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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Pempth, 22 Maioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 138590544

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 22 Maioy 2008

Xairete.

" Ayrio, Paraskeyh 23 Maioy kai Sabbato 24 Maioy, o Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs qa episkefqei th Qessalonikh, th Flwrina kai tis Serres. Ayrio, stis 12 to meshmeri, pragmatopoiei episkech sto 424 Geniko Stratiwtiko Nosokomeio Qessalonikhs kai stis 13.30, ston Agrotiko Synetairismo Eqnikoy Drymoy Prespwn, sth Flwrina. To Sabbato, stis 12 to meshmeri, qa milhsei o Prwqypoyrgos sth dihmerida toy Idrymatos ``Kwnstantinos Karamanlhs'', me thn episthmonikh symmetoxh toy Aristoteleioy Panepisthmioy Qessalonikhs, toy Panepisthmioy Makedonias kai toy T.E.I. Serrwn, enw stis 18.30 qa ginoyn ta apokalypthria andriantos Kwnstantinoy Karamanlh, sthn Prwth Serrwn.

" Opws, isws, gnwrizete, ek twn brabeyqentwn me brabeio Nompel Eirhnhs gia to 2007, o Proedros ths Diakybernhtikhs Epitrophs gia thn Klimatikh Allagh twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn doktwr Pasaoyi, apofasise na dianeimei th diakrish stoys episthmones poy symmeteixan stis meletes ths Epitrophs, anamesa stoys opoioys sygkatalegontai kai Ellhnes: Oi kaqhghtes Xrhstos Zerefos kai Alkibiadhs Mpahs, me toys synergates toys. H diakrish ayth einai mia megalh timh gia thn Ellada, me diplo oysiastiko kai symboliko periexomeno. O Prwqypoyrgos exei aposteilei sygxarhthrio thlegrafhma stoys brabeymenoys poy timoyn th xwra kai bebaiws, mas kanoyn oloys yperhfanoys.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KAKALHS: Apo th mia, h kybernhsh dhlwnei oti den syntrexei kanenas logos anhsyxias gia to diatrofiko skandalo me to hlielaio kai apo thn allh, aposyrei oles tis posothtes poy yparxoyn sta magazia. Telika, poio einai to mhnyma poy stelnei h kybernhsh; Yparxei logos anhsyxias kai ara, prostateyei th dhmosia ygeia h den yparxei kai ara prostateyei tis epixeirhseis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei ekdoqei anakoinwsh apo ton EFET, alla kai o armodios ypoyrgos ekane hdh apo thn Trith anakoinwseis ejw apo to Megaro Majimoy. Kai en synexeia, xqes, ejedwse analytikh anakoinwsh opoy anaferei toys logoys. Den exw na pw kati perissotero gia toys logoys aytoys.

KAKALHS: To mhnyma poy stelnete, poio einai sto kosmo; Gi` ayton, exei teleiwsei h ypoqesh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Synexizetai h ereyna, apo o,ti gnwrizete. Sas qymizw oti oi armodies Arxes eixan mia enhmerwsh gia mia partida epimolysmenoy hlielaioy. Oi partides aytes diakinhqhkan apo thn Oykrania, se Gallia, Italia, Ollandia, Ispania, Agglia, Elbetia, Ellada, Belgio, Germania, Loyjemboyrgo, Monako, Norbhgia, Oyggaria, Portogalia, Roymania, Soyhdia, Albania, Toyrkia, Gkana kai Maroko. Yphrxe, loipon, mia tetoia plhroforia. Egine elegxos. Apedeixqh oti h plhroforia htan alhqhs. En synexeia, to Geniko Xhmeio toy Kratoys, se synergasia me tis ypoloipes Arxes, dienhrghsan kai epipleon elegxoys. Apedeixqh oti kai se deytero fortio, apo ta fortia poy eixan erqei sth xwra mas stis arxes toy etoys, yphrxe antistoixh epimolynsh. Kai apofasisthke apo ton armodio ypoyrgo na aposyrqoyn toso to hlielaio, oso kai paragwga proionta, gia prolhptikoys logoys, afoy se deigmata toys, opws sas eipa, sto Geniko Xhmeio toy Kratoys, proekyce oti yparxei epimolynsh hdh se dyo partides. Ayth einai mia stoixeiwdhs antimetwpish thn opoia ofeilei h ellhnikh Politeia stoys Ellhnes katanalwtes.

