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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 4 Ioynioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 140897063

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 4 Ioynioy 2008

Xairete.

Qa hqela na epanalabw, en syntomia, mia dhlwsh poy ekane xqes o Ypoyrgos Emporikhs Naytilias, Aigaioy kai Nhsiwtikhs Politikhs, k. Boylgarakhs: H kybernhsh qewrei oti to apotelesma toy dieqnoys pleiodotikoy diagwnismoy gia toys emporeymatikoys staqmoys toy Peiraia einai mia epibebaiwsh ths kybernhtikhs politikhs. Exoyme ena poly shmantiko bhma gia na anadeixqei h xwra mas se strathgiko kentro ths Notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs. To prosferomeno timhma twn 4 dis 305 ekat. eyrw, einai epta fores parapanw apo thn trexoysa xrhmatisthriakh ajia oloklhroy toy Organismoy Limenos Peiraiws. Einai para poly shmantiko. Arkei na shmeiwsoyme oti apo ayth thn kinhsh, to limani toy Peiraia qa exei apo ton emporeymatiko staqmo 17 fores perissotera esoda, ap` oti exei ethsiws gia olo to limani. Einai mia poly shmantikh kinhsh gewstrathgika gia th xwra mas, fysika oikonomika gia ton OLP kai kata synepeia gia thn eqnikh oikonomia. Ayto qa hqela na to epanalabw, ws kommati mias politikhs poy dikaiwnetai.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

FANIDHS: Sto qema ayto kyrie Ekproswpe. Ontws, to poso einai entypwsiako. 4 dis 305 ekat. eyrw. To qema einai giati; Profanws, ta kerdh den einai poly perissotera; Gia na dinei kapoios tosa lefta, den qelei na bgalei toylaxiston alla tosa; Ara, den tiqetai to erwthma giati na proxwrhsoyme se ayth th symfwnia kai na mhn ejakoloyqhsei na yfistatai to shmerino kaqestws;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Me to isxyon kaqestws, olos o Organismos Limenos Peiraiws exei 17 fores ligotera kerdh ap` oti exei mono aytos o emporeymatikos staqmos. Antilambanetai kapoios oti ta pragmata einai poly diaforetika ap` oti eikasate sthn erwthsh sas.

ROYMELIWTHS: Pote qa yparjei kati sygkekrimeno; Pws qa antimetwpistoyn oi gamoi metajy atomwn toy idioy fyloy; Apo th mia o k. Sanidas zhtaei th diwjh toy dhmarxoy poy ekane to gamo. Oi nomikoi den exoyn mia eniaia qesh kai oi lhjiarxoi lene oti apo th stigmh poy toys paei o dhmarxos mia tetoia apofash, prepei na proxwrhsoyn poy einai kratikoi ypallhloi. Pote qa yparxei kati sygkekrimeno;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora thn kybernhsh, yparxei h analytikh dhlwsh poy ekane xqes o Ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs k. Xatzhgakhs. Tipote perissotero.

KORAH: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa epistrecw sto qema twn limaniwn. Yparxei stoys sxediasmoys ths kybernhshs ena sxedio gia thn idiwtikopoihsh kai allwn limaniwn peran toy Peiraia kai ths Qessalonikhs, as poyme ths Alejandroypolhs, ths Kabalas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kat` arxas, se o,ti afora toys oroys milame gia symbash paraxwrhshs. Einai allo pragma h idiwtikopoihsh sthn oikonomia. H symbash paraxwrhshs einai gia 35 xronia. Qa elege kapoios oti einai enoikio toy sygkekrimenoy staqmoy. Kai gnwrizete poly kala oti stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs einai na ginei to antistoixo kai sth Qessalonikh, oxi kati allo ayth th stigmh.

GKATSIOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, pws sxoliazete to gegonos oti h Siemens einai xorhgos se dieqnes festibal poy diorganwse h neolaia toy PASOK.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Fantazomai, oti qa prepei na kanei ena sxolio to PASOK, to opoio olo ayto to diasthma exei milhsei arketa h poly gia to qema ths Siemens. Qewrw oti h opoiadhpote plhroforia -diabasa oti exei epibebaiwqei emmesws apo to PASOK kai oxi epishmws- qa prepei eite na diaceysqei h na epibebaiwqei apo to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Se o,ti afora ta ths kybernhshs, sas exw apanthsei hdh, alles fores edw, gia to qema ayto. Den exw na prosqesw tipote perissotero. Perimenoyme apo th Dikaiosynh, bebaiws, thn ejelijh ths ypoqeshs.

KAKALHS: O Prwqypoyrgos den gnwrize, otan esteile xqes thn epistolh toy ston Proedro ths KOMISION oti to qema ths akribeias htan hdh sthn atzenta toy Symboylioy ths Synodoy Koryfhs poy ginetai stis 19 toy mhna stis Bryjelles kai gi` ayto to skopo, allwste, sygklhqhke kai to EKOFIN kai syzhthse to qema ayto; Epishs, pws ejhgeite oti oi protaseis poy kanei einai taytoshmes me aytes poy apofasise xqes to EKOFIN. Kai deyteron, mhpws telika o apodekths ths epistolhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy den htan o k. Mparozo, alla h koinh gnwmh ths xwras;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oson afora to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, den qa apanthsw. O kaqenas mporei na bgalei ta symperasmata toy h na kanei thn ajiologikh toy krish. Se o,ti afora to prwto skelos ths erwthsh sas, qa sas pw oti to EKOFIN ontws syzhtoyse metajy allwn qematwn kai to qema ths akribeias. Allo, omws, to EKOFIN, allo h Synodos Koryfhs. O Prwqypoyrgos proteine ston Proedro ths KOMISION na eishghqei sta qemata ths Synodoy Koryfhs na einai pio sygkekrimenoi oi tropoi antimetwpishs toy problhmatos ths akribeias, poy den einai ena problhma mono ellhniko, einai paneyrwpaiko, einai pagkosmio. Alla en pash periptwsei, mas apasxolei sto plaisio ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs . Kai exei kanei, hdh, sygkekrimenes protaseis sthn epistolh toy, etsi wste se ayta ta shmeia na estiasoyn -ektos kai an alloi arxhgoi epiqymoyn na syzhthsoyme kai eyrytera qemata gia thn akribeia- oi hgetes sth Synodo poy qa ginei ton Ioynio.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, alla oi protaseis poy ekane htan akribws oi idies poy apofasise to EKOFIN. An diabasete kai tis dhlwseis toy k. Alogoskoyfh xqes, ayto akribws eipe. Oi idies protaseis poy perilambanontai sthn protash toy Prwqypoyrgoy, yparxoyn kai sthn eishghsh toy EKOFIN. Hqela s` ayto na rwthsw kai ena symplhrwmatiko. Otan leei stoxeymenes koinwnikes metabibaseis ep` wfeleia twn eypaqwn plhqysmiakwn omadwn, giati den ginetai pio sygkekrimenos; Eipate oti qelei na ginei pio sygkekrimenos. Giati den milaei, as poyme, gia meiwsh toy FPA sta kaysima (den akoygetai) kai giati den zhtaei na meiwqei o FPA sta eidh prwths anagkhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora to kommati poy lete gia to EKOFIN, to EKOFIN synedriaze mexri xqes. O Prwqypoyrgos esteile xqes thn epistolh toy se synennohsh me ton Ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn. Eixe hdh teqei to qema kai sto EKOFIN kai apo thn ellhnikh pleyra. Ara, loipon, prwton: To oti sympiptoyme stis apoceis -me apoceis poy ekfrasthkan sth diarkeia ths hmeras apo toys Ypoyrgoys Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn h apo kapoioys Ypoyrgoys Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs- mallon qetiko to blepw kai pros thn kateyqynsh toy na ginoyn energeies poy na bohqhsoyn etsi wste na antimetwpistei to problhma ths akribeias. Sto deytero zhthma poy afora stis epiptwseis poy exei kyriws h ayjhsh toy dieqnoys plhqwrismoy stis eypaqeis koinwnikes omades, dhladh kyriws, se aytoys poy zoyn katw apo ta oria ths ftwxeias, yparxei ena qema se olh thn Eyrwph, se olo ton kosmo, alla emeis milame gia to eyrwpaiko epipedo. Apofasisame oti to kalytero einai na exoyme parembaseis koinwnikoy xarakthra kai parembaseis eisodhmatikhs sthrijhs twn ftwxwn noikokyriwn. Ekane analytikes dhlwseis kai xqes to apogeyma o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. Alogoskoyfhs. Syntoma, entos toy 2008, opws sas eixa pei kai prin apo liges hmeres syzhtwntas to qema ayto, qa proxwrhsoyme me pio sygkekrimena metra enisxyshs twn ftwxoterwn tajewn, twn anqrwpwn oi opoioi plhttontai perissotero apo kaqe allon apo to kyma ths akribeias.

