Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-09-12

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Paraskeyh, 12 Septembrioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 158434980

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 12 Septembrioy 2008

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na sas rwthsw, an arxise mesa sthn kybernhsh sas jekaqarisma logariasmwn. Kai to lew ayto, giati o k. Meimarakhs oysiastika, xqes, pyrobolhse ton k. Boylgarakh, otan sth synenteyjh toy, ston thleoptiko staqmo ``Mega'', eipe mia seira apo pragmata kai katelhje oti ``egw zw diaforetika''. Se ayto, kai qa synexisw.

ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazw dhlwseis Ypoyrgwn.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Dhladh, den qa sxoliasete to oti ``egw eimai qrhskeyomenos, alla den paw syxna sthn ekklhsia, oyte exw pneymatiko'';

ANTWNAROS: Kanena sxolio.

KOYTRAS: Xqes, kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate oti o k. Boylgarakhs einai Ypoyrgos ths kybernhshs. Exei ypobalei paraithsh, h opoia den exei ginei apodekth;

ANTWNAROS: Den exei allajei kati apo osa sas eipa xqes.

XRISTAKOS: Na perasw se ena paremferes qema, ayto ths antallaghs twn oikopedwn me to Batopedi. Shmera oi efhmerides apokalyptoyn oti oi Ypoyrgoi, oi opoioi tis prohgoymenes hmeres elegan o enas oti ypegrace enas allos - -kai milw gia ton k. Doyka kai ton k. Mpasiako- - shmera fainetai apo ta eggrafa poy paroysiazontai toylaxiston ston Typo oti kai oi dyo exoyn ypogracei sxetikes apofaseis. H erwthsh moy, pera apo to gegonos ths ypografhs kai giati to arnoyntai, einai giati akribws egine ayth h antallagh, giati den to exw dei. Poios einai o logos ayths ths antallaghs twn oikopedwn.

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na mpw se olh ayth thn istoria, h opoia, opws gnwrizete, katopin paraggelias toy Eisaggelea toy Areioy Pagoy, k. Sanida, einai antikeimeno dikastikhs ereynas. Qa hqela, omws, na sas ypenqymisw oti oi Ypoyrgoi - -to eipa xqes kai to epanalambanw kai shmera- - kinhqhkan sta plaisia twn syntagmatikws kaqorismenwn armodiothtwn kai kaqhkontwn ta opoia exoyn. Qa hqela, epishs, na sas pw oti yparxei anakoinwsh ep` aytoy toy qematos, to opoio qijate, toy Yfypoyrgoy k. Doyka, thn opoia parakalw na anagnwsete kai apo thn opoia prokyptei oti den yparxei kati kainoyrgio. Ayto to opoio shmera paroysiazetai ws dhqen apokalych, to eixe anaferei o k. Doykas se enhmerwsh poy eixe kanei pros toys dhmosiografoys thn perasmenh Deytera, 8 Septembrioy. Sas parakalw, loipon, na anatrejete, gia na mh dhmioyrgoyntai, oxi apo esas k. Xristako, alla genikotera, esfalmenes entypwseis.

PALAIOLOGOS: Tote, pws ejhgeite to gegonos oti o k. Doykas, tis teleytaies hmeres, se dhmosies dhlwseis toy, arneitai pws exei balei thn ypografh toy gia thn allagh ths paramikrhs spiqamhs ghs;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa, diabaste thn enhmerwsh thn opoia exei kanei o k. Doykas prin apo arketes hmeres. Kai epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora...

PALAIOLOGOS: Thn exw diabasei kyrie Ekproswpe...

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw, diabaste kai to shmerino deltio Typoy toy k. Doyka. Kai tonizw, gia mia akomh fora, oti kai oi dyo Ypoyrgoi, stoys opoioys ginetai anafora, kinhqhkan sta plaisia twn syntagmatika kaqorismenwn armodiothtwn kai kaqhkontwn, ta opoia exoyn. Ayto allwste prokyptei, me apolyth safhneia, kai apo th dikastikh paraggelia, thn opoia ekane o k. Sanidas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, alla to erwthma moy, ean moy epitrepete, einai allo kyrie Ekproswpe. Den sas rwthsa... Ayto to katalabainw oti kineitai sta plaisia twn armodiothtwn toys. To qema einai allo. Oti o k. Doykas bgainei, sxedon kaqe mera, kai bgazei mia nea anakoinwsh h kanei mia nea dhlwsh, sthn opoia anairei thn prohgoymenh, dhladh anairei ton eayto toy. Ayto einai to erwthma moy.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati perissotero panw se ayto.

PALAIOLOGOS: Dhladh, den to anairei, to gegonos oti th mia leei oti exei ypogracei kai thn allh oti den exei balei thn ypografh toy;

ANTWNAROS: Exw apanthsei. Na parakoloyqhsete, parakalw, olo to syllogismo ton opoio exw kanei.

ARMENHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, symmerizeste thn apoch oti to klima poy diamorfwnetai ton teleytaio kairo, odhgei olo kai pio konta stis kalpes kai fernw kai ws paradeigma, th fraseologia poy xrhsimopoiei kai o arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Blepw oti anebazei toys tonoys. Malista, se mia syzhthsh, feretai na exei pei oti o Prwqypoyrgos gyrna th diakybernhsh ths xwras deka xronia pisw. Aytoi oi ychloi tonoi den proideazoyn, den mporei na mas odhghsoyn sto symperasma oti eimaste olo kai pio konta se prowres ekloges;

ANTWNAROS: Ayto einai ena qema poy profanws, o k. Papandreoy prepei na to lysei me ton k. Shmith, otan anaferetai se deka xronia prin. Giati, prin apo deka xronia, Prwqypoyrgos ths xwras htan o k. Shmiths kai koryfaio melos ths tote kybernhshs, htan o k. Papandreoy. O k. Papandreoy, profanws, ayta qelei na ta jexasei, na ta diagracei apo th mnhmh toy. Oi Ellhnes polites, omws, den jexnoyn se ti deinh katastash briskotan h xwra tote, prin apo deka xronia, me kybernhsh Shmith kai Ypoyrgo ton k. Papandreoy. Kai gi` ayto exoyn empisteytei th diakybernhsh ths xwras, gia deyterh fora mesa se pente xronia, sth shmerinh kybernhsh, sto komma ths Neas Dhmokratias kai ston Prwqypoyrgo Kwsta Karamanlh.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes me epiplhjate...

ANTWNAROS: Egw; Sas parakalw.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Nai, me ton tropo sas. Sas parakalw. Otan sas eipa oti o k. Mixaloliakos emmesa eipe oti den qa katachfisei to arqro 14. H alhqeia einai oti o k. Mixaloliakos ekane dyo topoqethseis. Qa sas tis diabazw gia na mh moy lete oti ta lew kai pali apo to myalo moy. Sth mia, loipon, anefere oti ``qelw na elpizw oti to arqro 14, kyrie Ypoyrge, qa to epanejetasete h qa to aposyrete h qa to beltiwsete''. Eikosi lepta meta, epanerxetai kai leei ``kleinontas legw, qa to chfisw kai ayto to arqro''. Kai sas erwtw: Prokeitai gia mia dixasmenh proswpikothta h yphrje parembash kapoiwn mesa sth Boylh h apo to Megaro Majimoy kai anagkase ton k. Mixaloliako na allajei qesh;

ANTWNAROS: Aplws sas eipa oti yphrxe mia katopinoterh dhlwsh toy k. Mixaloliakoy poy me safhneia eipe oti qa yperchfisei th diatajh. Qa hqela na sas pw, gia mia akomh fora, oti h Koinoboyleytikh Omada ths Neas Dhmokratias exei apoch kai leitoyrgei se plaisio eleyqerias kai Dhmokratias. Oi boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias sthrizoyn taytoxrona me thn chfo toys sth Boylh, alla kai opoy briskontai, to metarryqmistiko programma ths kybernhshs poy ylopoieitai bhma bhma. Den qa prepei, loipon, kaneis na ekplhssetai otan oi boyleytes me parrhsia, eidika sth Boylh, ekfrazoyn tis apoceis toys kai topoqetoyntai synolika. Dioti mia apoch apoteleitai apo polla systatika stoixeia. To PASOK den qa prepei na xrhsimopoiei anoikeies ekfraseis, dioti einai ekeino poy exei synhqisei na exei Koinoboyleytikh Omada me nootropia agelhs kai krinei ej idiwn ta allotria.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Anafereste profanws sto ``tsampa magkas'' poy eipe o k. Benizelos gia ton k. Mixaloliako. Antilambanomai thn apanthsh sas, wstoso to erwthma paramenei. Giati o k. Mixaloliakos eipe stis 13:00 ayta poy eipe kai stis 13:20 eipe diaforetika, dinontas to dikaiwma ston k. Benizelo na ton xarakthrisei opws ton xarakthrise.

ANTWNAROS: Kaneis, nomizw, mesa sta plaisia ths Koinoboyleytikhs Dhmokratias den exei to dikaiwma na xarakthrizei me anoikeia logia kai prosblhtikoys xarakthrismoys tis apoceis allwn, oi opoioi topoqetoyntai me parrhsia apo to bhma ths Boylhs.

KATSABOY: Prin apo ligo, eixame mia plhroforia oti o k. Tragakhs phge sto Megaro Majimoy. Hqela na rwthsw an epibebaiwnetai apo esas. Kai an nai, ti synanthseis eixe; Kai to deytero, an yparxei qema paraithshs toy k. Boylgarakh.

