Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-02-06

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GENIKH GRAMMATEIA ENHMERWSHS

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 6 Febroyarioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 55743766

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 6 Febroyarioy 2007

Xairete.

Oloklhrwqhke prin apo ligo h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs opoy syzhthqhkan qemata -opws sas eixa enhmerwsei apo xqes- toy Ypoyrgeioy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn. O armodios Ypoyrgos k. Alogoskoyfhs kai o Yfypoyrgos k. Mpezas exoyn probei se dhlwseis, toso gia thn poreia toy Proypologismoy toy 2006, oso kai gia thn poreia twn esodwn, toy plhqwrismoy. Mia seira apo deiktes poy anadeiknyei th shmantikh prospaqeia poy exei ginei ta teleytaia xronia apo thn kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias ston tomea ths oikonomias. Den qa symplhrwsw kati perissotero sta osa eipan analytika o Ypoyrgos kai o Yfypoyrgos.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Yparxei kapoio zhthma neotero me ton k. Stayroy, meta kai ta xqesina peri xairetismoy toy, otan htan neos, sth xoynta;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Kanena zhthma.

KALARITHS: H kybernhsh, me thn anaqewrhsh toy AEP, eixe synypologisei to endexomeno na klhqei h xwra na plhrwsei anadromika, logw ayjhshs toy AEP, apo thn periodo 1996 kai meta, gia thn teleytaia dekaetia dhladh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Moy dinete aformh na apanthsw kai se mia xqesinh apostrofh dhqen xioymoristikoy h eirwnikoy xarakthra apo ton ekproswpo Typoy toy

PASOK: H kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias, apo thn prwth stigmh poy h Nea Dhmokratia anelabe thn ejoysia, eipe thn alhqeia gia ola ta qemata stoys Ellhnes polites. Poly perissotero de gia thn oikonomia, enan polypaqo tomea, ston opoio h prohgoymenh kybernhsh eixe synhqisei toys Ellhnes polites, toys eyrwpaioys etairoys kai en genei th dieqnh koinothta, se mia seira apo cemata. Antilambanomai oti sto politiko mas lejilogio mpainei -apo to parelqon, apo thn pisw porta- mia orologia, symfwna me thn opoia to na leei kaneis thn alhqeia einai laqos, einai ``gkafa''. E, qa mas epitrecoyn na exoyme thn antiqeth apoch!

KAKALHS: Pws deijate ta teleytaia tria xronia to endiaferon sas gia thn anabaqmish ths dhmosias ekpaideyshs, otan symfwna me ta teleytaia stoixeia ths Eurostat, poy dhmosieyontai shmera se filokybernhtikh efhmerida, h Ellada paramenei teleytaia sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh se o,ti afora tis dapanes gia thn Paideia; Kai eidika gia th mesh kai thn anwtath ekpaideysh einai sto miso toy mesoy oroy ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Etsi deijate sthn prajh, tria xronia twra, to endiaferon sas gia thn anabaqmish ths dhmosias ekpaideyshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qelw na sas qymisw oti edwsa se ayth thn aiqoysa mia seira apo ariqmoys, apo sygkekrimena posa, thn epomenh ths synedriashs Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy poy eixe asxolhqei me to qema prin apo merikoys mhnes. Posa poy exoyn doqei eis ayjhsh twn poswn poy didontan sto parelqon ston tomea ths Paideias. Mporw na sas janaferw ayrio, ean qelete, analytika stoixeia.

KAKALHS: Amfisbhteite, dhladh, ta stoixeia ths Eurostat;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den amfisbhtw kanena stoixeio. Ekeino to opoio sas lew, apantwntas sthn erwthsh sas, einai oti ayth h kybernhsh edwse poly perissotera xrhmata se poly mikrotero xroniko diasthma ston tomea ths Paideias apo o,ti oi prohgoymenes kybernhseis.

