Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-07-11

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 11 Ioylioy 2007

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh yparxei sth dhmosiothta kai exei parei eyreia ektash to qema twn graptwn kai malista kapoioi exoyn diatypwsei kai to sxolio-epishmansh gia paraithsh twn ypeyqynwn h akomh kai ths Ypoyrgoy.

ANTWNAROS: Ma, ti einai ayta poy lete; Topoqethqhke xqes diejodika o Genikos Grammateas toy Ypoyrgeioy Paideias. Yparxei, epishs, h xqesinh anakoinwsh toy Grafeioy Typoy toy Ypoyrgeioy Paideias, thn opoia eyxaristws, ean qelete, na sas th diabasw. Ayth einai kai h qesh ths kybernhshs.

GKOYTZANHS: H aisqhsh, omws, poy yparxei sthn koinh gnwmh einai oti h kybernhsh den mporese na eggyhqei to adiablhto twn ejetasewn gia prwth fora, edw kai polla-polla xronia. Den sas problhmatizei ayto;

ANTWNAROS: H aisqhsh ayth einai lanqasmenh, dioti h yparjh parabatikwn symperiforwn kai para tis kaqe fora aysthres entoles poy aporreoyn apo to nomo, mporei na emfanistei opoydhpote. Shmasia exei h Politeia na antimetwpizei ta fainomena ayta me oroys diafaneias, amesothtas kai apotelesmatikothtas pros ofelos toy koinwnikoy synoloy. Sas diabazw, loipon, apo th xqesinh anakoinwsh toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Paideias: ``... Sthn prokeimenh periptwsh twn kataggeliwn gia alloiwsh baqmologias se baqmologiko kentro ths Qessalonikhs, sto maqhma twn Agglikwn, to Ypoyrgeio Paideias antimetwpise amesa, me diafaneia kai gnwmona thn prostasia toy adiablhtoy twn ejetasewn, to sygkekrimeno symban. Einai aporias ajio to gegonos oti to PASOK kai oi ekproswpoi toy epixeiroyn na ekmetalleytoyn ayth thn ypoqesh. Einai bebaio, oti se kaqe periptwsh oi mikrokommatikes skopimothtes den prokeitai oyte na toys wfelhsoyn, alla oyte kai na yponomeysoyn to kyros twn ejetasewn''.

PALAIOLOGOS: To PASOK, me bash thn anakoinwsh ayth, qa prepei na poyme oti to PASOK kataggellei eyqews oti epixeireitai apo thn kybernhsh ``koykoylwma'' toy qematos.

ANTWNAROS: Kanena apolytws ``koykoylwma'' den yparxei. Sas parapempw sth leptomerh anakoinwsh poy ekane xqes o Genikos Grammateas toy Ypoyrgeioy Paideias k. Andreas Karamanos kai sthn opoia apodeiknyetai me adiamfisbhthto tropo, poso grhgora, poso apotelesmatika, edrase kai antimetwpise ayto to symban to Ypoyrgeio Paideias.

GKOYTZANHS: Ayto to prwto symban --kai diorqwste me ean kanw laqos, dioti einai ligo mperdemena ta stoixeia poy exoyme mexri stigmhs-- apokalyfqhke epeidh to kathggeilan kapoioi kaqhghtes, oi opoioi epipleon kathggeilan oti o proistamenos toys, toys eipe pws eixe milhsei me to Ypoyrgeio Paideias klp.

ANTWNAROS: Ep` aytoy, diejagetai ereyna h opoia brisketai se ejelijh. Den prokeitai na ypeiselqw egw se kanena shmeio sth dikastikh ereyna h opoia brisketai se ejelijh. Oson afora thn antidrash ths Politeias, sas parapempw stis dhlwseis toy k. Karamanoy.

GKOYTZANHS: Ayto loipon to symban hrqe sth dhmosiothta apo thn kataggelia twn kaqhghtwn. Poy jeroyme emeis oti den exoyn yparjei kai alla paromoia symbanta gia ta opoia oi kaqhghtes den exoyn kanei kataggelies;

ANTWNAROS: Foboymai oti prospaqeite na sympleysete kai na dhmioyrghsete anasfaleia. Den yparxei kanena allo symban, kamia allh kataggelia. Opoios exei kataggelia, na thn kanei. Den yparxei allh kataggelia. Einai ena memonwmeno symban to opoio afora ena maqhma se mia sygkekrimenh ejetastikh monada.

