Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-11-09

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GENIKH GRAMMATEIA ENHMERWSHS

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Pempth, 9 Noembrioy 2006

Ariqmos Deltioy: 39969301

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 9 Noembrioy 2006

Xairete.

Ayrio Paraskeyh 10 Noembrioy, stis 10.00, o Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs qa synanthqei sto Megaro Majimoy me ton Proedro ths Credit Agricole paroysia toy Ypoyrgoy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. Giwrgoy Alogoskoyfh.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

BLAXOS: Qa paixtei ekei kai to mellon ths Trapezas Attikhs;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kamia tetoia plhroforia.

SIDERHS: Qa parei h kybernhsh kapoia prwtoboylia gia na aposobhstei ayth h sfagh poy ginetai stoys symbasioyxoys meta thn apofash toy Elegktikoy Synedrioy; Sas qymizw oti yphrxe pro mhnos kai analogh protash toy PASOK.

ANTWNAROS: Prokeitai gia mia apofash toy Elegktikoy Synedrioy, opws orqa eipate, thn opoia h kybernhsh kai h ektelestikh ejoysia bebaiws den mporoyn na sxoliasoyn.

SIDERHS: Ma den rwthsame ean qa sxoliasete. An qa thn akyrwsete me kapoia nomikh prwtoboylia, rwthsame. Sebomaste oti den mporeite na th sxoliasete.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

SIDERHS: Qa toys afhsete etsi sto dromo;

BLAXOS: Gia thn kybernhsh, yperexei h apofash toy Elegktikoy Synedrioy kai den yperexoyn oi apofaseis twn dikasthriwn opoy oi symbasioyxoi exoyn dikaiwqei;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na enhmerwqeite akribestera gia to sygkekrimeno qema. Opws me enhmerwse o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Prokophs Paylopoylos, to Elegktiko Synedrioy einai armodio symfwna me to arqro 98 toy Syntagmatos gia ton elegxo twn dapanwn. To Elegktiko Synedrio ekrine kai malista se olomeleia.

BLAXOS: Ayto leei to Syntagma. Gia th Dikaiosynh se ayth th xwra ton prwto logo ton exei h Dikaiosynh, ta dikasthria. Exoyn megalyterh isxy ta dikasthria h to Elegktiko Synedrio gia na jeroyme ti qa ginei;

ANTWNAROS: Anaferqhka sto Syntagma.

BLAXOS: Einai poly shmantiko k. Ekproswpe na dieykrinistei apo thn kybernhsh an yperexoyn oi dikastikes apofaseis h to Elegktiko Synedrio.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Pws sxoliazei h kybernhsh thn ekqesh ths Finladikhs Proedrias gia thn entajiakh poreia ths Toyrkias; Th qewrei qetikh h th blepei me skeptikismo;

ANTWNAROS: Ep' aytwn twn qematwn topoqethqhke xqes analytika -opws sas eixa proanaggeilei allwste- o Yfypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Giannhs Balhnakhs. Sas parapempw stis dhlwseis toy.

MPALHS: Qelw th qesh ths kybernhshs gia thn prospaqeia toy kommatos toy k. Talat na ginei melos ths Sosialistikhs Dieqnoys. Kai ean to gnwrizete, kat' arxas, ti exei ginei akribws kai na moy peite th qesh.

ANTWNAROS: Prokeitai gia mia anabaqmish toy kommatos toy k. Talat me o,ti ayth h anabaqmish emperiexei shmeiologika kai opoia mhnymata stelnei. Egw stamatw edw. Gia ta ypoloipa, parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto PASOK.

MPALHS: Otan lete ``mhnymata stelnei'', ti mhnymata kai se poion ta stelnei; Ti mhnymata einai ayta;

ANTWNAROS: Pantws oxi qetika mhnymata.