PALAIOLOGOS: Wstoso, omws, k. Ypoyrge, qa symfwnhsete mazi mas, ennow me toys katanalwtes oti kaqe hmera anakalyptetai kai apo mia kainoyrgia partida epimolysmenoy hlielaioy kai ayto kati deixnei. Dhladh, deixnei oti yphrje plhmmelhs elegxos, den leitoyrghse kala o armodios foreas poy einai to Geniko Xhmeio toy Kratoys; Den leitoyrghse swsta o EFET; Den prolaban na doyn to olo qema oi foreis poy ypagontai sto ypoyrgeio Gewrgias, to nyn Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs; Yparxoyn kapoies eyqynes. Kai den to epishmainw egw. Nomizw oti einai hlioy faeinoteron. To lene kai to diatypwnoyn akomh kai stelexh kai boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias, ta opoia kai epikaloymai: Ton k. Maggina kai ton k. Tatoylh, oi opoioi lene oti yphrje sxetikh kaqysterhsh se olh ayth thn istoria apokalychs toy diatrofikoy skandaloy. H kybernhsh den qewrei oti yparxoyn eyqynes kai twn armodiwn arxwn, alla kai orismenwn politikwn stelexwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai polla ta erwthmata poy qetete se ena. Nomizw oti ta perissotera apo ayta exoyn hdh apanthqei. Den gnwrizw kai ara den mporw na sxoliasw dhlwseis allwn synadelfwn. Ekeino to opoio, omws, qa sas epanalabw  sas to eipa egw o idios proxqes, edw- einai oti stoys elegxoys poy dienergoyn oi Xhmikes Yphresies twn Telwneiwn sta hlielaia poy eisagontai apo trites xwres, den problepontai -kai den ginontai- elegxoi gia oryktelaia, opws den dienergoyntai elegxoi kai gia alles xhmikes enwseis. Gi` ayto to logo, se kanena telwneio, se kamia apo tis xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, den entopisthke ayth h epimolynsh. Sas qymizw oti sas eixa pei pws oi elegxoi den dienergoyntai se kaqe xwra gia epimolynseis apo opoiadhpote oysia, alla yparxei sygkekrimenos ariqmos katagegrammenwn oysiwn, oi opoies anazhtoyntai sth diarkeia enos elegxoy. Elegxos gia epimolynsh apo oryktelaio, opws sas eipa kai prin apo ligo -sas eixa pei kai tis proalles apo thn enhmerwsh poy eixa apo to armodio ypoyrgeio- den problepetai metajy twn elegxwn poy dienergoyn ta telwneia ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Gi` ayto kai den breqhke poyqena alloy, se allh xwra.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ayto, se o,ti afora ton tomea twn telwneiwn gia ton opoio mas eipate kai proxqes. Yparxei, omws...

ROYSOPOYLOS: To Geniko Xhmeio einai poy kanei thn analysh...

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, to Geniko Xhmeio toy Kratoys. Apo ekei kai pera, den jerw poia htan h synergasia...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayto poy qelw na pw einai oti an yparxei mia lista me stoixeia ta opoia anazhtoyntai apo ta proionta poy eisagontai, ston elegxo toy Xhmeioy, se ayth th lista den perilambanontai kapoia pragmata, opws perilambanontai kapoia alla. Kai den perilambanontan mexri twra kai den perilambanontai, giati profanws oi episthmones apofasizoyn gi` ayth th lista. Den einai politikh apofash, opws gnwrizete, ayto. Einai mia apofash episthmonwn. Gia toys x, c, logoys poy gnwrizoyn aytoi kalytera, apofasizoyn poia stoixeia epimolynshs perilambanoyn sthn ereyna toys kai poia oxi. Ean yparxei opoiadhpote yponoia, sas eipa tis proalles -h fysika an yparxei, opws egine sthn prwth fash edw, mia kataggelia- tote bebaiws ginontai ejeidikeymenoi elegxoi se peraiterw zhthmata.

TSORAKHS: To prwto deigma poy breqhke, breqhke sth Gallia. Gnwrizoyme me poia diadikasia, efoson kai sth Gallia kanoyn toys idioys elegxoys me edw, breqhke;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den to gnwrizw. Mporw, omws, na rwthsw kai na maqw. Alla, doqentos toy oti yparxei to armodio ypoyrgeio kai oi syntaktes poy kalyptoyn to reportaz, eimai bebaios oti exoyn brei eyhkoon oys poy toys akoyei kai apanta ta erwthmata toys. Egw, exw mia seira stoixeiwn  kapoia qemata gia ta opoia enhmerwqhka apo to armodio ypoyrgeio- prokeimenoy na sas dwsw mia genikh enhmerwsh. Qa parakalesw na apeyqynqeite sto armodio ypoyrgeio gia ta poly eidikotera  wstoso shmantika- qemata.

