Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-06-03

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 3 Ioynioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 140572939

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 3 Ioynioy 2008

Xairete.

" Oloklhrwqhke, prin apo ligo, h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Paideias. O k. Stylianidhs exei hdh kanei dhlwseis, ejw apo to Megaro Majimoy. Den exw na prosqesw tipote, ektos an erwthqw kati ejeidikeymeno.

" O Prwqypoyrgos, ayrio, stis 12.30, qa synanthqei sto Megaro Majimoy me to proedreio toy Symboylioy Apodhmoy Ellhnismoy (SAE) kai stis 18.30 qa parastei se ekdhlwsh poy diorganwnei to Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas kai h efhmerida ``ELEYQEROS TYPOS'', sto Polemiko Moyseio, gia thn paroysiash toy leykwmatos kai toy ntokimanter ``Agwnes twn Ellhnwn 1897 -1947, o misos aiwnas poy oloklhrwse thn Ellada''.

" Qa epanalabw ta basika shmeia shmantikwn anakoinwsewn poy eginan xqes apo ton Ypoyrgo Periballontos, Xwrotajias kai Dhmosiwn Ergwn kai aforoyn toys neoys aytokinhtodromoys Attikhs, oi opoioi exoyn synoliko mhkos peripoy 55 xlm kai proypologismo 1,2 dis eyrw: Me ta erga diplasiazoyme toys asfaleis kai sygxronoys aytokinhtodromoys taxeias kykloforias mesa sthn Attikh kai symballoyme apofasistika sthn periballontikh anabaqmish kai thn kykloforiakh aposymforhsh twn astikwn kentrwn ths Attikhs. Etsi kanoyme pio anqrwpinh th zwh twn katoikwn ths polhs. Oi neoi aytokinhtodromoi Attikhs einai ena poly shmantiko periballontiko ergo. To kostos toy ergoy exei ayjhqei shmantika, kaqws epelegh h lysh ths plhroys ypogeiopoihshs sth dytikh pleyra toy Ymhttoy. Etsi paramenoyn aneggixtes oi paryfes toy Ymhttoy pros Byrwna, Hlioypolh, Argyroypolh kai Ellhniko me plhrh ypogeiopoihsh ths dytikhs perifereiakhs Ymhttoy. H prokhryjh toy diagwnismoy ypologizoyme oti qa ginei mexri to telos toy etoys. An den yparxoyn problhmata me enstaseis, toy xronoy tetoio kairo mporei na exoyme anadoxo kai ypologizoyme oti mexri ta telh toy 2013, to ergo mporei na einai etoimo sto synolo toy. Wstoso, qa problepontai endiameses proqesmies kai qa paradoqoyn nwritera orismena tmhmata, opws gia paradeigma to tmhma pros Ellhniko kai ayto pros thn paraliakh lewforo sto ycos ths Agias Marinas meta th Barkiza. Exoyn, hdh, dhmosieyqei oi ajones. Egw qa sas pw monon oti oi neoi aytoi odikoi ajones anabaqmizoyn kykloforiaka kai periballontika th zwh twn katoikwn ths Aqhnas kai twn gyrw perioxwn. Stamatoyn oi periporeies twn aytokinhtwn apo kai pros to kentro, alla kai tis paralies ths Attikhs. Meiwnontai qeamatika ta xiliometra poy qa xreiazetai kaqe oxhma na dianysei prokeimenoy oi odhgoi kai oi epibates na fqanoyn nwritera ston proorismo toys, me synepakoloyqo, bebaiws, megalo oikonomiko, periballontiko, xroniko kai energeiako ofelos. Xarakthristika, gia na ginei pio katanohto me paradeigmata ayto to teleytaio, anaferetai oti: Gia na dianyqoyn shmera ta 14,5 xiliometra apo ton aytokinhtodromo ths Katexakh mexri th lewforo Poseidwnos, oi odhgoi dapanoyn, se wres ektos aixmhs, panw apo 40 lepta. O xronos aytos qa perioristei sta 8-10 lepta, akomh kai gia tis fortwmenes kykloforiaka wres. Gia th diadromh apo ton aytokinhtodromo Katexakh mexri ta notia paralia, oi odhgoi dapanoyn shmera, safws perissotero apo mia wra. Me ton problepomeno neo odiko ajona, mesw ths megalhs shraggas Ymhttoy, o xronos aytos qa periorizetai se 13 ews 15 lepta.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, me dedomeno oti xqes eixame topoqethsh ths E.E. apo thn pleyra toy Epitropoy, toy armodioy gia th dieyrynsh, alla kai toy ekproswpoy gia th Notioanatolikh Eyrwph toy State Department sxetika me th dienergeia twn eklogwn sthn PGDM, qa hqela ena sxolio ths kybernhshs, an symmerizetai tis anhsyxies twn etairwn kai symmaxwn se o,ti afora thn poreia ths geitonikhs xwras kai ton tropo me ton opoio dienerghqhkan oi ekloges.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa meinw sthn anakoinwsh poy egine apo to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn kai den qa prosqesw tipote perissotero.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, oi ayjhseis sthn timh toy hlektrikoy reymatos, poy anakoinwnei o k. Aqanasopoylos, entassontai sto sxediasmo ths kybernhshs gia thn antimetwpish ths akribeias kai toy plhqwrismoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exoyn anakoinwqei edw kai para poly kairo. Ws ek toytoy, gnwrizete thn apanthsh.

