Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-09-09

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 9 Septembrioy 2008

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 9 Septembrioy 2008

Xairete.

Ayrio, stis 10.00, qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Dikaiosynhs (epilogh dikastwn), sto Grafeio toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto Megaro ths Boylhs.

Stis 11.00, sth Boylh, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Opws gnwrizete, oi epiloges aytes xreiazontai epikyrwsh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KAKALHS: H Kybernhtikh Epitroph me ti qema qa asxolhqei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Me to idio. Qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Dikaiosynhs.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h royketa poy ektojeyse o k. Byrwn Polydwras, brhke to stoxo ths;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Egw den eklambanw, opws eseis xarakthrizete, tis dhmosies topoqethseis stelexwn ths Neas Dhmokratias. Epifanwn stelexwn qa elega sthn prokeimenh periptwsh. Qewrw oti o kaqenas ekfrazei th gnwmh toy, exontas pantote ton idio stoxo: Th beltiwsh olwn mas, ws kybernhsh.

XRHSTAKOS: Yparxoyn, opws grafei o boyleyths, ``golden boys'' sthn kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa kanw allo sxolio. Ekana hdh ena kai opws gnwrizete, spaniws kanw sxolia.

RABANOS: Pisteyete kyrie Ypoyrge, oti eishlqe to kybernon komma se fash eswkommatikhs krishs; Amfisbhteitai pleon o Prwqypoyrgos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

TSIOYFOS: Den sas anhsyxei to gegonos oti enw o Prwqypoyrgos prospaqhse thn Kyriakh, peran twn allwn, na periorisei ayth thn eswkommatikh moyrmoyra, gkrinia, kritikh, peste to opws qelete, ayth prin perasei ena eikositetrawro, oxi mono entaqhke, alla blepoyme pleon na antidroyn kai stelexh ta opoia mexri twra den htan s` aytoys toys synhqeis diafwnoyntes, antartes, opws qelete peste toys;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Isxyei ayto to opoio eipa sthn arxh, to eipa kai xqes, gia tis dhlwseis, tis dhmosies topoqethseis stelexwn.

KAPRALOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, hqela na rwthsw, pote qa jekinhsei h diadikasia apeleyqerwshs twn kleistwn epaggelmatwn. Yparxei kapoio sygkekrimeno xronodiagramma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw kati sygkekrimeno na sas pw. Mporw na epikoinwnhsw me ta synarmodia ypoyrgeia kai isws ayrio na exw kati pio sygkekrimeno.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: O k. Tragakhs eipe xqes oti qa yparjei problhma me toys diafwnoyntes, ean kapoios ap` aytoys katachfisei kapoio shmantiko nomosxedio. Mhpws katebazei ton phxh h kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa apanthsw. Gia allo qema to eipe o Prwqypoyrgos, alla me paremferh tropo.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: O k. Tragakhs to eipe.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Lew, qa apanthsw  parenqetika gia allo qema to eipe o Prwqypoyrgos- alla me paremferh tropo: Oyte anebasame oyte katebasame pote ton phxh. Toylaxiston ayto den exei symbei apo ton Prwqypoyrgo h apo ton Kybernhtiko Ekproswpo. O Grammateas ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ekfrazei thn apoch thn opoia moy anaferate. Den qa kanw kapoio peraiterw sxolio.

TERZHS: Sto qema toy k. Boylgarakh qelw na epanelqw. Me dedomeno oti edwse tis teleytaies ejhghseis, tis mones ejhghseis, thn Pempth, se thleoptikes toy synenteyjeis kai yphrje sth synexeia kai mesw ths ``Kaqhmerinhs'', mia seira apokalycewn gia tis epixeirhmatikes draseis, hqela na rwthsw safws: Ean h kybernhsh krinei ws epixeirhmatikh drasthriothta, en energeia ypoyrgos na systhnei etaireia, na pairnei daneio, na agorazei ena akinhto, to opoio ekmetalleyetai kai en synexeia  ontas epishs ypoyrgos, xwris na exei arqei to asymbibasto- na poyla thn etaireia kai mazi to akinhto.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exoyn apanthqei kai ayta ta erwthmata poy qesate. Den exw na pw tipote perissotero.