TSORAKHS: To erwthma htan: Mhpws yparxei genikotero problhma stoys elegxoys sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, dedomenoy oti se para polles xwres perase ayto to hlielaio, egine eisagwgh, den breqhke, tyxaia breqhke sth Gallia kai o mhxanismos den leitoyrghse se kamia xwra. Mhpws yparxei qema eyrytero kai oxi mono toy EFET;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den eimai se qesh na sas apanthsw, alla epeidh einai eyrytero politiko qema ayto poy qetete, mporw na rwthsw to armodio ypoyrgeio, na dw pws to exoyn antimetwpisei sth diakratikh syzhthsh poy fantazomai oti ginetai aytes tis hmeres kai na sas apanthsw ayrio.

KAKARNIAS: Sto qema twn Skopiwn: Th qesh ths kybernhshs thn exete pei kai eseis, thn eipe kai o Prwqypoyrgos xqes, sth Boylgaria. Ta mhnymata poy pairnoyme apo ta Skopia, poio einai to sxolio ths kybernhshs; Dhladh, an doyme tis xqesines dhlwseis toy Proedroy twn Skopiwn, mono qetika den mporei na ta krinei kapoios.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa kanw kanena sxolio. Kai den qa kanw, prwton gia toys logoys poy exw hdh pei, oti dhladh h ellhnikh kybernhsh exei topoqethqei dhmosiws dia ths armodias ypoyrgoy, dia toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto anwtato dynato epipedo -o Prwqypoyrgos exei milhsei perissotero ths mias foras- kai deyteron, antilambanetai kapoios oti h geitonikh xwra brisketai se proeklogikh periodo. Den exw, loipon, na sxoliasw ta osa legontai ayth thn periodo sth geitona xwra. Allwste, sas qymizw oti h diadikasia ston OHE einai anoikth. Emeis, mesw ayths ths diadikasias, prospaqoyme na broyme thn opoia lysh kai elpizoyme oti mporei na breqei ayth h lysh.

FANIDHS: Me aformh ta osa exoyn grafei kai akoystei gia thn anabolh ths stratiwtikhs askhshs ston Ai Strath, qa hqela na rwthsw ean telika einai h den einai apostratikopoihmenh zwnh o Ai Straths.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Edwsa, prin apo dyo hmeres edw sto press room, analytikh apanthsh. Egine, xqes sth Boylh, diejodikh syzhthsh sthn armodia Epitroph ths Boylhs, sthn opoia o armodios ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas k. Meimarakhs apanthse kai se ayto to erwthma kai se polla alla. Den exw na prosqesw tipote perissotero, to qema exei ejantlhqei.

FANIDHS: Epeidh yparxoyn polla dhmosieymata, gi` ayto epanhlqa sto qema.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sta dhmosieymata diakrinw oti dhqen yparxei problhma metajy dyo ypoyrgeiwn. Den yparxei tetoio problhma. Eimai se qesh na exw syzhthsei kai na gnwrizw, opws nomizw oti gnwrizete, pws egine analytikh kai se baqos syzhthsh, xqes, sthn armodia Epitroph ths Boylhs. An anatrejei kapoios sta praktika, qa diapistwsei ayto poy sas lew.

KAKALHS: Paradexqhkate kai eseis oti o entopismos ths noqeias me to oryktelaio den egine, akribws giati den problepotan na ginei kati tetoio apo thn isxyoysa nomoqesia. Dhladh, h kybernhsh qa adiaforhsei kai qa synexisei na yparxei ayto to diatrhto kaqestws poy epitrepei th diaiwnish kai th synexeia aytoy toy skandaloy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa kanw dyo parathrhseis sthn erwthsh sas, oi opoies mporei na qewrhqoyn oti den apoteloyn apanthsh sthn katakleida ths, alla kata th gnwmh moy einai apanthsh. Prwton, eipate oti paradexqhka kati. Sas qymizw oti den paradexqhka kati, egw sas to anakoinwsa.