GKOYTZANHS: Anakoinwse kai thn proqesh toy gia peraiterw ayjhseis, gi` ayto.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exoyn anakoinwqei kai aytes, edw kai para poly kairo. H DEH einai enas dhmosios organismos poy anhkei se oloys toys Ellhnes polites. Kai antilambanetai kapoios oti ta xrhmata ayta den phgainoyn se tsepes idiwtwn. Phgainoyn sthn enisxysh twn prospaqeiwn poy ginontai gia to elleimma energeias poy exoyme ws xwra. Antilambanomaste, loipon, oti yparxei ontws ena dilhmma se anqrwpino epipedo, se epipedo logikhs  opws to anaferate eseis estw kai eirwnika- alla apo thn allh pleyra...

GKOYTZANHS: Kaqoloy eirwnika.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apo thn allh pleyra antilambanomaste, epishs, oloi oti zhthmata poy exoyn na kanoyn me thn energeia (h opoia en telei katalhgei kai pali na plhrwnetai apo toys Ellhnes polites) den mporei na antimetwpistoyn diaforetika.

KAKALHS: Na kanw mia symplhrwmatikh erwthsh se ayto: Giati den exei xtistei kanena ergostasio paragwghs energeias ta teleytaia dyo-tria xronia apo th DEH, parolo poy paroysiazei kerdh kaqe xrono; H kerdoforia dhladh poy phgainei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa sas pw leptomereies gia qemata ta opoia einai shmantika. Gnwrizete poly kala oti ginetai mia prospaqeia  kai exei proxwrhsei arketa- kai gia nea ergostasia. Kai gnwrizete poly kala oti ginetai mia prospaqeia kai gia enallaktikes morfes energeias.

