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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Paraskeyh, 23 Noembrioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 107422718

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 23 Noembrioy 2007

Xairete.

" Katateqhke, xqes sth Boylh, to nomosxedio me titlo ``Kyrwsh-Efarmogh toy Proairetikoy Prwtokolloy ths Dieqnoys Symbashs gia ta Dikaiwmata toy Paidioy, sxetika me thn emporia paidiwn, thn paidikh porneia, thn paidikh pornografia kai alles diatajeis''. Aformh gia th synach toy Proairetikoy Prwtokolloy poy ginetai sta plaisia dieqnwn ypoxrewsewn kai desmeysewn poy exei h xwra mas, apotelese h anagkh epektashs twn metrwn poy prepei na lambanoyn ta krath-melh, wste na ejasfalistei h prostasia toy paidioy enanti ths emporias paidiwn, ths paidikhs porneias kai ths paidikhs pornografias kai na ylopoihqoyn etsi oi skopoi ths Dieqnoys Symbashs gia ta Dikaiwmata toy Paidioy. Sto neo nomosxedio perilambanontai diafores diatajeis, oi opoies qwrakizoyn thn prostasia twn paidiwn, twn anhlikwn, apo osoys skeftontai na epiboyleytoyn thn aqwothta toys.

Epishmainw, epishs, oti aysthropoioyntai diafores diatajeis kai epapeiloyntai gia osoys parabiazoyn aytes tis diatajeis, parabiazoyn to sebasmo poy prepei na yparxei pros ta paidia, aysthroteres poines, wste h qwrakish ayth na einai kai pio apotelesmatikh. Ypenqymizw oti o Prwqypoyrgos, molis thn perasmenh ebdomada, stis 14 toy mhnos, eixe epikoinwnhsei, me aformh ena poly dysaresto peristatiko poy eixe ginei eis baros enos anhlikoy, me ton Ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs k. Swthrh Xatzhgakh kai toy eixe zhthsei na ejetasei thn aysthropoihsh toy plaisioy gia orismena adikhmata poy exoyn sxesh me thn kakometaxeirish twn paidiwn.

" Qa hqela na epishmanw ta osa shmantika eipe xqes o Ypoyrgos Metaforwn kai Epikoinwniwn k. Kwsths Xatzhdakhs, sxetika me thn poly aisqhth beltiwsh twn Meswn Mazikhs Metaforas, etsi wste na ginoyn pio poiotika, pio sygxrona kai fysika, pio filika sto periballon. Ola ayta ta metra, ta opoia einai polla kai den qelw na sas ta apariqmhsw ayth th stigmh, apodeiknyoyn gia mia akomh fora th synexh prospaqeia thn opoia kataballoyn h kybernhsh kai ta melh ths synolika, wste oi polites oi opoioi sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh exoyn polles metakinhseis mesa stis poleis, na wfeloyntai kai apo thn texnologikh proodo, h opoia yparxei. S` ayto anaferontai, fer` eipein --sas to lew- - ta metra thlematikhs ta opoia efarmozontai gia tis astikes sygkoinwnies kai ths Qessalonikhs kai ths Aqhnas, alla kai o tropos me ton opoio ekdidontai ta eisithria, pio apla, pio apotelesmatika, wste na mhn trexei kaneis synexeia, ekei opoy palia eprepe gia na bgalei eisithrio, otan diapistwne oti den exei eisithrio kai den mporoyse na mpei sto lewforeio. Gia na anaferoyme endeiktika orismena apla kai praktika metra. Parallhla, omws, yparxei ena shmantiko sxedio epektashs twn lewforeiolwridwn poy ayjanontai apo 49 se 55 xiliometra stis perioxes: Kalliqea, Falhro, Peristeri, Xalandri kai thn odo Hpeiroy sto kentro ths Aqhnas. Me alla logia, epekteinetai to metro, ayto poy apodeixthke poso xrhsimo kai poso wfelimo einai. Feygoyme apo to kentro ths Aqhnas, feygoyme apo tis kentrikes perioxes kai pame pros thn perifereia ths polhs, opoy kai ekei, logw ths ayjhmenhs kykloforias h opoia yparxei kai prokeimenoy na dieykolynontai osoi qeloyn na xrhsimopoioyn - -kai einai olo kai perissoteroi- - ta Mesa Metaforas, dhmioyrgoyntai oi lewforeiodromoi. Yparxei, epishs, se ejelijh mia megalh diadikasia gia thn promhqeia 520 newn, opws apokaloyntai, ``kaqarwn'' lewforeiwn, apo ta opoia ta 200 qa einai fysikoy aerioy kai ta ypoloipa ntizel antirrypantikhs texnologias. Ayta ta nea lewforeia ypologizetai oti qa teqoyn se kykloforia peri to telos toy epomenoy etoys, toy 2008. Epekteinetai, epishs, to diktyo toy HSAP ws ton Agio Stefano, ws thn Eqnikh Odo dhladh kai qa exei oloklhrwqei mexri to 2012. Gia thn epektash toy tram ston Peiraia sas milhsa prin apo liges hmeres, apo ayth edw th qesh. Epekteinetai, epishs, peiramatika sthn arxh, kai to wrario toy Hlektrikoy kai toy Metro, mexri tis 02.00, thn Paraskeyh kai to Sabbato, gia toys mhnes Febroyario kai Martio toy 2008. Einai mia pilotikh efarmogh. Yphrxe ena aithma pollwn, oi opoioi ekeines tis sygkekrimenes hmeres hqelan na xrhsimopoioyn ekeines tis wres to Metro, kai ginetai ayth h dokimastikh efarmogh, prokeimenoy oi Organismoi oi opoioi einai ypeyqynoi gi` ayta ta dyo Mesa Mazikhs Metaforas na diapistwsoyn, ean kai kata poso prepei na ginei ayth h allagh se baqos xronoy, ti allages mporoyn na ginoyn, an xreiazontai perissoteres h ligoteres wres.