KAKALHS: Sas eixa rwthsei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kai malista, grafthke stis efhmerides: Opws anakoinwqhke apo ton Kybernhtiko Ekproswpo den gnwrizame ayto kai to maqame.

KAKALHS: Mish alhqeia einai ayto kai h allh mish oti sas eixa rwthsei (den akoygetai).

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ara, loipon, se o,ti afora to an paradexqhka kati shmera, sas qymizw oti prin apo dyo hmeres hrqa enwpion sas kai sas eipa, me bash ta stoixeia poy sygkentrwsa apo to armodio ypoyrgeio, ti isxyei kai ti oxi. Deyteron, den einai qema nomoqetikhs ryqmishs. Dhladh, den apofasizei h Boylh gia to poia stoixeia ereynwntai. Den apofasizetai se nomo sth Boylh, giati katalabainoyme oloi oti h nomoqetikh ryqmish parapempei se ena nomo poy qa syzhthsoyn ta kommata ths Boylhs kai qa apofasisoyn an qa einai, gia paradeigma, to kobaltio h oxi, an qa perilambanetai stis ereynes poy ginontai to tade tojiko h xhmiko. Se kamia periptwsh, den parembainei h politikh syzhthsh sthn episthmonikh koinothta gia na ths ypodeijei poia qa einai ta stoixeia. An h episthmonikh koinothta pisteyei oti ta stoixeia poy prepei na anazhtoyntai sta trofima einai mia lista me 50 stoixeia, ayta ta stoixeia qa anazhtoyntai stoys elegxoys poy ginontai.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, alla o laos den eklegei thn episthmonikh koinothta, eklegei thn kybernhsh gia na frontizei kai na prostateyei th dhmosia ygeia. Edw, h kybernhsh exei tis eyqynes otan blepei oti yparxei diatrofiko skandalo. Yparxoyn politikes eyqynes kai den einai dokimo na tis metaqetete sthn episthmonikh koinothta.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa meinw perissotero sto qema, giati nomizw oti exw apanthsei. Oi eidikoi episthmones qewroyn oti qa prepei na ginontai elegxoi  kai ayto oxi mono se ellhniko epipedo, giati sas eipa oti aytes einai oi prodiagrafes tiqentai se eyrwpaiko epipedo. Den einai jafnika oti hrqe to PASOK xqes ws kybernhsh, h Nea Dhmokratia shmera kai eipe qa elegxontai ayta kai den qa elegxontai ta alla. H episthmonikh koinothta, se eyrwpaiko epipedo, exei orisei tis prodiagrafes. An prepei na allajoyn oi prodiagrafes, giati h zwh mas allazei, erxontai kaqhmerinws sth zwh mas nea dedomena, sth dhmosiothta arga h grhgora, ayta ta dedomena mporei na orisoyn, endexomenws, mia allh matia sthn episthmonikh koinothta. Den einai, omws, h politikh poy qa epibalei ayth th matia sthn episthmonikh koinothta.

KATSABOY: Xqes, o ypoyrgos Anaptyjhs k. Fwlias synanthqhke me ton Proedro toy PASOK, meta apo prosklhsh toy idioy toy k. Papandreoy. Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean o k. Papandreoy proskalesei gia enhmerwsh ton k. Alogoskoyfh h thn k. Mpakogiannh  jerw oti einai ypoqetikh erwthsh- qa hqela na maqw an einai sthn proqesh ths kybernhshs na antapokriqei mesa apo thn prosklhsh ayth, an kai efoson ginei, se mia tetoia synanthsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na qymisw oti ayth h kybernhsh se ola ta zhthmata -kai mias kai anaferate kai ta megala qemata ths oikonomias kai ths eqnikhs mas ejwterikhs politikhs- pantote enhmerwne ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs. Opote zhthqhke enhmerwsh, apo opoiondhpote arxhgo, alla kai apo stelexh ths antipoliteyshs, ayth doqhke. Qa sas dwsw ena paradeigma: O neos ypeyqynos toy PASOK gia ta zhthmata ejwterikhs politikhs, k. Andreas Loberdos, moy zhthse pro oligwn hmerwn, me epistolh toy, na exei enhmerwsh, wsan ayth poy exw egw apo ta grafeia Typoy toy ejwterikoy, gia ta dhmosieymata twn efhmeridwn, gia zhthmata poy apasxoloyn to dieqnh Typo, ta dieqnh MME anaforika me th xwra mas. Amesws to grafeio toy eixe ayth thn enhmerwsh. Kai thn exei, en antiqesei, bebaiws, me ayto to opoio eixa egw ws ekproswpos Typoy ths antipoliteyshs, poy zhtoysa kai den eixa. Den exei shmasia. Emeis exoyme ayth thn antilhch se ola ta qemata. Den hrqa na to anakoinwsw panhgyrika, opws den anakoinwnetai kai mia seira apo antistoixes enhmerwseis poy mporei na zhtoyn oi ypeyqynoi diaforwn tomewn ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs kai oxi monon, alla kai apo alla kommata ths antipoliteyshs. Arxhgos mikroteroy kommatos ths antipoliteyshs exei hdh episkefqei orismenoys ypoyrgoys kai enhmerwnetai gia qemata ths armodiothtas toys. Sto plaisio ths koinoboyleytikhs mas Dhmokratias, qewrw poly shmantiko na yparxei aytos o dialogos  o opoios den ginetai men sthn aiqoysa toy Koinoboylioy- ws neo hqos sthn politikh. Epitrecte moy na epairomai, legontas oti ayto exei eisaxqei apo thn kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias.