KAKALHS: Nai, alla paramenoyme sthn teleytaia qesh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayto sas to apedeija. Apodeiknyetai -den xreiazetai na to apodeijw egw- apo toys ariqmoys, me ta stoixeia poy exw dwsei, edw kai merikoys mhnes, se ayth thn aiqoysa. Stoixeia ta opoia eixa epanalabei kai meta apo synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy sthn aiqoysa poy synhqws synantiomaste meta apo aytes tis synedriaseis. Dystyxws, den exw mazi moy, ayth th stigmh, ta posa, alla poly eyxaristws ayrio na ta ferw kai na ta janadiabasw.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mas eipate oti mia kainoyrgia lejh mphke sto politiko lejilogio, ``h alhqeia''. Giati den mas lete poso kostizei anadromika, apo to 1996, ayth h alhqeia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den eipa akribws ayto. Eipa oti to PASOK prospaqhse na balei mia kainoyrgia fraseologia sthn politikh orologia. Dhladh, oti to na les thn alhqeia einai laqos h einai gkafa. Emeis pisteyoyme oti to na les thn alhqeia stoys Ellhnes polites, stoys dieqneis organismoys, einai ayto poy mia sobarh xwra ofeilei na kanei gia na mporei na exei chla to kyros ths. H alhqeia den kostizei pote, se kamia periptwsh. Exei poly megalh shmasia mia kybernhsh, oi polites ths, mia xwra, na gnwrizoyn ta pragmatika dedomena. Qymaste poly kala oti ta pragmatika dedomena eixan apokrybei epi seira etwn. Qymaste poly kala ti egine me to perifhmo elleimma. Poso to ypologizate kai eseis kai oloi mas prin tis ekloges toy 2004 kai hrqe apo tis epishmes metrhseis eyrwpaikwn organismwn, ths Eurostat, na apodeixqei oti htan pentaplasio, ejaplasio kai parapanw.

GKOYTZANHS: Ayto einai h aitiologhsh ths politikhs sas. Egw den exw logo na thn amfisbhthsw. Alla, giati den lete kai to kostos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi Ellhnes polites gnwrizoyn oti otan h prohgoymenh kybernhsh elege oti exei elleimma 1,5%, kai emfanisthke to elleimma panw apo 7,5%, ayto exei ena kostos to opoio epibarynei thn tseph toys. To kostos, opws katalabainete poly kala, kai eseis kai oloi mas, einai kostos poy plhrwnoyn oi Ellhnes polites, oxi epeidh kapoios apokalyce thn alhqeia. Qa to plhrwnan oytws h allws oi Ellhnes polites, giati sas eipa kai prohgoymenws - to eixa pei kai alles fores - oti h Eurostat eixe hdh arxisei na xtypaei kampanaki pros thn kybernhsh toy PASOK, oti den dinei ta alhqh stoixeia gia thn oikonomia. Anti loipon, na epitimatai  oxi apo sas proswpika  h kybernhsh h opoia dinei ta alhqh stoixeia, ayth h kybernhsh h opoia lynei ta problhmata, qa prepei na epitimatai ekeinos o opoios ta ekrybe kai mesa sto cema, eixe dhmioyrghsei mia entelws diaforetikh eikona gia thn pragmatikothta ths oikonomias.

MANH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sxoliazete th lista toy CNN me tis ekaton mia ``gkafes'' h kapws alliws tis xarakthrizei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Opws gnwrizete den sxoliazw oyte ta dhmosieymata pollwn megalwn, egkyrwn ellhnikwn MME.

RABANOS: Na meinoyme sthn oikonomia. Epeidh anaferqhkate sthn arxh sth synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs kai oysiastika eipate gia beltiwsh twn oikonomikwn deiktwn. Ayto leei kai to oikonomiko epiteleio ths kybernhshs kai eseis o idios arketes fores. Paroti briskomaste se proeklogikh periodo, an kai den to apodexeste epishmws, skopeyei h kybernhsh na anoijei qema proeklogikwn paroxwn; Qa ypokycei se proeklogikes pieseis gia paroxes se kapoies koinwnikes omades;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O kaqenas mporei na baftizei oti qelei. H kybernhsh exei ena programma to opoio gnwrizete poly kala oti efarmozei. Sto plaisio aytoy toy programmatos, gnwrizete, epishs poly kala, oti yparxei mia seira apo qemata ta opoia mellei akoma na lyqoyn ws to telos ths tetraetias. H kybernhsh, loipon, einai apofasismenh na proxwrhsei sthn efarmogh toy programmatos ths. An to PASOK enoxleitai epeidh efarmozoyme to programma mas - to opoio apodidei karpoys kai sthn ellhnikh oikonomia kai stoys Ellhnes polites xwrista - kai siga  siga ayto fainetai stoys Ellhnes polites, tote lypoymeqa, alla emeis qa synexisoyme.