XIWTHS: Sto idio qema. Ayto poy den katalabainw einai oti o Prwqypoyrgos zhta th syzhthsh gia na kataqesei sto Symboylio Koryfhs sygkekrimenes protaseis; Dioti, parathroyme oti sthn epistolh toy yparxoyn genikes parathrhseis h genikes protaseis, alla den ejeidikeyei. Gia paradeigma, qa zhthsei th meiwsh toy FPA, poy pros paron den einai dynath, na problhmatistoyn oi Eyrwpaioi hgetes h qa zhthsei prwtoboylies opws to Tameio ths Ftwxeias na xrhmatodothqoyn kai apo koinotika kondylia; Mporeite na mas dwsete kati parapanw sxetika me tis ellhnikes protaseis poy qa katateqoyn sto Symboylio Koryfhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sebomai thn opoiadhpote aporia. Antilambaneste, omws -kai exete empeiria apo Synodoys Koryfhs- oti se allo epipedo syzhtoyntai pio sygkekrimena metra, se allo epipedo syzhtoyntai ta politika metra. Ayto to opoio zhtame kai ayto to opoio pisteyw oti qa ginei telika dekto -afoy apotelese, sth synexeia ths xqesinhs hmeras, kai symfwnh gnwmh toy EKOFIN, ara loipon pisteyw oti exei poly megalyteres piqanothtes na pame sth Synodo Koryfhs kai na ginei dekto kai apo toys alloys hgetes- einai na katagrafei h antidrash sto problhma me sygkekrimena metra. Anaferqhkate se kapoia sygkekrimena metra. Edwsa, hdh, xqes mia apanthsh gia to FPA kai nomizw oti exei dwsei apanthsh kai to idio to EKOFIN gia ta qemata toy FPA. Yparxoyn, omws, alla zhthmata poy qigontai sthn epistolh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, opws gia paradeigma, h prospaqeia poy prepei na ginei me toys emporikoys mas etairoys. Kai milame gia emporikoys etairoys ws Eyrwpaikh Enwsh pia, me megales dynameis, pagkosmies oikonomika dynameis, eite gia qemata timhs petrelaioy eite gia alla zhthmata. Oi prospaqeies prepei na ginoyn gia thn enisxysh twn Epitropwn Antagwnismoy, thn enisxysh toy pragmatikoy antagwnismoy. Giati, opoy noqeyetai o antagwnismos, anqei h kerdoskopia. Aytes, loipon, oi prospaqeies se politiko epipedo tiqentai apo ton Prwqypoyrgo kai mporoyn na ejeidikeytoyn eite se epipedo Ypoyrgwn EKOFIN, eite se epipedo allwn organwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, prokeimenoy na bohqhqoyn oloi oi laoi ths Eyrwphs. Einai ena problhma  kai ayto moy dinete thn eykairia na to epanalabw- poy afora oxi mono th xwra mas, alla oloys toys laoys ths Eyrwphs. Ayth, loipon, h ejeidikeysh, efoson oloklhrwqei h syzhthsh se epipedo arxhgwn kratwn, mporei na ginei se kapoio allo epipedo. Pantws, se o,ti mas afora sto qema eidikotera twn ftwxwn noikokyriwn, exoyme hdh pei orismena pragmata. Epanelaba kapoia apo ayta poy eipe o ypoyrgos k. Alogoskoyfhs xqes kai pisteyw oti entos toy 2008, dhladh apo to fqinopwro kai meta, qa eimaste se qesh na kinhqoyme sthn kateyqynsh enisxyshs aytwn twn noikokyriwn.