TERZHS: Mporeite tote na moy ejhghsete, se ayto to skeptiko poy molis anaptyjate, th diaforetikh antimetwpish ths ypoqeshs toy OTE apo ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H sygkekrimenh ypoqesh mporei na exei kapoies leptomereies, tis opoies gnwrizoyme pia oloi giati anakoinwqhkan, opws gia paradeigma oti zhthqhke mia enhmerwsh thn idia h thn epomenh hmera poy eixe ypografei ayth h symfwnia. Kai zhthqhke to keimeno protoy kala-kala oloklhrwqei h epejergasia poy prepei na ginei sta armodia organa. Ayto poy eipe, loipon, o k. Alogoskoyfhs einai oti ``qa dwsw to keimeno sth Boylh''. Exw thn entypwsh oti yparxoyn kai orismena alla zhthmata, opws gia paradeigma  den exw leptomereies, alla qa sas parapemcw ston k. Alogoskoyfh, poy apoysiazei ayth th stigmh stis HPA, otan epistrecei- h opoia epikoinwnia h synomilia yphrje metajy toy ypoyrgoy kai twn ekproswpwn ths antipoliteyshs poy thlefwnhsan. An moy thlefwnhsei kapoios apo thn antipoliteysh kai moy zhthsei kati, bebaiws kai qa to dwsw. An to dw grammeno thn epomenh hmera stis efhmerides prin kan toy to dwsw, antilambaneste oti pia den einai qema poy ginetai gia thn enhmerwsh, ginetai mallon gia tis entypwseis. Kai edw fobamai oti paixqhke ena pedio perissotero politikwn entypwsewn, para oysiastikhs enhmerwshs.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa moy epitrecete na epimeinw sto qema toy diatrofikoy skandaloy. Qelw na rwthsw to ejhs: Ypotiqetai qewrhtika kai epi toy prakteoy h apopomph toy Proedroy toy EFET shmainei praktika kai analhch twn eyqynwn gia ton plhmmelh elegxo oloy aytoy toy skandaloy. Dyo einai ta erwthmata. Ti einai ekeino poy qa mas profylajei sto mellon apo ena analogo diatrofiko skandalo gia ena allo proion, dhladh pws mporoyme na exoyme empistosynh stis armodies arxes oti qa prolaboyn ena tyxon allo diatrofiko skandalo gia ena allo proion, opws to hlielaio, kai to deytero, an telika ektos apo tis eyqynes poy anelabe o Proedros toy EFET yparxoyn kai genikoteres eyqynes ypoyrgwn kai sygkekrimena toy k. Fwlia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ean meta apo ola ayta poy sas eipa gia toys elegxoys, ton tropo poy ginontai se paneyrwpaiko epipedo, h erwthsh sas einai ayth, den exw kapoia apanthsh. Den yparxei apanthsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den yparxei apanthsh sto an yparxoyn politikes eyqynes toy k. Fwlia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai safes giati den yparxei apanthsh. Giati me rwtate, an exei politikes eyqynes o ypoyrgos gia ton elegxo poy ginetai me bash to ti episthmones exoyn qesei ws prodiagrafes se eyrwpaiko epipedo. Antilambaneste oti oso kai na qelw na antimetwpisw to erwthma sas me logikh kai me kalh diaqesh, den mporw, sygkroyetai.

