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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Pempth, 6 Noembrioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 168336307

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 6 Noembrioy 2008

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

" H ellhnikh kybernhsh ekfrazei th baqia ths lyph gia thn apwleia twn dyo Ellhnwn ajiwmatikwn, toy tagmatarxh Dhmhtrioy Skoyra kai toy loxagoy Aqanasioy Kakampakoy, poy exasan th zwh toys yphretwntas thn patrida, xqes to brady. Ekfrazoyme th symparastash kai ta syllyphthria mas pros toys oikeioys twn atyxwn ajiwmatikwn mas.

" O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs anaxwrei shmera to apogeyma gia tis Bryjelles, prokeimenoy ayrio, Paraskeyh 7 Noembrioy, na symmetasxei sto ektakto Eyrwpaiko Symboylio.

Ayrio to meshmeri stis 13.00, o k. Karamanlhs qa parastei sto geyma ergasias twn arxhgwn kratwn kai kybernhsewn, enw stis 15.30 qa kanei dhlwseis stoys ekproswpoys twn Meswn Mazikhs Enhmerwshs kai amesws meta qa epistrecei sthn Aqhna.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pws sxoliazete thn epistrofh twn dyo paraithqentwn Eisaggelewn sto dikastiko Swma;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio. Ekane dhlwseis, gi` ayto to qema, molis pro oligoy, o Ypoyrgos k. Xatzhgakhs meta thn enhmerwtikh synanthsh poy eixe shmera me ton Prwqypoyrgo sto Megaro Majimoy.

ARMENHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h Eyrwpaikh Kentrikh Trapeza, anamenetai - -an den to exei kanei hdh- - na meiwsei to epitokio kata mish monada. Ayto qa exei antikrisma kai stoys polites; Qa meiwqoyn ta epitokia twn stegastikwn kai allwn daneiwn;

ANTWNAROS: Kat` arxas, den prokeitai pote na sxoliasw kati to opoio endexetai na ginei. Kai malista ena tetoio lepto qema poy exei sxesh me ta epitokia. Eimai bebaios omws oti ekeinoi oi opoioi diaxeirizontai ta posa poy kateyqynontai ws daneia pros toys Ellhnes polites, qa metakylhsoyn oles aytes tis ptwseis twn epitokiwn stoys telikoys katanalwtes: Stoys Ellhnes polites, opws kai prepei na ginei.

KAKALHS: Ayth sas h bebaiothta exei diaceysqei hdh sthn prajh. Arkei na sas pw, qa jerete asfalws, oti ta epitokia twn pistwtikwn kartwn tis teleytaies hmeres, exoyn ayjhqei apo tis trapezes sto 17% me 19%. Metakylwntas, dhladh, sthn pragmatikothta oi trapezes ta barh ths xrhmatopistwtikhs krishs stoys katanalwtes. H kybernhsh ti akribws kanei, dhladh; Qa parakoloyqei ws aboylos qeaths th nomimopoihmenh ayth tokoglyfia twn trapezwn kai qa toys prosferei epipleon kai 28 disekatommyria;

ANTWNAROS: Ejakoloyqeite na menete proskollhmenos sta 28 disekatommyria, gia ta opoia eipa...

KAKALHS: Apanthste gia ta epitokia.