KAKALHS: To problhma twn symbasioyxwn einai problhma politiko h nomiko; Ayto prwta apo ola prepei na jekaqarisei h kybernhsh, giati to Elegktiko Synedrio kinhqhke me bash toys nomoys poy exei hdh to Proedriko Diatagma Paylopoyloy, toys nomoys dhladh ths kybernhshs.

ANTWNAROS: Peran twn oswn eipa, den exw na prosqesw kati allo.

PALAIOLOGOS: Pera apo ta dikastika kai th nomikh ptyxh toy qematos twn symbasioyxwn, yparxei kai h koinwnikh kai h politikh. Qa qymisw thn politikh: Proeklogika h kybernhsh kai dia stomatos Prwqypoyrgoy, alla kai toy armodioy Ypoyrgoy Eswterikwn, eixe pei oti apo th stigmh poy qa anebaine sthn ejoysia qa teleiwne h omhria twn syntajioyxwn. Sthn prokeimenh periptwsh me thn apofash ayth den anagnwrizete oti adikoyntai gyrw stis 200 xiliades kosmos;

ANTWNAROS: Emmesws me kaleite na sxoliasw thn apofash. Sas eipa oti den qa to kanw kai menw se ayto. H kybernhsh einai synephs kai stis ejaggelies ths kai stis ypoxrewseis ths kai stis desmeyseis ths.

BLAXOS: Sas kaloyme na sxoliasete mia apofash. Eiste Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, den eiste Pontios Pilatos. Prepei na exete apoch gia kati poy apasxolei mia megalh merida politwn. Dhladh, an h kybernhsh den exei apoch gia ena problhma poy dhmioyrghqhke gia megalh merida politwn mas poios qa exei; Gia peite moy sas parakalw poly.

ANTWNAROS: Katagrafw to logidrio sas.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, giati na mh sas kathgorhsoyme gia mikropolitikh taktikh me ayto poy eipate gia to komma toy k. Talat. To komma ayto, meteixe ws parathrhths aplo kai h Sosialistikh Dieqnhs eipe oti to dexetai epeidh, dexetai thn Kypro ws eniaia. Den htan ekproswpos toy ceydokratoys.

ANTWNAROS: Ekana mia safh dhlwsh. Diabaste thn prosektika, parakalw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa epanelqw sto qema twn symbasioyxwn. Den qewreite oti qa prepei na parqei toylaxiston, mia prwtoboylia prokeimenoy ayto to qema ws koinwniko na lyqei;

ANTWNAROS: Exw apanthsei.

MELIGKWNHS: Tis prohgoymenes hmeres mas eixe pei o k. Roysopoylos oti den qa xreiastei na kanei kapoia epishmh diamartyria, kapoio diabhma h ellhnikh kybernhsh gia tis dhlwseis toy Epitetrammenoy ths Amerikanikhs Presbeias. Wstoso, xqes, to Steht Nthpartment, oysiastika ton kalyce, milwntas gia eqnikhs katagwghs Makedones kai Albanoys poy zoyn sthn Ellada kai apoteloyn meionothtes, legontas oti sebontai th Synqhkh ths Lwzanhs men, alla ayth den einai bash ths amerikanikhs nomikhs ermhneias. To sxolio ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh, h ellhnikh Politeia topoqethqhke xqes, se erwthseis poy eginan, mesw toy k. Koymoytsakoy, toy Ekproswpoy Typoy toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, o opoios eipe metajy twn allwn ayto poy kai emeis se ayton ton xwro sas exoyme pei epaneilhmmenws, oti h politikh mas einai safhs. Einai politikh isonomias kai isopoliteias gia oloys toys Ellhnes polites, anejarthtws qrhskeymatos kai allwn xarakthristikwn. Eipe, epishs, o k. Koymoytsakos, se sxetikes erwthseis, oti ean yparxei diaforetikh ermhneia, ayto afora ekeinoys poy thn kanoyn. H Ellada kai h ellhnikh Politeia poy den exei tipote na krycei kai apo tipote na problhmatistei, paramenei sth qesh thn opoia gnwrizete.

