Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-07-25

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Paraskeyh, 25 Ioylioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 150192157

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 25 Ioylioy 2008

Xairete.

Ekfrazoyme oloi thn odynh mas gia to qlibero symban sth Nayphgoepiskeyastikh Zwnh, sto Perama. Gnwrizete oti exoyn arxisei hdh oi ereynes sxetika me ta aitia toy qliberoy aytoy symbantos kai yparxoyn kai oi prwtes syllhceis twn feromenwn ws ypeyqynwn.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, syxna-pykna, kata takta toylaxiston xronika diasthmata, gia na eimai akribhs, symbainoyn atyxhmata sth Nayphgoepiskeyastikh Zwnh. Telika, arkei h Politeia na ekfrazei odynh h prepei na parqoyn kai orismena drastika metra, etsi wste na stamathsei ayto to kako;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati allo pera apo osa sas eipa. Ekfrazw, gia mia akomh fora, th qlich olwn mas. Ta aitia toy atyxhmatos poy prokalesan thn apwleia zwhs synanqrwpwn mas, qa ta broyn oi armodies yphresies.

KAKALHS: O k. Boylgarakhs ejefrase th lyph toy gia to xamo pente synanqrwpwn. Den jerei h kybernhsh na metraei oyte ta qymata ths efoplistikhs asydosias kai ths politikhs ths;

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete, yphrxe sthn arxh mikroteros ariqmos anqrwpwn poy bebaiwmena eixan xasei th zwh toys kai oi alloi eferonto ws agnooymenoi. Kata th diarkeia toy prwinoy ftasame ston ariqmo poy gnwrizoyme ayth th stigmh kai o opoios, den yparxei kamia amfibolia, oti einai ychlos. O k. Boylgarakhs, opws gnwrizete, eixe synergasia me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Den eixe ekeinh th stigmh sta xeria toy olh th roh twn plhroforiwn. Alla den exei shmasia. Kaqe anqrwpos poy xanei th zwh toy einai mia megalh apwleia.

KAKALHS: Prin mpei, omws, sth synergasia me ton Prwqypoyrgo, htan gnwstos o ariqmos twn qymatwn. Adiaforei kai na enhmerwqei kan o Ypoyrgos gia ta qymata;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa o,ti eixa na pw.

KOTTARIDHS: Stoys synadelfoys twn adikoxamenwn, oi opoioi katebhkan shmera stoys dromoys apo thn aganakthsh, h kybernhsh exei na pei kati;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena apolytws sxolio. Exoyn ginei polla pragmata ola ayta ta xronia. Den yparxei kamia amfibolia oti oi anqrwpoi poy ergazontai stis Nayphgoepiskeyastikes Zwnes, doyleyoyn se dyskoles synqhkes. Prepei prwta na diapistwqoyn ta aitia poy prokalesan ayto to qlibero symban.

KAKALHS: Htan pio sobaro o Ypoyrgos na synanthqei me ton Prwqypoyrgo, para na synanthqei me toys ergates sth Nayphgoepiskeyastikh Zwnh shmera to prwi;

ANTWNAROS: Shmasia exei oti qa ginei endelexhs diereynhsh twn aitiwn toy dystyxhmatos.

PALAIOLOGOS: Se allo qema. O Typos shmera anaferetai stis ayjhseis poy pairnoyn h poy dinoyn stoys eaytoys toys, ean moy epitrepetai h ekfrash, oi dikastikoi kai polloi miloyn oti toys ``xryswnoyn''. Kapoy anaferetai se kapoia efhmerida. Mporeite na moy peite, ean tis ayjhseis twn dikastikwn, oi opoies, opws lene oi plhrofories, einai yperogkes, qa akoloyqhsoyn kai oi ayjhseis stoys boyleytes;

ANTWNAROS: Exete diabasei thn tropologia;

PALAIOLOGOS: Bebaiws. Kai thn tropologia kai ta dhmosieymata.

ANTWNAROS: H tropologia einai safhs sto ti leei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, alla egw qelw na maqw h kybernhsh ti leei.

ANTWNAROS: Den problepetai tetoia ayjhsh gia toys boyleytes.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas peite poios eyqynetai gia to gegonos oti den yphrxe texnikos asfaleias sto ploio h oti den throyntai ta metra ygieinhs kai asfaleias genikotera sthn NAYSH ola ayta ta xronia me apotelesma thn ayjhsh toy ariqmoy twn nekrwn;

ANTWNAROS: Prospaqeite na me odhghsete na kanw sxolia gia qemata poy einai antikeimeno ths ereynas. Den qa to kanw.

