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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 23 Ianoyarioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 117508274

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 23 Ianoyarioy 2008

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes katonomasthke apo diakekrimeno dhmosiografo, apo ton k. Xatzhnikolaoy, o boyleyths Kwstas Koykodhmos, ws o mesolabhths anamesa ston k. Makh Triantafyllopoylo kai ton k. Spyro Klada. Peran toy diadikastikoy, to opoio einai oti ton kalei o k. Tragakhs kai ola ayta ta jeroyme, qelw na rwthsw, poies einai oi epomenes energeies ths kybernhshs. Giati, o k. Koykodhmos exei kanei hdh dhmosies dhlwseis, poy lene oti den exei kamia sxesh me thn ypoqesh.

ANTWNAROS: Asxoleitai me to qema o k. Tragakhs, o Genikos Grammateas ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ths Neas Dhmokratias, kai qa enhmerwqeite apo ayton, entos ths hmeras.

PALAIOLOGOS: H ypoqesh, omws, opws jerete kai eseis, afora dyo proswpa, h mallon tria: Ton k. Triantafyllopoylo, ws dhmosiografo, ton k. Koykodhmo, ws mesolabhth-boyleyth kai ton k. Klada. Thn ypoqesh toy k. Klada, poios thn analambanei;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei oti sas eipa molis.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, ennooysate ton k. Tragakh. Allo sas lew egw.

ANTWNAROS: Kai sas apanthsa. Gia to sygkekrimeno qema, qa enhmerwqeite apo ton k. Tragakh...

PALAIOLOGOS: Oson afora to boyleyth. Edw milame gia kratiko ajiwmatoyxo. Egw sas rwtaw allo pragma.

ANTWNAROS: Katalhgete se symperasmata, ta opoia den einai etsi, opws ta paroysiazete eseis, ayth th stigmh.

SARANTAKOS: Yparxei periptwsh na klhqei o k. Koykodhmos apo ton Prwqypoyrgo; Kai to lew ayto, dioti o k. Triantafyllopoylos eixe pei oti o boyleyths, ton opoio katonomase o k. Xatzhnikolaoy, thn egkyrothta toy opoioy den amfisbhteite, fantazomai, oyte eseis, eipe oti qa milhsei o boyleyths aytos gia ola ta qemata kai qa pei thn plhrh alhqeia ston Prwqypoyrgo. Yparxei qema na ton fwnajei o k. Karamanlhs, molis gyrisei apo thn Agkyra;

ANTWNAROS: Molis topoqethqhka ep` aytoy. Entos ths hmeras, qa enhmerwqeite apo ton Geniko Grammatea ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes yphrje mia nea diastash sto qema Zaxopoyloy. Fainetai, telika, oti kapoioi exoyn ypoch toys kai to amontaristo yliko, meros toy opoioy brisketai hdh sta xeria toy Anakrith. Exei kanei kapoies energeies h kybernhsh gia na entopisei ayto to yliko, mesw toy armodioy Ypoyrgeioy, afoy anamfisbhthta qa dieykolynei kai thn poreia twn ereynwn;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa sas exoyme pei o k. Roysopoylos kai o ypofainomenos tis teleytaies hmeres, sxetika me to monadiko yliko poy parelabe h kybernhsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh akoygetai esxatws, to teleytaio 24wro, oti ws kybernhsh katonomasate telika ton dhmosiografo, o opoios edwse to DVD ston k. Andriano, isxyei oti ton katonomasate;

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw, loipon, na diabasete me thn prosoxh...

PALAIOLOGOS: Me th deoysa, to exw diabasei, kyrie Ekproswpe. Kai me qrhskeytikh eylabeia.

ANTWNAROS: Na diabasete me thn prosoxh, thn opoia epideiknyete kata thn askhsh twn kaqhkontwn sas -kai einai gnwsth se oloys- loipon, thn plhrh epishmh apomagnhtofwnhsh toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi. Allo sas rwtaw: An diaceydei h epibebaiwnei h kybernhsh pws katonomasate to dhmosiografo poy edwse to DVD ston k. Andriano.

