Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-12-17

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 17 Dekembrioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 111402049

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 17 Dekembrioy 2007

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs pragmatopoiei apo shmera kai mexri thn Tetarth, epishmh episkech sth Rwsia. O Prwqypoyrgos anaxwrei shmera gia th Mosxa, opoy qa fqasei gyrw stis 18.00, opote kai qa ginei h epishmh teleth ypodoxhs. Ayrio, Trith, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synanthsh me toys omogeneis kyrioys Kaisef kai Gioyrtsixin. Argotera, stis 10.00 qa synanthqei me ton Patriarxh Mosxas Alejio B' kai qa akoloyqhsei h teleth kataqeshs stefanoy sto mnhmeio toy Agnwstoy Stratiwth. Ligo prin apo tis 12.00, o Prwqypoyrgos qa fqasei sto Kremlino kai qa exei synanthsh me ton Proedro ths Rwsikhs Omospondias k. Poytin. Qa epakoloyqhsoyn, stis 13.00, dieyrymenes synomilies me symmetoxh twn antiproswpeiwn. Katopin, stis 14.00, qa ginoyn dhlwseis pros ta Mesa Mazikhs Enhmerwshs. Stis 16.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei me to syntonisth ths Pempths Perifereias toy Symboylioy Apodhmoy Ellhnismoy. Argotera, stis 17.00, o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei me to Rwso Prwqypoyrgo k. Zoypkof kai stis 19.10 qa metabei ek neoy sto Kremlino, gia na exei mia kat` idian synanthsh me ton Proedro ths Rwsikhs Omospondias k. Poytin, prin apo to epishmo deipno. O Prwqypoyrgos qa epistrecei thn Tetarth, sthn Aqhna.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, me thn allagh sthn hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Apasxolhshs, h kybernhsh allazei kai rota oson afora ta asfalistika metra poy protiqetai na parei kai na allajei, me liga logia, sto asfalistiko systhma osa exei proanaggeilei;

ANTWNAROS: Einai staqerh kai ametablhth h qesh ths kybernhshs na proxwrhsei h asfalistikh metarryqmish, xwris ekptwseis, xwris diaforopoihseis. Opws sas exoyme pei, oi allages qa ginoyn oles me stoxo th dhmioyrgia enos biwsimoy asfalistikoy systhmatos, se baqos xronoy, pros ofelos olwn twn Ellhnwn politwn.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na rwthsw, katarxhn, an h kybernhsh qewrei oti to prwto skelos toy dialogoy, ayto poy diejagotan sto plaisio ths Boylhs, exei oloklhrwqei.

ANTWNAROS: Exei anaferqei se ayto to qema, opws gnwrizete, hdh thn perasmenh Paraskeyh, se erwthsh poy toy ypeblhqh, o Prwqypoyrgos, stis Bryjelles. Osa exei pei o Prwqypoyrgos, isxyoyn. Exoyme pei omws, taytoxrona, oti oi synennohseis, oi antallages apocewn, oi kataqeseis qesewn kai protasewn, ejakoloyqoyn na isxyoyn. Kai osoi qeloyn na ypoballoyn tetoies protaseis, den exoyn para na to kanoyn.

SPYRAKH: Ayto praktika shmainei --kaqws einai gnwsto oti h nea Ypoyrgos qa jekinhsei dimereis epafes me toys koinwnikoys etairoys-- oti h kybernhsh einai anoixth kai se protaseis se ayto to epipedo;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei oloklhrwsei, sto plaisio toy dialogoy poy exei diejaxqei sth Boylh, th syzhthsh twn triwn kyklwn. Alla, exoyme pei, epishs, epaneilhmmena oti protaseis, apoceis, idees, einai kalodexoymenes. Ftanei, aytoi poy milane gia protaseis, na kataqetoyn kai protaseis sygkekrimenes.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sas problhmatizei, yparxei h periptwsh allaghs skytalhs sto Ypoyrgeio, na paei kai pisw, xronika, tis allages sto Asfalistiko;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa eipa, molis pro oligoy. Einai kentrikh kybernhtikh epilogh ths kybernhshs na proxwrhsei h asfalistikh metarryqmish.