GKOYTZANHS: Kamia sympleysh kyrie Ekproswpe. Apla, kanw eyloga erwthmata...

ANTWNAROS: Den qa asxolhqw me ypoqeseis...

GKOYTZANHS: Einai erwthmata, den einai ypoqeseis.

ANTWNAROS: Sas einai gnwsth kapoia allh kataggelia;

GKOYTZANHS: Oxi.

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei allh kataggelia.

POYLIDOY: Apo xqes, eixa qesei, endexomenws den to jerete, ena erwthma ston k. Roysopoylo gia to SEA DIAMOND.

ANTWNAROS: To gnwrizw.

POYLIDOY: Mhpws exete kapoia apanthsh;

ANTWNAROS: Bebaiws kai exw. H Politeia, mesw toy Ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias, kanei o,ti einai aparaithto, wste na proxwrhsei apotelesmatika h apantlhsh toy petrelaioy kai twn allwn ylikwn apo to nayagio toy SEA DIAMOND. Mexri stigmhs, to Ypoyrgeio Emporikhs Naytilias exei epibalei synolika prostima ycoys anw twn dyo ekatommyriwn eyrw. Apo oso exw enhmerwqei, gyrw sta 2,5 ekatommyria eyrw, ena poso poy einai to ychlotero poy exei epiblhqei pote sth xwra mas gia tetoio qema. Epipleon, epiballontai prostima ycoys apo 8.000 ews 17.000 eyrw hmerhsiws mexri na oloklhrwqei h diadikasia ths apantlhshs twn kaysimwn kai twn allwn ylikwn kai ths anelkyshs toy ploioy. Taytoxrona, prokeimenoy na diasfalistei akribws oti qa proxwrhsei ayth h diadikasia, apo to legomeno Galazio Tameio, ta dyo synarmodia Ypoyrgeia, to Emporikhs Naytilias kai to Ypoyrgeio Periballontos Xwrotajias kai Dhmosiwn Ergwn xrhmatodotoyn meleth sxetika me ayto to qema. Dhladh, thn apantlhsh twn kaysimwn, twn lipantikwn kai twn allwn ylikwn poy briskontai egklwbismena entos toy byqismenoy ploioy, kaqws kai thn anelkysh toy ploioy. Ayto ginetai pera apo th nomikh ypoxrewsh thn opoia exei h etaireia na proxwrhsei akribws sthn apantlhsh aytwn twn ylikwn kai thn anelkysh toy ploioy. Qa hqela na sas pw akomh, oti opws me enhmerwsan apo to Ypoyrgeio Emporikhs Naytilias, ginontai oles oi aparaithtes energeies, wste na katalogistoyn sthn idiokthtria etaireia kai stis asfalistikes etaireies poy profanws thn kalyptoyn asfalistika, oles oi dapanes poy exoyn prokycei ws synepeies toy nayagioy. Qa katateqoyn, bebaiws, kai oi sxetikes agwges. Prosqetw oti exoyn ginei, opws sas einai endexomenws gnwsto, polles syskeceis twn armodiwn me toys topikoys foreis sth Santorinh. H teleytaia egine molis thn perasmenh ebdomada me th symmetoxh toy Genikoy Grammatea toy Ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias k. Tzoanoy, wste na yparjei leptomerhs katagrafh olwn aytwn twn synepeiwn gia thn topikh koinwnia. Dioti stoxos einai --kai prepei na einai-- na doqei to periballon stoys katoikoys, opws akribws htan prin apo to nayagio. Den qa prepei na jexnaei kaneis oti se antiqesh me oti egine prin apo xronia meta to tragiko polynekro nayagio toy SAMINA, h shmerinh politikh hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias antedrase amesa, systhmatika kai apotelesmatika epiballontas kai prostima, opws sas eipa, kai proxwrwntas stis energeies poy sas anefera diejodika pio panw.

KAKALHS: Apo ola ayta poy mas eipate apoysiazei to pio oysiastiko. Den yparxei dhladh oysiastikh desmeysh, sygkekrimenh desmeysh kai xronodiagramma gia to pote qa ginei h apantlhsh twn kaysimwn...

