Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-11-08

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GENIKH GRAMMATEIA ENHMERWSHS

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 8 Noembrioy 2006

Ariqmos Deltioy: 39808247

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 8 Noembrioy 2006

Xairete.

" O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs anaxwrei shmera nwris to apogeyma stis 16.30 gia thn Mpratislaba, prokeimenoy na symmetasxei sto 10o dialogo metajy ths Orqodojhs Ekklhsias kai ths omadas toy Eyrwpaikoy Laikoy Kommatos kai twn Eyrwpaiwn Dhmokratwn.

O Prwqypoyrgos, amesws meta thn afijh toy sthn Mpratislaba, qa synanthqei me to Slobako Prwqypoyrgo k. Rompert Fiko.

Ayrio Pempth, 9 Noembrioy, o Prwqypoyrgos qa milhsei stis 10.00 to prwi sthn enarjh twn ergasiwn toy dialogoy kai katopin, stis 10.30, qa metasxei se trimerh synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Kroatias k. Sananter kai ton prwhn Prwqypoyrgo ths Slobakias k. Tzoyrinta.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh scripta manent, diabazw edw ti elege tote o k. Roysopoylos kai o k. Paylopoylos gia thn paroxh yphkoothtas se omogeneis. O k. Roysopoylos elege ``einai adianohto, eidika paramones eklogwn, opoiadhpote skech gia metabolh toy eklogikoy swmatos''. Kai o k. Paylopoylos ``h kybernhsh antimetwpizei zwtika eqnika qemata gia na ejyphrethsei mikropolitikes skopimothtes''. Niwqete na kanete to idio;

ANTWNAROS: Eilikrina den antilambanomai ti ypainisseste.

SIDERHS: Anaferomai stis ellhnopoihseis twn Boreiohpeirwtwn.

ANTWNAROS: Anaferqhke hdh o k. Roysopoylos xqes sto qema, opws anaferqhkan kai o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Paylopoylos kai h Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Mpakogiannh meta th sxetikh synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, opoy syzhthqhke kai apofasisthke na prowqhqei to sygkekrimeno qema. Qa hqela epishs na sas dieykrinisw oti oydepote h shmerinh kybernhsh eixe arnhqei oti einai ena wrimo qema. Eprepe omws na exei prohghqei poly kalh proetoimasia, wste to aithma twn Boreiohpeirwtwn omogenwn poy plhroyn tis proypoqeseis kai epiqymoyn na ginoyn kai Ellhnes yphkooi, na antimetwpistei apo thn Politeia me th deoysa sobarothta kai ola ta exeggya poy apaitoyntai, wste kai stis sxeseis twn atomwn aytwn poy epiqymoyn na politografhqoyn me th xwra apo thn opoia proerxontai na mhn epelqei kamia blabh.

SIDERHS: Wraia ola ayta, egw sas rwthsa gia to xrono. Kai o Paylopoylos kai o Roysopoylos, estiazoyn to xrono twn eklogwn.

ANTWNAROS: Kanete syndesh qematwn poy den yparxei.

SIDERHS: Giati yparxei metabolh toy eklogikoy swmatos. Einai paramones eklogwn kai sthn wra toys na ginoyn, einai enamisi xronos mono.

ANTWNAROS: Kai qewreite mikro ayto to xroniko diasthma;

SIDERHS: Bebaiws, mikro. H ellhnikh grafeiokratia qa paei eji mhnes prin apo tis ekloges.

ANTWNAROS: Sas parakalw poly. Den yparxei  opws sas eipe kai o k. Roysopoylos xqes - kamia syndesh toy enos qematos me to allo.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas peite, posoi einai oi omogeneis apo thn Albania poy exoyn to deltio taytothtas omogenoys kai poy qa apokthsoyn thn yphkoothta; Giati einai antifatikes plhrofories poy erxontai, alles dinei to Ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn...

ANTWNAROS: Opws me plhroforhse o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Paylopoylos, einai peripoy 30.000 oi Boreiohpeirwtes omogeneis, oi opoioi exoyn to sxetiko deltio kai exoyn ekdhlwsei to endiaferon toys na ginoyn kai Ellhnes yphkooi, na apokthsoyn dhladh deyterh iqageneia, thn ellhnikh iqageneia.