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka prin apo ligo. Sas eipa oti den exw na prosqesw, den exw na allajw tipote se osa eipa xqes.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Sto prwto skelos;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati parapanw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Egine synanthsh h den egine;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati.

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi, giati akoygetai pws synanthqhke o k. Tragakhs me ton Prwqypoyrgo, alla mphke sto Megaro Majimoy apo thn pisw porta. Ayto leei to reportaz.

ANTWNAROS: To Megaro Majimoy exei dyo eisodoys, opws gnwrizete.

PALAIOLOGOS: O k. Tragakhs synhqws mpainei apo thn kyria eisodo, omws, kaqoson eimai polla xronia reporter.

ANTWNAROS: As mhn apodidoyme se tetoies shmeiologikes leptomereies megalyterh shmasia apo ayth poy pragmatika exoyn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den mphke, dhladh, me thn idiothta toy Grammatea ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas o k. Tragakhs sto Megaro Majimoy;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Tragakhs einai palaio melos toy ellhnikoy Koinoboylioy, einai palaio stelexos toy kommatos ths Neas Dhmokratias kai opws gnwrizete, exei sygkekrimenh koryfaia qesh sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada.

PALAIOLOGOS: Giati yparxoyn kai synanthseis toy k. Tragakh poy den anakoinwnontai me ton Prwqypoyrgo;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw kati.

KOYTRAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, anhsyxei h kybernhsh gia tis dhmoskophseis kai th meiwsh ths calidas me to PASOK; Kai to lew ayto, giati mia nea dhmoskophsh sto SKAI, xqes brady, ths Public Issue, deixnei pws h diafora apo 3,5 monades phge stis 1,5 kai pws to panw apo 7 stoys 10 polites qewroyn pws h xwra einai se laqos kateyqynsh.

ANTWNAROS: Den qa pw kati diaforetiko apo ayta poy exw pei, synhqws, gia tis dhmoskophseis. Sas einai gnwsta.

XRISTAKOS: Na perasw se ena allo qema qelw, to opoio einai kai ayto epikairo kai poly shmantiko kai afora stis ejelijeis sto Skopiano. Yparxei apo pleyras kybernhshs kapoia kateyqynsh se o,ti afora tis epidiwjeis, opws fainetai kai dhmosiografika to lew egw ayto ``epidiwjeis'', toy k. Nimits, ektos apo to qema ths onomasias poy toy parexetai ws dikaiwma na syzhta ws mesolabhths, na syzhtoyntai kai alla qemata eqnotika h diabathriwn h otidhpote allo, na gnwrizoyme;

ANTWNAROS: H qesh mas einai safhs, jekaqarh kai den exei allajei. Kai h entolh thn opoia exei parei o k. Nimits apo ton Geniko Grammatea toy Organismoy Hnwmenwn Eqnwn einai epishs safhs. Se ayta ta plaisia kinoymeqa. Kata ta alla, sas parapempw stis dhlwseis poy ekane, meta th synanthsh, o Ellhnas diapragmateyths, o presbhs k. Basilakhs.

XRISTAKOS: Mporeite na mas epanalabete, epeidh gnwrizete kai liga perissotera ep` aytoy, poia einai h dikaiodosia toy k. Nimits kai h entolh, gia na akribologw, poy exei labei apo ton Organismo Hnwmenwn Eqnwn ws diapragmateyths...

ANTWNAROS: Den exw, ayth th stigmh, to keimeno mprosta moy, alla einai safes ayto to opoio eipe, molis thn Kyriakh se sxetikh erwthsh poy toy ypeblhqh, o Prwqypoyrgos. To exei pei, epishs, polles fores to teleytaio diasthma, h Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn. Einai h prospaqeia gia thn ejeyresh enos amoibaia apodektoy onomatos, me gewgrafiko prosdiorismo, poy qa isxyei enanti pantwn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, me aformh tis dhlwseis h tis feromenes kat` esas dhlwseis poy ekane koryfaios Ypoyrgos, meta to peras toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, pisteyete oti yparxei problhma me ayton ton anwnymo Ypoyrgo, telos pantwn, poy den ekane dhlwseis dhmosia;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei h topoqethsh poy ekana, xqes.

PALAIOLOGOS: To rwtaw, giati eipate oti den exei allajei tipota. Wstoso, omws, o k. Mixaloliakos, xqes, eqese hqiko qema paramonhs toy en logw Ypoyrgoy sthn kybernhsh meta tis dhlwseis poy ekane, estw kai anwnymws.

ANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na pw, to eipa.

MPOTSARHS: Na epanelqoyme ligo ston k. Boylgarakh; Sas anhsyxei kaqoloy to oti syggenika toy proswpa bghkan se kentriko deltio eidhsewn kai epeteqhsan kata pantwn kai kyriws kata dhmosiografwn;

ANTWNAROS: Sas parakalw. Den anaferomai se topoqethseis allwn proswpwn, se kamia periptwsh.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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