RABANOS: Mia dieykrinish. Epeidh anaferqhkate oti exete kapoia qemata akomh na kleisete ws pros thn poreia pros tis eqnikes ekloges. Poia qa htan ta tria pio shmantika stoixeia sto dromo pros tis ekloges, ws pros thn ylopoihsh kapoiwn proeklogikwn desmeysewn poy qewreite oti einai anagkaies.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exontas gracei egw o idios polles fores epi 20 xronia antistoixa reportaz gia ta tria, ta pente h ta efta pio shmantika shmeia, qa moy epitrecete apo th qesh poy eimai na mhn mpw ston peirasmo na janakanw to dhmosiografo.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pote qa kataqesei h kybernhsh to nomo  plaisio gia thn Paideia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eixa kanei kapoies dhlwseis prin apo 20 hmeres. Molis xqes rwthqhka pali gia to qema kai eipa oti den eimai se qesh na sas anakoinwsw akoma to akribes xroniko diasthma. Alla, den qa arghsei.

GKOYTZANHS: Yparxei mia paratash ths ekkremothtas kai yparxoyn polla panepisthmia kai panepisthmiakes sxoles poy einai kleistes, ypo katalhch. Yparxei genikws mia anataraxh sto xwro ths Paideias. Den qa prepei na teleiwsei kapoia stigmh ayth;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Xairomai poy akoyw ayth thn parathrhsh, dioti thn antilambanomai ws mia prokatalhch gia osoys antidroyn xwris na exoyn dei to teliko sxedio. Prokatalhch, dhladh, aytwn oi opoioi den qeloyn na ginei kamia allagh. H alhqeia einai - kai thn alhqeia ayth thn exoyn dei oloi oi Ellhnes polites kai pisteyw oti einai enarghs pleon - oti h Nea Dhmokratia einai h politikh dynamh poy epimenei stis metarryqmiseis poy qelei o Ellhnas poliths, oi Ellhnes polites sthn pleiochfia toys.

MAYRIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, thn emmonh sas, thn epimonh sas na ginoyn oi ekloges sto telos ths 4etias, na mhn ginoyn amesa dhladh, enisxyei to gegonos oti h pleionothta twn Ellhnwn politwn tassetai enantia sthn prowrh prosfygh stis kalpes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Me sygxwreite. Nomizw oti den katalaba to erwthma sas. Eipate ``enisxyoyn thn ... ''.

MAYRIDHS: H politikh sas apofash na mhn pate amesa se ekloges enisxyetai apo to gegonos oti h pleionothta twn Ellhnwn politwn tassetai enantion ths prowrhs prosfyghs stis kalpes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa elega to antiqeto. Oti mallon oi Ellhnes polites antilambanontai ayto poy antilambanetai kai h kybernhsh kai ayto to briskw qetiko. H kybernhsh exei apofasisei ta osa exei apofasisei katopin twn eklogwn toy 2004: Me bash to programma ths, na proxwrhsei se mia seira apo metarryqmiseis ston topo. Den exei teleiwsei ayth h periodos. Oi ekloges  exw pei para polles fores  qa ginoyn sto telos ths 4etias. Den nomizw oti yparxei kapoios logos na to epanalambanw. Antilambanomai oti to PASOK qewroyse pws me thn proxqesinh toy kinhsh sth Boylh, qa anataraze to politiko skhniko. Twra poy katalagiazei o axos, oi Ellhnes polites katalaban poly kala oti den htan para mia epikoinwniakoy xarakthra kinhsh poy jefoyskwse.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eseis mas lete kai mas diabebaiwnete oti oi ekloges qa ginoyn sto telos ths 4etias h qa ginoyn sthn wra toys. Giati den sas pisteyei kaneis; Oyte h antipoliteysh sas pisteyei, oyte oi boyleytes toy dikoy sas kommatos, oyte oi perissoteroi ypoyrgoi. Giati kaneis den to pisteyei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Jerete, yparxei mia seira periptwsewn sto parelqon, opoy oi ekloges den ginontoysan sthn wra toys. Isws gi' ayto. De nomizw oti exoyn kati proswpiko mazi moy.