Yparxei, epishs, h apofash na topoqethqoyn klimatistika stoys neoy typoy 14 syrmoys toy Metro. Gnwrizete oti to perasmeno kalokairi yphrjan polles diamartyries, logw twn ychlwn qermokrasiwn poy epikrathsan kai sthn Aqhna. Etsi exei ypografei h sxetikh symbash kai qa jekinhsei h egkatastash twn klimatistikwn to kalokairi toy 2008 kai qa oloklhrwqei toys epomenoys mhnes. Problepetai, epishs, epektash toy proastiakoy sidhrodromoy apo to Kiato sto Jylokastro. To sygkekrimeno ergo exei hdh jekinhsei kai qa oloklhrwqei sto telos toy 2010. Problepetai, epishs, epektash toy proastiakoy sidhrodromoy pros to Layrio: Exei hdh oloklhrwqei h promeleth xarajhs. Anatiqetai mesa sto 2008 h meleth toy ergoy kai dhmoprateitai entos toy 2009. Paradidetai sto synolo to ergo mexri to 2013.

" H Eyrwpaikh Epitroph enekrine to Epixeirhsiako Programma ``Ekpaideysh kai Dia Bioy Maqhsh'' ths neas Programmatikhs Periodoy 2007-2013, toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Paideias kai Qrhskeymatwn. Sto plaisio twn stoxwn sygklishs kai perifereiakhs antagwnistikothtas kai apasxolhshs stis Perifereies ths Elladas, h koinotikh enisxysh gia to sygkekrimeno Epixeirhsiako Programma qa proelqei apo to Eyrwpaiko Koinwniko Tameio. Prokeitai gia synolikh dapanh, dhmosia dapanh, gia thn ylopoihsh toy sygkekrimenoy programmatos poy anerxetai sto poso twn 2.215.000.000 eyrw, symperilambanomenwn, bebaiws, kai twn koinotikwn kai twn eqnikwn porwn. Perissoteres leptomereies, mporeite na exete apo to armodio Ypoyrgeio.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, exei ginei fanero oti to elleimma sygkekrimenwn protasewn gyrw apo thn epilysh toy Asfalistikoy exei odhghsei se nayagio ton koinwniko oso kai ton koinoboyleytiko dialogo, exei dhmioyrghsei sygxyseis kai kapoia anataraxh. Giati, loipon, h kybernhsh den kataqetei sygkekrimenes protaseis, wste na jeroyme pantws poy badizoyn ta pragmata kai na kanonisoyn (den akoygetai) kai tis antidraseis toys;

