Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-07-28

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 28 Ioylioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 150539479

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 28 Ioylioy 2008

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

Ayrio, Trith 29 Ioylioy, stis 11:00, qa synedriasei, sto Megaro Majimoy, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh, h Kybernhtikh Epitroph me qemata armodiothtas toy Ypoyrgeioy Periballontos Xwrotajias kai Dhmosiwn Ergwn.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, enas apo toys koryfaioys Ypoyrgoys ths kybernhshs, o k. Alogoskoyfhs, yposthrije oti gia na proxwrhsoyn shmantikes metarryqmiseis sth xwra, an den exei prokycei aytodynamh kybernhsh apo tis ekloges, qa mporoysan na ginoyn mono me synergasia twn dyo megalwn kommatwn. Symmerizetai h kybernhsh aytes tis apoceis;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Alogoskoyfhs erwthqhke gia ayto to qema, molis prin apo ligo, meta th synergasia toy me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Apanthse me safhneia mhn afhnontas kanena periqwrio gia paranohsh twn oswn eipe. Allwste, jerete oti kai gi` ayta ta qemata exoyme topoqethqei  -kai o k. Roysopoylos kai egw me jekaqaro tropo. Den exw kati allo na pw.

KAKALHS: Sth bash ths dhlwshs toy k. Alogoskoyfh den yparxei h diapistwsh oti den yparxei kamia sobarh diafora politikhs metajy PASOK kai Neas Dhmokratias kai malista oson afora thn ylopoihsh megalwn metarryqmisewn kai dyskolwn. Ayto den deixnei thn taytothta politikhs anamesa sta dyo kommata; Giati na perimenete meta tis ekloges kai na mhn epishmopoihsete apo twra th synergasia;

ANTWNAROS: Ermhneyete tis dhlwseis toy Ypoyrgoy Oikonomias kata to dokoyn, me tropo o opoios den exei kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Allwste, oi Ellhnes polites jeroyn me apolyth safhneia kai me jekaqaro myalo, poies einai oi diafores mas me alla kommata. Gi` ayto akribws mas exoyn empisteyqei gia deyterh tetraetia, poly prosfata, ton perasmeno Septembrh, th diakybernhsh ths xwras.

PALAIOLOGOS: Tote gia poio logo o k. Alogoskoyfhs epikalesthke mono, apokleistika, endexomenh synergasia ths Neas Dhmokratias me to PASOK, prokeimenoy, opws eipe, na analaboyn apo koinoy to kostos twn metarryqmisewn h opws qa elega egw twn epwdynwn epilogwn;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Alogoskoyfhs topoqethqhke me poly jekaqaro tropo. Parakalw na mhn apomonwnete deytereyoyses fraseis h tmhmata ths dhlwshs thn opoia ekane. H Nea Dhmokratia, eipe o k. Alogoskoyfhs, exei thn entolh kai qa synexisei na kybernaei th xwra efarmozontas to metarryqmistiko ths ergo gia to opoio exei parei thn entolh toy ellhnikoy laoy.

KOTTARIDHS: Symfwneite oti to dikaiwma ths eleyqerhs gnwmhs kai chfoy toy boyleyth einai adiapragmateyto, opws yposthrizei o k. Polydwras;

ANTWNAROS: Exoyme topoqethqei se ayto to qema polles fores. Den exei allajei kati se osa exw pei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa hqela na epanelqw sto qema ths synergasias para to oti eipate oti einai deytereyoysas shmasias.

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa ayto.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ayto eipate kapoia stigmh.

ANTWNAROS: Eipa oti apomonwnete deytereyoyses fraseis. Den eipa oti einai deytereyoysas shmasias.