RABANOS: Mia erwthsh paremferhs me tis ekloges. O k. Meimarakhs einai enas apo toys ypoyrgoys o opoios xqes, dhmosiws ejefrase anhsyxia gia paralysh ths dhmosias dioikhshs logw ths paratetamenhs proeklogikhs periodoy. Sas anhsyxei ena tetoio endexomeno;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den me anhsyxei. Ekeino to opoio qa qelame idanika einai h dhmosia dioikhsh na leitoyrgei se synqhkes enos monternoy kratoys poy kai na mhn ejartatai h leitoyrgia ths, h kaqhmerinothta ths, apo to pote ginontai oi ekloges. Ta perissotera dytikoeyrwpaika krath to exoyn petyxei. Pisteyw oti eimaste se kalo dromo wste na to petyxoyme kai emeis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, diabazoyme twra oti dyo megales asfalistikes etaireies kleinoyn kai 300.000 Ellhnes oi opoioi eixan asfalistei ekei `` menoyn ston aera''. Etoimazontai na kleisoyn kai alles. Qa yparjoyn kyrwseis kai prin aytes oi etaireies ftasoyn se ayto to shmeio, den yparxei kapoios elegxos apo to kratos, apo thn kybernhsh gia na mh fqasoyme ekei; Giati dhmioyrgeitai megalo problhma pleon.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Antilambanomai th sobarothta toy erwthmatos sas. Qa moy epitrecete na sas pw oti to armodio ypoyrgeio qa htan katallhlotero na apanthsei. Mporw na apeyqynqw egw sto armodio ypoyrgeio ean den qelete na apeyqynqeite eseis kai na sas dwsw mia apanthsh ayrio.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto hqela nai.

SMYRNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, gnwstos egklhmatias o opoios brisketai ejw, katafere kai ebgale astynomikh taytothta apo to A.T. Petroypolhs. Qa hqela ena sxolio gia to pws katafere kai to ekane, enw oi Ellhnes polites talaipwroyntai, kaqontai kai sthn oyra akomh, gia poly kairo kai to deytero einai oti nomizw pws o Proedros toy PASOK eixe kataggeilei oti ayto to A.T. Petroypolhs leitoyrgei ligo parajena, logw mh epandrwshs toy apo astynomikoys. Exei poly ligoys sthn bardia, dhladh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qewrw sobaro to qema, ean isxyei opws to metaferete. Wstoso, den eimai se qesh na sas apanthsw. Qa prepei na apeyqynqw sto armodio ypoyrgeio h na apeyqynqeite eseis gia na parete mia apanthsh.

KAKALHS: Pws sxoliazete th xqesinh dhlwsh toy ekproswpoy toy Steht Nthpartment, oti gia na proxwrhsei h entajh ths PGDM sto NATO, qa prepei na exei lysei th diafwnia ths gia to onoma me thn Ellada, th stigmh poy h idia h kybernhsh twn HPA exei anagnwrisei to geitoniko kratos me to onoma ``MAKEDONIA'' kai exei prwtostathsei gia na entaxqei sto Natoiko synetairismo gia thn eirhnh. Mhpws prokeitai gia mia xeironomia kalhs qelhshs gia tis yphresies, gia th stash ths kybernhshs sto qema toy Kosoboy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Diafwnw me thn analysh sas. H kybernhsh exei topoqethqei gia to ti pisteyei. O Prwqypoyrgos to exei pei kai dhmosiws gia to ti pisteyei oti prepei na kanei h PGDM prokeimenoy na exei th symfwnh gnwmh ths Elladas sthn poreia ths pros thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai to NATO.