KAKALHS: H GSEE perimenei, diabasa, nees protaseis apo thn kybernhsh. Qa antidrasei qetika, qa antapokriqei se aytes tis prosdokies twn koinwnikwn etairwn h kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei kataqesei tis protaseis ths.

KAKALHS: Kai mia deyterh erwthsh: Qa yparxei twra perissoterh koinwnikh eyaisqhsia apo th meria ths kybernhshs sto proswpo ths k. Petralia;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa, molis pro oligoy, legontas oti h asfalistikh metarryqmish, h opoia stoxo exei akribws thn ejasfalish gia oloys toys Ellhnes polites, enos asfalistikoy systhmatos se baqos xronoy, ginetai gi` ayto to logo. Gia na wfelhqoyn oloi oi Ellhnes polites, oloklhrh h ellhnikh koinwnia. Ola ta metra ta opoia lambanontai ayth th stoxeysh exoyn. H asfalistikh metarryqmish den einai aytoskopos.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, alla oi ergazomenoi den aphrghsan, oyte antedrasan gia to anacykthrio toy k. Maggina, alla gia to Asfalistiko. Gi` ayto h kybernhsh den qa kanei kamia ypoxwrhsh, opws lete.

ANTWNAROS: Opws sas exw pei kai to lew gia mia akomh fora, h kybernhsh exei kataqesei tis protaseis ths. Oi protaseis aytes den exoyn sxesh me thn allagh toy proswpoy sthn koryfh toy Ypoyrgeioy Apasxolhshs. Einai kentrikh, sas eipa, politikh epilogh ths kybernhshs na proxwrhsoyme sthn asfalistikh metarryqmish.

ROYMELIWTHS: Yphrxan parapona apo boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias, akomh kai ypoyrgoys, oti den eixan enhmerwqei plhrws gia ta sxedia ths kybernhshs, se o,ti afora thn asfalistikh metarryqmish. Twra poy h nea Ypoyrgos xreiazetai kai ayth xrono gia na enhmerwqei, pws qa antimetwpisete ayto to problhma poy yparxei;

ANTWNAROS: H k. Petralia einai asfalws mia poly empeirh politikos. Exei qhteysei, opws gnwrizete, se dyo Ypoyrgeia, prosfata kai eimai bebaios oti me thn peira poy th diakrinei poly grhgora qa einai enhmerh gia oles tis ptyxes ths asfalistikhs metarryqmishs. Allwste, mhn jexnate oti h k. Petralia olo ayto to diasthma, ennow toys ligoys mhnes poy den htan melos ths kybernhshs, htan bebaiws melos kai einai melos ths Boylhs kai synexws enhmerwnotan, opws enhmerwnontai kai ola ta melh toy Koinoboylioy, gia tis basikes arxes ths metarryqmishs kai tis protaseis ths kybernhshs.

KALARITHS: H kybernhsh qa proxwrhsei stis allages sto Asfalistiko, anejarthtws ths klimakwshs twn antidrasewn kai twn kinhtopoihsewn;

ANTWNAROS: Exw topoqethqei kai den qa janagyrisw sto idio qema. Nomizw oti osa eipa einai arketa.

SPYRAKH: Exw mia aporia oson afora to xrono poy prosdiorizete to telos ayths ths syzhthshs kai ths kataqeshs toy nomosxedioy. H kybernhsh qewrei pws mexri to telos ths anoijhs qa exei chfistei to nomosxedio gia to Asfalistiko.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa exoyme pei.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Epitrecte moy na epanelqw. Eipate oti to Asfalistiko qa efarmostei xwris ekptwseis.