KYRITSHS: O k. Aqanasopoylos dikaiologei to aithma toy gia ayjhseis, legontas oti prepei na akribynei to reyma gia na proselkysoyme ependytes gia thn kataskeyh hlektrikwn monadwn. Ayto den kollaei akribws me ayto poy mas eipate amesws prin.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei dwsei mia analytikh synenteyjh  prin apo dyo h treis mhnes, an qymamai kala- otan anakoinwqhkan oi anagkes oi opoies yparxoyn sth DEH, gia tis ayjhseis poy exei proteinei. Gnwrizete poly kala oti eixan protaqei oi ayjhseis aytes, nomizw, se megalytero pososto. Exoyn oristikopoihqei ta qemata ayta. Antilambanomaste oloi oti h katastash, se o,ti afora thn akribeia sthn agora, einai mia dyskolh katastash gia oloys kai sthn Ellada kai sto dieqnes periballon. Den mporw h den exw na prosqesw kati perissotero sto qema poy me rwtate.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, se gkalop poy eidame xqes sth dhmosiothta, se pososto 75% oi polites qewroyn terastio problhma thn akribeia. Thn idia stigmh poy oi biomhxanies exoyn terastia kerdh ths tajews, ap` oti diabazoyme, toy 278%. Qa hqela na rwthsw, an pragmatika to problhma ths akribeias einai toso megalo h h agora telika einai toso eleyqerh h isws kai asymmazeyth, me mia ennoia, apo thn opoiadhpote kybernhsh. Oxi apo thn kybernhsh, dhladh, th sygkekrimenh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Egw den qa aqwwna -an epitrepetai na xrhsimopoihsw ayth th lejh- kapoia pleyra. Dhladh, den qa elega oti ftaine oi biomhxanies kai den ftaine ta soyper market, gia paradeigma. Se kamia periptwsh den qa elega oti ftaiei mono h mia pleyra. Gia thn akribeia, pantws, einai gnwsto oti h dieqnhs sygkyria einai poy exei th megalh eyqynh. Apo ekei kai pera, gnwrizete poly kala oti o armodios ypoyrgos, o Ypoyrgos Anaptyjhs, ek meroys ths kybernhshs exei kalesei toys syntelestes, toys paragontes ths agoras, eite einai sth biomhxania eite einai sto emporio -oi ekproswpoi twn soyper market k.o.k- kai toys exei zhthsei na kinhqoyn sto plaisio ths etairikhs koinwnikhs eyqynhs. Poy shmainei, dhladh, na meiwsoyn sto dynato baqmo tis times, na pagwsoyn tis times k.o.k. Kapoioi ej aytwn exoyn yposxeqei oti qa to kanoyn, eite na pagwsoyn eite na meiwsoyn tis times, kai kapoioi alloi anamenoyme na mas apanthsoyn. Se kaqe periptwsh, ekeino poy exoyme kanei einai na enteinoyme toys elegxoys, prokeimenoy na epityxoyme na xtyphqoyn fainomena kerdoskopias.

KAKALHS: Sto qema ths DEH: Exei dwsei dhladh to ``prasino fws'' h kybernhsh gia thn metakylhsh toy kostoys twn kaysimwn stoys katanalwtes, dhladh poy shmainei ayjhsh twn timologiwn kata 30% apo to 2009; Poia einai h qesh sas, dhladh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epanalambanw oti to qema ayto den einai qema to opoio syzhtame shmera h xqes. Einai ena qema to opoio syzhthsame edw kai merikoys mhnes.

KAKALHS: Th qesh ths kybernhshs lew.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Thn exei pei th qesh ths h kybernhsh, apo tote.

GKOYTZANHS: Yparxei mia politikh diastash: Oti thn idia wra poy h kybernhsh epafietai sthn koinwnikh eyaisqhsia twn biomhxanwn kai twn loipwn epixeirhmatiwn gia na meiwsei thn akribeia, dinei to kako paradeigma anebazontas thn timh toy reymatos, me oti ayto synepagetai gia olh thn alysida ths paragwghs. Den einai ena qema ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa moy epitrecete na pw oti einai ena ceydepigrafo epixeirhma. Gia poio logo; Dioti, epanalambanw: Stoys Ellhnes katanalwtes an qeleis na toys milhseis eilikrina, anoixta, qa prepei na toys ypenqymiseis  kai ypenqymizoyme se oloys- oti apo thn allh pleyra toy proypologismoy qa plhrwqoyn ta xrhmata ta opoia qa leipoyn. Dhladh, pali apo toys Ellhnes katanalwtes. Ara, loipon, den mporei na pei kapoios oti isxyei to idio. Sth mia periptwsh milame gia idiwtikes epixeirhseis poy prepei na meiwsoyn ta kerdh toys, sthn allh periptwsh, milame gia mia dhmosia epixeirhsh poy anhkei se oloys toys Ellhnes polites kai h opoia kindyneyei na paqei megalyteres zhmies, me apotelesma oi idioi oi Ellhnes polites na klhqoyn na janaplhrwsoyn. Tertipia toy parelqontos, sta opoia mas eixe synhqisei h prohgoymenh kybernhsh, opoy dhqen ekane koinwnikh politikh se orismena zhthmata kai telika apo alla kondylia, poy oi Ellhnes katanalwtes pali plhrwnan mesw toy Proypologismoy h mesw twn dekadwn forwn poy epebale, den exoyme logo na ta epanalaboyme. Kai den exoyme logo na ta epanalaboyme, giati ofeiloyme na eimaste eilikrineis apenanti stoys Ellhnes polites. Oi Ellhnes polites einai poy qa janaplhrwsoyn, akomh kai an fanei proswrina, ayto to opoio eseis lete.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, na perasoyme se ena allo qema, ean exete thn kalosynh, giati xqes dhmioyrghqhke enas poly megalos qorybos, meta apo kataqesh prwhn stelexoys ths Siemens sthn Ellada, poy isxyristhke oti edwse xrhmata se politiko komma kai politika proswpa kai xqes to brady antelhfqhn oti to kybernwn komma, h Nea Dhmokratia, aisqanqhke thn anagkh mesw diarrohs na aposafhnisei oti den prokeitai gia th Nea Dhmokratia. Yparxei kati pio epishmo; Qelei na pei kati h kybernhsh; Giati kinhqhkate se ayth thn kateyqynsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eimai se qesh na gnwrizw oti aisqanqhkan thn anagkh polloi dhmosiografoi na rwthsoyn. Kai anarwtiemai, arage, aisqanqhkan thn anagkh na rwthsoyn kai alla kommata; Dioti, afoy erwthqh h Nea Dhmokratia, aphnthse. Kai eimai se qesh na gnwrizw oti rwthqhke kai o Grammateas ths kai alla stelexh ths Neas Dhmokratias. Aphnthse, loipon, h Nea Dhmokratia me ton tropo poy aphnthse kai fantazomai oti exei ginei erwthsh kai se alla kommata. Arage, apanthsan ta alla kommata h den aisqanqhkan oi dhmosiografoi thn anagkh na rwthsoyn alla kommata;