KAKALHS: Politika qemata. Den einai qemata poy qa ta brei opoiosdhpote empeirognwmonas. Einai politika qemata gia ta opoia...

ANTWNAROS: Einai qemata ta opoia anaferontai sthn ereyna. H ereyna qa ginei apo toys eidikoys. Den eimai egw o eidikos gia na kanw tetoia ereyna.

PALAIOLOGOS: To xqesino baryshmanto, opws pali lene, ektimoyn oi paragontes, mhnyma toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, apeyqynotan se kapoioys sygkekrimenoys apo thn politikh tajh; Exete thn aisqhsh ayth;

ANTWNAROS: Sas einai gnwsto, kai einai mia qesh thn opoia synexws sas exw diatypwsei: Oti den sxoliazoyme dhlwseis toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. Allwste, gnwrizete oti basikos, kentrikos ajonas ths politikhs ths shmerinhs kybernhshs einai h apotelesmatikh antimetwpish ths diafqoras kai h diasfalish ths diafaneias se oloys toys tomeis toy dhmosioy bioy.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, opws paradexqhke kai o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias, misqwtoi kai syntajioyxoi shkwnoyn to baros twn forologikwn esodwn. Epeidh einai gnwsto oti o Proypologismos kata kapoio tropo exei pesei ektos problecewn kai epeidh synhqws kaqe kybernhsh katafeygei se ayjhsh emmeswn forwn, toys opoioys emmesoys foroys telika plhrwnoyn oi misqwtoi kai oi syntajioyxoi, qa akoloyqhsete ek neoy ayth thn praktikh;

ANTWNAROS: Yparxoyn oi ekteneis dhlwseis tis opoies ekane o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. Giwrgos Alogoskoyfhs, xqes, se sygkekrimeno plaisio sto opoio milhse - -to Symboylio gia thn Antimetwpish ths Forodiafyghs- - kai exei kanei safeis, pera apo opoiadhpote amfisbhthsh, topoqethseis gia merika apo ta qemata sta opoia anaferqhkate. Exei kanei topoqethseis kai gia polla alla qemata. Den yparxei kamia amfibolia oti oi adynamies toy forologikoy systhmatos sthn Ellada, oi opoies exoyn rizes kai baqos pollwn dekaetiwn, yparxoyn. Exoyn ginei shmantika bhmata, exoyn ginei shmantikes beltiwseis, ginontai omws kai prepei na ginoyn mesa se ayto to plaisio kai alla gia na antimetwpistei to synoliko qema to opoio paroysiase o Ypoyrgos kai exei megalh ektash. Den synocizetai se dyo treis fraseis, opws epixeirhsate na kanete. Mesa se ayto to plaisio, loipon, prepei na ginei o,ti einai aparaithto, wste aytoi oi forologoymenoi oi opoioi einai synepeis stis ypoxrewseis toys kai apoteloyn thn pleiochfia, na mhn yfistantai tis arnhtikes synepeies ths symperiforas twn allwn, oi opoioi me diaforoys tropoys prospaqoyn na mhn einai entajei apenanti stis ypoxrewseis toys. Dioti h forodiafygh den plhttei mono thn oikonomia, plhttei kai th megalh pleiochfia h opoia, to lew gia mia akomh fora, einai synephs stis ypoxrewseis ths apenanti sto koinwniko synolo.

GARGALAKOS: Kai kati allo gia na oloklhrwsw. H kybernhsh antimetwpizei to endexomeno na xorhghsei sta idiaitera asqenestera oikonomika strwmata, stoys xamhlosyntajioyxoys kai toys xamhlomisqoys, kapoio ektakto epidoma logw twn synqhkwn;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei enisxysei me polloys tropoys, sto prosfato parelqon, ekeinoys oi opoioi exoyn anagkh kai synexizei na to kanei. Sas ypenqymizw gia mia akomh fora kati to opoio eipe xqes o k. Alogoskoyfhs se ayth thn ektenh topoqethsh thn opoia ekane. Oti akribws gia na meiwqoyn ta forologika barh ta opoia exoyn oi xamhlomisqoi kai oi xamhlosyntajioyxoi, exoyn anaprosarmostei apo th shmerinh kybernhsh se shmantiko baqmo oi syntelestes toy aforologhtoy posoy. Ekeinoy, dhladh, toy posoy katw apo to opoio kaneis den ypoxrewnetai na plhrwnei foroys. Ayth einai mia shmantikh symbolh sthn elafrynsh twn xamhlosyntajioyxwn kai twn xamhloeisodhmatiwn. Mporoyn na ginoyn ki alla kai ginontai synexws ki alla. Sas ypenqymizw, gia mia akomh fora, to qema toy LAFKA. Den prepei na to jexnaei kaneis. Apo ayth thn kybernhsh ginane ola ayta.

