Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-01-24

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Pempth, 24 Ianoyarioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 117644728

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 24 Ianoyarioy 2008

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SPYRAKH: Exete ypoch sas, ti ginetai me thn anakoinwsh toy k. Koykodhmoy;

ANTWNAROS: Opws sas eipa kai xqes me to qema asxoleitai o Genikos Grammateas ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas k. Giannhs Tragakhs, o opoios ejedwse, meta th synanthsh mas, sxetikh anakoinwsh. Apo thn anakoinwsh ayth, sthn opoia kai sas parapempw, prokyptei oti o boyleyths exei desmeytei na probei sthn ekdosh analytikhs anakoinwshs.

SPYRAKH: Exete eikona, poso xrono xreiazetai;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw kati allo.

PALAIOLOGOS: Giati, omws, exei kaqysterhsei na probei se anakoinwsh, sth neoterh toy anakoinwsh, o k. Koykodhmos; Den enisxyei thn entypwsh oti edw mporei na yparxei ena ``mageirema'', gyrw apo ayth thn istoria;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw kati sta osa molis eipa.

PALAIOLOGOS: Arneiste to ``mageirema'' dhladh; Oti yparxei ``mageirema'' h oti perimenei tis topoqethseis kapoioy alloy;

ANTWNAROS: Aytes einai dikes sas ekfraseis, tis opoies egw, bebaiws, den ensternizomai.

SPYRAKH: Exete ypoch sas dhmosieymata poy anaferoyn to endexomeno na askhqei diwjh se baros toy k. Andrianoy gia th lhch toy epimaxoy optikoakoystikoy ylikoy kai gia thn krathsh sto grafeio toy (den akoygetai) to xrono poy briskotan sth Mosxa me ton Prwqypoyrgo;

ANTWNAROS: Erwthqhka kai xqes, me paremferh tropo, gia to idio qema kai topoqethqhka me apolyth safhneia. H sxetikh apanthsh ejakoloyqei, bebaiws, na isxyei sto akeraio.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, se sxesh me thn ypoqesh toy DVD, den jerw pws, alla o k. Anastasiadhs, xqes, se dhlwseis toy, dhmosies topoqethseis toy, milhse gia skeywria enantion toy kai eipe xarakthristika oti h skeywria ayth einai mpoymerangk. Eipe xarakthristika th frash ``mpoymerangk h skeywria enantion moy''. Epimenete oti o k. Anastasiadhs, einai aytos poy edwse to DVD ston k. Andriano;

ANTWNAROS: Exoyme erwthqei epaneilhmmenws kai o k. Roysopoylos kai egw kai exoyme topoqethqei me tropo, o opoios perigrafei me apolyth akribeia, ti exoyme pei dhmosia.

KAKALHS: Pisteyete oti einai adikaiologhth h apoch poy exei diamorfwsei h syntriptikh pleiochfia toy kosmoy, efta stoys deka polites, poy qewroyn oti h ypoqesh Zaxopoyloy plhttei proswpika ton idio ton Prwqypoyrgo; Me dedomeno oti h kybernhsh exei pei oti den empleketai se olh ayth thn istoria.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei kanei sto akeraio to kaqhkon ths. Ayto einai apolytws safes kai apodeiknyetai apo oles tis draseis, th symperifora kai tis energeies ths kybernhshs.

KAKALHS: Ayto to lete ena mhna, alla einai profanes oti den exete peisei. Ayto pws to ejhgeite;

ANTWNAROS: De sxoliazw pote, opws gnwrizete, metrhseis ths koinhs gnwmhs.