GKOYTZANHS: (den akoygetai)

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ma, egw den epitimw kanenan, pros Qeoy! Epeidh h k. Spyrakh eipe oti aisqanqhke thn anagkh h Nea Dhmokratia. Lew oti eimai se qesh na gnwrizw ti erwthqhke h Nea Dhmokratia. Dyo tina symbainoyn: 'H den rwthqhke allo komma h rwthqhke kai den aphnthse h aphnthse kai den to dhmosieysate eseis.

KYRITSHS: Dhladh, an katalaba kala, exete th bebaiothta oti h Nea Dhmokratia ws komma, eite h kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias h stelexh ths Neas Dhmokratias den emplekontai epoydeni se ayto to skandalo xrhmatismoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei, toylaxiston dyo fores sto press room, se paremfereis erwthseis gia to idio qema. Den exw na prosqesw tipote perissotero.

SPYRAKH: Gia na to ypenqymisoyme k. Ekproswpe, perimenete thn ejelijh ths dikastikhs ereynas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi mono ayto. Exw pei kai alla pragmata. Bebaiws, qa perimenoyme omws, se kaqe periptwsh, thn ejelijh ths dikastikhs ereynas.

KAKALHS: Prohgoymenws eipate oti den aqwwnetai kamia pleyra, alla taytoxrona eipate oti h dieqnhs sygkyria exei th megalh eyqynh. Kai xqes, eipate oti zoyme se kaqestws eleyqerhs agoras. Otan bazete aytes tis dyo afethriakes qeseis, antikeimenika ayto den shmainei aqwwsh kai se kamia periptwsh kanena metwpo kata twn kerdoskopwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. To na perigrafeis thn pragmatikothta den einai aqwwsh kanenos. Thn apanthsh thn edwsa se sxesh me to ean mia pleyra kanei kati kai ypenqymisa oti den einai mono mia pleyra, den mporw na aqwwsw kanenan apo tis biomhxanies, oyte oti exw tipota enantion toy epixeirein. Makari to epixeirein na einai yper twn Ellhnwn politwn, yper ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, ths enisxyshs ths kai toy megalwmatos ths. Qymizw, aplws, oti yparxoyn kai alloi paragontes sthn agora.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh qymamai para poly kala ayta poy dhlwnete...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Me timate, eyxaristw.