KAKALHS: Eipate prohgoymenws oti einai pera apo amfisbhthsh oi topoqethseis toy k. Alogoskoyfh. To idio akribws mas legate kai prin merikoys mhnes otan o k. Alogoskoyfhs mas elege oti einai noikokyremena ta oikonomika toy topoy kai toy Proypologismoy. Meta apo merikoys mhnes apodeiknyetai, o idios omologei, oti ta esoda apo thn amesh forologia einai ston pato. Pali ejw apo amfisbhthsh prepei na einai;

ANTWNAROS: Oi xarakthrismoi toys opoioys kanete einai dikoi sas kai den toys symmerizomai.

KAKALHS: Oti (den akoygetai) ta oikonomika den einai dhlwsh toy k. Alogoskoyfh; Ta esoda apo th forologia einai ston pato, den einai dhlwsh toy k. Alogoskoyfh;

ANTWNAROS: Qa sas dwsw eyxaristws, meta to briefing olh th dhlwsh toy k. Alogoskoyfh poy profanws den thn exete diabasei se olh ths thn ektash. En pash periptwsei, eimai bebaios oti gnwrizete kai eseis, opws kai oi alloi synadelfoi sas edw se ayton to xwro, oti h Ellada den einai mia nhsos. H dieqnhs sygkyria ephreazei kai th xwra mas, opws ephreazei oles tis xwres ths Eyrwphs kai oxi monon. Exei synepeies ayto to opoio symbainei. H anodos ths timhs toy petrelaioy toys teleytaioys mhnes, h anodos allwn dieqnwn timwn exei synepeies kai gia th xwra mas. Kai h xwra mas, opws eipe kai xqes o k. Alogoskoyfhs, dioti epikalesthkate kati poy den to eixe diatypwsei etsi o k. Alogoskoyfhs, para ayth thn oxi eymenh dieqnh sygkyria, diathrei ychlo ryqmo anaptyjhs kai problepetai oti ikanopoihtiko chlo ryqmo anaptyjhs, poly ychlotero ryqmo anaptyjhs apo tis alles xwres ths Eyrwzwnhs, qa ejakoloyqhsei na diathrei h Ellada kai sto deytero ejamhno toy trexontos etoys. As perimenoyme loipon na doyme, as mhn ginontai oloi apo th mia mera sthn allh ``Kassandres''.

KAKALHS: Qelw na pw to ejhs, an moy epitrepete; Den ofeilei kapoies ejhghseis o Ypoyrgos gia th shmerinh katastash sta forologika esoda; Dhladh, otan ta prohgoymena xronia meiwne toys forologikoys syntelestes stis epixeirhseis kata 10 monades, otan katargoyse ton foro Megalhs Akinhths Perioysias, otan dhladh meiwne toys foroys gia toys isxyroys, ayto den einai eyqynh ths kybernhshs gia ayth th shmerinh katastash;

ANTWNAROS: Oi erwthseis sas periexoyn para polles antifaseis. Kai qa sas pw mia apo aytes: Eipate prohgoymenws oti to megalo baros twn forologikwn esodwn to feroyn oi syntajioyxoi. Twra, anaferqhkate stis epixeirhseis kai sthn meiwsh twn forologikwn syntelestwn gia tis epixeirhseis. Jexnate, omws, oti meiwnontai shmantika oi forologikoi syntelestes, pera apo ayto poy sas eipa egw gia toys xamhlomisqoys kai toys xamhlosyntajioyxoys kai gia ola ta fysika proswpa.

KAKALHS: Parola ayta, kapoioi plhrwnoyn perissotero.

ANTWNAROS: Kapoioi gia na plhrwnoyn perissotero foro, prepei na exoyn kai megalytero eisodhma. Den plhrwneis ychlotero foro an den exeis ychlotero eisodhma.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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