ROYMELIWTHS: Ektos apo thn anakoinwsh toy k. Koykodhmoy, eixate erwthqei toso eseis, oso kai o k. Roysopoylos, an prokeitai o Prwqypoyrgos na kalesei to sygkekrimeno boyleyth kai eixate zhthsei na ginei oloklhrwmenh kataggelia gia na maqoyme to onoma toy. Twra, poy gnwrizoyme to onoma toy, isxyei ayto to endexomeno;

ANTWNAROS: Den ayth h akribhs apanthsh poy dwsame. En pash periptwsei, sto qema toy boyleyth, den exw na pw tipote perissotero, apo ayto to opoio eipa sthn arxikh erwthsh, thn opoia moy ypebale h synadelfos sas, h k. Spyrakh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Emena omws, qa moy epitrecete na epanelqw. Kai epeidh parapemcate sthn anakoinwsh toy k. Tragakh, na th diabasw, den koyrazomai: ``Eixa mia thlefwnikh epikoinwnia me to synadelfo k. Koykodhmo kai ton rwthsa an isxyei h dhlwsh poy eixe kanei pro hmerwn gia to qema ayto. Me diabebaiwse oti isxyei h dhlwsh kai qa probei se neoterh analytikh anakoinwsh''. Sth dhlwsh toy, o k. Koykodhmos, an qymaste kala, egw qymamai, eixe pei oti den exei kamia emplokh sto qema ayto, thn paramikrh emplokh. Kai malista, an qymaste epishs kala, apeiloyse me mhnyseis opoion ton enepleke. Twra ti ginetai;

ANTWNAROS: Poia akribws einai h erwthsh sas;

PALAIOLOGOS: Twra poy apokalyfqhke oti einai aytos, ws diamesolabhths, ws mesazwn, den jerw kai egw pws...Giati den proxwrei stis apeiles, entos h ektos eisagwgikwn;

ANTWNAROS: Me to qema asxoleitai o Grammateas ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas k. Giannhs Tragakhs, o opoios epikoinwnhse xqes me to boyleyth kai meta apo thn epikoinwnia ayth, ejedwse thn anakoinwsh thn opoia, pragmati, pista diabasate. Sas eipa shmera, symplhrwmatika, oti o boyleyths exei desmeyqei na probei se analytikh anakoinwsh.

SPYRAKH: Qelw na rwthsw, ean o k. Kladas ejakoloyqei na xairei ths empistosynhs ths kybernhshs, giati yparxoyn plhrofories apo to dikastiko reportaz, oti yparxoyn kapoia kena stoys xeirismoys toy se sxesh me ton elegxo ths ypoqeshs twn 5,5 ekatommyriwn eyrw.

ANTWNAROS: Erwthqhke, opws sas eipa kai xqes o Ypoyrgos k. Alogoskoyfhs gia to idio qema kai topoqethqhke sth synenteyjh thn opoia paraxwrhse xqes stoys synadelfoys sas toy oikonomikoy reportaz.

PERDIKARHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela mia dieykrinish sto qema toy k. Koykodhmoy, pali: Gia poio logo telikws eklhqh na dwsei ejhghseis sto Geniko Grammatea ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas; Kai to lew ayto, se syndyasmo me thn apanthsh poy dwsate se erwthsh synadelfoy, prin apo ligo, oti den eipate thn perasmenh ebdomada oti eprepe na ginei oloklhrwmenh kataggelia.

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa ayto. Se sygkekrimenh erwthsh, syndeqhke h apanthsh poy eixe doqei se allo erwthma poy eixe ypoblhqei thn perasmenh ebdomada. En pash periptwsei, den exw na pw gia to qema toy boyleyth tipote perissotero apo ayto poy sas eipa molis pro oligoy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Efoson ton kalese o k. Tragakhs ton k. Koykodhmo, ypoqetw oti o k. Koykodhmos qa paei kai ston Eisaggelea efoson klhqei. Opws klhqhke kai o k. Triantafyllopoylos.