GKOYTZANHS: ...kai eseis kai ta ypoloipa stelexh ths kybernhshs, qymamai oti prin apo xronia mas legate oti h apeleyqerwsh ths agoras, h ygihs leitoyrgia ths agoras qa enteinei ton antagwnismo kai to ofelos telika qa einai gia toys katanalwtes. Tessera xronia meta, me th dikh sas diakybernhsh, ayto poy blepoyme emeis den einai na ayjanetai o antagwnismos. Ayjanetai o antagwnismos sthn ayjhsh twn timwn metajy twn epixeirhmatiwn. Mhpws einai kairos na anaqewrhsete ayto to dogma peri eleyqerias ths agoras;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Shmeiwnoyme, pantws, oti to teleytaio ejamhno eidika exoyme th megalh anodo twn timwn. Giati anodo twn timwn, kata kairoys se periodoys olwn twn teleytaiwn etwn, parakoloyqhsame kai den exei sxesh me th shmerinh kybernhsh kai thn prohgoymenh kybernhsh. Sas qymizw oti o tote yfypoyrgos eixe parei tis kameres kai ebgaine stoys dromoys gia thn akribeia. Pantws, h megalh anodos twn timwn einai fainomeno poy parathreitai dieqnws toys teleytaioys mhnes me thn poly megalh ayjhsh ths timhs toy petrelaioy. Exei yperdiplasiastei h timh toy petrelaioy. Ara, h dieqnhs sygkyria paizei sigoyra kapoio rolo, an oxi ton kyriotero.

KAKALHS: Se ayto poy eipate molis twra oti einai fainomeno twn teleytaiwn eji mhnwn, den einai mono h anodos twn timwn sta eidh diatrofhs kai sta eidh prwths anagkhs, ta opoia exei ayjhsei kata 20% me 30%. Taytoxrona, exoyme kai to fainomeno twn almatwdwn kerdwn stis epixeirhseis lianemporioy, perilambanomenwn kai twn soyper market kata 20%. Dhladh, oso ayjanontai oi times, taytoxrona ayjanontai kai ta kerdh. Ayto den to blepei h kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh parakoloyqei kai einai ekeinh poy kalei oles tis pleyres na kinhqoyn sto plaisio toy nomoy. Gnwrizete poly kala oti o nomos orizei kai ta oria ths kerdoskopias kai bebaiws ta oria ayta ta opoia mporei o elegktikos mhxanismos, opoiosdhpote dhmosios elegktikos mhxanismos, na parembei kai na bohqhsei ton katanalwth. Ekeino poy qelw na pw, gia mia akomh fora  to exw pei kai alles fores, to exei pei kai o armodios ypoyrgos- einai oti ena pio isxyro katanalwtiko kinhma qa mporoyse na bohqhsei sigoyra poly perissotero apo o,ti symbainei shmera.

KYRITSHS: Se allo qema. Sto plaisio aytoy toy dialogoy poy anaptyssetai tis teleytaies hmeres sxetika me th bia kai th Dhmokratia sta panepisthmia, egine eyrytera gnwsto oti shmerinos Proedros ths ONNED k. Papanikolaoy eixe ``boythjei'' mia kalph prin apo merika xronia. Qelw na rwthsw, me poia logikh epibrabeyqhke kai egine Proedros ths ONNED.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw an synebh h oxi to peristatiko to opoio moy anaferete. Ekeino poy einai bebaio, einai oti kaneis den dikaioytai, sta panepisthmia, na symperiferetai me symperifores opws aytes poy blepoyme to teleytaio diasthma na epanalambanontai apo mia mikrh oiktrh meiochfia, h opoia prospaqei na epiballei thn apoch ths sthn pleiochfia. Sth Dhmokratia symbainei h pleiochfia na einai poy apofasizei kai h meiochfia na mporei na ekfrazei me eleyqeria thn apoch ths. Kai eleyqeria, den shmainei oti ``pairnw thn kalph kai thn petaw sta skoypidia'', opws polles fores eidame tis teleytaies hmeres.

KYRITSHS: Na ypoqesw oti ayto isxyei kai gia ton Proedro ths ONNED. Einai genikhs isxyos h dhlwsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exete thn entypwsh oti oi topoqethseis poy kanw edw exoyn xrwma; Oxi. Ideologikh proseggish sta pragmata, bebaiws kai yparxei.