PALAIOLOGOS: Deytereyoyses fraseis ta peri synergasias mono me to PASOK se periptwsh poy yparxei eklogiko adiejodo;

ANTWNAROS: Sas parakalw para poly na mhn diastrefete ayta ta opoia lew. Eipa na diabasete synolika th dhlwsh toy k. Alogoskoyfh, h opoia den afhnei kanena periqwrio gia amfisbhthsh h alles ermhneies. Topoqethqhke, allwste, shmera o k. Alogoskoyfhs kai to pragma einai jekaqaro.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh eipate oti diastrefw tis dhlwseis toy k. Alogoskoyfh kai moy fainetai pws den eimai o monos, an moy epitrepete. Einai kai ta stelexh ths Neas Dhmokratias. Kai malista kapoia apo ayta, opws o k. Manwlhs, kathgoroyn ton k. Alogoskoyfh gia ``httopaqeia'', epeidh espeyse na kanei aytes tis dhlwseis, tis opoies lene oti qa mporoyse na eixe apofygei.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kanena sxolio gia dhlwseis stelexwn.

KAKALHS: Eipate oti den yparxei kanena periqwrio gia amfisbhthsh ths dhlwshs toy k. Alogoskoyfh. Profanws, den katalabe kai o k. Zagoriths.

ANTWNAROS: Anefera th qesh thn opoia exei ekfrasei pera apo kaqe amfisbhthsh h kybernhsh, polles fores, apo ayton edw to xwro.

KAKALHS: Profanws den katalabe kai o k. Zagoriths, o opoios eipe oti einai proswpikh qesh toy k. Alogoskoyfh kai allh einai h kentrikh qesh toy kommatos. Ayto akribws dhlwse o k. Zagoriths xqes. Einai dyo glwsses, dyo diaforetikes...

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio.

KOTTARIDHS: Xqes, o Skopianos Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ekane kai sxetikes dhlwseis, alla esteile kai mia epistolh sthn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, zhtwntas pali sthrijh gia thn anagnwrish ths legomenhs ``Makedonikhs meionothtas'' sthn Ellada. Exete kapoio sxolio;

ANTWNAROS: H Ellada, me thn epistolh toy Prwqypoyrgoy exei topoqethqei me apolyth safhneia se ayto to qema. Den exw na prosqesw kati se prospaqeies xwris prooptikh, tis opoies kanei profanws h allh pleyra gia na ektroxiasei th diadikasia. H diadikasia einai safhs. Diejagetai ypo ta Hnwmena Eqnh kai exei enan kai monadiko stoxo, ena kai monadiko antikeimeno: Thn ejeyresh amoibaia apodekths onomasias gia to sygkekrimeno qema. Kai se ayth th diadikasia, opws gnwrizete, h Ellada metexei qetika, epoikodomhtika, apotelesmatika. Menei na apodeixqei oti kai h allh pleyra mporei kai qelei na kanei to idio.

MPOTSARHS: Anhsyxei h kybernhsh apo tis teleytaies ejelijeis sthn Toyrkia, eidikotera meta th nea bombistikh polynekrh epiqesh poy eixame shmera to prwi;

ANTWNAROS: Oi prajeis bias oi opoies kostizoyn th zwh anqrwpwn kai malista amaxwn, einai apolytws katadikastees. Qa moy epitrecete wstoso gi` ayto to qema na sas pw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn gia mia pio emperistatwmenh topoqethsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Yparxei ena prwtoselido shmera twn ``NEWN'' poy epikaleitai martyria enos meloys ths ``17 Noembrh'', toy k. Tzwrtzatoy, poy leei oti o odhgos ths ``17 Noembrh'' kykloforei eleyqeros. Poia einai h epishmh qesh ths kybernhshs gia ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Gia poio qema;

PALAIOLOGOS: Gia th dhlwsh toy k. Tzwrtzatoy, oti o odhgos ths ``17 Noembrh'' kykloforei eleyqeros en antiqesei me tis diabebaiwseis poy eixan doqei kai exoyn parasxeqei sto parelqon oti ola ta melh ths tromokratikhs organwshs ``17 Noembrh'' exoyn syllhfqei.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio gia dhmosieymata efhmeridwn. Opoios exei stoixeia, den exei para na ta dwsei stis diwktikes Arxes.