GKOYTZANHS: H epixeirhmatologia sas basizetai sto oti h akribeia einai synepeia, kyriws, ths ayjhshs ths timhs twn kaysimwn dieqnws kai oti einai dieqnes problhma. Yparxoyn dyo zhthmata. To ena einai oti oi times petrelaioy se eyrw den exoyn ayjhqei toso poly, toylaxiston gia to 2006 kai 2007, exei mia kalh ereyna shmera to ``BHMA'', to exoyn pei kai alloi analytes olo ayto to diasthma poy mas apasxolei to zhthma. Kai to deytero oti ta idia proionta sthn Ellada, pwloyntai akribotera ap` oti pwloyntai se xwres ths E.E. Exoyn yparjei arketa reportaz se ayto poy den amfisbhtoyntai. Se ayta mporei na apanthsei h kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora to prwto skelos ths erwthshs sas, antilambaneste oti einai paralogo. Egw den eimai oikonomologos, alla toylaxiston me thn koinh logikh einai paralogo na pisteyei kapoios oti enw ayjanetai h timh toy petrelaioy se dolaria, den ayjanetai osh diafora kai na exei dolario me eyrw. Kai se eyrw, mporei na einai alloy eidoys h analogia, alla oti yparxei ayjhsh kai malista diplasiasmos ths timhs toy petrelaioy sta dolaria, shmainei oti yparxei sigoyra poly megalh ayjhsh kai sthn timh se eyrw. To deytero qema sto opoio anaferqhkate, to exoyme janasyzhthsei kai alles fores. Diabaza prin apo liges hmeres se arqro Ellhna analyth arqrografoy -anaparhgage dhmosieymata gallikwn efhmeridwn- ayto to opoio eipate na isxyei sth Gallia. Anarwtioyntai polloi sth Gallia, giati gallika proionta, gallikhs paragwghs na einai pio fqhna sto Berolino. Einai ena qema sto opoio den mporei na dwsei kapoios mia eykolh kai proxeirh apanthsh. Pantws, sigoyra den mporw na dwsw egw mia eykolh kai proxeirh apanthsh, dioti einai polles oi synistamenes poy prepei na ereynhsei kapoios, apo tis syskeyasies ews thn alysida proiontwn h opoia diakinei ayto to sygkekrimeno proion. Gnwrizete poly kala oti yparxoyn alysides proiontwn poy dinoyn prosfores se kapoies periodoys toy mhna h toy etoys. An loipon kapoios elegjei thn timh mias prosforas sth mia xwra kai thn kanonikh timh ektos prosforas sthn allh xwra, bebaiws kai qa brei poly megalh diafora. Pantws, einai ena zhthma yparkto. Den einai ena qema poy to amfisbhtw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ep` aytoy, gia to idio qema, qa elega pws einai se synexeia ths apanthshs sas pros to synadelfo. Egw qa epikalestw ta stoixeia poy dinei o OOSA, gia thn Ellada, poy deixnoyn oti o plhqwrismos trofimwn sthn Ellada trexei me 6,6%, enw stis ypoloipes xwres-melh toy Organismoy trexei me 5,7%, 1% ligotero kai oti o plhqwrismos ths energeias sth xwra mas trexei me 17,2% thn wra poy stis xwres toy OOSA periorizetai mono sto 12,4%. Ayto, sygkritika me tis alles xwres toy OOSA kai me bash ta stoixeia toy OOSA. Ep` aytoy, gia ton plhqwrismo ths energeias kai twn trofimwn, gia to kyma akribeias opws to leme epi to ellhnikoteron, ti protassei h kybernhsh ws metro, prokeimenoy... Den jerw an einai qema syzhthshs me tis etaireies trofimwn h otidhpote allo, alla poia metra problepei h qa problecei h kybernhsh pera apo tis politikes prwtoboylies se epipedo Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Prin apo liges hmeres rwthqhka kai egw kai en synexeia, nomizw kai o k. Antwnaros, gia to qema toy plhqwrismoy. Eixa tote enan pinaka, ton opoio edwse sth Boylh thn perasmenh Paraskeyh o ypoyrgos Anaptyjhs k. Fwlias, anaferomenos sto meso oro ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs ston opoio kineitai kai h xwra mas (h ligo katw apo to meso oro h peri ton meso oro pantws). Ta stoixeia toy OOSA poy moy anaferete den mporw na ta sxoliasw. Den exw kapoia antistoixa stoixeia mazi moy. Sas parapempw, omws, sth sygkrish poy mporei na ginei me tis alles eyrwpaikes xwres. H xwra mas kineitai sto meso oro toy plhqwrismoy. Einai pantws gegonos aytapodeikto -kai apo ayto to opoio eipate eseis- oti h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai polla alla krath antimetwpizoyn ena megalo problhma, to problhma ths akribeias, to opoio exei sygkekrimenes aities. Tis eipame kai alles fores, poly syntoma tis epanelaba nwritera kai prepei kapoios na tis dei mia pros mia. Gia paradeigma, h protash toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh na syzhthsoyme me toys megaloys emporikoys mas etairoys, shmainei ayto poy sas eipa prohgoymenws: Na syzhthsoyme gia to ean mporei na ginei kati se o,ti afora thn agora petrelaioy. Einai pragmatikh h anodos ths timhs toy petrelaioy -den eimai oikonomikos analyths, epanalambanw- h einai mia anodos h opoia perissotero ofeiletai se xrhmatisthriaka paixnidia sto dieqnes xrhmatisthriako pedio;