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw, gia mia akomh fora, na diabasete thn apomagnhtofwnhsh.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o k. Soyflias synergazetai me thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh gia zhthmata periballontos h opws afhnei na ennohqei o k. Dhmas, kanei toy kefalioy toy; Afoy symfwna me synenteyjh toy Ellhna Epitropoy, sthn ``KAQHMERINH'', o k. Soyflias einai o monos apo toys Eyrwpaioys Ypoyrgoys Periballontos, poy den exei episkefqei pote thn Epitroph, h opoia epidiwkei kapoia synennohsh gia thn epilysh problhmatwn. Kai an yparxei qema, etsi, gia ton k. Dhma apo thn pleyra ths Neas Dhmokratias.

ANTWNAROS: Den einai stis proqeseis moy na sxoliasw tis apoceis kanenos Epitropoy. Sebomaste to ergo ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs kai twn Epitropwn. Sto qema, omws, to eidiko sto opoio anaferqhkate, exei apanthsei hdh analytika kai me apolyth eparkeia o Ypoyrgos Periballontos Xwrotajias kai Dhmosiwn Ergwn k. Giwrgos Soyflias. Sto YPEXWDE ginetai titania prospaqeia na antimetwpistoyn problhmata poy sysswreythkan epi xronia sto xwro, sto qema toy periballontos. Ayto einai gnwsto allwste. Exw kanei kai o idios polles anafores se sygkekrimena qemata sta opoia h xwra eixe megalh ysterhsh, kai ta opoia twra antimetwpizontai me synexeis draseis. O xronos poy xaqhke kalyptetai me tis draseis poy ektylissontai kai efarmozontai apo to YPEXWDE.

GKATSIOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, rwthqhke xqes o Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, an den kanw laqos, apo thn k. Spyrakh, gia tis dhlwseis toy k. Manwlh kai toy k. Kefalogiannh. Sto metajy eixame dyo nea xtyphmata. Anaferomai stis dhlwseis poy ekane xqes o k. Markopoylos kai o k. Giannopoylos. O k. Giannopoylos ejapelyse kai epiqesh kata toy k. Abramopoyloy toy Ypoyrgoy. Ekane logo gia ejapteryga kai anefere oti ``oi dhlwseis sthrijhs me tis opoies geloiopoioyntai osoi tis kanoyn''. Yparxei kapoio sxolio ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Osa eipe xqes o k. Roysopoylos, apantwntas sth sxetikh erwthsh sthn opoia anaferqhkate, aforoyn oloys. Qa hqela, omws, na prosqesw oti oloi oi Ypoyrgoi ths kybernhshs epiteloyn to ergo toys me sobarothta, ypeyqynothta kai apotelesmatikothta.

ARMENHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes o Giwrgos Papandreoy zhthse na stamathsei, na teleiwsei edw h Syntagmatikh Anaqewrhsh kai na jekinhsei apo mhdenikh bash. Poia einai h apanthsh ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: To PASOK kai o arxhgos toy, o k. Papandreoy, kanoyn gia mia akomh fora mia prospaqeia politikoy entypwsiasmoy. Einai mia prospaqeia, me thn opoia to PASOK prospaqei na antimetwpisei ta eswkommatika toy problhmata. To ti prepei na ginei se sxesh me th Syntagmatikh Anaqewrhsh einai apolytws safes. Anaferqhke se ayto, poly analytika xqes, ej oswn gnwrizw kai sth Boylh, o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Paylopoylos. Prepei na proxwrhsei h Syntagmatikh Anaqewrhsh. Prepei na ginei to epomeno bhma ths diadikasias. Ean to PASOK kai o arxhgos toy qeloyn pragmatika na symballoyn sthn antimetwpish twn pragmatikwn problhmatwn, tote prepei na proselqoyn sth Boylh kai na symprajoyn sthn Anaqewrhsh kai oxi na einai apontes. H arnhsh kai h fygomaxia, apodeiknyoyn stoys Ellhnes polites, poios den qelei pragmatika na ginoyn oi allages. Kai poios den qelei; To PASOK. Qa hqela, epishs, epeidh ginetai para poly syzhthsh, tis teleytaies hmeres, pali apo thn pleyra toy PASOK, oti exoyn ypoballei protaseis gia antimetwpish, gia ejasfalish ths diafaneias. Qa ypenqymisw oti h kybernhsh -sas to eipa kai sto telos ths perasmenhs ebdomadas- sto plaisio ths Syntagmatikhs Anaqewrhshs exei kataqesei sygkekrimenes protaseis eyreos fasmatos gia thn oysiastikh antimetwpish olwn aytwn twn qematwn. Sto qema ayto anaferqhke poly analytika, o Prwqypoyrgos sthn omilia poy ekane thn properasmenh Deytera stis 14 toy mhnos, sthn Hmerida poy organwse to ellhniko tmhma ths Organwshs ``Dieqnhs Diafaneia''. O Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke se oles ekeines tis protaseis, poy h kybernhsh exei kataqesei, wste na empedwqei akribws h diafaneia sto dhmosio tomea. Anaferomai endeiktika kai monon, oxi apokleistika sto arqro 29 toy Syntagmatos poy exei sxesh me th leitoyrgia twn politikwn kommatwn. Den exei, loipon, to PASOK, to opoio den qa prepei na jexna oti brisketai sthn antipoliteysh, para na proselqei sth Boylh kai anti na arneitai ta panta, anti na prospaqei na empodisei th diadikasia, na deijei empraktws oti qelei na symballei sthn antimetwpish aytwn twn qematwn, chfizontas sygkekrimenes diatajeis. Me logia kena den proxwrei h epilysh twn pragmatikwn problhmatwn.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas peite, giati apagoreythke apo to Ypoyrgeio Emporikhs Naytilias h proseggish ellhnikwn alieytikwn skafwn sthn perioxh twn Imiwn, mexri to Sabbato; De synista ayto, mia prosxwrhsh sth logikh twn ``gkrizwn zwnwn'';

ANTWNAROS: Symfwna me thn enhmerwsh poy exw, apo to Ypoyrgeio Emporikhs Naytilias, prokeitai gia mia diadikasia, h opoia akoloyqeitai polles fores, den einai dhladh kati asynhqes, otan dienergoyntai sxetikes askhseis toy Limenikoy se perioxes toy Aigaioy. An anatrejete kai enhmerwqeite, qa deite oti ayto ginetai se polles periptwseis kai exei sxesh me askhseis toy Limenikoy, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistoyn qemata, armodiothtas toy Limenikoy Swmatos.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite. Einai programmatismenes ayth thn periodo askhseis h pragmatopoioyntai askhseis sthn perioxh twn Imiwn apo to ellhniko Limeniko;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa, eyxaristws na sas dwsw kai thn apofash na th deite.

KAKALHS: Kai deytero, einai asxeto apo thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy, dhladh, sthn Agkyra;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti o programmatismos aytwn twn askhsewn kai ths paroysias monadwn toy Limenikoy Swmatos, poy sxesh exoyn metajy twn allwn kai me thn antimetwpish, fer` eipein, ths laqrometanasteyshs, ginetai se baqos xronoy. Ginetai se polles perioxes toy Aigaioy kai akribws gia oles tis periptwseis lambanontai tetoies apofaseis.

ARMENHS: Eipate prin oti o k. Soyflias apanthse ston k. Dhma. Omws o k. Soyflias leei oti o k. Dhmas apajiwnei toy YPEXWDE kai ths kybernhshs. Symfwneite me ayth thn apoch;

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka, nomizw, me apolyth safhneia se ola ayta ta qemata. Sas parapempw stis analytikes kai poly eparkeis dhlwseis poy ekane o k. Soyflias.

N.PAPADHMHTRIOY: H kybernhsh periballei me thn empistosynh ths ton k. Klada;

ANTWNAROS: Ekane molis pro oligoy, ej oswn gnwrizw, dhlwsh gia ayto to qema gia thn Yphresia Eidikwn Elegxwn o politikos proistamenos toy k. Klada o Ypoyrgos k. Alogoskoyfhs.

SARANTAKOS: H apanthsh poy dwsate prohgoymenws se erwthsh gia tis aixmes boyleytwn enantion ypoyrgwn, afora kai thn dhlwsh poy ekane o k. Karamarios xqes, poy zhthse, oysiastika, anadomhsh toy stenoy epiteleioy twn synergatwn toy prwqypoyrgoy;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei h dhlwsh opws thn ekana. Den exw na prosqesw kati allo.