ANTWNAROS: Lypamai, alla qa sas apogohteysw. H kybernhsh kataqetei sygkekrimenes protaseis, o dialogos brisketai se ejelijh kai osoi qeloyn na metasxoyn sto dialogo --kai einai panta kalodexoymenoi na metasxoyn sto dialogo-- qa tis broyn tis protaseis kai mporoyn eykola na topoqethqoyn panw se aytes tis protaseis. Allwste, qa hqela na sas pw oti molis xqes o armodios Ypoyrgos k. Magginas kalese me epistolh toy pros ta kommata kai toys koinwnikoys etairoys osoys qeloyn na metasxoyn ston trito kyklo toy dialogoy gia thn anamorfwsh toy asfalistikoy systhmatos, to opoio oloi qeloyme na einai biwsimo kai dikaio kai se baqos xronoy. O tritos aytos kyklos, me koinh symfwnia, anaferetai sta qemata toy eksygxronismoy toy qesmoy twn Barewn kai Anqygieinwn Epaggelmatwn, sthn proairetikh paramonh --to epishmainw ayto to pragma-- sthn ergasia, sth qwrakish toy systhmatos twn anaphrikwn syntajewn kai sthn enisxysh twn xamhlwn kai mesaiwn syntajewn, kaqws kai sth mhtrothta. Stoys dyo kykloys, loipon, poy mexri twra syzhthqhkan, oi qeseis ths kybernhshs exoyn ginei kala gnwstes.

KAKALHS: Telika thn ayqentikh ermhneia gia ta tria proeklogika ``den'' toy Prwqypoyrgoy oti den qa ayjhqoyn ta oria hlikias, oti den qa ayjhqoyn oi eisfores kai den qa meiwqoyn oi syntajeis, thn edwse xqes o epitimos Proedros ths Neas Dhmokratias, legontas oti ayta ta tria ``den'' aforoysan ta wrima syntajiodotika dikaiwmata; Ayth einai h ermhneia;

ANTWNAROS: Osa exei pei o Prwqypoyrgos, isxyoyn sto akeraio.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, den mporeite na dieykrinisete ean ayto aforoyse telika ta tria ``den'', ta wrima syntajiodotika dikaiwmata h oxi;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti exoyme topoqethqei kai se ayta ta qemata, se aythn edw thn aiqoysa, kai o k. Roysopoylos kai egw, epaneilhmmenws. Den exw na prosqesw gia to qema toy Asfalistikoy tipota kainoyrgio mexri thn enarjh ths syzhthshs gia ton trito kyklo poy sas eipa oti einai thn epomenh ebdomada, thn epomenh Tetarth. Osa aforoyn stoys dyo prwtoys kykloys, exoyn ejantlhqei.

KAKALHS: Xqes, o k. Roysopoylos eipe oti den qigontai ta katwtata oria hlikias. Mono ayta den qa qixtoyn apo tis allages poy qa ginoyn twra; Ola ta ypoloipa einai ypo diapragmateysh;

ANTWNAROS: Exete mia tash --na moy epitrapei h ekfrash-- na kanete ena ``jekokkalisma'' twn topoqethsewn. O k. Roysopoylos, tis prohgoymenes hmeres, apo aythn edw th qesh poy briskomai egw shmera exei kanei synolikes topoqethseis, exei pei akribws ta idia pragmata poy sas eipa kai egw, molis pro oligoy. Kai oi qeseis tis opoies exei kataqesei h kybernhsh stoys dyo qematikoys kykloys, oi opoioi exoyn syzhthqei mexri twra, epibebaiwnoyn akribws ayto poy sas lew.