SPYRAKH: Dyo pragmata qa hqela na rwthsw. Ean, kat` arxhn, h kybernhsh exei ejasfalisei to poso twn 500 ekat. eyrw poy emfanizotan oti mporei na diaqesei sto Tameio gia th ftwxeia. To lew, giati jerw oti mono ta 100 ekat. apo ayta einai desmeymena, enw ta ypoloipa 400 ekat. qa proerxontai apo eidikoys logariasmoys ypoyrgeiwn, stoixeio poy synanta antirrhseis twn ypoyrgeiwn. Kai to deytero, ean h kybernhsh exei melethsei thn oikonomikh bash panw sthn opoia, kata tis plhrofories mas, qa apodwsei kai ena epidoma qermanshs apo ton Oktwbrio.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oson afora to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, den exw na pw tipote perissotero apo ayta poy sas eipa kai alles fores kai nwritera sxetika me ta epidomata. Gia to prwto -dystyxws, mporei na einai sta xartia moy, alla den to exw proxeiro- nomizw oti einai poly megalytero to poso apo ta 500 ekat. poy anaferate.

KAKALHS: Gia fetos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Milate gia fetos.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ethsiws. Giati einai 2 dis se tessera xronia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Fantazomai pws nai, giati opotan o ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn kanei anakoinwseis oti apo to fqinopwro qa arxisei na ginetai xrhsh aytoy toy posoy, fantazomai h apanthsh einai oti, nai, exei diasfalistei hdh to poso. Alla mporw na exw mia syzhthsh mazi toy kai ayrio, sthn enhmerwsh mas, na yparxei analytikoterh apanthsh.

SPYRAKH: An mporeite ... (den akoygetai) kai thn oikonomikh bash sthn opoia qa apodidontai; Giati profanws milhsate gia ta epidomata, alla gia na apodoqei ena epidoma qa xreiazetai kai mia... qa apodidetai mexri ena shmeio oikonomikhs epifaneias toy dikaioyxoy. Na jeroyme ayto.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den mporw na exw apanthsh se ayto to qema ayrio, giati katalabainete oti den einai mia aplh politikh. Milame gia ekatommyria Ellhnes polites kai einai mia politikh arketa synqeth. Kai gia kaqe nea politikh, poy einai kai synqeth kai den exei efarmostei -den qa pw idiws sth xwra mas opoy oi mhxanismoi organwshs akoma, dystyxws, den einai sta epipeda poy qa qelame oloi- nomizw oti einai poly nwris na apanthqei to erwthma ayto ayrio. Sto prwto, omws, erwthma qa exw apanthsh.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, gnwrizete ean stis 13, nomizw, qa erqei o k. Tserbenkofski sthn Ellada gia na metasxei sth Synodo Hgetwn Notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs me qema ... (den akoygetai);