PALAIOLOGOS: Alla, nomizw oti qa symfwnhsete mazi moy oti oi katanalwtes, endexomenws epeidh polloi apo aytoys einai oikogeneiarxes, opws eseis, endiaferontai gia thn ygeia twn paidiwn toys kai oxi mono genikotera gia thn ennoia ths dhmosias ygeias, alla nomizw oti yparxoyn kai einai eyloges oi anhsyxies, ean yparjei kai sto mellon  den jerw pote, to apeyxomai, opws oloi mas- ena analogo skandalo, oxi gia to hlielaio, alla gia kapoio allo proion, to opoio qa mas erqei oxi mono apo thn Oykrania, alla apo opoydhpote alloy. Dhladh, ti exeggya yparxoyn, den milaw mono se epipedo episthmoniko, alla milaw se ena genikotero koinwniko epipedo, oti mporei na prolhfqei ena analogo diatrofiko skandalo sto mellon.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kat` arxas, me aformh thn parathrhsh poy kanate sthn prwth sas erwthsh -xairomai na pw oti thn akoysa poly eyxarista, giati me prokalesate eyxarista panta, opws kanete- qelw na sas pw oti den tiqetai qema prwtoy kai deyteroy plhqyntikoy. To lew ayto, giati eipate sthn prwth sas erwthsh, prin apo ligh wra, ``emeis'' kai ``eseis''. Oi opoioi anqrwpoi briskontai sthn kybernhsh, sto kybernwn komma h sthn politikh ejoysia kai aytoi einai oikogeneiarxes me paidia. Ara, loipon, labete ypoch sas oti erwthmata poy tiqentai apo toys polites, tiqentai antistoixws kai apo toys politikoys olwn twn politikwn xwrwn.

PALAILOGOS: An qewreite oti ekana diaxwrismo, oxi den qelhsa na ton kanw, isa-isa poy sas symperielaba.

ROYSOPOYLOS: En antiqesei me to erwthma poy egine sthn arxh. Oson afora to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, peite moy me th logikh, ti perissotero mporei na sas pei kapoios me bash tis prodiagrafes poy exoyn teqei apo thn episthmonikh koinothta. Den tiqentai me nomo aytes oi prodiagrafes. Na eiste poly epifylaktikos ean erqei pote kapoia kybernhsh kai pei me nomo, xwris na exei prohghqei h eishghsh ths episthmonikhs koinothtas, xwris thn episthmonikh gnwsh kaneis den gnwrizei poia einai ta stoixeia poy prepei na elegxontai h oxi. Ean h episthmonikh koinothta erqei twra kai pei oti metajy twn 5, 10, 15 stoixeiwn poy einai pros ejetash stis prodiagrafes poy exei qesei, prostiqentai kai ayto kai ekeino kai to allo, bebaiws etsi prepei na ginetai. Alla, sas epanalambanw oti den yphrxan se aytes tis prodiagrafes. Se o,ti afora to qema ths epikindynothtas, ayto einai ena allo zhthma, exei anaferqei o k. Fwlias se ayto, exei anaferqei o EFET. Giati prepei na qetoyme ta pragmata sth swsth toys diastash. Na mh dhmioyrgeitai entypwsh, mikroterh h megalyterh, apo ayth poy yparxei. Kai se ayto, pali den mporei na sas pei h politikh h o opoios politikos, xwris na exei thn eishghsh twn episthmonwn, thn episthmonikh gnwsh.

TROYPIWTHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, na epistrecw sthn erwthsh ths k. Katsaboy. Eipate oti enhmerwnete ta stelexh twn kommatwn. Einai allo na enhmerwnete ta stelexh twn kommatwn kai allo o arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs na kalei ypoyrgoys. Ypeqeta oti toys ypoyrgoys toys kalei monon o Prwqypoyrgos. Den jerw an qa synexistei ayto kai an ayto to qewreite eseis oti ginetai gia logoys epikoinwniakoys.

