Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-01-25

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Paraskeyh, 25 Ianoyarioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 117834679

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 25 Ianoyarioy 2008

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

GARGALAKOS: Prwta-prwta mia dieykrinistikh erwthsh, kyrie Ekproswpe: Exete anaqesei ston k. Triantafyllopoylo kapoio qesmiko rolo, ek meroys ths Neas Dhmokratias, ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Den antilambanomai thn erwthsh sas.

GARGALAKOS: Na sas ejhghsw: O k. Koykodhmos apologhqhke ston k. Triantafyllopoylo anti na apologhqei h na dwsei dieykriniseis se kapoio qesmiko organo ths Neas Dhmokratias, ths kybernhshs h eyrytera ths Politeias. Den to katanow ayto.

ANTWNAROS: Profanws, den exete parakoloyqhsei ola ta gegonota.

GARGALAKOS: Exw parakoloyqhsei ola ta gegonota, alla h anakoinwsh poy ebgale shmera o k. Tragakhs kai leei oti toy esteile thn epistolh 21.15 xqes, an thn eixe steilei 21.15, qa thn eixate dwsei sth dhmosiothta. Alla, prwta dhmosiopoihqhke h epistolh mesw ths ekpomphs toy k. Triantafyllopoyloy kai thn ep` ayrio, katopin eorths, emfanisthke na exei steilei kai ston k. Tragakh.

ANTWNAROS: Apo thn prwth stigmh, den yparxei kamia amfibolia...

GARGALAKOS: Kat` arxas, eprepe prwta na apeyqynqei ston k. Tragakh kai meta ston k. Triantafyllopoylo.

ANTWNAROS: Den antilambanomai to yfos sas. Eilikrina...

GARGALAKOS: Qesmika, pws prepei na ginontai ta pragmata.

ANTWNAROS: Apo thn prwth stigmh, edw se ayth thn aiqoysa, dyo fores malista, ap` oti qymamai, o k. Roysopoylos otan rwthqhke, eipe oti perimenoyme thn oloklhrwsh ths kataggelias, h opoia eixe apeyqynqei enantion enos mh katanomazomenoy tote boyleytoy, dioti -opws qymaste- den eixe anaferqei epishmws kai dhmosia to onoma toy boyleyth. Se mia thleoptikh ekpomph, thn Trith to brady kai se mia radiofwnikh ekpomph thn Tetarth to prwi, akoysthke to onoma toy boyleyth. Xwris kamia xronotribh, amesws -kai ayto to gnwrizete poly kala- o Genikos Grammateas ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas o k. Giannhs Tragakhs epikoinwnhse me to boyleyth, o opoios ton diabebaiwse, me kathgorhmatiko tropo, oti isxyoyn oi arxikes toy dhlwseis kai desmeythke na probei se analytikh dhlwsh. Ayto kai egine. Kai den mporw na antilhfqw, giati to oysiwdes epikalyptetai apo kati sto opoio eseis anaferqhkate. H Koinoboyleytikh Omada ths Neas Dhmokratias, dia toy Genikoy Grammatea ths, toy k. Tragakh, epraje ayto poy eprepe na kanei.

BLABIANOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ean isxyei h shmerinh anakoinwsh toy k. Tragakh oti toy estalh h epistolh, xqes stis 21.15, giati ayto den egine amesws gnwsto kai eprepe na perimenoyme mexri tis 24.00, na to maqoyme apo mia poly sygkekrimenh thleoptikh ekpomph;

ANTWNAROS: Nomizw oti asxoleitai kaneis perissotero me ton typo kai ligotero me thn oysia. H oysia einai ayto poy sas eipa. Oti o boyleyths, me kathgorhmatiko tropo, dyo fores pros to Geniko Grammatea ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas diabebaiwse oti den exei kamia emplokh se osa ton feroyn na empleketai. Ayto einai to oysiwdes.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh eipate oti den mpainoyme sthn oysia, na mpoyme kai sthn oysia. Katarxhn na mpoyme sthn oysia ths dhlwshs toy k. Koykodhmoy. O k. Koykodhmos eixe arnhqei thn opoiadhpote emplokh. Ektos kai an den jeroyme ellhnika kai jerei kalytera o k. Koykodhmos. Giati xqes eipe oti episkefqhke to spiti toy k. Triantafyllopoyloy, epikoinwnhse opws elege kai o k. Triantafyllopoylos, epikoinwnhse katarxhn me ton arxisyntakth ths ekpomphs toy, kanonise na mporesei na ton dei ton k. Triantafyllopoylo, ton episkefqhke kai metajy olwn twn allwn zhthmatwn, politikhs h oikonomikhs yfhs, toy metefere kai ayth thn istoria, ek meroys toy k. Klada. Ayto shmainei kamia anamijh, kamia emplokh;