KAKALHS: Poios eyqynetai gia thn terastia oikologikh katastrofh sth Rodo; H kybernhsh sthn arxh ths periodoy eixe yposxeqei oti qa efarmosei to dogma ths taxeias antidrashs. Eji meres kaigotan h Rodos xwris na mporesei h kybernhsh. O mhxanismos apodeixqhke allh mia fora na mh mporei na antimetwpisei thn pyrkagia me ayta ta oleqria apotelesmata. Poios eyqynetai gi ayth thn katastrofh;

ANTWNAROS: Gia to qema ayto topoqeteitai ayth th stigmh poy milame o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn o k. Prokophs Paylopoylos, o opoios exei metabei sth Rodo epikefalhs kybernhtikoy klimakioy kai allwn eidikwn, prokeimenoy na enhmerwqei gia th katastash meta thn, opws plhroforoymai, katasbesh ths pyrkagias kai gia ta metra ta opoia protiqetai na labei h kybernhsh gia thn anakoyfish oswn exoyn plhgei kaqws kai thn apokatastash twn daswn, toy topioy sth Rodo.

KAKALHS: (Den akoygetai)... thn apokatastash twn katastrofwn qa exei h kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw. O k. Roymeliwths.

KAKALHS: Dhladh na se ``kacw Giannh moy... ''.

ANTWNAROS: O k. Roymeliwths exei to logo:

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o k. Poypakhs kai o boyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias Giannhs Manwlhs me dhlwseis toys yposthrijan oti ta elleimmata stis DEKO einai ejaitias ths politikhs ths kybernhshs kai ths koinwnikhs politikhs kai oxi ejaitias twn apodoxwn toy proswpikoy. Xarakthrisan adikes tis ryqmiseis poy exoyn ginei. Poio einai to sxolio ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Parapempw sth dhlwsh poy ekane molis o k. Alogoskoyfhs.

FOYRLHS: Egw qa hqela na zhthsw mia dieykrinish gia to qema twn pyrkagiwn giati katalabainw oti to zhthma einai h prolhch kai oti yparxoyn mazikes kataggelies se polles periptwseis pyrkagiwn apo topikoys arxontes, oi opoioi yposthrizoyn oti den exoyn armodiothta oyte gia na kaqarizoyn dash oyte gia na kanoyn antipyrikes zwnes kai oti, en pash periptwsei, to nomoqetiko plaisio den to dieykolynei, den toys to epitrepei. Loipon h kybernhsh qewrei oti einai eparkes gia na ginontai ola ayta, gia na yparxei dhladh prolhch, to nomoqetiko plaisio; Skeftetai oti xreiazetai kamia allagh ep aytoy;

ANTWNAROS: Beltiwseis ginontai panta alla den qa prepei kaneis se mia tetoia katastash h opoia dhmioyrgeitai na prospaqhsei na epirricei, na metakylisei tis opoies armodiothtes, egw den qa elega eyqynes, exei stoys alloys. Opws gnwrizete kai oi topikes koinwnies kai oi topikes Arxes exoyn kai ekeines tis dikes toys armodiothtes stis opoies qa prepei na antapokrinontai.

KAKALHS: Mia apo tis proeklogikes ejaggelies toy Prwqypoyrgoy, otan eixe katebei sto Keratsini, stis 5 Septembrh toy 2007, htan oti gia prwth fora eisagetai h ypoxrewsh texnikoy asfaleias stis ergasies poy ginontai sthn nayphgoepiskeyastikh zwnh, wste na perioristoyn ta ergatika atyxhmata. O Prwqypoyrgos exei sth synexeia apo tote endiaferqei na dei gia thn tyxh ayths ths ejaggelias; An efarmozetai kai giati ftanoyn se ayta ta egklhmata opws to proxqesino;