KAKALHS: Alles phges apo alla ypoyrgeia miloyn gia 200.000 poy mporoyn na politografhqoyn...

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa, anaferomenos ston armodio ypoyrgo, poia einai ta stoixeia poy exw sth diaqesh moy.

PALAIOLOGOS: To synolo twn Boreiohpeirwtwn poy diamenei sth xwra mas, poso einai; Gnwrizete;

ANTWNAROS: Den eimai se qesh na sas pw ayth th stigmh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den sas enhmerwse o k. Paylopoylos gi` ayto, h den ton rwthsate;

ANTWNAROS: Qa hqela na sas epishmanw to ejhs: H diadikasia ths politografhshs den einai mia aytomatopoihmenh diadikasia. Yparxoyn orismenoi oroi kai kanones oi opoioi prepei na ekplhrwqoyn, prokeimenoy kapoios kai me th sygkekrimenh diadikasia ths politografhshs, dhladh ws Ellhnas omogenhs, na apokthsei thn ellhnikh iqageneia.

SPYRAKH: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw k. Ekproswpe, ean exete ginei sthn kybernhsh gnwstes, apodektes dysareskeias, enoxlhshs ypoyrgwn gia ton tropo me ton opoio o k. Polydwras exei xeiristei th dhmosiopoihsh toy aithmatos twn astynomikwn.

ANTWNAROS: Exei apanthqei ayto to qema hdh apo xqes.

KAKALHS: Qa legate stoys syntajioyxoys poy diadhlwnoyn shmera, stoys dromoys ths Aqhnas, na pane stis trapezes na paroyn ena daneio gia na kalycoyn tis anagkes toys qermanshs, afoy h kybernhsh den to edwse oyte skeftetai na to dwsei;

ANTWNAROS: Exoyme milhsei para polles fores gia to qema, to opoio qetete. To ti daneio pairnei o kaqenas apo thn trapeza afora ton idio kai ton oikogeneiako toy proypologismo. As mh syndeoyme to ena qema me to allo.

KAKALHS: Ayth h anagkh exei dhmioyrghqei ejaitias ths arnhshs ths kybernhshs na dwsei to epidoma. Oi trapezes dinoyn daneio 500 eyrw.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei epideijei sthn prajh stis omades ekeines twn Ellhnwn politwn, oi opoies exoyn ayjhmenes anagkes, megalh eyaisqhsia kai exei antapokriqei se polla apo ta aithmata toys.

KAKALHS: Den dwsate to epidoma qermanshs kai toys stelnete stoys tokoglyfoys ths trapezas.

ANTWNAROS: Den mporw na sas akoloyqhsw stoys xarakthrismoys toys opoioys kanete.

POYLIDOY: To misqodikeio apofasise oti o misqos toy Proedroy toy Areioy Pagoy, xontrika aggizei tis 12.000 eyrw to mhna, symfwna me to epipedo twn amoibwn twn Anejarthtwn Arxwn. Ayto dhmioyrgei anakatatajeis kai sto misqologio twn dikastwn kai twn boyleytwn kat' epektash k.l.p. To prwto erwthma einai an exete na kanete kapoio sxolio ep' aytoy.

ANTWNAROS: Oxi, den gnwrizw thn ypoqesh. Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs, efoson einai qema twn dikastwn. Prokeitai allwste gia apofash dikasthrioy.

POYLIDOY: Gia to epidoma twn daskalwn apeyqynomastan se esas. Gia toys misqoys poy dhmioyrgoyn qa apeyqynomaste alloy;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa: Einai apofash dikasthrioy thn opoia, opws antilambaneste, egw den prokeitai na sxoliasw.