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den to gnwrizw. Mporw na enhmerwqw kai na sas apanthsw.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o gamos twn atomwn toy idioy fyloy, einai ena zhthma to opoio exei apasxolhsei tis eyrwpaikes koinwnies kai apasxolei kai thn Ellada. Sth xwra mas, blepoyme tis teleytaies hmeres, to xeirizontai ayto to zhthma o dhmarxos enos akritikoy nhsioy kai oi eisaggeleis. Mhpws h kybernhsh skeftetai oti einai kairos na kanei mia kentrikh nomoqetikh ryqmish gia na dwsei mia dieyqethsh aytoy toy zhthmatos se opoiadhpote kateyqynsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ean diabasete th xqesinh dhlwsh thn opoia exei kanei o ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs, qa deite oti yparxei apanthsh kai se ayto to erwthma poy qetete, apanthsh poy doqhke kai prin apo dyo-treis mhnes, otan anakoinwqhke apo thn kybernhsh h proqesh -gia ta eterofyla zeygaria milame panta- gia to symfwno symbiwshs. Den exoyme proxwrhsei sto symfwno symbiwshs akoma, proxwroyme syntoma, sth Boylh. Gia to qema poy me rwtate, den yparxei kati ayth th stigmh.

KAKALHS: Poy apodidete ta anhsyxhtika shmadia kopwshs poy emfanizei h oikonomia, symfwna me ta epishma stoixeia ths Statistikhs Yphresias; H katanalwsh exei pesei, oi ependyseis meiwqhkan kata to prwto trimhno 6,8%, oi eisagwges 7,8%, o ryqmos anaptyjhs epese sto 3,6%, o dhmosios daneismos qa jeperasei ta 37 dis fetos, symfwna me tis epishmes dhlwseis, to dhmosio xreos exei fygei ektos oriwn. Ypotiqetai oti h oikonomia phgaine kala, symfwna me tis diadoseis ths kybernhshs, giati pleon oi idiwtes exoyn analabei, kanoyn ependyseis kai kinoyn thn oikonomia. Poy apodidete ayth thn ejasqenhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den mporw na anaferqw jexwrista sto kaqena apo ta stoixeia. Alla qa sas dwsw ena paradeigma poy anaferetai, omws, se ayto poy eipate, gia ta eisodhmata, ta esoda toy Dhmosioy: To prwto mhna, as poyme, toy etoys se sxesh me ton trito mhna ta esoda htan teleiws diaforetika. Htan kala ton prwto mhna, eixan pesei to deytero mhna kai anebhkan para poly ton trito. O stoxos ton opoio eqese h kybernhsh gia to prwto trimhno toy 2008 telikws epeteyxqh. An syzhtoysame ton Febroyario poy htan xamhla ta esoda, qa legame oti den epeteyxqh o stoxos. Ara, loipon, dinw ena stoixeio poy to gnwrizw poly kala kai etyxe na to exw syzhthsei prosfata me ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn. Mporw, omws, na enhmerwqw eidikotera apo to ypoyrgeio Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn kai gia ta ypoloipa poy lete kai na yparjei mia topoqethsh ayrio.

