Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-07-10

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 10 Ioylioy 2007

Xairete.

Thn Pempth, stis 11.00 to prwi, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio me qemata ejwterikhs politikhs kai qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Dikaiosynhs.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

XIWTHS: Ti qemata;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa kanei enhmerwsh h Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn gia diafora qemata.

XIWTHS: Mono enhmerwsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Enhmerwsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Se sxesh me tis xqesines kataggelies toy k. Alabanoy gia synergatida toy k. Alogoskoyfh, ean yparxei kapoia apanthsh ek meroys ths kybernhshs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei dwsei o k. Alogoskoyfhs analytikh apanthsh sth Boylh.

KAKALHS: Yioqeteite thn apoch ths k. Mpakogiannh oti oi ekloges to fqinopwro den einai prowres kai ara mporei na diejaxqoyn kai na mhn einai sto telos ths tetraetias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa jananoijw th syzhthsh shmera. O,ti eixa na pw gia tis ekloges, to eipa xqes.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Me to nomosxedio ayto gia toys apodhmoys poy eipe o Prwqypoyrgos oti qa perasei ton Oktwbrio, qa perasei kapoios eklogikos nomos gia tis meqepomenes ekloges;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den tiqetai qema allaghs eklogikoy nomoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia tis meqepomenes, oxi gia tis epomenes.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oytws h allws ean katatiqeto sxedio gia eklogiko nomo qa htan gia tis meqepomenes ekloges. Ayto problepei to Syntagma. Alla, ep` aytoy exei topoqethqei o Prwqypoyrgos prin apo ligoys mhnes.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Me synainesh allazei kai twra kai gi` aytes tis ekloges.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nai. Ayto leei to Syntagma.

MPALIOS: Mporeite na mas jekaqarisete pote qa ginoyn ta epishma egkainia ths DEQ;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To exw pei kai allh fora. Qa to epanalabw: Stis 7 Septembrioy, ean qymamai kala, arxizei h Dieqnhs Ekqesh Qessalonikhs. Paraskeyh 7, Sabbato 8 kai Kyriakh 9 Septembrioy qa brisketai ekei o Prwqypoyrgos.

KAKALHS: Eprepe na kaei o Eqnikos Drymos ths Parnhqas gia na organwsei h kybernhsh thn prostasia toy, dhladh na arxisei na ftiaxnei parathrhthria, na kanei proslhceis proswpikoy, na breqoyn jafnika xrhmata gia ola ayta poy synistoyn thn prostasia toy Eqnikoy Drymoy kai ti eggyatai oti den qa exoyn thn idia tyxh ayta ta metra, me analoga metra poy eixe ejaggeilei kai to PASOK, meta tis pyrkagies sthn Pentelh to 1995 kai to 1998. Ta idia metra eixe ejaggeilei kai to PASOK, alla parola ayta oi katapathseis synexisthkan.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Emeis den eimaste PASOK.

KAKALHS: Giati arghsate; To allo skelos ths erwthshs; Giati den dinate nwritera ayta ta kondylia, 30-35 ekatommyria eyrw breqhkan jafnika.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai qemata poy exoyn apanthqei kai alles fores. Den exw na pw tipote perissotero.

POYLIDOY: Mh me parapemcete ston k. Kefalogiannh giati ayto to qema exei syzhthqei ektenws edw sto press-room. Hqela na sas rwthsw ti neotera exoyme apo to Sea Diamond kai apo thn epixeirhsh apantlhshs petrelaioy kai allwn ylikwn poy eixe to nayagio.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw kati neotero. Qa prepei na enhmerwqw apo to Ypoyrgeio Naytilias. Alla se kaqe periptwsh, einai ena qema to opoio exei genikotero endiaferon, den diafwnw se ayto. Kalo qa htan, tetoioy eidoys eidikes erwthseis na apeyqynontai stoys armodioys ypoyrgoys. Wstoso, qa maqw apo ton k. Kefalogiannh kai qa sas exw mia apanthsh.