POYLIDOY: Kai den dhmioyrgei qema to misqologio twn dikastwn kai twn boyleytwn ston proypologismo toy kratoys;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

POYLIDOY: Wraia. To deytero erwthma poy qelw na sas kanw einai, to Elegktiko Synedrio apofasise oti oi symbasioyxoi den mporoyn na plhrwqoyn kan ta dedoyleymena toys. Kai osoi symbasioyxoi eixan dikaiwqei me agwges apo ta dikasthria kai eixan qewrhqei ws aoristoy xronoy, akyrwnontai kai aytes oi apofaseis. An exete ep' aytoy na kanete kapoio sxolio.

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio poy exei kai thn politikh eyqynh toy Elegktikoy Synedrioy.

SIDERHS: Edw isxyei h laikh rhsh ``exoyn kai to maxairi kai to peponi''. Ws pote qa epitrepete ayth thn katastash kai den qa thn allajete, oi dikastes na apofasizoyn monoi toys gia toys misqoys toys erhmhn kai twn oswn lete eseis gia thn katastash ths oikonomias, erhmhn ths dhmosionomikhs politikhs ths eklegmenhs kybernhshs kai erhmhn twn allwn anagkwn toy laoy; Htan politiko ayto poy egine. Ejiswnoyn toys misqoys toys me toys misqoys poy pairnoyn oi Proedroi twn Anejarthtwn Arxwn. Einai mia proklhsh.

ANTWNAROS: H erwthsh sas poia einai parakalw;

SIDERHS: An qa allajei ayto to nomiko kaqestws wste na pacoyn na kaqorizoyn oi idioi tis amoibes toys.

ANTWNAROS: Qa parapemcw ekei poy prepei to erwthma sas.

ROYMELIWTHS: To DVD to eidate, poy problhqhke se thleoptiko staqmo kai poy eftiajan oi astynomikoi kai exete kapoio sxolio ep' aytoy;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi, den to exw dei. Kai synepws den exw kanena sxolio gia kati poy den gnwrizw.

KAKALHS: Meta thn arsh ths epithrhshs kai ta kainoyrgia dedomena sthn oikonomia poy opws lete ``paei kala'', den yparxei dynatothta na dwsete to epidoma qermanshs stoys syntajioyxoys;

ANTWNAROS: Exw apanthsei. Den exw na prosqesw kati.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ginotan kapoia ereyna gia thn AGB kai gia tis metrhseis poy kanei kai ean ayth h etaireia leitoyrgei nomima. Teleiwse ayth;

ANTWNAROS: Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw endexomenws ayrio.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H qhteia toy Proedroy toy Radiothleoptikoy Symboylioy exei lhjei edw kai dyo, treis mhnes. De qa ton allajete; De qa janaprokhryjete th qesh; Ti qa kanete;

ANTWNAROS: Prepei na enhmerwqw gia th diadikasia.

XRHSTAKOS: Qa epanelqw sto qema me toys Boreiohpeirwtes kai qa hqela na sas rwthsw ean sto plaisio twn epafwn kai twn apofasewn ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs exei lhfqei analogh merimna, wste na prostateyqei kai to ellhniko stoixeio sth boreio Hpeiro, dioti antilambanontai oloi oti me ayth th ryqmish kai thn porta poy anoigei qa mporoyn oi Boreiohpeirwtes na erqoyn sthn Ellada kai etsi isws na yparjei problhma me to ellhniko stoixeio sthn Albania. Yparxei kapoia merimna gi` ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Oi Boreiohpeirwtes, oytws h allws, mporoyn akoloyqwntas tis synhqeis diadikasies, na erxontai sthn Ellada. Opws sas eipa pro oligoy molis, den eimai se qesh na sas pw ton akribh ariqmo twn Boreiohpeirwtwn omogenwn Albanwn yphkown, oi opoioi zoyn h ergazontai sth xwra mas. Alla akribws h dynatothta poy parexetai na apokthsoyn twra kai deyterh iqageneia toys dinei thn eyxereia na metakinoyntai pio eleyqera metajy twn dyo xwrwn. Nomizw oti ayto einai enqarryntiko stoixeio kai ypobohqhtiko gia thn omada twn Boreiohpeirwtwn omogenwn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh anaferate oti qa eprepe na eixan diasfalistei ola ta exeggya gia na mhn epelqei kapoia blabh, qa hqela na rwthsw, epeidh diatypwnetai kai sygkekrimena apo kapoio kaqhghth panepisthmioy Boreiohpeirwth, ton k. Panagiwth Mparka, shmera, yparxei epifylaktikothta ws pros to ean yparxei to endexomeno na afaireqoyn ta politika kai perioysiaka dikaiwmata twn Boreiohpeirwtwn poy zoyn sthn Albania. Ws pros ayto to sygkekrimeno, giati jerw oti einai sta plaisia ths eyaisqhsias ths kybernhshs, yphrje, yparxoyn ta exeggya gia na diasfalistoyn oi perioysies...