PARTSALIDHS: Anaferomai se mia prohgoymenh erwthsh poy egine gia tis dyo asfalistikes etaireies. Opws qa jerete, kyrie Ypoyrge, prin apo tis ekloges akribws eixe ginei enas nomos me ton opoio systhqhke mia Anejarthth Arxh epopteias twn asfalistikwn organismwn, epixeirhsewn. Ektote, parolo poy exei morfopoihqei, proxwraei na leitoyrghsei, alla den leitoyrgei me apotelesma na anameignyetai o k. Papaqanasioy, o Yfypoyrgos h to Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs. Dhladh, o rolos gia ton opoio systhqhke ayth h Arxh, den leitoyrgei. Mhpws yparxei mia kaqysterhsh, kati to opoio den paei kala enw qa phgaine kalytera apo pleyras epopteias, h armodia Arxh poy eixe qesmoqethqei me nomo qa leitoyrgoyse;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Par` oti den moy aresei na mhn sas dinw apanthseis, oso kai an den to pisteyete ayto einai ena apo ta qemata ta opoia qa prepei na gnwrizw se megalytero baqos ap` oti gnwrizw gia na sas pw to otidhpote. Qa enhmerwqw apo to armodio ypoyrgeio kai qa sas apanthsw.

KAKALHS: Yparxei kapoia ejhghsh apo thn kybernhsh gia thn aproklhth epiqesh poy dexqhkan nwritera melh toy KKE poy diadhlwnan ejw apo to Dhmarxeio ths Aqhnas; Ti htan ayto poy enoxlhse thn kybernhsh; Mhpws to synqhma twn diadhlwtwn ``foniades twn lawn Amerikanoi'';

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oydepote edexqh diadhlwths aproklhth epiqesh h genikotera epiqesh apo thn astynomia. H astynomia exei ena sygkekrimeno rolo: Na prostateyei thn asfaleia toy Ellhna polith kai na prostateyei th dhmosia kai thn idiwtikh perioysia.

KAKALHS: Ma, htan kaq` ola eirhnikh kai mono synqhmata fwnazan. Den ekanan kati allo poy na dikaiologei ayth thn epiqesh twn MAT.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apo th stigmh poy den exw dei tis eikones, den prokeitai na kanw kanena sxolio, sebomenos thn alhqeia.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, apodwsate prohgoymenws thn anataraxh sta panepisthmia sthn prokatalhch ekeinwn oi opoioi antidroyn xwris na exoyn dei akomh to nomo-plaisio. Pros xarin ths syzhthshs, egw qa dexqw oti den exei eyqynh h kybernhsh. Wstoso, ta panepisthmia einai kleista. Oi panepisthmiakoi arxizoyn apergies, kindyneyei na xaqei pali ena ejamhno me kostos gia to synolo twn foithtwn. Mia kybernhsh akomh kai an den exei eyqynh, den qa prepei na parei kapoia metra gia na jeperastei ayto to adiejodo, ayth h katastash, na mhn ypostoyn tis synepeies to synolo twn foithtwn; Mhpws h epispeysh toy nomoy-plaisioy qa htan mia lysh pros ayth thn kateyqynsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa kanw mia genikh parathrhsh, giati sto erwthma sas, oysiastika exw apanthsei: Apo th mia, den mporoyme na kathgoroyme thn kybernhsh oti den dinei ola ekeina ta stoixeia gia to aytodioikhto twn panepisthmiwn kai apo thn allh na zhtame apo thn kybernhsh na epembei otan to panepisthmio den leitoyrgei. Antilambaneste, oti emperiexei antifash ayth h protash. Kata ta loipa, exw apanthsei gia to nomosxedio, gia to xrono poy qa katateqei sth Boylh. Sas exw pei sto peripoy, den sas exw pei akribws. Otan eimai se qesh ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos na sas pw thn hmeromhnia, qa sas thn anakoinwsw kai egw kai h Ypoyrgos Paideias.

MANH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, symfwna me to reportaz, to PASOK protiqetai na zhthsei th dikastikh diereynhsh ypoqesewn poy exei diaxeiristei to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias, h ejagora toy ``GERMANOY'', h ypoqesh ths ``P ... K XRHMATISTHRIAKHS'', den qymamai ayth th stigmh kapoies alles ypoqeseis. To sxolio sas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: As to kanei.

Sas eyxaristw.

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