ANTWNAROS: Milhsa gia asfalistikh metarryqmish.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Nai, h asfalistikh metarryqmish. Wstoso, h k. Petralia, ejerxomenh prin ligo apo to Proedriko Megaro, xrhsimopoihse metajy twn allwn orwn oti qa epidiwxqei kai h megisth dynath synainesh. Mhpws mporeite na mas ejhghsete pws mporoyn ayta ta dyo na symbibastoyn;

ANTWNAROS Den briskw kamia diaforopoihsh se ayta poy eipe h k. Petralia kai se osa exei kanei h kybernhsh mexri shmera. H kybernhsh einai ekeinh h opoia akribws epidiwje th megisth dynath synainesh. Alloi einai ekeinoi oi opoioi den proshlqan sto dialogo, oxi h kybernhsh.

GKATSOS: Epitrecte moy: Yparxei mia seira apo dhmosieymata poy aforoyn ston prwhn Ypoyrgo Apasxolhshs. Jekinoyn apo thn korh toy k. Maggina, pernoyn apo toys Indoys poy diemenan sthn katoikia toy sto Korwpi, ftanoyn sto tropo me ton opoio anegerqh ayth h katoikia kai katalhgoyn se synenteyjeis poy edwsan oi Indoi poy diemenan sto spiti toy k. Maggina. Telika, poios einai o logos gia ton opoio apepemce o Prwqypoyrgos ton prwhn Ypoyrgo Apasxolhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Den symfwnw, kat` arxas, me to rhma to opoio xrhsimopoihsate. O k. Magginas eixe thn eyqijia na qesei thn paraithsh toy sth diaqesh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, o opoios kai thn ekane apodekth. Qa hqela na pw oti o k. Magginas exei epitelesei, apo thn hmera poy anelabe thn eyqynh toy Ypoyrgeioy Apasxolhshs, hdh dhladh apo thn prohgoymenh kybernhsh, poly shmantiko ergo. H syneisfora toy kata thn proetoimasia ths metarryqmishs einai oysiastikh.

KAKALHS: Mexri proxqes briskate ikanopoihtikes tis ejhghseis poy edine o Ypoyrgos. Dhladh, ayto poy den kriqhke ikanopoihtiko htan to anacykthrio; Aytos htan o logos dhladh;

ANTWNAROS: Milhsa molis gia eyqijia toy k. Maggina, o opoios ypebale thn paraithsh toy kai h opoia egine apodekth.

MELIGKWNHS: Apo th stigmh poy o k. Xatzhdakhs exei milhsei gia kleisimo ths Olympiakhs h telos pantwn gia thn antikatastash toy yparxontos etairikoy sxhmatos me kapoio allo pio mikro kai pio eyelikto, gia poio logo exoyn prokhryxqei 715 qeseis gia proslhceis ston eqniko aerometaforea;

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, o k. Xatzhdakhs oydepote xrhsimopoihse ton oro ton opoio eseis molis xrhsimopoihsate. Deyteron, o k. Xatzhdakhs exei topoqethqei analytika se ola ta qemata poy exoyn sxesh me thn Olympiakh. Se aytes tis apanthseis toy Ypoyrgoy, poy exoyn ginei dhmosia me th morfh synenteyjewn, sas parapempw.

SARANTAKOS: Thn prohgoymenh ebdomada kai eseis kai o k. Roysopoylos eixate pei oti eixe stoxopoihqei o k. Magginas. Malista yphrjan kai ypainigmoi oti oi dhmosiografoi stoxopoihsan ton k. Maggina epeidh asxolhqhke me to Asfalistiko. Meta tis ejelijeis toy Sabbatokyriakoy, epimenete se ayth thn apoch;

ANTWNAROS: Ekeino to opoio exei shmasia, xwris na akyrwnw kamia apo tis topoqethseis poy exoyme kanei ews twra, einai oti h Ellada, h xwra mas, exei apolyth anagkh, xwris xasimo xronoy, mia oysiastikh asfalistikh metarryqmish. Kai se ayth thn asfalistikh metarryqmish, na eiste bebaios kai eseis, qa proxwrhsoyme.