KAKALHS: Epeidh proxwra o dialogos, xreiazontai merikes dieykriniseis. Kai rwtw: Ta wrima syntajiodotika dikaiwmata, mporeite na mas peite pws ta prosdiorizete;

ANTWNAROS: Den qa kanw egw, se ayth thn aiqoysa, analysh twn asfalistikwn dikaiwmatwn.

KAKALHS: Safestata.

ANTWNAROS: To ti einai wrimo asfalistiko dikaiwma einai perissotero apo safes. Opoios exei asxolhqei ligo me ta asfalistika qemata, to gnwrizei para poly kala. Kai sas eipa oti den prokeitai na mpw se perissoteres leptomereies gia to Asfalistiko.

ROYMELIWTHS: Dyo erwthseis. Mallon mia erwthsh kai ena sxolio qa hqela. O epikoinwniologos k. Giannhs Loylhs ejakoloyqei na einai synergaths toy Megaroy Majimoy; Ayth einai h erwthsh. Kai to sxolio sas se ayta ta opoia perilambanontai sto biblio toy, yparxoyn apospasmata shmera sthn efhmerida ``Eleyqeros Typos'' poy kanoyn logo gia ametroepeis kai alazones ypoyrgoys poy parapempoyn se apwqhtikes antilhceis kai xarakthrizei thn kybernhsh ``ragismeno gyali''. Malista, emfanizetai na mhn einai kaqoloy sigoyros gia thn epikrathsh ths Neas Dhmokratias stis eperxomenes ekloges.

ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazoyme, gnwrizete, pagiws to periexomeno bibliwn poy kykloforoyn sthn agora.

KALARITHS: Ep` aytoy, epeidh to biblio einai synergath toy Prwqypoyrgoy (den akoygetai)

ANTWNAROS: Sebasth einai h apoch kaqe politikoy episthmona kai bebaiws kai toy k. Loylh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Se ayta ta metra poy qa paroyn gia ta paidia, qa apagoreytei na dinontai adeies se paiderastes katadikasmenoys; Qa perilambanetai kai ayto to metro mesa;

ANTWNAROS: Opws jerete, o k. Xatzhgakhs, katopin synennohsews me ton Prwqypoyrgo, exei proxwrhsei se ryqmiseis etsi wste atoma ta opoia einai epikindyna gia th dhmosia asfaleia kai kyriws gia thn asfaleia twn paidiwn ta opoia, opws antilambanontai oloi mas, einai pio eyalwta apo toys enhlikoys anqrwpoys, na mhn mporoyn na kanoyn kataxrhsh twn dikaiwmatwn poy dinei stoys kratoymenoys o nomos.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, gnwrizete pote qa einai etoimh h meleth-protash ths kybernhshs gia tis enopoihseis twn Tameiwn twn boyleytwn kai twn dikastikwn;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh se ola ta qemata, otan erqei h wra toys, kataqetei tis apoceis ths. Kai o dialogos gia to Asfalistiko einai enas dialogos o opoios emeis pisteyoyme oti ginetai me gonimo, epoikodomhtiko tropo. Oso pio polloi metexoyn, osoi pio polloi ekferoyn tis apoceis toys, osoi pio polloi topoqetoyntai, toso pio apodotikos einai o dialogos.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh to 99% twn Ellhnwn pairnei mia syntajh apo ena Tameio kai malista stis perissoteres periptwseis den eparkei ayth h syntajh gia na ikanopoihsei tis anagkes diabiwshs. Oi boyleytes poy pairnoyn dyo syntajeis qa lhfqei merimna wste na pairnoyn mono mia eite th boyleytikh, eite thn epaggelmatikh; Gnwrizw, gia paradeigma, boyleytes shmera poy exoyn parei hdh syntajh apo to Tameio Nomikwn kai molis teleiwsoyn kai th boyleytikh toys kariera, qa paroyn syntajh kai apo to Koinoboylio. Qa exoyn dyo syntajeis dhladh kai malista kaqoloy eykatafronhtes.