ANTWNAROS: Kyrie Kakalh qa moy epitrecete na dwsw thn apanthsh thn opoia egw qelw. Ejakoloyqeite, loipon, na menete proskollhmenos sta 28 disekatommyria, ta opoia opws sas ejhghsa, den xarizontai se kanenan. Oyte ena eyrw den phgainei xaristika stis trapezes kai ayto einai hlioy faeinoteron. Jerete kanenan - -to lew gia mia akomh fora- - poy na toy xarizoyn lefta kai na mhn erqei na ta parei; Ekeino to opoio ekane h ellhnikh kybernhsh, einai h epejergasia enos sxedioy gia thn prostasia, th synolikh sthrijh ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, ths pragmatikhs oikonomias. Ayto to sxedio egine antikeimeno epejergasias, proetoimasthke mesa sto plaisio twn genikwn apofasewn toy sxedioy poy exei parei h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Kai stoxos aytoy toy sxedioy einai akribws na ejasfalistei h reystothta, h prosbash sto xrhma, stoys Ellhnes polites. Se oloys ekeinoys poy xreiazontai to xrhma eite gia stegastiko daneio eite se mikromesaies kai mikres epixeirhseis, prokeimenoy na synexisoyn th drasthriothta toys. Pera apo ayto, gnwrizete epishs oti apo to Tameio Eggyodosias Mikrwn kai Poly Mikrwn Epixeirhsewn exei ekponhqei ena programma me to opoio qa daneiodotoyntai, me eggyhsh aytoy toy tameioy, mikres kai poly mikres epixeirhseis. Aytes, dhladh, poy apoteloyn, opws exw pei kai alles fores, th raxokokalia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Oi epixeirhseis aytes qa mporoyn na pairnoyn daneio mexri 350.000 eyrw, sas to lew etsi aploysteymena ayth th stigmh, me idiaitera eynoikoys oroys. Enas apo aytoys toys oroys einai h epidothsh toy epitokioy mexri 6 monades. Se polles dhladh periptwseis qa pairnoyn to daneio, den qa elega atoka alla, sxedon atoka, wste na exoyn ta kefalaia kinhsews ta opoia xreiazontai kai na synexisoyn na leitoyrgoyn mesa se ayth thn idiaitera dyskolh periodo, alla kai na synexisoyn na apasxoloyn to proswpiko poy exoyn. Ayta einai ta metra ta opoia exei proetoimasei, exei paroysiasei h kybernhsh kai mpainoyn ena-ena se efarmogh. Ena synolo prwtoboyliwn poy exoyn ena stoxo: Na sthrijoyn thn ellhnikh oikonomia. Kai panw sthn ellhnikh oikonomia, opws gnwrizete, sthrizetai h ellhnikh koinwnia.

STAQOPOYLOS: Wstoso, oi trapezes den symmerizontai aytes tis apoceis ths kybernhshs. Orismenoi trapezites malista, opws o k. Arapogloy, prin apo ligo, eipe sth Boylh, ejefrase tis epifylajeis toy, gia to an qa prepei na mpei h Eqnikh sto sxedio ayto ths kybernhshs.

ANTWNAROS: To eipame apo thn arxh: H symmetoxh sto sxedio einai eqelontikh. Alla kaneis den mporei na epikaleitai th mh symmetoxh toy sto sxedio prostasias ths ellhnikhs oikonomias kai na metakylyei to kostos ths mh symmetoxhs toy stoys Ellhnes polites.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Sas paw se ena allo qema k. Ekproswpe. H k. Petralia shmera milhse gia kyma apolysewn. H kybernhsh exei kapoio sxedio, mias kai h antimetwpish ths anergias htan kai proeklogikh ths ejaggelia, h kybernhsh exei kapoio sxedio na antimetwpisei to kyma apolysewn poy ek twn pragmatwn qa plhjei th xwra mas logw ths krishs;

ANTWNAROS: H xwra mas, opws gnwrizete, exei petyxei ta teleytaia xronia akribws na meiwsei thn anergia poy briskotan se ychla pososta, panw apo 11%, se pososto gyrw sto 7%. Exw pei kai alles fores - -to epanalambanw kai shmera- - oti h maxh ayth gia thn katapolemhsh, thn antimetwpish, th meiwsh ths anergias einai synexhs. Oso yparxei estw kai enas anergos den mporei kaneis se ayth th xwra na einai ikanopoihmenos. Kai sas eipa pro oligoy, se mia allh erwthsh, oti o stoxos olwn aytwn twn prwtoboyliwn poy analambanei kai efarmozei h kybernhsh einai h prostasia, einai h qwrakish ths apasxolhshs. Osoi, dhladh, briskontai se mia qesh ergasias na exoyn, kata to dynaton, ta exeggya oti qa ejakoloyqhsoyn na exoyn ayth thn apasxolhsh. Se ayto akribws katateinei to sxedio gia thn prostasia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Ayth einai h prospaqeia poy ginetai. Me thn ejasfalish reystothtas pros thn ellhnikh oikonomia, pros thn ellhnikh koinwnia, ejasfalizontai taytoxrona kai oi qeseis ergasias.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Me sygxwreite poy qa epimeinw.