TERZHS: Afoy exoyn apanthqei kai exete anaferqei kai sto ``poqen esxes'' toy k. Boylgarakh, qelw na epanelqw sto ejhs: Einai to idio, kata thn apoch sas, na dhlwnetai ena akinhto antikeimenikhs ajias 900.000 eyrw, agoraias piqanon gyrw sta 3,5 ekatommyria eyrw  kata tis ektimhseis anqrwpwn ths agoras- to opoio den dhlwnei o k. Boylgarakhs, antiqetws dhlwnei to 50% mias epixeirhshs ajias 18.000 eyrw. Antikaqistwntai, loipon, kapoia ekatommyria, me 9.000 eyrw poy einai h symmetoxh toy sthn epixeirhsh. Ayto einai qemito, kata thn apoch sas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa mpw sth logikh ths erwthshs. Th sebomai. Egw qa sas pw oti o k. Boylgarakhs exei dwsei o idios ejhghseis. Den exw na prosqesw tipote perissotero.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Xqes yphrjan dhmoskophseis se dyo thleoptika diktya, sxetika me thn emfanish toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Qessalonikh. Oi analyseis poy eginan, elegan oti gia prwth fora mporei na dhmioyrghqei problhma sthn kybernhsh, dedomenoy oti yparxei entonh skandalologia kai poly sobara oikonomika problhmata. Kai gia prwth fora oi dhmoskophseis aytes edeixnan oti o kosmos arxizei na syndyazei ayta ta dyo. Sas fobizei ayth h diapistwsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti kai xqes, alla kai thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, me aformh mia seira dhmoskophsewn poy eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas, ekana dhmosia topoqethsh. Qa mporoysa na thn epanalabw kai shmera, sas lew omws oti isxyei sto akeraio.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Oson afora th Monh Batopedioy. O k. Sanidas xqes, eishghqhke mia seira apo pragmata  twra hdh einai gnwsta, ta gnwrizete- kai oysiastika eipe se o,ti afora th Bistwnida einai akyrh h apofash kai oti h Monh Batopedioy qa prepei na epistrecei pisw kai ta oikopeda kai ta xrhmata. Malista, o k. Sanidas proxwrhse kai milhse gia paraplanhqentes ypoyrgoys. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti den sxoliazw pote dikastikes apofaseis kai dikastikes energeies. Den qa allajw apoch ws pros ayto. Den prokeitai dhladh na kanw kanena sxolio gia tis dikastikes apofaseis h tis dikastikes energeies kai en prokeimenw gia dikastikh energeia toy Eisaggelea toy Areioy Pagoy. Anamenoyme apo th Dikaiosynh na rijei thn idiaiterh matia ths panw se ayto to qema kai na dwsei th lysh se ena zhthma to opoio apasxolei tis teleytaies hmeres thn koinh gnwmh sthn Ellada.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Na sas rwthsw kati;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Parakalw.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Meta apo afeleis boyleytes, exoyme kai paraplanhqentes ypoyrgoys. Mhpws einai ligo epikindyno ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti mpainete se ena nomiko oro dhmioyrgwntas allh entypwsh apo ayth poy pragmatika dinei h dikastikh paraggelia. Epanalambanw oti den sxoliazw. Epeidh epimenete sto qema twn ypoyrgwn, xwris na sxoliazw kaqoloy ta osa anaferontai, giati den to exw kanei pote kai den qa to kanw, antiqetws me thn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh poy kata to dokoyn qewrei oti mia dikastikh apofash, mia dikastikh energeia thn boleyei h oxi kai sxoliazei yper an qewrei oti th boleyei h katakeraynwnei proswpika dikastes kai toys spilwnei stis syneidhseis kai stis ypolhceis toy kosmoy. Qa kanw mia anafora ws pros to qema twn ypoyrgwn, peran apo ta osa parhggeile xqes dikastika o Eisaggeleas toy Areioy Pagoy kai qa pw oti oi ypoyrgoi enhrghsan me bash to Syntagma. Sto arqro 100 a toy Syntagmatos anaferetai ti akribws einai to Nomiko Symboylio toy Kratoys. Zhthsan, loipon, apo to Nomiko Symboylio toy Kratoys, to opoio apotelei ton symboylo kaqe ypoyrgoy, gnwmodothseis. Oi gnwmodothseis aytes, efoson eginan apo to Nomiko Symboylio toy Kratoys -se mia periptwsh nomizw malista o tote yfypoyrgos anepemce th gnwmodothsh kai phre kai nea gnwmodothsh- ekanan ayto to opoio epibalei to kaqhkon toys etsi opws perigrafetai, epanalambanw, sto Syntagma, enhrghsan dhladh sto plaisio twn armodiothtwn kai twn kaqhkontwn toys. Ayto nomizw prepei na einai safes gia toys ypoyrgoys. Kai ayto perigrafetai apo ta osa diapistwsa diabazontas shmera apo th dikastikh paraggelia me poly safh tropo.