KAKALHS: Gia th synolikh eikona qa hqela egw na topoqethqeite, gia thn tash poy yparxei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H synolikh eikona ths oikonomias se mia dieqnws xeimazomenh oikonomikh periodo, antilambaneste oti den mporei para na dexetai ws antanaklash ta problhmata poy yparxoyn kai sthn ypoloiph Eyrwph, ston ypoloipo kosmo.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kai pali gia to qema ths akribeias: Me dedomenh thn epistolh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, alla kai thn protash poy exei kanei o Gallos Proedros, o Nikola Sarkozi, gia th meiwsh toy FPA, eyelpistei h kybernhsh oti mporei na yparjei to endexomeno ontws se politiko epipedo na yparjei mia kat` arxhn symfwnia kai twn ``25'' gia th meiwsh toy FPA;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, egine anafora xqes sthn apofash toy EKOFIN, sth syzhthsh sto EKOFIN gi` ayto to qema, apo ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn. Eipa liga logia prohgoymenws. Den exw na prosqesw kati perissotero.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh, omws, xqes -epanerxomai- afhsate, epeidh eipate oti einai ena qema to opoio den mporei na to xeirizetai mia xwra kata to dokoyn kai einai safestato ayto, afhsate omws na ennohqei oti prosdokate...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Syggnwmh. Xqes, edwsa to ti akribws symbainei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Se sxesh me to FPA, akribws. Kai me bash ta dika sas ta legomena, gi` ayto kai lew: Afhsate na ennohqei oti endexomenws, ean yparjei mia koinh, as to poyme, protash h den jerw kai egw, se epipedo Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, na yparjei mia apofash pros thn kateyqynsh ayth. Gi` ayto kai lew, eyelpistei, prosdoka h kybernhsh...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qelw na einai jekaqaro oti  thn eipa kai xqes me alla logia kai nwritera shmera thn eipa kai ayth einai kai h proseggish toy EKOFIN- h proseggish poy ginetai mexri stigmhs, den exei na kanei me th forologia, eite me ta kaysima, eite me meiwsh toy FPA opoydhpote, opws ayto poy anaferate, alla me stoxeymena metra gia thn enisxysh twn asqenesterwn oikonomika tajewn. An yparjoyn alles protaseis pros syzhthsh sto Symboylio Koryfhs, den mporw na to gnwrizw apo twra. Sas eipa poies einai oi dikes mas protaseis.

KAPRALOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw na rwthsw poia einai ta qemata poy symperilambanontai sthn atzenta ths synanthshs toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Nikola Sarkozi thn Paraskeyh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw na sas pw kati sygkekrimeno. Qa syzhthqoyn sigoyra dimerh qemata kai eyrwpaika qemata. Gnwrizete oti einai polla ta opoia exoyn syzhthqei kai se allh syzhthsh-synanthsh twn dyo hgetwn kai qemata poy endiaferoyn dimerws tis dyo xwres kai qemata poy endiaferoyn thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai sigoyra thn eyrwmesogeiakh syzhthsh poy ginetai gia th Syndiaskech. Den exw, omws, kati poly sygkekrimeno. Efoson ayrio ayto einai efikto, qa sas enhmerwsw.

GKOYTZANHS: Qa erqei meta syzygoy o k. Sarkozi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den to gnwrizw. Alla blepw pantws oti yparxei megalo endiaferon. Prwi-prwi me rwthse o 12xronos gios moy an qa erqei me th syzygo toy. Twra, me rwtate eseis.

ROYMELIWTH: Qa hqela na symplhrwsw, ean sthn atzenta -alla lete oti den to gnwrizete- yparxei to qema ths amyntikhs synergasias twn dyo xwrwn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den to gnwrizw. Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw ayrio.

KORAH: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yparxei politiko qema gia to PASOK gia to gegonos oti h Neolaia PASOK gia to dieqnes festibal poy diorganwse to 2003 apodexqhke mia xorhgia dekapente xiliadwn apo th SIEMENS; H ONNED den exei kanei kati analogo, oxi apo th SIEMENS, apo alles etaireies; Einai kati kako ayto poy egine tote;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Rwthqhka nwritera kai exw dwsei apanthsh.

KORAH: Diaforetiko einai to erwthma moy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H apanthsh einai idia.

ROYMELIWTHS: Yparxei apanthsh sto ellhniko diabhma gia to peristatiko poy egine sto synora, xqes sto Tagma poy phge na perasei na paei sto Kossyfopedio ka zhthqhkan diabathria;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gnwrizw to peristatiko alla dystyxws den exw na sas pw kati perissotero.