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Dieykrinistika me ta osa eipate, sthn oysia poios apo toys dyo dinei th maxh gia thn anergia; H kybernhsh poy ekproswpos ths eiste eseis h h k. Petralia poy mila gia apolyseis;

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw tis akribeis dhlwseis ths Ypoyrgoy, alla einai asfalws ypokritiko na kanei kapoios oti den yparxei o kindynos ths anergias mesa sth dieqnh krish thn opoia dierxomeqa to teleytaio diasthma kai h opoia den exei oloklhrwqei. To endexomeno ths anergias to antimetwpizoyn oles oi eyrwpaikes xwres. Kai gi` ayto akribws - -epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora kai eimai bebaios oti ayto einai kai to nohma twn oswn moy lete oti eipe h k. Petralia- - prospaqeia olwn mas einai na qwrakisoyme etsi thn oikonomia, wste na qwrakistoyn, na ejasfalistoyn, na diasfalistoyn oi qeseis ergasias.

TSIOYFOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, apo xqes yparxei mia plhroforia, h opoia kykloforei fantazomai oxi mono sta dhmosiografika grafeia, alla kai sta dika sas, to akoyte fantazomai kai eseis, oti h kybernhsh ejetazei kai skopeyei, kata to ispaniko protypo, na efarmosei kai edw to pagwma twn dosewn, ths ejyphrethshs, telos pantwn, twn stegastikwn daneiwn, piqanws stoys xamhlomisqoys kai toys xamhlosyntajioyxoys. Epibebaiwnete aytes tis plhrofories;

ANTWNAROS: Eteqh akribws h idia erwthsh, xqes, ston k. Alogoskoyfh...

TSIOYFOS: Den to hjera oti teqhke.

ANTWNAROS: ... kata th diarkeia ths synenteyjhs poy edwse. Exei dwsei sygkekrimenh apanthsh. Sthn apanthsh ayth sas parapempw.

TSIOYFOS: Mporeite na mas peite;

ANTWNAROS: Sthn apanthsh ayth sas parapempw.

KAKALHS: O k. Alogoskoyfhs eipe oti ean stamathsoyn na plhrwnontai oi doseis twn stegastikwn daneiwn twn anergwn kai twn allwn xamhlomisqwn, qa katarreysei to pistwtiko systhma. Ayth htan h apanthsh poy edwse. Dhladh, einai adynaton sthn kybernhsh na energei kai na skeptetai san megalotrapeziths;

ANTWNAROS: Ekeino to opoio endiaferei thn kybernhsh einai na leitoyrgei h oikonomia pros ofelos ths koinwnias. Egw gnwrizw thn apanthsh thn opoia exei dwsei o k. Alogoskoyfhs. Einai sth selida 7 twn apomagnhtofwnhmenwn dhlwsewn toy. Parakalw na th diabasete.

KAKALHS: Thn exw diabasei.

ANTWNAROS: Qelete na sas th diabasw;

KAKALHS: Oxi, egw den qelw. Sas eipa poia einai h apanthsh.

ANTWNAROS: Loipon, erwthqhke o k. Alogoskoyfhs kai eipe: ``Ekane mia poly epilektikh anastolh plhrwmwn gia neoys anergoys h Ispania. Giati h Ispania, opws gnwrizete, antimetwpizei thn prooptikh mias terastias ayjhshs ths anergias, symplhrwnw egw, poy den exei kamia sxesh me th dikh mas anergia. Einai diplasia, an oxi yperdiplasia. Qa doyme kai emeis, sta plaisia toy dikoy mas sxedioy me tis eggyhseis poy parexoyme, ti ejaireseis mporoyme na kanoyme. Wstoso, genikeymenh ejairesh, opws ayth poy akoysthke, den mporei na ginei. Katalabainete oti ayth qa odhgoyse se katarreysh toy pistwtikoy systhmatos - -enos pistwtikoy systhmatos poy shmera xreiazetai kefalaia- - kai kat` epektash ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Yparxoyn kapoioi, bebaiws, oi opoioi ependyoyn kai kanoyn shmantikh kampania gia thn katarreysh toy ellhnikoy pistwtikoy systhmatos, prokeimenoy na epwfelhqoyn oi idioi. Emeis, ayto den prokeitai na to epitrecoyme. H syrriknwsh toy pistwtikoy systhmatos shmainei syrriknwsh ths oikonomias kai den qa epitrecoyme na yparjoyn tetoies diadikasies. Emeis proxwroyme to sxedio gia thn enisxysh ths reystothtas, akribws gia na bohqhsoyme thn oikonomia''. Prokeitai gia mia apanthsh h opoia exei apolyth synoxh.

