei me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Periballontos, Xwrotajias kai Dhmosiwn Ergwn.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Xqes o k. Tatoylhs, sth selida poy exei sto diadiktyo, meta th diagrafh toy, xarakthrise ton Prwqypoyrgo ``epikindyno''. Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio;

ANTWNAROS: Ta sxolia ayta xarakthrizoyn ekeinon ton opoio ta kanei. Den exw na pw kati allo, pera apo osa eipa xqes.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Epibebaiwnete tis plhrofories poy lene oti o k. Aqanasopoylos exei hdh ypobalei paraithsh ston k. Alogoskoyfh, h opoia den exei anakoinwqei akomh h oxi;

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka xqes. Einai safh ta osa eipa. Den exw ypoch moy kamia tetoia kinhsh.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: O k. Zagoriths shmera to prwi, milwntas sth NET, afhse na ennohqei oti qa antikatastaqei o k. Aqanasopoylos, ean epimeinei stis ayjhseis.

ANTWNAROS: Moy ypeblhqhsan, opws qymaste, polles erwthseis gi` ayto to qema, xqes. H qesh thn opoia exw kai ayto to opoio prospaqhsa na sas ejhghsw einai safes: O Dioikhths enos organismoy, h Dioikhsh enos organismoy, to Dioikhtiko Symboylio enos organismoy, epejergazetai diafores protaseis, diafores idees. Oi idees aytes den desmeyoyn thn kybernhsh. Ekeinh h opoia apofasizei, opws gnwrizete, basei twn kanonwn poy isxyoyn, einai h kybernhsh. Kai perimenoyme, opws sas eipa - -to lew gia mia akomh fora- - kai apo tis Dioikhseis aytwn twn organismwn, na epideiknyoyn thn aparaithth koinwnikh eyaisqhsia.

KAKALHS: Nai, alla mexri twra h kybernhsh oles aytes tis idees tis exei kanei apodektes sto synolo toys...

ANTWNAROS: Qa sas diorqwsw kai qa moy einai poly dysaresto...

KAKALHS: Gia peste moy, poia den exei apodexqei mexri twra; Tis ayjhseis;

ANTWNAROS: Anatrexontas, qa deite oti polles apo tis protaseis poy sto parelqon eixan ypobalei Dioikhseis organismwn kai DEKO, den exoyn ginei dektes apo thn kybernhsh. Eyxaristws, an qelete, na anatrejw kai na sas ferw ayrio merikes ap` aytes tis apofaseis. Sas lew de oti aytes einai protaseis oi opoies den einai desmeytikes gia thn kybernhsh. Einai safes ayto to opoio lew.

KAKALHS: Parola ayta tis kanate apodektes mexri twra, sto onoma oti htan anwnymes etaireies.

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw, gia mia akomh fora: Einai polles oi periptwseis kata tis opoies ta kybernhtika stelexh den ekanan dektes tetoies eishghseis. Aytos einai malista o swstos oros.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Egw ayto poy den katalabainw k. Ekproswpe einai, afoy h kybernhsh diafwnei me tis sygkekrimenes protaseis, giati afhnei edw kai deka hmeres na sernetai ena qema me to opoio diafwnei kai sto telos qa ``faei'' kai ton k. Aqanasopoylo;

ANTWNAROS: Oi eishghseis poy ginontai - -kai ginontai polles eishghseis pros thn kybernhsh- - den exoyn th morfh apofasewn. Einai safes ayto to opoio lew.

A. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Qewreite oti einai isxyrh pleiochfia twn 151 boyleytwn;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa sthn idia erwthsh xqes kai sas parapempw se aythn. Den exei allajei kati apo xqes. H kybernhsh synexizei kanonika, apotelesmatika, oysiastika, th doyleia ths.

A. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Zhtate kai epishmws apo ton k. Tatoylh na afhsei th boyleytikh toy edra apo th stigmh poy ejelegh ypo th shmaia ths Neas Dhmokratias;

ANTWNAROS: Giati to lete ayto;

A. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Giati koryfaia stelexh toy kommatos exoyn apo to prwi, se dhlwseis se radiofwna, se efhmerides, zhtoyn ayto: Oti o k. Tatoylhs prepei na afhsei th boyleyth toy edra.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw egw na prosqesw kati se ayta poy lene ta koryfaia stelexh toy kommatos sta opoia anafereste.

KAKALHS: Dhladh, o epomenos boyleyths poy qa kanei kritikh h qa amfisbhthsei tis epiloges toy Prwqypoyrgoy, qa teqei ektos kommatos; Qelw na pw, o Prwqypoyrgos einai sto apyroblhto ths kritikhs twn boyleytwn;

ANTWNAROS: Epeidh den hsastan parwn xqes, sas parapempw stis xqesines anakoinwseis poy ekana kai oi opoies exoyn apanthsei ola ayta ta erwthmata. Den prokeitai na epanelqw. Gia mas to qema ayto exei ejantlhqei.

KAKALHS: To diabasa to briefing, alla den exete apanthsei se ayth thn erwthsh.

ANTWNAROS: Exw apanthsei se oles tis synafeis erwthseis. To qema gia mas exei ejantlhqei.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Lete oti oi dioikhtes twn organismwn, anejarthta apo to pws leitoyrgoyn, kanoyn eishghseis gia tis opoies telika apofasizei h kybernhsh. Swsta;

ANTWNAROS: Se ayta ta qemata.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Kai lete oti kaleite tis dioikhseis aytes na epideiknyoyn thn koinwnikh eyaisqhsia poy xreiazontai oi stigmes. To katalaba swsta mexri edw h oxi; Ayto shmainei oti kaleite ton k. Aqanasopoylo h na prosarmostei stis entoles sas h na fygei; H opoiondhpote allo mhn to proswpopoihsoyme.

ANTWNAROS: Eseis aplws kaleiste na dexeste thn apanthsh poy sas dinw. Oi ermhneies einai dikes sas.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Eyxaristw.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas peite me poia krithria h kybernhsh diorise epikefalhs toy Tameioy Kata ths Ftwxeias ton k. Analyth; Mhpws epeidh exei qhteysei sto SEB kai gnwrizei th ftwxeia apo ta mesa;

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw akribws to qema sto opoio anafereste. Se kamia periptwsh den qa hmoyn ekeinos, o opoios, edw se ayto to xwro, qa apajiwna opoiondhpote anqrwpo, o opoios exei mia makra diadromh sth xwra mas.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, alla einai kat` ejoxhn politikh kai symbolikh kinhsh h opoia deixnei, an mh ti allo, oti h kybernhsh den prokeitai na dwsei oyte kan ta cixoyla. Ta cixoyla den qa ftasoyn pote stoys ftwxoys. Otan bazeis na diaxeiristei ena poy den...

ANTWNAROS: Prospaqw na katalabw poia einai h erwthsh sas.

KAKALHS: H erwthsh htan safhs apo thn arxh. Poia htan ta krithria poy dialejate ton prwhn antiproedro toy SEB epikefalhs toy Tameioy Kata ths Ftwxeias.

ANTWNAROS: Antilambanomai oti sas einai dyskolo na dexqeite oti orismenoi anqrwpoi me makra diadromh diaqetoyn ekeines tis dioikhtikes ikanothtes, oi opoies xreiazontai gia th diaxeirish enos tetoioy Tameioy.

Sas eyxaristw.

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