ANTWNAROS: Den topoqetoymai, bebaia, se ypoqetika erwthmata.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas peite ti qa syzhthsei o Toyrkos Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn me thn k. Mpakogiannh gia th ``meionothta sth Dytikh Qrakh'', opws eipe xqes o k. Erntogan;

ANTWNAROS: Gia ola ta qemata twn synomiliwn poy ginontai ekei, enhmerwnei toys synadelfoys sas o k. Roysopoylos.

FANIDHS: O k. Koykodhmos einai fanero oti -eipe o synadelfos prin apo ligo- qa prospaqhsei, profanws, etsi, na koykoylwqei to qema, ekane mia ektimhsh o k. Palaiologos. Egw lew to ejhs: Den prepei na gnwrizei h koinh gnwmh poios einai diamesolabhths; Giati den exoyme ayth th stigmh apo esas kapoia stoixeia. Jeroyme oti eklhqh o k. Koykodhmos apo ton k. Tragakh kai perimenoyme pote qa dwsei o k. Koykodhmos thn peribohth apanthsh h enhmerwsh pros ta Mesa. Dhladh, den prepei na maqoyme;

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw: Exei desmeytei o boyleyths na ekdwsei anakoinwsh. Den exw na pw kati peran aytoy.

GKATSIOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h antidrash ths kybernhshs sthn ypoqesh Koykodhmoy, qa htan diaforetikh an den yphrxe h pleiochfia twn 152 boyleytwn;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei mia pagia symperifora.

TSIOYFOS: To exw janarwthsei, eikazw thn apanthsh, alla qa to janarwthsw: Sxetizetai h ypo diereynhsh ypoqesh sthn opoia empleketai o k. Koykodhmos kai o k. Kladas, dhladh h kataqesh toy k. Anastasiadh, me thn emplokh toy idioy dhmosiografoy sthn ypoqesh Zaxopoyloy;

ANTWNAROS: Den jerw, einai antikeimeno ths dikastikhs ereynas. Den qa ypeiselqw stis leptomereies ths dikastikhs ereynas, se kamia periptwsh.

TROYPIWTHS: 'Exei h kybernhsh kamia plhroforia gia piqanh paraithsh, apo to boyleytiko ajiwma, toy k. Koykodhmoy;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw, gia to sygkekrimeno qema, na sas pw tipote perissotero, apo osa sas eipa.

KAKALHS: H Nea Dhmokratia, ws komma kai h kybernhsh akoma, den exei kapoia eyqynh, na enhmerwsei toys chfoforoys ths, na kanei mia ereyna gia thn ypoqesh, na enhmerwsei toys chfoforoys kai na topoqethqei ti exei symbei me ayth thn istoria; Den yparxei politikh eyqynh; Mono atomikh eyqynh yparxei;

ANTWNAROS: Profanws, den egine antilhpto ayto to opoio eipa xqes: Oti dhladh o Genikos Grammateas ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ths Neas Dhmokratias, o k. Tragakhs, asxoleitai me to qema, epikoinwnhse me to boyleyth kai ejedwse sxetikh anakoinwsh. Den mporw, loipon na antilhfqw, giati apeyqynete th momfh pros to komma ths Neas Dhmokratias -toy opoioy egw den eimai ekproswpos se ayth thn aiqoysa - oti den kanei tipote. To briskw adiko.

KAKALHS: Den exete dwsei kamia apanthsh. Ayto lew. Einai mia ypoqesh, h opoia aiwreitai kai den exete dwsei kamia apanthsh.

RABANOS: Na synexisw sthn idia ypoqesh toy k. Koykoydhmoy. As ypoqesoyme oti o k. Tragakhs epikoinwnhsei, opws epikoinwnhse, me ton k. Koykodhmo, akoyse tis apoceis toy kai dei kai thn anakoinwsh poy anakoinwsei argotera o k. Koykodhmos.

