Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-12-18

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 18 Dekembrioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 111577606

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 18 Dekembrioy 2007

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

A. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Shmera, sthn toyrkikh istoselida toy GEEQA yparxei ena afierwma sthn Alwsh, opws leei, apo Oqwmanoys ths Rodoy to 1522 kai metajy allwn kathgorei thn Ellada oti ejoplizei paranoma ta nhsia kai qetei qema toyrkikhs meionothtas sta Dwdekanhsa. Ena sxolio apo thn kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw se mia dhlwsh poy ekane, sxetika me to en logw keimeno ths istoselidas toy toyrkikoy Genikoy Epiteleioy, o Ekproswpos toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn k. Koymoytsakos. Sas diabazw oti, katopin odhgiwn ths Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn, egine amesa --hdh apo xqes, dhladh-- entono diabhma apo thn Presbeia mas sthn Agkyra pros to toyrkiko Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn. H ellhnikh kybernhsh den protiqetai, bebaia, na sxoliasei, oyte kai sxoliazei kata pagia praktikh, anakoinwseis h qeseis toy Genikoy Epiteleioy twn toyrkikwn Enoplwn Dynamewn. Ayto anaferei h anakoinwsh toy k. Koymoytsakoy. Allwste, to zhthma twn sxesewn stratoy kai politikhs sthn Toyrkia --ypenqymizw-- apasxolei thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai katagrafetai me emfash se ola ta keimena sxetika me thn eyrwpaikh prooptikh ths Toyrkias.

KAKALHS: Eipate kai prohgoymenws oti to zhthma twn sxesewn stratoy kai politikhs sthn Toyrkia apasxolei thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, opws anaferetai kai sth dhlwsh toy ekproswpoy...

ANTWNAROS: Sas diabasa molis th dhlwsh toy k. Koymoytsakoy.

KAKALHS: Dhladh, ayth einai h antilhch ths kybernhshs oti einai ena qema toy kakoy stratoy kai den einai epishmh qesh ths toyrkikhs kybernhshs; Dhladh, yparxei pali to paixnidi toy stratoy poy einai kakos kai ths kybernhshs...

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na prosqesw kati sta osa eipa.

KAKALHS: Nai. Me sygxwreite kai mia deyterh erwthsh: Giati h kybernhsh den ekane diabhma otan kata thn periodeia toy k. Mpampatzan sth Qrakh --na mhn pw gia th symperifora toy thn opoia thn jerete mallon-- tote giati den ekane diabhma kai kanei twra gia thn anakoinwsh poy yparxei sthn istoselida toy toyrkikoy stratoy;

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete, erwtwmenos edw se ayth thn aiqoysa, egw o idios proswpika, ekproswpwntas thn ellhnikh kybernhsh, topoqethqhka gia to sygkekrimeno qema.

KAKALHS: Nai, alla ...

ANTWNAROS: Oi dhlwseis toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy apoteloyn epishmh topoqethsh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs.

KAKALHS: Nai, alla den eixe ginei diabhma tote, lew. Den eixe doqei kamia entolh gia diabhma. Twra, poia diafora yparxei;

ANTWNAROS: Ayto einai se sas na to krinete kai na to ajiologhsete.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h Olympiakh me xreh gyrw sta 3 dis eyrw qa kleisei, apo o,ti toylaxiston gnwrizoyme mexri shmera. To idio qa symbei kai me ton OSE poy exei diplasio elleimma, symfwna me dhlwseis toy k. Xatzhdakh.

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw na exei kanei tetoies dhlwseis o k. Xatzhdakhs.

FANIDHS: Oxi oti qa kleisei. Oti exei fqasei eji dis eyrw...

ANTWNAROS: Qa hqela na sas pw oti, efoson sygkrinete thn Olympiakh me ton Organismo Sidhrodromwn Ellados, h Olympiakh, basei twn koinotikwn kanonwn poy den isxyoyn, en prokeimenw, me ayth th morfh sthn periptwsh toy OSE, leitoyrgei se plaisio plhroys antagwnismoy. Ayta isxyoyn ayth th stigmh. Twra, oson afora to xreos --kai profanws qa anafereste se shmerina dhmosieymata-- symfwna me thn enhmerwsh poy exw apo to armodio Ypoyrgeio, yparxei pragmati ena poly shmantiko elleimma sth diaxeirish toy OSE. Omws, den antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta ta posa ta opoia anaferontai ws kainoyrgio elleimma poy proekyce ton teleytaio enamish xrono. H alhqeia einai oti to elleimma ayjanetai me sygkekrimenoys staqeroys ryqmoys ta teleytaia xronia. H kybernhsh exei kanei diafores parembaseis sto qema ths leitoyrgias toy Organismoy Sidhrodromwn Ellados. Ypo to fws twn empeiriwn poy exoyn sygkentrwqei qa ginoyn kai alles tetoies parembaseis otan kriqei ayto anagkaio. Oi allages, omws, poy qa ginoyn qa einai ejygiantikoy xarakthra kai den qa qigoyn ta symferonta twn ergazomenwn.

EYQYMIOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ginetai polys logos gia tis paratypies sto spiti toy k. Maggina. Me osa exoyn graftei gia thn oikia toy k. Soyflia, ti ginetai;

ANTWNAROS: Gia to idio qema ayto eixa rwthqei kai prin apo dyo mhnes peripoy se aythn edw thn aiqoysa. Eixa pei tote kai epanalambanw oti o k. Soyflias, symfwna me tis plhrofories poy exw, eixe parei adeia gia na ktisei dyo spitia kai xtizei ena spiti 115 t.m.. Gia ta epimeroys qemata poy sxetizontai me ayto to spiti, exei topoqethqei me eparkeia kai apolyth safhneia kai me tropo poy kalyptei plhrws thn kybernhsh o k. Soyflias. Allwste, einai gnwsto kai to hqos kai h akeraiothta toy k. Soyflia.

KAKALHS: Me eparkeia kai safhneia eixe topoqethqei kai o k. Magginas kai kalypte thn kybernhsh. Mhpws qa symbei to idio kai twra;

ANTWNAROS: H dhlwsh moy einai apolyta safhs.

ROYMELIWTHS: Meta kai thn oloklhrwsh kai toy tritoy kykloy toy dialogoy sth Boylh gia to Asfalistiko, exei katalhjei telika h kybernhsh, exei kapoia protash apo to Ypoyrgeio sxetika me to posa Tameia epiqymoyn na prokycoyn apo th synenwsh; Pente, deka, dekapente;

ANTWNAROS: Den qa anaferqw se perissotera stoixeia apo ayta poy eixe dwsei o k. Magginas. Eimai bebaios oti qa dwsei epipleon, symplhrwmatika stoixeia, h k. Petralia, h kainoyrgia Ypoyrgos, molis oloklhrwsei ton kyklo twn enhmerwsewn poy kanei. Shmera, h k. Petralia prohdreyse se syskech sto palio Ypoyrgeio Apasxolhshs me toys politikoys proistamenoys, me thn yfypoyrgo k. Kalatzakoy kai toys genikoys grammateis, kaqws kai yphresiakoys paragontes. Osa exoyme pei gia to Asfalistiko ejakoloyqoyn na isxyoyn. Den exei allajei tipote apo ta osa sas eipa xqes.

PERDIKARHS: Oi antidraseis kapoiwn boyleytwn ths Neas Dhmokratias, opws emfanisthkan se dhlwseis toys sta Mesa Enhmerwshs, sxetika me to dialogo gia to Asfalistiko, opws toy k. Manwlh, gia paradeigma, h toy k. Tsitoyridh, endexetai na pane pisw, ayth th diadikasia poy jekinaei h k. Petralia;

ANTWNAROS: Exw apanthsei gia ola ayta ta qemata, xqes. Isxyoyn osa eipa.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epanerxomenos sto qema toy OSE, mexri poy einai diateqeimenh h kybernhsh na ftasei, prokeimenoy na kleisei ayto to zhthma toy elleimmatos; Dhladh, mporei na doyme kai kapoias morfhs idiwtikopoihsh toy organismoy;

ANTWNAROS: Den eimai etoimos na sas apanthsw s` ayto to qema. Einai poly eidiko. Ej oswn gnwrizw, den exei anaferqei qema idiwtikopoihshs toy OSE. De nomizw oti me apata h mnhmh moy gi` ayto, alla den exw kamia allh plhroforhsh pera apo ta stoixeia poy sas edwsa.