BLAXOS: Etoimazetai h kybernhsh na dwsei ayjhseis gennaies stoys boyleytes, meta thn apofash twn dikastwn gia tis amoibes twn dikastwn;

ANTWNAROS: Opws sas eipa kai prohgoymenws, pagiws h kybernhsh den sxoliazei apofaseis dikastikwn organwn. Qa anaferqw loipon, mono sto skelos poy afora thn kybernhsh ws exoysa thn eyqynh gia thn antimetwpish twn dyskoliwn ths oikonomias. H shmerinh sygkyria den antexei kinhseis poy ephreazoyn tis isorropies ths oikonomikhs politikhs poy akoloyqoyme, prokeimenoy na bgoyme apo to dyskolo topio poy paralabame kai diaxeirizomaste.

BLAXOS: Anejarthta an to aithma twn dikastwn einai dikaio h oxi;

PALAIOLOGOS: Htan mhnyma pros toys dikastikoys, an katalaba kala;

ANTWNAROS: Molis topoqethqhka.

BLAXOS: Rwtw, anejarthta an ayto to aithma twn dikastwn einai dikaio kai an h apofash toys einai nomotyph;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti den prokeitai na sxoliasw apofaseis dikasthriwn.

BLAXOS: Ta lefta qa ta dwsete, ayto mas endiaferei.

ANTWNAROS: Einai poly nwris na sas pw otidhpote allo. Qa prohghqei endelexhs meleth olwn twn ptyxwn toy qematos kai tote qa ta janapoyme.

SIDERHS: Nomikh prwtoboylia qa parete, epanalambanw, gia aytoys toys anqrwpoys poy doylecan kai kindyneyoyn na mhn paroyn oyte ta dedoyleymena; Thn idia stigmh poy oi dikastes prokaloyn me tis apofaseis gia ton eayto toys;

ANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na pw, to eipa

POYLIDOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes poy sas eqesa to idio erwthma, me parapemcate sto Ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs. Apo xqes ews shmera, ti mesolabhse;

ANTWNAROS: Sthn erwthsh poy moy ypobalate xqes apanthsa prin apo otidhpote allo, opws prokyptei apo ta praktika, oti den gnwriza th sygkekrimenh apofash toy Eidikoy aytoy Dikasthrioy, to opoio problepetai apo to Syntagma. Katopin sas eipa oti den qa sxoliasw thn apofash kai sas parepemca ontws, sto Ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs, ws armodio gia qemata dikastwn. Shmera, exontas enhmerwqei, sas edwsa mia pio oloklhrwmenh, mia pio sfairikh apanthsh gia to qema.

BLABIANOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, prosfatws problhqhkan dyo ekpompes sthn thleorash me qema tis ypoklopes synomiliwn mesw kinhtwn thlefwnwn. Koinh diapistwsh einai oti prokeitai mallon gia eykolh kai fqhnh ypoqesh. Rwtw, ean h kybernhsh gnwrizei ayto olo me bash ayto poy gnwrizoyme peri polyplokothtas, opws eixe pei o k. Boylgarakhs, kai an nai, ti kanei gia na prostateysei ton Ellhna polith;

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw to qema kai den mporw na topoqethqw kaqoloy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eixa kanei xqes, dyo erwthseis.

ANTWNAROS: Den eimai etoimos na sas apanthsw akomh.

MELIGKWNHS: Ws gnwsto, apo 1/1/2007, qa kopoyn oi epiprosqetes efhmeries sta nosokomeia kai anamenetai na ayjhqoyn ta problhmata. Mporeite na apokleisete oti h kybernhsh qa epanejetasei thn protash toy k. Abramopoyloy gia proslhceis noshleytikoy proswpikoy ektos ASEP;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw, na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Ygeias.