XIWTHS: Giati h kybernhsh deixnei ayth thn epilektikh eyaisqhsia mono gia thn katastrofh sthn Parnhqa; Opws eixate pei ki eseis yphrjan 300 peripoy pyrkagies, kahkan dash kai se alles perioxes ths xwras kai dash poy proselkyan ychlo toyrismo kaqe xrono. Giati h kybernhsh deixnei ayth th spoydh mono gia thn Parnhqa, poy kalws th deixnei gia thn Parnhqa, den to epikrinw, alla oxi kai gia to Phlio, as poyme;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den shmainei oti den ginontai antistoixes energeies kai drasthriothtes kai se alles perioxes. Dhladh, oti prepei na ginei gia th diasfalish ths anadaswshs, eite einai se epipedo dioikhtikwn metrwn eite einai se epipedo praktikwn -gia paradeigma, to na kopoyn kormoi kai na dhmioyrghqoyn anaxwmata gia na mhn exoyme problhmata plhmmyrwn klp- ginontai meta tis fwties stis perioxes ekeines, stis opoies krinei to dasarxeio oti einai aparaithto na ginei.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, olh h synenteyjh, xqes, toy Ypoyrgoy Periballontos k. Soyflia epikentrwqhke sthn Parnhqa kai mono sthn Parnhqa kai den brhke kati allo na pei gia tis ypoloipes...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas qymizw oti me apofash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs o k. Soyflias anelabe prin apo dyo ebdomades na xeiristei me ton taxytero dynato tropo -kai ton praktikotero, opws apodeiknyetai, apo ta osa exoyn anakoinwqei mexri twra- thn ypoqesh ths Parnhqas. Den shmainei oti den qa asxolhqei kapoios me oles tis alles perioxes. Asxoloyntai oi armodies yphresies kai sigoyra oi armodioi ypoyrgoi.

XIWTHS: Ma, einai Ypoyrgos Periballontos o k. Soyflias.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Asxoleitai kai o k. Soyflias me tis ypoloipes perioxes. Eseis me rwtate giati edwse synenteyjh mono gia thn Parnhqa.

XIWTHS: Akribws.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Malista. Sas apanthsa.

XIWTHS: Fantazomai oti oi katoikoi poy zoysan sto Phlio h sth Rodo...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ma, den ypotima kapoios to A h to B qema.

MPESKENHS: Ep` aytoy. Den antilegw oti ginontai kai antistoixes prospaqeies kai se alles perioxes, alla giati den lambanoyn th dhmosiothta poy elabe h synenteyjh Typoy toy Ypoyrgoy PEXWDE;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Emena rwtate;

MPESKENHS: Den eiste ekproswpos ths kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Egw qa kaqorisw ta qemata ths dhmosiothtas; Egw den mporw na kaqorisw ti qa paijoyn ta Mesa Enhmerwshs, oi thleoraseis kai ti qa gracoyn oi efhmerides klp. Dhladh, exei ginei ena megalo qema. Orqws egine megalo to qema. Kai en synexeia, otan asxoleitai h kybernhsh, egkaleite thn kybernhsh giati asxoleitai me ayto to qema. Einai pragmatika endiaferoysa proseggish.

MPESKENHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, gia na to aposafhnisoyme, den thn egkaloyme kai den anaferomai sta Mesa Enhmerwshs. Aplws lew, giati antistoixes energeies den dhmosiopoioyntai apo pleyras ths kybernhshs kai twn armodiwn arxwn, oti ginontai.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ma, pws den dhmosiopoioyntai; Exete dhmosiopoihsei eseis, ws dhmosiografos, to ti egine se antistoixes pyrkagies persi, to ti exoyn kanei ta armodia Ypoyrgeia, eite gia apozhmiwseis eite gia anadaswseis; Parakalw, apeyqynqeite sta dyo armodia Ypoyrgeia. Einai perissotera ta emplekomena Ypoyrgeia, den einai mono ta dyo, alla en pash periptwsei, apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Gewrgias kai to YPEXWDE gia na deite ti exei ginei se kaqe periptwsh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: O k. Mhtsotakhs zhthse anasxhmatismo ths kybernhsews prin pame stis ekloges. Yparxei tetoio endexomeno;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei sto qema. Isxyei, akribws, h idia apanthsh poy exw dwsei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh to teleytaio diasthma meta to synedrio ginontai diafores zymwseis kai ekfrazontai proqeseis gia to politiko symboylio, qa sas endiefere na hsastan ypochfios sto politiko symboylio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Edw eimai Ekproswpos ths kybernhshs. Den milame gia to komma.