ANTWNAROS: Exoyn ginei asfalws oi aparaithtes epafes kai synennohseis me th geitona xwra. H Ellada diathrei me thn Albania, ws geitonikh xwra, stenes sxeseis, stenes epafes se para polloys tomeis. Sas ypenqymizw oti h Albania einai mia xwra, h opoia monh ths exei epilejei na akoloyqhsei mia eyrwpaikh prooptikh. Sta plaisia ayths ths eyrwpaikhs prooptikhs kai ths oloklhrwshs toy eyrwpaikoy dromoy poy qelei na akoloyqhsei h geitonikh mas xwra, einai aytonohto oti yparxei mia symperifora poy, opws oloi gnwrizoyn prepei na einai symbath me tis arxes kai tis ajies poy diepoyn thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai to eyrwpaiko kekthmeno. Allwste, prepei na sas qymisw oti h Albania ypegrace symfwnia syndeshs kai staqerothtas me thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Ayth einai mia epipleon isxyrh endeijh oti oi albanikes arxes qa antimetwpisoyn toys Boreiohpeirwtes omogeneis poy apoktoyn kai thn ellhnikh  kai to ypogrammizw ayto- ws deyterh iqageneia, opws antimetwpizontai oi polites olwn twn eyrwpaikwn xwrwn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ti pio emprakto yparxei peran aytwn; Giati ayto, apo o,ti katalabainoyme, einai sta plaisia prospaqeias ths Albanias na entaxqei sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. An exei dexqei na paei sto arma ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Se sxesh me tis dyo xwres, yparxei kapoio xarti sygkekrimeno poy mporei na diasfalizei empraktws ta dikaiwmata ayta twn omogenwn;

ANTWNAROS: Oi xwres krinontai apo th synolikh toys symperifora. Eidika, otan exoyn epilejei, opws sas eipa, me dikh toys prwtoboylia, me th dikh toys qelhsh na akoloyqhsoyn ena sygkekrimeno dromo poy sthn prokeimenh periptwsh einai o eyrwpaikos dromos, o eyrwpaikos prosanatolismos.

SIDERHS: Ep` aytoy, eixe bash to erwthma, giati ews twra den ginotan h ellhnopoihsh, h paroxh yphkoothtas, giati h albanikh pleyra akribws eqete to qema oti qa xasoyn thn albanikh yphkoothta. Kai rwtame, ean exei ginei kapoia symfwnia, exei syzhthqei apo thn ellhnikh pleyra h oxi.

ANTWNAROS: Den mporw na epibebaiwsw oti ayth h plhroforia poy eseis metaferete antapokrinetai sta pragmata. Ekeino to opoio h ellhnikh kybernhsh, h ellhnikh Politeia eixe ypoxrewsh na prajei kai to epraje einai se synennohseis, se epafes me thn albanikh kybernhsh kai tis albanikes arxes na kanei o,ti einai efikto, wste na diasfalistoyn ta dikaiwmata kai ta symferonta twn Boreihpeirwtwn omogenwn, oi opoioi prokeitai h endiaferontai na apokthsoyn kai thn ellhnikh iqageneia.