MPOTSARHS: Pera apo th megalh ayjhsh twn epitokiwn sto plastiko xrhma, exoyme kaqhmerina pleisthriasmoys gia 700, 800 kai 1.000 eyrw. Paranomoyn, dhladh, oi trapezes. Skeftetai h kybernhsh na balei freno se ayth thn paranomia, na mhn xanei o kosmos ta spitia toy;

ANTWNAROS: Efoson ginetai ayto to opoio moy lete kai den throyntai oi diadikasies, oi aysthres diadikasies poy h shmerinh kybernhsh qespise, prokeimenoy na prostateyqoyn oi daneiolhptes, oles aytes oi symperifores, opws katalabainete, antibainoyn to nomo. Kai den einai tetoies symperifores apodektes apo kanenan kai fysika oyte apo thn kybernhsh.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Qa sas paw se ena allo qema. Xqes to brady, o Arxiepiskopos Aqhnwn kai Pashs Ellados Ierwnymos, se omilia toy, eipe anoixta oti gia to zhthma toy xwrismoy metajy kratoys-ekklhsias, mallon afhse anoikto to endexomeno na ginei dhmochfisma, legontas malista oti osoi diafwnoyn qa paroyn ekei to maqhma toys. Anarwtiemai an yparxei kapoia sxetikh syzhthsh me kapoio diaylo ths kybernhshs kai deyteron, pws topoqeteitai h kybernhsh panw se ayto to endexomeno;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio gia dhlwseis toy Arxiepiskopoy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate prohgoymenws se erwthseis twn synadelfwn, oti h symmetoxh sto sxedio ths eggyhshs twn trapezwn einai eqelontikh. Wstoso, omws, eipate dyo fores oti se kamia periptwsh den mporei na metakylistei to kostos ths mh symmetoxhs stoys katanalwtes.

ANTWNAROS: Malista.

PALAIOLOGOS: Yparxei kapoio sxedio; Pws mporei na ginei ayto; Giati den mas exete anaferei thn yparjh enos sygkekrimenoy sxedioy;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati parapanw apo ayta poy eipa.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, alla ayto qelw na pw. Ayto to pragma poy lete oti eiste bebaios, ekfrasthkate kai eipate oti eiste bebaios oti telika to kostos, mallon h meiwsh sto qema twn epitokiwn, telika qa metakylistei kai stoys katanalwtes, dhladh qa eynohqoyn kai oi katanalwtes. Eipate: Eimai bebaios oti sth diaxeirish twn poswn poy (den akoygetai) qa metakylistoyn kai stoys Ellhnes katanalwtes.

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa ayto akribws.

PALAIOLOGOS: Alla ti eipate; Se erwthsh toy k. Armenh sygkekrimena.

ANTWNAROS: Milame gia dyo entelws diaforetika pragmata. Sas eipa oti osoi den metasxoyn sto sxedio kata dikh toys epilogh, den qa exoyn kamia dikaiologia na metakylhsoyn to kostos ayths ths epiloghs toys stoys Ellhnes katanalwtes kai stoys polites. Kai eipa epishs oti osoi metasxoyn qa prepei na einai apolyta bebaioi oti to ofelos to opoio qa exoyn, dhladh ta xrhmata ta opoia qa paroyn me tis kratikes eggyhseis - -sas exw ejhghsei polles fores ti perilambanei to sxedio ayto sth diatrapezikh agora- - qa prepei ayta ta xrhmata na ta dioxeteysoyn ekei poy problepei to sxedio. Dhladh, pros ofelos twn katanalwtwn, twn Ellhnwn politwn, twn mikromesaiwn, oswn exoyn anagkh apo stegastika daneia.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den mas eipate omws, oti sthn periptwsh poy den qa symmetasxoyn, pws qa epiteyxqei ayto; Efoson blepoyme thn arnhsh. Ki eseis apla ekfrazete mia bebaiothta, endexomenws ws eyxh, den jerw, ws systash h ws ekklhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Kante moy thn erwthsh gia na katalabw ti qelete na moy peite.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ma sas eipa. Pws qa epiteyxqei ayto poy lete eseis, to na mh metakylistei to kostos stoys katanalwtes, apo th stigmh poy den qa symmetasxoyn orismenes trapezes sto sxedio to diko sas;