ROYSOPOYLOS: O arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs einai qesmikos paragwn. Dikaioytai na exei enhmerwsh apo toys ypoyrgoys poy einai armodioi gia kaqe tomea. Apo ekei kai pera, einai qema politikhs symperiforas. Kai anelysa ayth thn politikh symperifora poy akoloyqei h dikh mas kybernhsh, apantwntas sthn erwthsh. Ws antipoliteysh qymamai oti synodeya ton nyn Prwqypoyrgo, arxhgo tote ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, ton k. Karamanlh, se synanthseis poy eixan ginei se kapoia ypoyrgeia. O k. Karamanlhs eixe thn apoch oti eprepe na phgainei o idios sta ypoyrgeia kai na enhmerwnetai. Eixame paei, as poyme, sto ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynhs kai eixe ginei enhmerwsh gia polla zhthmata. Pantws, to na yparxei mia enhmerwsh apo thn kybernhsh pros thn antipoliteysh kai malista me th diaqesh thn opoia exei deijei h shmerinh kybernhsh, dhladh na paei o ypoyrgos ston arxhgo ths antipoliteyshs, efoson to zhthsei sto grafeio toy, emeis qewroyme oti einai kati to opoio den mas qigei politika kaqoloy. Antiqetws, pisteyw oti ejeygenizei akoma perissotero ta politika hqh, dinei pragmatikh diastash sto politiko politismo ton opoio polles fores epaggelqhkame kai ws antipoliteysh kai ws kybernhsh.

KAKALHS: Pws sxoliazete to gegonos oti h UNILEVEL, gnwsth etaireia- monopwlio sto xwro twn trofimwn exei syntajei kai ekdwsei ton odhgo ``basikes arxes ygieinhs gia ta trofima'' poy diakinei o EFET.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw ayto to opoio moy anaferete. Qa prepei na rwthsw to armodio ypoyrgeio kai na sas dwsw mia apanthsh.

KAKALHS: Epishs giati milate gia qema epikindynothtas; Den einai gnwsto oti den yparxoyn oria sto oryktelaio giati den prepei na yparxei kanonika oryktelaio sta trofima; Giati bazete qema epikindynothtas afoy einai gnwsto oti aqroizetai. Einai tojiko kai aqroizetai. Me ayto ton tropo ti epixeirei na kanei h kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den diekdikhsa pote episthmonikh gnwsh sto qema, opws fantazomai kai kaneis ej ymwn, ektos kai an exei spoydasei xhmikos. Den exei shmasia, omws, to ti diekdikw h den diekdikw egw h kapoios apo toys dhmosiografoys poy einai sto press room. Exei shmasia oti oi apanthseis poy didontai apo th dikh moy pleyra, didontai me bash ta stoixeia poy antlw apo ta armodia organa. Synomilw me ta armodia ypoyrgeia (ta ypoyrgeia exoyn mia seira sygkekrimenwn yphresiwn), me toys episthmonikoys foreis poy gnwrizoyn. Th gnwsh ayth sas exw metaferei, sto baqmo poy prepei na metaferei o Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos. O idios o ypoyrgos exei kanei ejairetika analytikes kai katatopistikes anakoinwseis kai ws pros to qema poy moy qesate. Den exw na sas pw kati perissotero.

KAKALHS: O ypoyrgos, me sygxwreite, eipe oti den exei problhma na faei poly hlielaio. Epeidh den mporei na ginei eykola pisteytos, einai logia ayta; Mhpws exei skopo na paei se kapoio taxyfageio na ton doyme na to trwei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Emaqa oti proskalesate ton anaplhrwth moy k. Antwnaro, alla blepw oti den kanete to idio kai me mena. Den me kaleite.

KAKALHS: To kaname, ti lete kai eseis...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den jerw giati ayth h diakritikh metaxeirish.

KAKALHS: Wraia peste mas, eseis to trwte; Trwte eseis hlielaio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa oti oloi zoyme sthn idia koinwnia. Oloi eimaste anqrwpoi poy mporei na exoyme oikogeneia, mikrh h megalh, den exei shmasia. Noiazomaste gia ayta ta qemata kai antilambaneste oti kai egw apo thn pleyra moy endiaferomai para poly, opws endiafereste kai eseis. Se o,ti afora thn episthmonikh koinothta den exw kanena logo na amfisbhthsw ta osa leei.

KAKALHS: Alla den trwte.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa sas apantoysa, opws sas apanthse o k. Antwnaros, brhka poly endiaferoysa thn apanthsh toy: Sth xwra ths elias kai toy ladioy, kalo qa einai na timoyme ta dika mas proionta, ta opoia allwste prospaqoyme na prowqhsoyme sto ejwteriko.

KAKALHS: Eipe to idio, omws, o k. Fwlias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exete para na kanete prajh thn prosklhsh sas kai na deite thn apanthsh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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