ANTWNAROS: Ekeino poy sas eipa -kai to epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora- einai to oysiwdes erwthma, ean yparxei kapoioy eidoys synallagh. Kai se ayto to oysiwdes erwthma, exei apanthsei o boyleyths, apo thn prwth stigmh, me kathgorhmatiko tropo, sto Geniko Grammatea ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ths Neas Dhmokratias. Parakalw, na diabasete thn anakoinwsh poy ejedwse pro oligoy o Genikos Grammateas ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Giannhs Tragakhs kai nomizw, eimai bebaios...

PALAIOLOGOS: Sygnwmh, den ton kalyptei. Na pame...

ANTWNAROS: Qa moy epitrecete na oloklhrwsw ayto to opoio lew. Qa katalhjete se asfalh symperasmata. H ermhneia ths dhlwshs toy k. Tragakh, thn opoia eimai bebaios oti diabasate prosextika, afora esas, den afora emena.

GARGALAKOS: Ceydetai o k. Triantafyllopoylos, kyrie Ekproswpe, ceydetai poy leei, epanelabe kai xqes oti o sygkekrimenos boyleyths emfanisthke ws taxydromos toy k. Klada kai proteine synallagh; Ceydetai h oxi;

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka me apolyth safhneia.

GARGALAKOS: Pws; Den mporeite na peite, an ceydetai h oxi;

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh milate gia ermhneies, sygnwmh alla egw den tis kanw tis ermhneies. Tis kanoyn oi amesa emplekomenoi. Egw den eimai Triantafyllopoylos. O k. Triantafyllopoylos xqes -kai metaferw pista ta logia toy- eipe oti ``moy metefere o k. Koykodhmos ti exete kanei kai o Kladas moy eipe na soy metaferw na mhn kaneis kamia koybenta gia mena gia thn ypoqesh Zaxopoyloy se o,ti afora ton k. Klada kai egw qa balw thn ypoqesh toy Qemoy katw apo to trapezi kai stadiaka qa lhjei''; De metaferw dikes moy koybentes, oyte ermhneies.

ANTWNAROS: Prosqesate kapoies lejeis, oi opoies de nomizw oti eipwqhkan.

PALAIOLOGOS: Me sygxwreite, alla den prosqesa kamia lejh. Einai oi dhlwseis poy ekane o k. Triantafyllopoylos. Einai oi anafores poy ekane o k. Triantafyllopoylos. Den egine kamia ermhneia dikia moy. Edw, dhladh, eseis aporriptete oti den yparxei kamia synallagh;

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora: To oysiwdes erwthma, apo thn arxh, einai ean yparxei kapoioy eidoys synallagh. Kai se ayto to oysiwdes erwthma o boyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias exei apanthsei apo thn prwth stigmh me kathgorhmatiko tropo sto Geniko Grammatea ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi kai apo thn prwth stigmh kyrie Ekproswpe.

KAKALHS: Hqela na rwthsw: Ta stelexh ayths ths kybernhshs energoyn aytoboylws, otan prokeitai gia synallages me megalodhmosiografoys; O k. Andrianos aytoboylws synanthqhke me ton komisth dhmosiografo toy DVD, o k. Koykodhmos aytoboylws mesolabhse gia thn ypoqesh twn 5,5 ekatommyriwn. Dhladh, h kybernhsh kai to komma ths Neas Dhmokratias den exei kamia eyqynh h akribws ayth qelete na sygkalycete;

ANTWNAROS: Gia to qema toy k. Andrianoy exoyn apanthqei ola ta erwthmata me safhneia poy einai perissotero apo eparkhs. Den yparxei kanena anapanthto h keno erwthma. Gia to qema toy k. Koykodhmoy, topoqethqhka, epishs, me tropo o opoios den afhnei kamia apolytws amfibolia. Parakalw na diabasete tis dyo dhlwseis, poy ekane tis teleytaies 48 wres o Genikos Grammateas ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas o k. Tragakhs.

A. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Dhladh, h kybernhsh einai pepeismenh, exei peistei apo ayta poy leei o k. Koykodhmos; Giati sthn arxh eipe oti den exei kamia synallagh. De mesolabhse en pash periptwsei, meta afhnei ena paraqyro anoixto oti nai entajei kaname mia koybenta gi` ayto to qema kai yparxei kai o k. Triantafyllopoylos, o opoios leei anoixta oti oysiastika mesolabhse o k. Koykodhmos gia thn ypoqesh toy k. Klada me ton k. Anastasiadh. Einai h kybernhsh pepeismenh oti leei alhqeia o k. Koykodhmos;

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw sth dhlwsh toy k. Tragakh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ep` aytoy. Sth dhlwsh toy k. Tragakh den anaferei poyqena oti einai ikanopoihtikes oi ejhghseis poy dinei o k. Koykodhmos.

ANTWNAROS: Diabaste, parakalw, th deyterh paragrafo ths dhlwshs.

PALAIOLOGOS: Yparxoyn fraseis ikanopoihtikes...

ANTWNAROS: De qa ypagoreysete eseis thn epilogh twn lejewn apo ton Grammatea ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi, oxi. Afhnei ena paraqyro anoixto o k. Tragakhs. Exei th frash ``ektos an prokycoyn alla stoixeia poy na anairoyn ta osa moy eipe o boyleyths, toso proforika, oso kai grapta''. Ayto den einai epifylajh toy k. Tragakh;

ANTWNAROS: Sas parakalw, na diabasete olh thn anakoinwsh.

PERDIKARHS: Xairoyn, dhladh, ths empistosynhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy o k. Koykodhmos kai o k. Tragakhs;

ANTWNAROS: Sas exw pei, polles fores, o k. Tragakhs exei sygkekrimeno qesmiko rolo, ena shmantiko qesmiko rolo sth leitoyrgia toy Koinoboylioy kai sth leitoyrgia ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ths Neas Dhmokratias. Ena rolo, ton opoio epitelei me oles toy tis dynameis kai me poly kalo tropo. Oi boyleytes, opws gnwrizete, exoyn protaqei apo ta kommatika organa ths Neas Dhmokratias, ths opoias Proedros einai o Prwqypoyrgos kai exoyn eklegei apo ton ellhniko lao. Den einai qema empistosynhs, etsi opws to qetete. Kai to lew ayto, xwris na qelw na afhsw na planatai oydemia skia.

KAKALHS: Mhpws telika einai h kybernhsh kai h hgesia ths Neas Dhmokratias poy ejwqei to boyleyth na logodothsei sta paraqyra kai stis ekpompes zoygklas giati akribws briskei ikanopoihtikes tis ejhghseis toy kai ara to mono zhthma poy apomenei einai na lysei tis diafores ajiopistias me to megalodhmosiografo;

ANTWNAROS: De qa koyrastw na to lew, giati profanws den egine safes: Apo thn prwth stigmh, o k. Roysopoylos se ayth edw thn aiqoysa, eipe to aytonohto. Oti prepei prwta na oloklhrwqei mia kataggelia. Afoy oloklhrwqhke h kataggelia, dhladh, afoy yphrje to onoma toy kataggellomenoy proswpoy, asxolhqhke xwris xronotribh h Koinoboyleytikh Omada ths Neas Dhmokratias. Kai eginan ola ayta poy sas eipa. Ena, dyo, tria, tessera pragmata, ta opoia apodeiknyoyn akribws oti egine h apaitoymenh diereynhsh olwn twn kataggellomenwn stoixeiwn. Meta apo ayth th diereynhsh ekane shmera, deyterh analytikoterh topoqethsh, o Genikos Grammateas ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas o k. Tragakhs.

KAKALHS: Poia anagkh tote na steilei epistolh sthn ekpomph; Giati na logodothsei sthn ekpomph;

ANTWNAROS: Gia ayto, na rwthsete ton k. Koykodhmo.