KYRITSHS: Xrwma kai ideologikh proseggish, ti diafora exoyn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H Dhmokratia kai h dhmokratikh symperifora den exoyn kanena xrwma.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, jekinhsate to briefing, legontas mas gia toys aytokinhtodromoys poy qa ftiajete sthn Attikh. Exete synypologisei to kostos poy qa plhrwnoyn oi odhgoi kai to xrono poy qa xanoyn sta diodia; Kai to deytero poy qa hqela na rwthsw, einai giati ayth, poy einai eidikh epilogh ths kybernhshs na anaptyjei aytokinhtodromoys kai oxi na anaptyjei ta mesa staqerhs troxias, opws to Metro, gia thn epilysh toy sygkoinwniakoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den eimai sygkoinwniologos. Se kamia periptwsh den mporw na apanthsw sth leptomereia poy qetei to qema sas. Mono me th logikh, qa sas elega oti h synexeia ths Perifereiakhs Ymhttoy fantazomai oti den mporei na ginei me Metro. Dhladh, fantazomai oti den qa stamatoyn oi odhgoi kapoy sto ycos ths Kaisarianhs kai qa pairnoyn to Metro gia na synexizoyn na pane sthn paraliakh. Eikazw, dhladh, oti ayth einai mia anagkh profanhs. Eilikrina, den fantazomoyn oti qa moy ginei ayth h erwthsh gia na exw etoimasei pio episthmonikh proseggish. Wstoso, sto prwto qema poy qigete gia toys neoys aytokinhtodromoys: Qa yparxei hlektroniko systhma, wste ta diodia na kataballontai ana xiliometro. Dhladh, oi odhgoi qa xrewnontai analoga me thn apostash poy qa dianyoyn, poy einai kai to dikaio systhma. Bebaiws, qa yparxei kai dynatothta plhrwmhs diodiwn me xeirokinhto systhma. Ta diodia apoteloyn basiko antikeimeno toy antagwnismoy sto diagwnismo kai to mono poy mporw na pw einai oti ta diodia mporei na einai fqhnotera apo ta diodia sthn yfistamenh Attikh Odo, alla se kamia periptwsh den qa einai akribotera.

GKOYTZANHS: Dhladh, an moy epitrepete, gia na pame sth doyleia mas qa plhrwnoyme diodia apo to 2013;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti den qa sas apanthsw. Dhladh, ti perissotero na sas pw; Oti exoyme fqasei se ena shmeio opoy egine h megalh Attikh Odos, egine h Perifereiakh toy Ymhttoy kai exei fqasei se ena shmeio sth mesh. Anti loipon oi odhgoi na kanoyn perissotero apo mia wra gia na fqasoyn ston proorismo toys  exw toys ajones, alla den sas toys diabasa gia na mhn sas koyrasw perissotero, kaqoson dhmosiopoihqhkan shmera- anti na molynoyme to periballon, ypogeiopoioyntai oles ekeines oi perioxes, poy deixnei kai to sebasmo, oxi mono sto periballon, alla kai stoys polites kai toys katoikoys twn perioxwn poy htan pagio aithma toys etwn. Anti loipon na qewrhqei mia kinhsh proodoy pros thn kateyqynsh ths poiothtas zwhs sthn polh, shmeiwnete kati to opoio, se o,ti afora to oikonomiko skelos. Ayto symbainei se ola ta merh toy kosmoy, otan ftiaxneis enan kainoyrgio dromo kai malista ton ftiaxneis me symprajeis Dhmosioy kai idiwtikoy tomea h me anaqesh se epixeirhseis, qa prepei ayto to kostos na metakylistei, na plhrwqei. Synebh kai stis eqnikes odoys kai symbainei pantoy, den einai prwtofanes to fainomeno. Ekeino poy shmeiwnoyme einai oti edw ginetai problech, wste na yparxei kai hlektronikh kai xeirokinhth dynatothta gia na perasei kaneis ta diodia, alla problech na plhrwnei analoga me ta xiliometra ta opoia qa xrhsimopoiei. Oxi na mpainei sth mia eisodo kai na bgainei sthn allh kai na plhrwnei to idio me to na kanei ta 40 tosa xiliometra.