KAKALHS: Me aformh th synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Sarkozi sto telos toy mhna, pws antimetwpizei h kybernhsh th stash toy Galloy Proedroy apenanti sto zhthma ths aytoejaireshs, oson afora stoys isoskelismenoys proypologismoys poy apofasise to ECOFIN to 2010; Dhladh, h kybernhsh qa mporoyse na akoloyqhsei mia tetoia grammh poy fainetai na xarassei o Sarkozi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Emeis exoyme dhlwsei oti qa proxwrhsoyme sthn anagkaia prosarmogh -opws exoyme symfwnhsei hdh oles oi xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs- etsi wste to 2010 na einai mhdeniko to elleimma stoys proypologismoys twn xwrwn  melwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Ayto einai kati to opoio exoyme anakoinwsei kai sto ECOFIN. To exoyme anakoinwsei fysika kai dhmosiws edw, prwton, o armodios Ypoyrgos kai sth synexeia kai egw sto press room.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh anakoinwqhke apo thn k. Mpakogiannh oti qa yparjei episkech toy Ellhna Prwqypoyrgoy sth Gallia kai synanthsh toy me ton Proedro ths Gallikhs Dhmokratias k. Sarkozi, mporeite na mas peite kati perissotero gia thn atzenta ayths ths synanthshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, einai nwris akoma.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh yparxei kai ena genikotero endiaferon , dhladh, h synanthsh ayth ekpempei kai ena mhnyma mallon qa elega shmeiologikoy xarakthra.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den jerw ti ennoeite, alla einai nwris na pw to otidhpote gia thn atzenta ths synanthshs. Eimai bebaios oti qa syzhthqoyn qemata poy exoyn sxesh me tis dyo xwres kai bebaiws eyrwpaikhs politikhs alla kai eyrytera. Den mporei na mhn syzhthqei gia paradeigma to qema toy Kossyfopedioy, na mhn syzhthqoyn zhthmata poy exoyn na kanoyn me alles perioxes toy planhth poy dokimazontai, poy entassontai allwste sto plaisio toy endiaferontos toso ths ellhnikhs ejwterikhs politikhs oso kai ths Eyrwpaikhs ejwterikhs politikhs.

N.PAPADHMHTRIOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, pisteyei h kybernhsh oti kataggelies kai aixmes gia noqeies se chfofories se kommatika synedria, an ola ayta ta fainomena ejycwnoyn ton politiko politismo ths xwras;

ROYSOPOYLOS: An ennoeite gia to na milhsei kapoios eleyqera, einai fysika dhmokratiko dikaiwma toy kaqenos na milhsei eleyqera. Alla den qa mpw peraiterw se tipote sygkekrimeno. Sta kommata shmera leitoyrgoyn mhxanismoi, oi opoioi nomizw oti ston 21O aiwna einai se enan poly megalo baqmo mhxanismoi elegjimoi -an oxi apolytws elegjimoi- th dhmosia kritikh, sth dhmosia eikona toys.

MELIGKWNHS: Mia poy ginetai poly koybenta gia to periballon, diabazoyme shmera oti kindyneyoyn na baloyn ``loyketo'' 27 foreis diaxeirishs twn prostateyomenwn perioxwn kai oti mono se 11 apo aytoys exei oloklhrwqei h qesmoqethsh kai h khryjh toys. Qa hqela ena sxolio apo thn kybernhsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den to gnwrizw to qema. Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas kanw sxolio.

MELIGKWNHS: Qa hqela ena sxolio ths kybernhshs gia thn ejelijh sxetika me to qema twn graptwn sth Qessalonikh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Edwse synenteyjh prin apo ligh wra o Genikos Grammateas toy Ypoyrgeioy Paideias k. Karamanos, exei kanei analytikes anafores kai exei dwsei apanthseis se ayto to qema.

Sas eyxaristw.

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