ANTWNAROS: Ola ta stoixeia perilambanontai sthn ektenh topoqethsh poy ekana molis.

KAKALHS: Den exei kamia sxesh... Poio einai to xronodiagramma; Pote qa ginei;

ANTWNAROS: Prepei na ginoyn meletes kai prepei na ginei olh h katallhlh proetoimasia.

KAKALHS: Ta prostima einai gia ta matia toy kosmoy. Giati pote den eisprattontai...

ANTWNAROS: Ayth einai dikh sas ektimhsh.

KAKALHS: Erwthsh: Exoyn eispraxqei ta prostima;

ANTWNAROS: Gia perissoteres leptomereies, parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Emporikhs Naytilias.

KAKALHS: Mas fwtisate twra...

ANTWNAROS: Exete mia eristikh diaqesh, k. Kakalh, ton teleytaio kairo.

KAKALHS: Otan oi apanthseis sas einai tetoies, profanws mas prokaleite.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw na epanelqw sto prohgoymeno qema, sto qema twn ejetasewn. Apo to memonwmeno ayto, opws eipate, peristatiko yparxei problhmatismos sthn kybernhsh oti to adiablhto twn ejetasewn, telika kaqistatai trwto apo proswpikes symperifores;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. Memonwmenes, poly memonwmenes tetoies symperifores, parabatikes symperifores den mporoyn na apokleistoyn pote. Alla, oloi oi diagwnizomenoi prepei na einai sigoyroi oti to systhma einai adiablhto kai mpainoyn sto Panepisthmio aytoi poy exoyn tis kalyteres epidoseis.

GKOYTZANHS: Nomizw oti thn teleytaia fora poy eixame qema me tis ejetaseis htan to 1979. Giati prwth fora meta apo 30 xronia eixame...

ANTWNAROS: Gia perissoteres leptomereies apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Paideias.

KAKALHS: Meta to jepoylhma toy Taxydromikoy Tamieythrioy, xqes, opoy to pososto toy Dhmosioy epese katw apo to 50% kai to jepoylhma toy OTE thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, opoy to pososto epese sto 25%, ti allo menei gia na jepoylhsei h kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh, opws jerete, sto programma ths exei sygkekrimenes qeseis poy aforoyn sthn apokratikopoihsh. Ayto to opoio eseis apajiwtika xarakthrisate, opws to xarakthrisate, einai h ylopoihsh twn desmeysewn ths shmerinhs kybernhshs. H xqesinh apokratikopoihsh pragmatopoihqhke me idiaitera megalh epityxia.

KAKALHS: Htan sto programma h apokratikopoihsh toy Taxydromikoy Tamieythrioy;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti yparxei ena sygkekrimeno programma apokratikopoihsewn...

KAKALHS: Oxi. Proeklogika lew sto kybernhtiko programma.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei h apanthsh poy sas edwsa.

KAKALHS: Epishs, hqela na rwthsw, ti prokeitai na kanei h kybernhsh me thn Agrotikh Trapeza, h opoia eixe proeklogika to programma, proeblepe oti qa parameinei ston elegxo toy Dhmosioy, alla oi plhrofories lene oti qa paradoqei se strathgiko ependyth.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa exei pei o k. Alogoskoyfhs.

GKOYTZANHS: Mias kai eipate gia apajiwtikoys xarakthrismoys, proeklogika kapoies idiwtikopoihseis toy PASOK o k. Alogoskoyfhs tis xarakthrize ``jepoylhma twn ashmikwn ths oikogeneias''. Ti allaje twra kai ayth h kybernhsh den jepoyla to ashmika ths oikogeneias;

ANTWNAROS: Profanws, einai dyskolo gia orismenoys na antilhfqoyn th megalh diafora. H shmerinh kybernhsh, opws sas eipa, ylopoiei tis desmeyseis ths kai malista mesa sto xronodiagramma sto opoio h idia eixe anaggeilei. Htan allo ekeino to opoio ginotan endexomenws ekeinh thn epoxh: Ypo thn piesh ths dhmioyrgikhs logistikhs gia thn opoia apodeixqhke ek twn ysterwn, me ton pio peritrano tropo, oti efarmozan oi tote kybernhseis, anagkazontan oi kybernhseis toy PASOK kai oi ypoyrgoi toy PASOK espeysmena na anazhtoyn poroys, prokeimenoy na kalyptoyn ta terastia kena sta Tameia, ta opoia oi idioi eixan prokalesei me thn afrona oikonomikh politikh toys.