ANTWNAROS: Qa hqela na sas parakalesw na enhmerwqeite apo to armodio Ypoyrgeio gia to ti exei ginei ta teleytaia xronia. Poies prwtoboylies exoyn lhfqei apo to 2006 kai meta, wste na deite oti h omada ergasias h opoia sygkrothqhke to 2004 se epipedo Genikwn Grammatewn twn emplekomenwn Ypoyrgeiwn, ypo thn proedria toy Genikoy Grammatea Limenwn kai Limenikhs Politikhs, ypebale telikh ekqesh ton Noembrio toy 2006 stoys armodioys Ypoyrgoys me sygkekrimenes protaseis gia thn efarmogh ths politikhs enisxyshs ths nayphgoepiskeyastikhs zwnhs Peramatos. Eimai bebaios oti an apeyqynqeite sto armodio Ypoyrgeio qa sas dwsoyn ta stoixeia gia na diapistwsete oti exoyn ginei sygkekrimena bhmata. Epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora oti einai idiaitera qlibero, oti exasan th zwh toys synanqrwpoi mas se ena atyxhma dysaresto, bary. Alla to giati ftasame se ayto to atyxhma, qa moy epitrecete na pw gia mia akomh fora, oti qa to brei h ereyna. Olos o fakelos, symfwna me thn plhroforhsh thn opoia exw ayth th stigmh, exei paei sthn Eisaggelia Peiraiws. Ekei ginetai, pera apo tis texnikes ereynes poy diejagoyn oi texnikes epitropes kai h dikastikh ereyna gia thn apodosh twn eyqynwn.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, alla apo to 1997 exoyme 36 nekroys sto Perama. Pote h ereyna exei apodwsei eyqynes kai dikaiosynh;

ANTWNAROS: Egw exw empistosynh sthn ellhnikh Dikaiosynh. Qa sas to pw gia mia akomh fora. Antiqeta, profanws, me alloys. Den jerw an perilambanete ton eayto sas stoys alloys. Egw den qa hqela na ton perilabw.

FOYRLHS: Exei dhmosieyqei, an den kanw laqos, h plhroforia, oti thn Pempth o Prwqypoyrgos qa synfagei, qa deipnhsei h qa paraqesei ena geyma se boyleytes h sto synolo ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas. Exete kapoia dieykrinish ep aytoy;

ANTWNAROS: Den antilambanomai giati sas ekplhssei ayto to qema. Kaqe xrono, to kalokairi, toys qerinoys mhnes, o Prwqypoyrgos synantietai me toys boyleytes poy metexoyn sta qerina tmhmata ths Boylhs. Ayto den einai kati kainoyrio.

KAKALHS: Oi ergazomenoi ftaine gia ta elleimmata stis DEKO kai speydei h kybernhsh na katarghsei tis syllogikes symbaseis kai ta dikaiwmata toys kai de ftaine oi diorismenes apo thn idia thn kybernhsh dioikhseis, me tis mizes, tis promhqeies kai tis symbaseis;

ANTWNAROS: Opws sas eipa exei topoqethqei o k. Alogoskoyfhs. Epanerxeste se ena qema gia to opoio aphnthsa pro oligoy. Kaneis den katargei dikaiwmata. Alla prepei ta elleimmata na mhn trofodotoyntai, na mhn kalyptontai apo ta xrhmata me ta opoia symballoyn oi Ellhnes forologoymenoi.

KAKALHS: Oi ergazomenoi ftaine gia ta elleimmata; Ayto sas rwthsa.

ANTWNAROS: O k. Alogoskoyfhs exei dwsei mia poly emperistatwmenh apanthsh.

KOTTARIDHS: Sto deipno toy Prwqypoyrgoy thn Pempth pros toys boyleytes qa einai kai o k. Tatoylhs kalesmenos;

ANTWNAROS: Einai kalesmenoi oi boyleytes oi opoioi metexoyn sta antistoixa tmhmata. Den antilambanomai giati prospaqeite na kanete diaforopoihsh metajy boyleytwn, melwn ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ths Neas Dhmokratias; Den yparxei tetoio qema.

Sas eyxaristw.

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