PALAIOLOGOS: Pws aisqanqhkate ws kybernhsh otan eidate xqes, ta binteo toy Swmateioy twn Astynomikwn, poy ypenqymizoyn tis yposxeseis poy eixate dwsei ws kybernhsh, o idios o Prwqypoyrgos proswpika, o Ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs, se sxesh me thn ayrianh synanthsh poy qa exei o k. Alogoskoyfhs me ton k. Polydwra.

ANTWNAROS: As perimenete thn ayrianh synanthsh. Egw pantws den eida kanena binteo.

PALAIOLOGOS: To qewreite probokatsia endexomenws;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio. Shmasia exei oti h kybernhsh, staqerh stis yposxeseis ths, staqerh stis desmeyseis ths, proxwrei sthn efarmogh toy programmatos ths. Ayto to gnwrizoyn kai to diapistwnoyn oloena kai perissoteroi Ellhnes polites.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas peite gia poio logo periodeyoyn ta stelexh ths Ameriakanikhs Presbeias sth Qrakh; Mhpws gia na bohqhsoyn th meionothta na aytoprosdioristei ws toyrkikh, opws einai h qesh kai an ayto to qema qa teqei apo thn Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn sth synanthsh poy exei shmera me ton k. Ris.

ANTWNAROS: Rwtate emena na sas apanthsw gia poio logo jenoi diplwmates -nomimws diapisteymenoi sth xwra mas, mia xwra eleyqerh opoy opoiosdhpote episkepths mporei na paei se opoiadhpote gwnia ths xwras mas- episkeptontai diafores perioxes ths xwras mas;

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, alla exw diakhrygmenh qesh...

ANTWNAROS: H qesh sas einai anafaireto dikaiwma sas.

KAKALHS: Oxi. Aytoi exoyn diakhrygmenh qesh kai to exei ekfrasei kai o Amerikanos Presbeyths ston OASE oti yparxei albanikh, toyrkikh kai makedonikh meionothta sthn Ellada.

ANTWNAROS: Molis rwthqhka pro oligoy kai sas anefera th qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Ayto poy metraei gia emas einai h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs.

KAKALHS: Jerete ean h k. Ntora Mpakogiannh qa ekfrasei kapoio diabhma, kapoia diamartyria ston k. Ris sth synanthsh poy exoyn shmera;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

MELIGKWNHS: Qa hqela na epanelqw sto qema me ta nosokomeia. O k. Abramopoylos ston opoio me parapemcate, exei epaneilhmmenws pei oti ayth qa htan h lysh, dhladh h proslhch ektos ASEP. Gi` ayto, epeidh einai politikh apofash, h kybernhsh...

ANTWNAROS: As mhn dramatopoioyme katastaseis kai ennow thn katastash opws moy thn perigrafetai sthn prohgoymenh erwthsh sas. Exoyn epelqei shmantikes beltiwseis sth leitoyrgia toy systhmatos ygeionomikhs periqalchs sth xwra mas kai ginontai oloena kainoyrgia bhmata pros peraiterw beltiwsh ths.

BLAXOS: To qema einai an qa dwsete proswpiko gia na leitoyrghsoyn ta nosokomeia.

ANTWNAROS: Otan yparjei kati, qa to plhroforhqeite.

PALAIOLOGOS: Me sygxwreite poy qa epanelqw pali sto qema twn symbasioyxwn, alla yparxei toylaxiston ektimhsh apo thn pleyra toy k. Benizeloy oti h apofash ayth toy Elegktikoy Synedrioy antibainei ta oria toy Syntagmatos kai sthn prokeimenh periptwsh edw mpainei to qema oti qa eprepe na idryqei to Syntagmatiko Dikasthrio gia na mporesei na lysei ena tetoio zhthma.

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na sxoliasw thn topoqethsh kanenos boyleytoy. Pantws, qa hqela na sas ypenqymisw oti stis protaseis ths kybernhshs sxetika me thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos perilambanetai kai h protash gia thn idrysh Syntagmatikoy Dikasthrioy.