TSIOYFOS: Diabaza xqes mia synenteyjh toy Genikoy Grammatea Katanalwth o opoios elege oti einai laqos na sygkrinoyme tis times sta rafia twn ellhnikwn soyper market me tis antistoixes times sta rafia kapoiwn eyrwpaikwn soyper market, giati ekei elege, o F.P.A. einai 5%, 3% h kaqoloy F.P.A. enw edw einai sta trofima o F.P.A. 9%. Swsth ws skech, ws ypologismos, alla telos pantwn poios eyqynetai oti edw exoyme 9% F.P.A. kai se kapoies alles xwres exoyn mhdeniko F.P.A. sta trofima; Den qa mporoyse h kybernhsh se mia periodo tetoia, opws ayth poy dianyoyme na skeftei piqanon kai th meiwsh toy F.P.A.;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa mpw se kanenos eidoys leptomereia. Einai qemata ta opoia apo th stigmh poy ta exei anaferei o Genikos Grammateas Katanalwth, den gnwrizw pws, me pio tropo, se ti erwthseis apantwntas- nomizw oti me poly xara qa sas apanthsei se opoiadhpote aporia exete.

TSIOYFOS: H erwthsh htan giati yparxoyn diafores stis times sta rafia twn soyper market metajy ellhnikwn kai eyrwpaikwn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eidika se ayto to kommati den mporw na sas apanthsw egw. Exei apanthqei hdh apo ton armodio ypoyrgo, o opoios einai se qesh na gnwrizei poly kalytera to qema. Poses diafores yparxoyn, an yparxoyn, ti eidoys diafores, syskeyasies k.l.p. As mhn mpoyme, edw sto press room se ayto to kommati. Ekeino to opoio exw na sas pw einai oti sto qema toy F.P.A. gnwrizete poly kala oti yparxei mia eniaia politikh h opoia akoloyqeitai stis eyrwpaikes xwres. Kai yparxei kai mia dyskolia sto na meiwqei o F.P.A., akomh kai an to hqele kapoios. Gnwrizete oti kaname mia prospaqeia gia to F.P.A. sta agrotika mhxanhmata. Htan allwste kai proeklogikh mas desmeysh. H Eyrwpaikh Enwsh den dinei thn dynatothta sth xwra h sthn opoiadhpote xwra na meiwsei to F.P.A. kata to dokoyn. Sas qymizw gia paradeigma - kai pisteyw oti den kanw laqos, to qymamai poly kala - oti prin apo ena- enamish xrono h Gallia prospaqhse na meiwsei to F.P.A. stis toyristikes ths epixeirhseis, qewrwntas oti einai mia apo tis basikes ths biomhxanies - gia mas einai, sigoyra, basikh biomhxania o toyrismos - kai den to epetyxe. Den proxwrhse ayto.

KAKALHS: O Prwqypoyrgos milwntas xqes gia th Naytilia den epanelabe thn ekklhsh gia sygkrathsh twn timwn poy eixe apeyqynei pro hmerwn stoys jenodoxoys. Ayto shmainei oti den yparxei qema gia thn kybernhsh akribwn naylwn sthn aktoploia h oti o Prwqypoyrgos me ayto ton tropo khryje to telos ths ekstrateias kata ths akribeias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Gnwrizete oti to exei kanei hdh kai o ypoyrgos Naytilias kai gnwrizete oti kapoies megales epixeirhseis exoyn anakoinwsei sygkrathsh timwn ston tomea ths Naytilias. Den shmainei oti eimaste apolytws ikanopoihmenoi alla pantws exei ginei ena shmantiko bhma ekei.

KYRITSHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, poso piqano qewreite na mpei pali h Oikonomia ypo epithrhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den to qewrw piqano. H Oikonomia etsi opws kinhqhkame ta teleytaia xronia exei dwsei deigmata grafhs se eyrwpaiko epipedo: Antagwnismoy, meiwshs twn elleimmatwn se pososta ta opoia problepontai apo thn ONE, meiwshs toy dhmosioy xreoys kai - mh sas koyrazw me perissoteres leptomereies - pantws sigoyra mias oikonomias h opoia einai arketa dynath. Kaqe Oikonomia dokimazetai ayth th periodo, kaqe Oikonomia xwras ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. O plhqwrismos exei anebei se oles tis xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, to gnwrizete apo osa syzhthsame nwritera kai pragma to opoio apodeiknyei to oti einai dieqnes fainomeno kai sigoyra paneyrwpaiko, alla oxi sto epipedo to opoio qetei h erwthsh sas.

KYRITSHS: Den yparxei kindynos, dhladh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eyxaristw.

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