KAKALHS: O ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn twn Skopiwn proeidopoihse oti h PGDM qa kataggeilei thn Endiamesh Symfwnia sta Hnwmena Eqnh sthn periptwsh poy h kybernhsh empodisei thn entajh toys sto NATO. Poia einai h ellhnikh apanthsh;

ANTWNAROS: H ellhnikh apanthsh einai mia kai monh: Emeis ergazomaste entos ths diadikasias, h opoia exei apofasistei, opws gnwrizete, sta Hnwmena Eqnh gia diaboyleyseis, me stoxo thn ejeyresh mias amoibaia apodekths lyshs sto qema ths onomasias.

KAKALHS: Kai symplhrwmatika se ayto, an moy epitrepete, epishs o k. Milososki eipe oti h kybernhsh epikaleitai to qema ths onomasias gia na kalycei eswterika skandala. Se ayto ti apantate;

ANTWNAROS: Qa sas parapemcw se mia dhlwsh poy ekane xqes o Ekproswpos toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn k. Koymoytsakos: Oti perimenoyme apo thn loiph politikh kai politeiakh hgesia ths geitonikhs xwras na apanthsei an yioqetei to periexomeno, to yfos kai ton tono twn dhlwsewn toy k. Milososki.

KAKALHS: Sxediazei h kybernhsh na kanei kapoio diabhma gia thn ekqesh toy amerikanikoy Kogkresoy poy xarakthrizei thn k. Mpakogiannh filh ths kybernhshs twn H.P.A kai antipalo sto k. Karamanlh;

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw thn ekqesh. Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

KAKALHS: Ma prokeitai gia anameijh sta eswterika ths xwras. Ayto den sas apasxolei;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa den gnwrizw thn ekqesh. Pws qa sxoliasw kati poy den gnwrizw;

KAKALHS: Pws einai dynaton na mhn thn gnwrizete; Apo xqes exei graftei.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw na rwthsw, syndeei h kybernhsh thn ereyna poy diejagetai apo thn Yphresia Eidikwn Elegxwn gia to logariasmo toy k. Anastasiadh sthn BNP PARIBAS me thn dikastikh ejelijh ths ypoqeshs Zaxopoyloy, opws ayth diereynatai apo ton armodio anakrith;

ANTWNAROS: Den enqymoymai an kanate eseis h kapoios allos synadelfos sas thn idia akribws erwthsh xqes ston k. Roysopoylo. Sas parapempw sthn apanthsh toy k. Roysopoyloy.

KAKALHS: H kybernhsh fobatai oti h askhsh diwjewn poy egine shmera kata pantos ypeyqynoy kai eidika gia to qema ths parabiashs nomoy peri proswpikwn aporrhtwn, aggizei ton dieyqynth toy Grafeioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh den exei tipota na fobhqei. H kybernhsh einai ekeinh h opoia apo thn arxh eipe oti prepei na dialeykanqei se baqos olh ayth h ypoqesh opws h kybernhsh epiqymei panta thn dialeykansh olwn twn ypoqesewn.

SPYRAKH: Qelw na rwthsw, an h kybernhsh, exei ypoch ths oti yparxei apospasma toy epimaxoy ylikoy to opoio opws lete den exei perielqei sta xeria sas. Giati lete, oti phrate, ayto dwsate ston anakrith. Ayth den einai h epishmh qeshs sas;

ANTWNAROS: H dhlwsh poy exoyme kanei epaneilhmmenws einai safhs.

SPYRAKH: Qelw na rwthsw an exete ypoch sas oti yparxei ena apospasma to opoio den to phrate, alla to opoio syzhteitai oti yparxei sta xeria kapoiwn allwn. Exei h kybernhsh ypoch ths kati tetoio;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ypoch moy tipota tetoio.

KAKARNIAS: Hqela na rwthsw, se sxesh me ton boyleyth ths N.D. H dhmosiopoihsh toy onomatos toy xqes htan h aformh gia na asxolhqei me to qema o k. Tragakhs h htan kati poy eixe apofasistei edw kai...

ANTWNAROS: Qa meinw sth dhlwsh poy ekana.

Sas eyxaristw.

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