BLAXOS: To Syntagma problepei oti enas ergazomenos, otan doyleyei me apofash toy Elegktikoy Synedrioy, mporei na mhn parei ta lefta toy, ta opoia...

ANTWNAROS: Den eimai syntagmatologos gia na sas apanthsw kai den prokeitai na apanthsw se qemata eidika.

BLAXOS: Lew ean to Syntagma problepei oti kapoios poy doylece den mporei na parei ta lefta toy.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

BLAXOS: Eseis prin apo ligo epikalesthkate to Syntagma gia th leitoyrgia...

ANTWNAROS: Anaferqhka se sygkekrimeno qema. Sas parepemca kai se sygkekrimeno arqro.

BLAXOS: H apofash, omws, toy Elegktikoy Synedrioy leei oti den qa mporoyn na paroyn ta lefta toys. Oi anqrwpoi aytoi den...

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai, se kamia periptwsh, opws kai na moy ypobalete thn erwthsh, na ekfrasw opoiasdhpote morfhs sxolio gia thn apofash toy Elegktikoy Synedrioy.

BLAXOS: Oxi. Lew kata thn kybernhsh den einai parabiash toy Syntagmatos to gegonos oti kapoios ergazomenos poy doylece den qa parei ta lefta toy;

ANTWNAROS: Prospaqeite, dia ths plagias odoy, na me kanete na sxoliasw mia apofash thn opoia den prokeitai na sxoliasw, se kamia periptwsh.

BLAXOS: Prospaqw na katalabw ean sebeste to Syntagma kai to gegonos oti enas ergazomenos, otan doyleyei, prepei na pairnei to misqo toy. Ayto qelw na katalabw, ean to sebeste h oxi.

ANTWNAROS: Nomizw oti h qhteia moy gia peripoy dyomish xronia se ayth thn aiqoysa den mporei na egeirei amfibolies ws pros to sebasmo poy exw gia to Syntagma kai toys nomoys ths xwras. Kai h kybernhsh poreyetai, opws ola ta melh ths, oloi oi ypoyrgoi, oloi oi yfypoyrgoi me gnwmona to Syntagma kai toys nomoys ths xwras.

SIDERHS: Qewreite aytoys toys anqrwpoys qymata ths politikhs sas;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti h politikh mas apoblepei sthn epilysh problhmatwn, ta opoia eixan sysswreyqei epi dyo peripoy dekaeties sth xwra apo tis prohgoymenes kybernhseis...

SIDERHS: Gia pempth fora.

ANTWNAROS: ... kai ta problhmata ayta epilyontai stadiaka kai apotelesmatika.

SIDERHS: Gia pempth fora, prwtoboylia qa parete gi` aytoys toys anqrwpoys; Qa toys epilysete to problhma (den akoygetai)

ANTWNAROS: Exw apanthsei. Den exw na pw kati allo panw se ayto.

PAPAMIXAHL: Na rwthsw kati dieykrinistiko: Eipate prin apo ligo oti h kybernhsh proxwra sthn efarmogh toy programmatos ths. Qewreite oti oi ayjhseis stoys dikastikoys parabiazoyn thn efarmogh aytoy toy programmatos;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei h dhlwsh poy ekana otan rwthqhka sxetika.

KAKALHS: Den akoysa thn kybernhsh na katadikazei to neo egklhma toy israhlinoy stratoy, th sfagh twn gynaikopaidwn sthn Mpeit Xanoyt; Oyte akoysa na pei kati gia toys 260 Palaistinioys poy exoyn dolofonhqei ton teleytaio kairo. Exete kapoia ejhghsh;

ANTWNAROS: Den diaqetw ta sygkekrimena stoixeia sta opoia anafereste. Eimai sigoyros oti ean apeyqynqeite ston k. Koymoytsako, qa labete thn apanthsh sto erwthma sas.

Sas eyxaristw.

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