LEONTITSH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ep` aytoy: Peripoy stoys 30.000 omogeneis poy exoyn thn aparaithth karta, opws eipate, gnwrizete ton ariqmo twn prostateyomenwn melwn; Aytoi qa exoyn aytomata to dikaiwma na apokthsoyn ellhnikh yphkoothta;

ANTWNAROS: Kat` arxas, sas eipa oti kai oi peripoy 30.000, oi opoioi exoyn th sygkekrimenh karta kai exoyn deijei endiaferon h exoyn ypobalei aithma na politografhqoyn Ellhnes polites kai aytoi den qa ginoyn Ellhnes polites me mia aytomatopoihmenh diadikasia. Gia to qema twn prostateyomenwn melwn, qa sas parakaloysa na apeyqynqeite sto ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn. Prokeitai gia ena eidiko qema poy afora ton kwdika iqageneias ths Elladas gia to opoio den eimai se qesh na sas apanthsw.

SPYRAKH: Exete ypoch sas oti oi syndikalistes ths astynomias kanoyn dhlwseis kai lene oti qa proxwrhsoyn se leykh apergia ean den ikanopoihqei to aithma toys;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. Den exw ypoch moy tetoies dhlwseis.

SPYRAKH: Exoyn ginei dhlwseis kai epaneilhmmena kai ston entypo Typo kai sta hlektronika Mesa.

KAKALHS: Symfwna me xqesina epishma stoixeia ths Statistikhs Yphresias, 209.000 ergazomenoi se 92.000 epixeirhseis paroxhs yphresiwn pairnoyn meso mhniaio misqo 367 eyrw. Pisteyete oti einai ena kalo bhma gia na epiteyxqei o stoxos gia misqoys Balkaniwn;

ANTWNAROS: Den moy einai gnwsta ta stoixeia poy moy paroysiazete. Ayth th stigmh, dinei synenteyjh Typoy o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. Alogoskoyfhs. Einai mia kalh eykairia o synadelfos sas, poy eimai bebaios oti paristatai ekei, prolabainei allwste, na qesei to erwthma ston armodio Ypoyrgo.

PALAIOLOGOS: Mias kai hrqe to qema sthn oikonomia, o k. Alogoskoyfhs mallon prepei na erxetai me kapoia mantata apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, h opoia fainetai na exei dwsei to prasino fws gia thn arsh toy kaqestwtos ths epithrhshs se sxesh me to elleimma. Wstoso, yparxoyn fwnes kai apo thn antipoliteysh kai alloy, sygkekrimena xqes me grapth toy dhlwsh o k. Alekos Papadopoylos eipe oti to elleimma den einai se ayto poy telos pantwn ypologizei h ellhnikh kybernhsh, alla einai poly perissotero kai malista to ypologizei o idios gyrw sto 6%. Qewreite oti einai toso bebaio pia oti exete kataferei to elleimma na to meiwsete...

ANTWNAROS: Gnwrizw ta stoixeia ekeina poy anaferei h epishmh ekqesh ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs. Se ayta sthrizomai kai se ayta anaferomai.

PALAIOLOGOS: Dhladh, qa to qesw wma, den einai ``mageiremena'' ayta ta stoixeia metajy Komision ths Epitrophs kai ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Diatypwnete momfh enantion ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs;

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi. Erwthsh.

ANTWNAROS: Sas parakalw loipon, para poly! Ti einai ayta poy lete;

KAKALHS: Palaiotera ta eixe egkrinei h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph.

ANTWNAROS: Qa sas qymisw oti h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph eixe ekfrasei epaneilhmmenes epifylajeis epi stoixeiwn twn tote ellhnikwn kybernhsewn. Yparxei megalh diafora metajy toy xqes kai toy shmera.

XRHSTAKOS: H kypriakh kybernhsh emfanizetai dysaresthmenh apo thn ekqesh apo tis ejelijeis stis Bryjelles kaqws fainetai oti h Leykwsia den synainei sto na doqei mia deyterh eykairia sthn Toyrkia. Poia einai h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, h ekqesh, mexri th stigmh poy hrqa sto xwro ayto, den eixe dhmosiopoihqei. Deyteron, molis dhmosiopoihqei h ekqesh ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs, sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn qa ginei shmera enhmerwsh twn diplwmatikwn syntaktwn. Opote, sas parapempw ekei gia na kanete erwthseis epi toy dhmosiopoihmenoy keimenoy ths Epitrophs.

Sas eyxaristw.

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