KAKALHS: Ep` aytoy mia dieykrinistikh erwthsh gia ton OSE. An den kanw laqos, ta shmerina dhmosieymata kanoyn logo gia elleimma 2 dis ta teleytaia dyo xronia, epi diaxeirishs ths Neas Dhmokratias. Eseis eipate oti den isxyoyn den antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta, alla den mas eipate kai poio einai to elleimma.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti to synolika anaferomeno poso elleimmatos antapokrinetai peripoy sthn pragmatikothta. Sas eipa epishs, oti to anaferomeno poso gia ton teleytaio enamish xrono, den antapokrinetai sthn pragmatikothta. To elleimma toy OSE ayjanei kata ta teleytaia xronia, peripoy kata to idio poso gia kaqe xronia. Gia perissoteres plhrofories, parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Metaforwn.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, einai ikanopoihmenh h kybernhsh apo thn pantelh apoysia ths Politeias se oles tis ekfanseis ths kai diaxronikws, anaforikws me thn elliph toylaxiston prostasia toy Ymhttoy;

ANTWNAROS: Den jerw me poia aformh anafereste s` ayto to qema. Ekeino to opoio gnwrizw, einai oti h Politeia lambanei synexws metra gia thn prostasia toy dasikoy ploytoy ths xwras, metra ta opoia, akoma kai otan exoyme fysikes katastrofes, opws einai aytes toy kalokairioy, fainetai poly grhgora oti einai apotelesmatika.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: An moy epitrepete, na dieykrinisw, kyrie Ekproswpe, fainetai kaqara kai apo aerofwtografies kai apo reportaz oti pragmatika h kata ta alla, ypotiqetai, prostateyomenes zwnes toy Ymhttoy, telika einai gemates apo katoikies pashs fysews. Se ayto anaferomai.

ANTWNAROS: Den eimai se qesh na to sxoliasw.

KAKALHS: Diapistwnw oti h kybernhsh efarmozei me zhlo to nomo Reppa. To kanei ayto, mono gia na ekqesei to PASOK h mhpws symfwnei kai epi ths oysias me tis diatajeis toy, dhladh me thn ayjhsh twn oriwn syntajiodothshs, th meiwsh twn syntajewn poy problepei aytos o nomos, gia thn enopoihsh twn Tameiwn klp. Kai an ayto isxyei, pws na pistecei kaneis tis diakhryjeis oti h lysh poy prowqeitai einai pros ofelos twn syntajioyxwn kai twn ergazomenwn;

ANTWNAROS: Den eimai bebaios an diabazete h an diabazoyme, toylaxiston, me ton idio tropo eseis kai egw, eseis kai emeis, toys nomoys. Eimai, omws, bebaios oti einai ypoxrewsh kaqe eynomoymenhs koinwnias na efarmozei toys nomoys.

KAKALHS: Alla den ton eixate chfisei. Eixate nomizw apoxwrhsei apo th Boylh kai eixate epishs afhsei na fanei oti diafwneite.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh, h Politeia, exei ypoxrewsh na efarmozei toys nomoys poy exei chfisei h Boylh twn Ellhnwn.

KAKALHS: Akomh kai otan diafwnei, den mporei na toys allajei h kybernhsh; Ama diafwnei me kapoies diatajeis poy qigoyn ta symferonta kai ta dikaiwmata twn asfalismenwn, giati den tis allazete;

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka molis.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sas exoyme rwthsei polles fores gia to ti qa ginei se periptwsh poy qa kleisei h Olympiakh. Mas exete parapemcei se dhlwseis toy k. Xatzhdakh. H alhqeia einai oti o k. Xatzhdakhs exei pei pws kanenas ergazomenos de qa xasei th doyleia toy. Edw, omws, symbainei to ejhs: Yparxoyn parapanw apo toys misoys epoxiakoi ypallhloi. Sas eixame rwthsei kai mas eixate pei gia ton k. Xatzhdakh pali oti exei topoqethqei. Qelw na sas pw to ejhs: Apo reportaz prokyptei oti aytoi oi 4.000 - 4.500 symbasioyxoi poy ergazontai sthn Olympiakh, molis lhjei h symbash toys, oxtamhnh h ejamhnh menoyn ektos Olympiakhs gia perissoteroys apo tesseris h pente mhnes, wste na xasoyn ta dikaiwmata poy exoyn prokeimenoy na epanaproslhfqoyn h na diekdikhsoyn sto mellon monimopoihsh toys. Ara, ayto desmeyei thn kybernhsh wste na toys ajiopoihsei kai aytoys sto mellon; Antilambaneste oti den desmeyei kanenan ayto. Xaneis ta dikaiwmata soy, ara eisai enas anergos.

ANTWNAROS: Den eimai se qesh na sas apanthsw gia eidika qemata ta opoia moy paroysiazete. Ekeino to opoio gnwrizw, einai oi epishmes dhlwseis ths hgesias toy armodioy Ypoyrgeioy kai oi dhlwseis aytes ejakoloyqoyn na isxyoyn.

Sas eyxaristw.

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