PALAIOLOGOS: Prohgoymenws erwthqhkate ean yparxei h aisqhsh sthn kybernhsh oti amfisbhtoyntai oi prwqypoyrgikes epiloges kai apanthsate arnhtika. Tote, se ti synistatai oi parembaseis twn apokaloymenwn ``baronwn'' toy kommatos, twn istorikwn stelexwn, qa elega egw, opws toy k. Ebert, toy k. Kefalogiannh kai toy k. Giannh Barbitsiwth, oi opoioi to teleytaio diasthma epimenoyn me dhmosies dhlwseis toys kai protrepoyn ton Prwqypoyrgo ``na parei kefalia'', enw karfwnoyn kai ton k. Boylgarakh, se sxesh me tis drasthriothtes toy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Moy zhtate na kanw ermhneia, enw exw kanei mia topoqethsh h opoia einai basikh kai isxyei. Den qa kanw peraiterw ermhneia. Egw eipa poia pisteyw oti einai h kinhthrios dynamh. Den blepw tipote allo pisw apo ayto. Qewrw oti oi opoies parathrhseis, dhmosies parembaseis ginontai, ginontai gia to logo poy sas eipa prohgoymenws. Den qa allajw apoch.

KAKALHS: Eipate prohgoymenws oti den sxoliazete dikastikes energeies h apofaseis, wstoso speysate na sthrijete ton isxyrismo toy k. Sanida peri paraplanhqentwn ypoyrgwn. Prokalei entypwsh, omws, to ejhs: O k. Sanidas den einai h prwth fora poy speydei na aqwwsei, na jeplynei mallon politikes eyqynes, th stigmh poy den exei akoma oloklhrwqei h dikastikh ereyna. Dhladh, thn prohgoymenh fora me th SIEMENS pali eixe bgei kai eixe pei oti den yparxoyn politikes eyqynes. Twra, janabgainei protoy kan oloklhrwqei h ereyna kai leei pali, den yparxoyn politikes eyqynes, einai paraplanhqentes oi ypoyrgoi. O rolos toy k. Sanida einai telika na jeplenei tis politikes eyqynes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exete to dikaiwma ths apochs sas. Diafwnw teleiws me ayth thn apoch, otan anaferetai se anwtato dikastiko leitoyrgo, opws o eisaggeleas toy Areioy Pagoy. Thn apoch ayth th gnwrizete para poly kala ws apoch ths Neas Dhmokratias, eite einai sthn kybernhsh, eite htan sthn antipoliteysh, diaxronika exoyme ton idio sebasmo stoys qesmoys. Den epitiqemeqa enantion twn qesmwn. Qewroyme oti h Dikaiosynh, se kaqe qema sto opoio epilambanetai, odhgei ta pragmata sthn alhqeia. Ayth einai h apoch mas. Apo aythn den prokeitai na apostoyme, opoia sxolia kai an akoystoyn, apo opoiadhpote pleyra kai an akoystoyn, eite einai politikh pleyra, eite dhmosiografikh, enantion leitoyrgwn ths Dikaiosynhs. Ekana mia epishmansh, h opoia den apotelei ejairesh apo ton kanona  kai to epanalambanw ayto- se o,ti afora toys ypoyrgoys, me aformh to sxolio ths k. Kalogeropoyloy, to opoio qewrhsa apajiwtiko gia thn ypostash twn ypoyrgwn. Otan malista  epanalambanw- leitoyrghsan sto plaisio twn armodiothtwn kai twn kaqhkontwn toys.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas peite mia ypoqesh, ena skandalo to opoio h Dikaiosynh exei ferei se peras kai exei lamcei h alhqeia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Afoy zhtate mia, qa sas pw to paradikastiko kyklwma. Qa sas pw oti oxi aplws elamce h alhqeia, alla mphkan kai epiorkoi dikastes sth fylakh. Kai einai deigma ths qelhshs ths Dikaiosynhs na proxwrhsei se kaqarsh akomh kai sto idio to swma ths Dikaiosynhs, alla kai ths politikhs boylhshs me thn opoia kinhqhke apo thn prwth hmera ayth h kybernhsh.

KAKALHS: Kapoia allh ypoqesh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Mexri poses qelete;

PALAIOLOGOS: An kai erwthqhkate, prohgoymenws, me aformh to arqro toy k. Polydwra, egw qa kanw mia allh erwthsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Omws, sto idio qema.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ej aformhs, omws, ths parembashs toy k. Polydwra. Exei thn aisqhsh h kybernhsh oti einai omhros ths isxnhs pleiochfias twn 152 boyleytwn h twn antartwn; Twn diafwnoyntwn, qa elega egw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai me diaforetika logia h diatypwsh poy egine se erwthsh pros ton Prwqypoyrgo sth Qessalonikh. Sas apantw me ta idia logia poy apanthse o Prwqypoyrgos sth Qessalonikh. Den qa ta diabasw pali, alla mporeite na anatrejete. Molis proxqes egine h synenteyjh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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