SARANTAKOS: Qewreite, loipon, oti htan stoxopoihmenos o k. Magginas.

ANTWNAROS: Osa eixa na pw, ta eipa.

FANIDHS: Anejarthta ean htan paraithsh h apopomph toy k. Maggina apo thn kybernhsh, nomizoyme oti eixe mia triplh eykairia. Ayth thn triplh eykairia qa thn exoyn sto mellon kai alla kybernhtika stelexh h apo edw kai pera isxyei h palaia rhsh to Prwqypoyrgoy ``semna kai tapeina'';

ANTWNAROS: H rhsh ayth toy Prwqypoyrgoy isxyei panta. Einai diaxronikh kai eimai bebaios oti oloi thn akoloyqoyn.

PERDIKARHS: Eipate molis prohgoymenws oti den prokeitai gia apopomph toy prwhn pleon Ypoyrgoy Apasxolhshs, alla gia paraithsh gia logoys eyqijias. Se ti synistatai, telika, h eyqijia gia thn opoia ypebale thn paraithsh toy kai giati egine apodekth apo ton Prwqypoyrgo, efoson kai eseis dhlwsate thn Paraskeyh, edw se ayto to xwro, oti yparxei empistosynh sto proswpo toy kai einai eparkeis oi ejhghseis;

ANTWNAROS: Ekeino to opoio, profanws, den ginetai antilhpto einai oti prepei na koita kaneis panta mprosta. Kai ekeino poy exoyme mprosta mas einai h staqerh kai ametablhth qesh ths kybernhshs na proxwrhsei h asfalistikh metarryqmish.

SARANTAKOS: Me aformh to gegonos me to spiti toy k. Maggina sto Korwpi kai thn adeia ayth poy eixe bgalei, mhpws gnwrizete ean o k. Paylopoylos exei dwsei entolh stis Nomarxies na ereynhsoyn poleodomika zhthmata poy aforoyn synolika to Korwpi, gia to opoio fantazomai qa eidate kai eseis einai ena dasos apo ayqairetes katoikies;

ANTWNAROS: Eimai bebaios oti gnwrizete poios exei thn eyqynh gia thn Poleodomia.

SARANTAKOS: Oi Nomarxies den einai;

ANTWNAROS: Akribws. Kai jerete pws eklegontai oi Nomarxes.

SARANTAKOS: O k. Paylopoylos den exei kamia armodiothta gia tis Poleodomies;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

KAKALHS: Me aformh to tajidi toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Mosxa pws antimetwpizei h kybernhsh th qesh ths Rwsikhs kybernhshs, oti einai paranomh h apostolh ths politikhs dynamhs poy sxediazei na steilei h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh sto Kossobo, giati den exei lhfqei h apofash apo to Symboylio Asfaleias. Ayth th qesh...

ANTWNAROS: Den eimai etoimos na sas apanthsw gia ayto to qema. An qelete eyxaristws na enhmerwqw kai na sas apanthsw kata th diarkeia ths hmeras.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate molis oti oi Poleodomies entassontai, ypagontai pio swsta, stis Nomarxies...

ANTWNAROS: Thn armodiothta gia tis kata topoys Poleodomies tis exoyn oi Nomarxies.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Nai, ap oso omws mporw na qymhqw, h Nomarxia Anatolikhs Attikhs einai gia xronia sto komma ths Neas Dhmokratias.

ANTWNAROS: Den antilambanomai ti qelete na me rwthsete.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Ara, qelw na pw oti thn antistoixh eyqynh den thn exei o eklegmenos, apo to komma ths Neas Dhmokratias, Nomarxhs;

ANTWNAROS: Egw jerete den kanw katalogismo eyqynwn se ayto to xwro. Kai asfalws den kanw kanena katalogismo eyqynwn opwsdhpote se epipedo Nomarxias. Eimai Ekproswpos ths kybernhshs.

Sas eyxaristw.

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