ANTWNAROS: Mporeite, moy fainetai, na balete to myalo sas na doylecei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Malista. Eyxaristw poly.

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, einai ikanopoihmenh h kybernhsh apo ta osa eipe sxetika me ta perioysiaka toy stoixeia o k. Roysopoylos, otan o ALPHA apokalyptei oti stis synenteyjeis milhse gia sygkekrimena tetragwnika poy briskontai sthn katoxh toy, milame gia ta spitia toy kai sto ``poqen esxes'' toy yparxei mia poly megalyterh kai diaforetikh eikona.

ANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na pw gia tis synenteyjeis to exw pei.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Prokeitai gia boyleyth toy kommatos sas.

ANTWNAROS: Akribws. Den sxoliazw, opws gnwrizete, pote dhlwseis boyleytwn.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Milame gia th dhlwsh toy ``poqen esxes'' toy.

ANTWNAROS: H dhlwsh toy ``poqen esxes'' oswn exoyn ypoxrewsh na ypobaloyn (tetoia dhlwsh) mesa sta plaisia ths leitoyrgias toy Koinoboylioy, ereynatai apo sygkekrimenh yphresia ths Boylhs. Elegxontai ta ``poqen esxes''.

TSIOYFOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, opws maqainoyme shmera to prwi, xqes arga to brady kateqese sthn Ejetastikh Epitroph h synadelfos mas k. Mpoygatsoy, kai anamesa sta alla ap` o,ti akoysa h idia shmera na leei, kateqese oti toso o k. Tsitoyridhs, oso kai o k. Doykas ths ekmysthreythkan oti eixan dexqei entoles apo to Majimoy, prokeimenoy na proxwrhsoyn stis prajeis twn antallagwn me th Monh Batopaidioy. Einai mia kataqesh epishmh, fantazomai oti qa exoyn hdh bgei kai ta praktika ths Boylhs, mh amfisbhthsimh fantazomai ws pros to ti katateqhke. Qa hqela ena sxolio sas.

ANTWNAROS: Ta exete dei ta praktika;

TSIOYFOS: Oxi, alla akoysa thn idia. Fantazomai oti den mporei na exei kataqesei alla kai alla na leei shmera to prwi sta radiofwna h idia.

ANTWNAROS: En pash periptwsei, opws gnwrizete, den sxoliazw thn ereyna h opoia afenos brisketai se ejelijh apo thn Ejetastikh Epitroph ths Boylhs kai afeteroy enwpion ths Dikaiosynhs.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Se erwthsh toy k. Mpotsarh prin gia toys pleisthriasmoys, poy aforoyn mikra posa, eipate oti an ginetai kati tetoio oi trapezes paranomoyn, oses to kanoyn, an qymamai kala.

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Wraia, paranomoyn. Mporeite na mas peite kai pws timwroyntai; Dhladh eida to qema twn 1800 eyrw poy ebgale h efhmerida TA NEA prin apo liges hmeres, akoysa oti akyrwqhke orqws o pleisthriasmos, alla den akoysa ti kampana efage h en logw trapeza.

ANTWNAROS: Problepontai diadikasies. Parakalw na enhmerwqeite gi` ayto.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, milhsate se synexeia ths erwthshs toy synadelfoy k. Palaiologoy, gia to Tameio Eggyodosias. Fantazomai oti epeidh blepoyme...