SPYRAKH: Pote argotera;

RABANOS: Pote argotera, pote; Na synexisw, sygnwmh. Perimenoyme thn anakoinwsh toy k. Koykodhmoy, doyme ti leei kai gia thn kybernhsh to qema qewreitai lhjan. Ara, pairnoyme thn ypoqesh ergasias, oti o k. Koykodhmos den empleketai se ayth thn ypoqesh. H kybernhsh den aisqanetai thn anagkh na maqei, na kanei enan eswteriko elegxo, poios einai aytos o boyleyths o opoios feretai na empleketai sthn ypoqesh; Den qelete na to maqete; H, na epanelqw sto erwthma toy k. Gkatsioy, o fobos twn 152 sas apotrepei apo thn opoiadhpote kinhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Erwthqhka xqes apantwntas se allo, bebaiws, erwthma kai eipa oti h kybernhsh den exei tipote na fobhqei. H apanthsh ayth isxyei sto akeraio kai gia to diko sas erwthma. Sas eipa, loipon, oti h diadikasia einai ayth thn opoia sas periegraca xqes kai sas epanelaba shmera.

RABANOS: Na epanelqw. Pali, ypoqesh ergasias, oti den einai o k. Koykodhmos. Oi ejhghseis poy dinei to apogeyma, einai peistikes gia ton k. Tragakh kai thn kybernhsh. Teleiwnei to qema. O boyleyths o opoios feretai na empleketai, to onoma toy, den apasxolei thn kybernhsh; Den thn problhmatizei, poios htan aytos o boyleyths o opoios ekane ``synallagh'';

ANTWNAROS: H enhmerwsh toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy de ginetai me ypoqeseis ergasias.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa epanelqw, omws egw, sth dhlwsh toy k. Tragakh. O k. Tragakhs poyqena, se kanena shmeio ths anakoinwshs toy, de leei oti oi apanthseis poy edwse o k. Koykodhmos einai peistikes h eparkeis. Synhqws, ap` oti jerw, se diafores anakoinwseis, oi diaceyseis h oi epibebaiwseis krinontai aneparkeis h eparkeis. Edw den yparxei tipote tetoio. Na ypoqesw, loipon egw, ws kakentrexhs poy eimai, oti einai aneparkeis oi ejhghseis poy edwse o k. Koykodhmos;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw, na apeyqynqeite ston k. Tragakh. H anakoinwsh einai toy k. Tragakh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, alla den to anaferei kaqoloy sth dhlwsh toy k. Tragakhs.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa, oti me to qema asxoleitai o k. Tragakhs. Den exete para na apeyqynqeite ston k. Tragakh.

RABANOS: O k. Tragakhs energei monos toy; Den epikoinwnei me thn kybernhsh, den yparxei epikoinwnia Majimoy kai Grammateias Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Tragakhs exei sygkekrimeno qesmiko rolo sta plaisia ths leitoyrgias toy Koinoboylioy kai sta plaisia ths leitoyrgias ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ths Neas Dhmokratias.

SPYRAKH: Gia thn kybernhsh einai yparkto to proswpo toy boyleyth poy synomilhse me to dhmosiografo Makh Triantafyllopoylo, opws o idios kataggellei kai to opoio metefere, kata ton k. Triantafyllopoylo, mhnyma apo ton k. Klada;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw kati.

PALAIOLOGOS: Egw qa epikalestw kai allh mia dhlwsh, xqes, poy ekane dhmosia o k. Zagoriths, o opoios einai o Grammateas ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs ths Neas Dhmokratias, poy eipe ``gia thn ypoqesh ayth, na eiste bebaioi oti qa jekaqarisei para poly grhgora''. Anarwtiemai poso grhgora.

ANTWNAROS: To ``anarwtiemai'' emperiexei, synhqws, erwthma poy apeyqynei kaneis ston eayto toy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epikalesthka, omws, mia dhlwsh oxi dikh moy. Epikalesthka mia dhlwsh enos proswpoy poy exei qesmiko rolo, opws qa legate kai eseis, kai sto komma kai sth Nea Dhmokratia.

Sas eyxaristw.

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