GKOYTZANHS: O oros paramenei idios, pantws.

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. Einai entelws diaforetikos.

GKOYTZANHS: Isws einai h diafora sthn timh.

ANTWNAROS: Einai entelws diaforetikos.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, alla kai h shmerinh kybernhsh gia thn apoplhrwmh toy dhmosioy xreoys kanei tis apokratikopoihseis. Gia ta lefta poy eisprattontai eipa oti kateyqynontai pros ta ekei. To idio akribws ekane kai h prohgoymenh kybernhsh. Poia einai h diafora.

ANTWNAROS: H diafora einai --sas epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora-- oti h shmerinh kybernhsh ylopoiei sygkekrimenes desmeyseis, bhma-bhma, stadiaka, tis opoies eixe analabei sta plaisia toy proeklogikoy kai katopin kybernhtikoy ths programmatos. Ayto einai para poly safes. Den aresei, profanws, se orismenoys. Alla einai h aplh alhqeia.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, yparxei mia ejhghsh pws o Ypoyrgos twn kybernhsewn toy PASOK k. Papantwnioy dhladh, poy katejoxhn epikriqhke apo th Nea Dhmokratia gia dhmioyrgikh logistikh, shmera proteinetai, estw kai ws proqesh, apo ton k. Alogoskoyfh gia Proedros toy Dieqnoys Nomismatikoy Tameioy;

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw to qema.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa moy epitrecete na epanelqoyme se ena qema, alla ti na kanoyme epanerxontai ta stelexh. Xqes h k. Mpakogiannh eipe oti oi ekloges ton Oktwbrio den einai prowres. Kai epeidh to eipe h k. Mpakogiannh, den to eipa egw, alhqeia to pisteyei ayto h kybernhsh oti oi ekloges ton Oktwbrio den einai prowres;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthse o k. Roysopoylos ep aytoy. Isxyei h apanthsh poy sas edwse o k. Roysopoylos.

Exw allh mia apanthsh se qema poy ekkremei apo xqes. Rwthqhke o k. Roysopoylos, sxetika me ena dhmosieyma poy aforoyse tis legomenes prostateyomenes perioxes. Opws me enhmerwsan apo to YPEXWDE to sygkekrimeno qema, h prostasia dhladh kai h oysiastikh enisxysh twn Prostateyomenwn Perioxwn stis opoies entassontai oi Eqnikoi Drymoi, ta Qalassia kai Ygrotopika Parka kai alla, apotelei proteraiothta toy Ypoyrgeioy me th qesmikh kai oikonomikh qwrakish twn forewn diaxeirishs. Gia paradeigma sas anaferw oti mexri ton Martio toy 2004 eixan egkriqei monon ennea kanonismoi leitoyrgias twn forewn me apotelesma na ypoleitoyrgoyn. Apo ton Martio toy 2004 mexri shmera exoyn egkriqei apo th shmerinh kybernhsh alloi 94 tetoioi kanonismoi. Ennea tote, 94 shmera. Apo ton Martio toy 2004 qesmoqethqhkan kai orioqethqhkan ennea Prostateyomenes Perioxes opws h limnh Karla, h limnoqalassa toy Mesologgioy, to Delta toy Ebroy, o ygrotopos toy Ambrakikoy kai alloi. Telos, gia thn programmatikh periodo 2007-2013 exoyn programmatisqei ependyseis, oikonomikes enisxyseis synolikoy ycoys 180 ekatommyriwn eyrw epipleon. Gia perissoteres leptomereies, apeyqynqeite parakalw sto armodio Ypoyrgeio.

Sas eyxaristw.

Shmeiwsh: H epomenh enhmerwsh qa pragmatopoihqei th Deytera, 16 Ioylioy, logw ths synedriashs toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy ayrio Pempth kai ths synedriashs ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs toy kommatos ths Neas Dhmokratias thn Paraskeyh.

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