ANTWNAROS: Einai to Tameio Eggyodosias Mikrwn kai Poly Mikrwn Epixeirhsewn. Alla, yparxoyn diafora Tameia Eggyodosias.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Malista. To erwthma moy exei ws ejhs: Epeidh fainetai pws oi trapezes, mallon den ta exoyn anagkh ta 28 dis. ths kybernhshs...

ANTWNAROS: Den pairnoyn. Qa sas epanalabw gia mia akomh fora...

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Ma, afhste me na oloklhrwsw...

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. Den mporw na to dexqw. Lete oti oi trapezes exoyn anagkh 28 disekatommyria. H kybernhsh den dinei 28 disekatommyria stis trapezes.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: En pash periptwsei, na qesw to erwthma. Fainetai pws oi trapezes mexri twra, den qa kanoyn xrhsh aytoy toy metroy ths kybernhshs h den qeloyn h den epiqymoyn h den qeloyn na ypokeintai se elegxo poy epakoloyqei meta apo ayth th synergasia, na to poyme etsi. H kybernhsh exei ena sxedio me diafora Tameia Eggyodosias h alla, alloys organismoys, alloys foreis poy mporoyn na dhmioyrghqoyn wste ayto to poso me allo tropo na breqei kai na sthrijei ton mikromesaio h ton daneiolhpth; Dhladh, an oi trapezes oi idies, den kanoyn th xrhsh aytoy toy posoy poy eseis dinete, h kybernhsh exei ena enallaktiko sxedio gia th dhmioyrgia forewn, wste ayto to poso kai xameno na mhn paei kai na paei ekei poy prepei;

ANTWNAROS: Profanws, den eginan safh ta osa exoyme pei o k. Alogoskoyfhs kai egw tis teleytaies ebdomades. Prwton, to nomosxedio ayto poy problepei to sygkekrimeno sxedio den exei kan chfistei. Chfizetai thn allh ebdomada, ap` o,ti gnwrizw, sth Boylh. Synepws den einai qema kan efarmoghs toy ayths ths stigmhs molonoti isxyei, an qymamai kala apo thn hmera ths kataqeshs. Deyteron, exei mia sygkekrimenh, ws pros thn efarmogh, xronikh diarkeia mexri tis prwtes hmeres toy Febroyarioy, telh Ianoyarioy. Biazeste na katalhjete se symperasmata oson afora thn tyxh ayths ths prwtoboylias.

KAKALHS: Den katalaba to kanena sxolio gia thn protash toy Arxiepiskopoy. O Arxiepiskopos kanei sygkekrimenh protash gia na ginei dhmochfisma oson afora to diaxwrismo kratoys  Ekklhsias. Ayto afora thn kybernhsh, thn Politeia, ta kommata bebaia kai prwta ap` ola thn kybernhsh. Se ayto den qa topoqethqei h kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti den sxoliazw topoqethseis toy Arxiepiskopoy.

MPOTSARHS: O k. Tsitoyridhs proxqes, anaferomenos sthn ypoqesh ths Monhs Batopaidioy, emmesws plhn safws, eipe oti ekdiwxqhke apo to Ypoyrgeio Apasxolhshs, dioti den synainese stis epixeirhmatikes drasthriothtes toy hgoymenoy Efraim. Exei kapoio sxolio h kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazw dhlwseis boyleytwn, tis opoies omws qa parakaloysa na tis diabazete prosektika kai na tis apodidete synolika.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, arnhqhkate stis erwthseis twn synadelfwn na apanthsete h na sxoliasete mallon tis thleoptikes emfaniseis toy k. Roysopoyloy, toy prwhn Ypoyrgoy Epikrateias. Toylaxiston, eidate eseis kapoia ek twn synenteyjewn toy k. Roysopoyloy;

ANTWNAROS: Fysika.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kai tis dyo;

ANTWNAROS: Fysika.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ara, den apostasiopoieiste, opws koryfaioi Ypoyrgoi ths kybernhshs.

ANTWNAROS: Egw den exw diapistwsei kati tetoio, opws ayto poy lete eseis.

Sas eyxaristw.

" Ayrio den qa exoyme enhmerwsh, dioti qa eimai me ton Prwqypoyrgo stis Bryjelles. Qa ta poyme jana th Deytera, 10 Noembrioy.

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