PALAIOLOGOS: Dhladh den entassetai sto plaisio ths ojynshs apo pleyras Skopiwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epeidh einai poly eyaisqhto qema qa hqela na milhsw me to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynhs kai to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn kai en synexeia na yparjei topoqethsh.

GKOYTZANHS: Epitrecte moy kyrie Ekproswpe. Me parapemcate sth xqesinh dhlwsh toy ypoyrgoy Dikaiosynhs k. Xatzhgakh opoy leei oti se omofyla zeygaria oi apopeires teleshs politikwn gamwn einai paranomes kai oi sxetikoi gamoi anypostatoi. Egw allo pragma qa sas rwthsw. An h kybernhsh qa analabei prwtoboylia gia na ferei nomoqetikh ryqmish gia na dieyqethsei to zhthma efejhs, oxi to ti isxyei mexri twra.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kai sas apanthsa me alla logia, oti den antimetwpizetai ayto to endexomeno.

FANIDHS: Kai egw sto idio qema. Efoson einai paranomoi oi gamoi, den qa prepei na paremboyn oi perifereiarxes kai na trabhjoyn to ayti twn dhmarxwn, poy oytws h allws einai proistamenoi toys; Dhladh o kaqe dhmarxos kanei oti qelei se ayth th xwra;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxei h Dikaiosynh h opoia leitoyrgei anejarthtws kai apo kei kai pera oi Organismoi Topikhs Aytodioikhshs ofeiloyn na kinoyntai mesa sto plaisio toy nomoy kai toy Syntagmatos. Gia to nomo kai to Syntagma den dikazei o perifereiarxhs. Opws gnwrizete, o perifereiarxhs den einai dikasths, oyte anhkei sth Dikaiosynh. Yparxei h Dikaiosynh h opoia asxoleitai me ayta ta qemata. An kapoios parabiasei to nomo  an eseis parabiasete ayrio to nomo  den qa syllabei o dhmarxos epeidh eiste entos ths perifereias toy. Kapoio organo ths Astynomias h o dikasths qa to kanei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Dhladh an katalaba kala apodokimazete thn energeia poy egine shmera enantion toy dhmarxoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Poia energeia; Den gnwrizw.

KAKALHS: Pws sxoliazete thn protash toy k. Karatzaferh gia proeklogikh h meteklogikh synergasia me th Nea Dhmokratia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: S ayto to qema exei apanthsei o Prwqypoyrgos kai proeklogika kai alles fores.

KAKALHS: Thn perasmenh Deytera gia na dikaiologhsete thn epiqesh twn MAT se baros twn katoikwn ths Leykimmhs sthn Kerkyra, eixate yposthrijei oti yparxei apofash toy Symboylioy ths Epikrateias kai h opoia eprepe na efarmostei. Oi katoikoi lene oti den yparxei tetoia apofash toy Symboylioy ths Epikrateias kai malista lene oti h ekdikash exei oristei gia tis 14 Oktwbrioy toy 2008.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Prepei na syzhthsw me to armodio ypoyrgeio ka na sas dwsw perissotera stoixeia ayrio. Ayth thn enhmerwsh exw. An kanw laqos gnwrizete - opws exei symbei sto parelqon, se mia - dyo periptwseis - oti egw den qa exw kanena problhma na to paradexqw dhmosiws.

KAKALHS: (Den akoygetai) ... toys paranomoyntes.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kat arxas, jexwrizoyme ta dyo qemata. Oloi ekfrasame th qlich mas kai ton apotropiasmo mas gia to qanato enos anqrwpoy. Ta exw jexwrisei, den qelw na epanelqw se ayto. Qa anaferqw mono sto sygkekrimeno poy me rwthsate, efoson exw mia nea syzhthsh me to armodio ypoyrgeio.

KORAH: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eiste enas neos politikos kai hlikiaka apo ta dyo  tria neotera melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy. H dikh sas proswpikh gnwmh poia einai gia to gamo twn omofylwn zeygariwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete kai alles fores sas exw pei, oti ekproswpw thn kybernhsh, den ekfrazw proswpikes apoceis apo ayto to bhma.

Sas eyxaristw.

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