ANTWNAROS: Opws sas eipa, h syzhthsh gia asfalistiko systhma brisketai se ejelijh. Prepei na perimenoyme, loipon, thn oloklhrwsh ayths ths syzhthshs.

KAKALHS: Ta stoixeia poy edwse xqes sth dhmosiothta gia thn forodiafygh kai eisforodiafygh o Genikos Grammateas ths Yphresias Eidikwn Elegxwn symfwna me ta opoia h forodiafygh kai h eisforodiafygh anerxetai sta 70 dis eyrw kaqe xrono. Ayta ta stoixeia den apoteloyn mia panhgyrikh epibebaiwsh apotyxias ths kybernhshs na katapolemhsei thn forodiafygh kai thn eisforodiafygh; Exei kanei toses kampanies. Tosoys nomoys, toses ekstrateies, alla ta apotelesmata oxi mono, den einai sthn kateyqynsh ths meiwshs alla to fainomeno ayjanetai.

ANTWNAROS: Den syntassomai me thn apoch sas kaqoloy. Qa sas parapemcw se mia dieykrinistikh topoqethsh, thn opoia ekane pro oligoy o Eidikos Grammateas k. Kladas: Poso akribws einai h ektash ths forodiafyghs kai ths eisforodiafyghs den mporei na jerei kaneis me apolyth asfaleia. Einai se oloys, pantws, kala gnwsto, oti h shmerinh kybernhsh kataballei ta teleytaia xronia syntonismenes prospaqeies gia thn apotelesmatikh antimetwpish aytoy toy fainomenoy poy leitoyrgei se baros kai ths eqnikhs oikonomias kai olwn mas. Ayto ginetai me tis entatikopoihseis twn elegxwn, gia na anaferw enan tropo, alla kai me th beltiwsh ths mhxanografhshs toy systhmatos - -kai ayto einai epishs poly oysiastiko-- alla kai me synexeis prwtoboylies poy analambanei h kybernhsh. Sas anaferw endeiktika thn kataqesh sth Boylh toy nomosxedioy gia thn antimetwpish ths forodiafyghs se ekplhrwsh malista sxetikhs sygkekrimenhs desmeyshs poy exei analabei h kybernhsh. Ta apotelesmata olwn aytwn twn prospaqeiwn einai apta kai antanaklwntai opws diapistwnei se shmerinh synenteyjh thn opoia paraxwrei sto Aqhnaiko Praktoreio Eidhsewn o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. Giwrgos Alogoskoyfhs, ``sthn ayjhsh ta teleytaia xronia twn esodwn apo to F.P.A me ryqmo poly ychlotero apo thn ayjhsh toy AEP''. Kai symplhrwmatika legw oti ayto deixnei oti ekei poy palia yphrxe diafygh forwn, dioti orismenoi den apedidan, den katebalan to F.P.A, ayto pia den ginetai sto baqmo poy ginotan sto parelqon. Synepws oi prospaqeies apodidoyn men shmantikoys karpoys alla yparxoyn akoma megalytera periqwria gia peraiterw apodosh ths politikhs mas.

KAKALHS: Amfisbhteite ta stoixeia to oti einai 70 dis eyrw h forodiafygh;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na diabasete thn topoqethsh toy k. Klada.

KALARRITHS: To oti h kybernhsh katabalei prospaqeies gia ton periorismo ths eisforodiafyghs, ta xrwstoymena sta Tameia qa ta katabalei to kratos;

ANTWNAROS: Exoyme topoqethqei ep' aytoy epaneilhmmena. Parapempw stis dhlwseis poy exoyme kanei.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, shmera o k. Pagkalos milwntas se enan radiofwniko staqmo kathgorhse sygkekrimenh efhmerida oti parembainei sta eswterika toy PASOK kai oti emfanizei to PASOK na apoysiazei apo to politiko gignesqai systhmatika kai meqodeymena. H epiqesh ayth antexei enos sxoliasmoy dikoy sas;

ANTWNAROS: Kat arxhn den jerw th sygkekrimenh dhlwsh. Alla kai an thn hjera den qa th sxoliaza.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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