A. PAPADHMHTRIOY: H kybernhsh de blepei kamia allagh sth stash toy boyleyth; Dhladh, otan arxika eixe pei kai apeiloyse kai me agwges dhmosiografoys oti an poyn to onoma toy, oti den prokeitai, egw den ekana pote kamia syzhthsh me ton Triantafyllopoylo. Enw twra sthn anakoinwsh toy, oysiastika, apodexetai oti exei milhsei gia to sygkekrimeno qema.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh blepei to oysiwdes. Kai to oysiwdes einai ayto poy sas eipa prohgoymenws. Oti o boyleyths me kathgorhmatiko tropo diabebaiwse to Geniko Grammatea ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas gi` ayta ta pragmata poy sas eipa. Gia ta alla, parakalw, na apeyqynqeite sto boyleyth.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh moy eipate na diabasw olh thn teleytaia paragrafo, sas eipa egw den koyrazomai, o k. Tragakhs leei: ``Ws ek toytoy de mporw para na apodexqw ws ajiopisto to logo enos meloys toy ellhnikoy Koinoboylioy, ektos an prokycoyn alla stoixeia poy na anairoyn ta osa moy eipe o boyleyths, toso proforika, oso kai grapta''. Dhladh, de syntrexei kanenas ma kanenas logos gia thn apopomph toy k. Koykodhmoy apo thn Koinoboyleytikh Omada ths Neas Dhmokratias;

ANTWNAROS: Einai safes ti leei o k. Tragakhs sthn anakoinwsh toy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gia ton k. Klada, tiqetai qema;

ANTWNAROS: Exei kanei dhlwsh kai o k. Kladas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Shmera, ennoeite;

ANTWNAROS: Pro oligoy.

PALAIOLOGOS: O k. Alogoskoyfhs exei kanei dhlwsh kalychs, sthrijhs gia ton k. Klada;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa kai xqes oti isxyei h dhlwsh poy ekane o k. Alogoskoyfhs. Den yparxei tipote kainoyrgio se ayto to qema.

PERDIKARHS: Exete kapoia plhroforia gia to pote qa sygklhqei to KYSEA gia tis ekloges twn newn arxhgwn sto strateyma;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kamia tetoia plhroforia gia sygklhsh toy KYSEA. Dhladh, ennow oti den exw kai plhrofories gia allages tetoies, san ki aytes poy ypainissesqe.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, me dedomeno oti exoyme sto PASOK mia krish koryfhs ek neoy apo oti fainetai kai me dedomenh thn katastash poy exei diamorfwqei, th noshrh ayth katastash sto geniko politiko klima, alla kai thn oriakh pleiochfia ths kybernhshs, mhpws plhsiazoyn eggytera oi prowres ekloges;

ANTWNAROS: Sas ypenqymizw oti poly prosfata, prin apo tesseris mhnes, oi Ellhnes polites me pleiochfia safh kai adiamfisbhthth edwsan thn entolh jana sth Nea Dhmokratia kai ston Kwsta Karamanlh na kybernhsoyn gia alla tessera xronia thn Ellada.

PALAIOLOGOS: Yparxei ena dhmosieyma. Epibebaiwnete eseis to dhmosieyma oti yphrje thlefwnikh epikoinwnia metajy toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy arxhgoy ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs;

ANTWNAROS: De gnwrizw kati tetoio. O Prwqypoyrgos, opws gnwrizete, brisketai se epishmh episkech sthn Toyrkia, h opoia einai se ejelijh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi, lew thn prohgoymenh ebdomada. To dhmosieyma grafei gia thn prohgoymenh ebdomada oti yphrje thlefwnikh epikoinwnia ek meroys toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

ANTWNAROS: De gnwrizw kati tetoio.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw na sas rwthsw to ejhs: Einai ikanopoihmenh h kybernhsh apo to gegonos oti ena melos toy ellhnikoy Koinoboylioy kai malista dikos ths boyleyths, alla leei shmera stis epistoles toy kai alla stis 16 Ianoyarioy, exw kai to sxetiko apomagnhtofwnhmeno keimeno apo synenteyjh toy sth NET; Ekei opoy elege oti gia to sygkekrimeno qema den eixe kamia apolytws epafh me toys k. k. Triantafyllopoylo kai Klada, oi opoioi fainetai oti exoyn kapoia sxesh me thn ypoqesh;

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka. Exw apanthsei. Dyo, treis fores rwthqhka shmera gia to idio pragma. Einai safeis oi apanthseis poy exw dwsei.

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