Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-02-27

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 27 Febroyarioy 2006

JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

Ayrio, Trith 28 Febroyarioy stis 11:00, qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, me qema thn enhmerwsh twn melwn ths K.E. gia toys stoxoys twn apokratikopoihsewn. Amesws meta, stis 12.00, qa synedriasei, epishs ypo thn Proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Karamanlh, to KYSEA, me qema tis kriseis gia tis qeseis twn arxhgwn twn Enoplwn Dynamewn kai twn Swmatwn Asfaleias.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SARANTAKOS: Qa hqela to sxolio sas gia th dhmoskophsh poy paroysiase xqes h efhmerida ``EQNOS THS KYRIAKHS'', symfwna me thn opoia gia prwth fora apo tis ekloges ths 7hs Martioy, to PASOK exei probadisma enanti ths Neas Dhmokratias sthn proqesh chfoy.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa exoyme pei epaneilhmmenws gia tis dhmoskophseis. Einai pantote ena xrhsimo ergaleio poy katagrafei tis taseis poy yparxoyn se mia dedomenh stigmh.

SARANTAKOS: Qewreite oti ayth h dhmoskophsh einai mhnyma gia thn kybernhsh@;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei thn yposthrijh ths megalhs pleiochfias twn Ellhnwn politwn gia to metarryqmistiko ergo to opoio prowqei kai efarmozei.

SARANTAKOS: Kai ena deytero synafes erwthma, ean moy epitrepete: H anodos toy posostoy toy kommatos toy k. Karatzaferh, etsi opws katagrafetai sth dhmoskophsh, problhmatizei thn kybernhsh; Me dedomeno oti yparxoyn kapoies diarroes;

ANTWNAROS: Den kanw kanena eidiko sxolio gia dhmoskophseis.

SPYRAKH: Exw dyo erwthseis. H prwth afora sth dhmoskophsh, wstoso eseis den kanete sxolia kai xarakthrizete th dhmoskophsh ergaleio, omws h ektimhsh toy kybernwntos kommatos, einai oti ta apotelesmata ayths ths dhmoskophshs, den sympiptoyn me ta apotelesmata allwn dhmoskophsewn, poy diejhxqhsan to teleytaio xroniko diasthma. Qelw na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh amfisbhtei thn ajiopistia ayths ths dhmoskophshs.

ANTWNAROS: Moy metaferete symperasmata gia ta opoia egw den gnwrizw apo poy proerxontai.

SPYRAKH: Den sas metaferw symperasmata, aplws (den akoygetai).

ANTWNAROS: Prwton: Den sxoliazw symperasmata, ta opoia eseis metaferete kai ta opoia egw den gnwrizw. Deyteron: O,ti eixa na pw gia to sygkekrimeno qema to exw pei.

SPYRAKH: Qelw na sas rwthsw gia to qema ``Kapodistria'', ti diaforetiko exei h Koinothta toy Braxasioy, h opoia katekthse thn aytonomia ths enanti toy ``Kapodistria'', apo thn Koinothta toy Neoy Marmara ths Xalkidikhs;

ANTWNAROS: Exei apanthsei s` ayto eparkestata o armodios ypoyrgos k. Paylopoylos sth Boylh.

SIDERHS: Giati sto Neo Marmara ejegeirontai gia ton ``Kapodistria''; Mhpws den exoyn katalabei oti h kybernhsh qa ton katarghsei, opws eixe yposxeqei proeklogika;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa kai alles fores oti exete kaqe dynatothta na kanete sxolia, na katalhgete se symperasmata ayqaireta h mh -tis perissoteres fores ayqaireta, speydw na pw, xwris ayto na exei kamia epikritikh diaqesh- alla h kybernhsh den exei proqesh na proxwrhsei ekei opoy eseis ypainisseste.

MPALHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, diabazontas ta stoixeia apo tis trapezes, blepoyme gia mia akomh fora na exoyn astronomika kerdh. Qelw na sas rwthsw to ejhs, to sxolio sas qelw: Mhpws ektimate oti kapoia stigmh, qa prepei na wfelhqoyn apo ayta kai oi ergazomenoi; Dioti se polles periptwseis lambanontai kapoies apofaseis, xwris na yparxei dialogos metajy ths hgesias ths mias trapezas kai twn ergazomenwn.

ANTWNAROS: Prwton: Se oles tis periptwseis, opws gnwrizete, h kybernhsh einai yper toy dialogoy. Kai yposthrizoyme kai se ayth thn periptwsh oti prepei na yparxei dialogos. Deyteron: H kybernhsh qewrei aytonohto, pws opoy yparxoyn kerdh -kai eidika megala kerdh- qa prepei apo ena meridio aytwn twn kerdwn na wfeloyntai kai oi ergazomenoi, poy allwste symballoyn sto na yparxoyn ayta ta kerdh. Ayto isxyei bebaiws kai stis trapezes.

KYRITSHS: Qelw na rwthsw, ean exete metaferei thn apoch poy molis mas ekqesate stoys epikefalhs twn kratikwn trapezwn poy arnhqhkan to dialogo kai qeloyn na katarghsoyn tis symbaseis.

ANTWNAROS: Opws sas anefera, h kybernhsh yposthrizei staqera to dialogo. Ton yposthrizei se ola ta epipeda kai se oloys toys tomeis. Den yparxei, omws, katanagkasmos, den yparxei h dynatothta na ejanagkaseis kapoion na parei meros se enan dialogo.

KYRITSHS: Oyte aytoys poy exei (den akoygetai)

ANTWNAROS: Ekeino poy metra gia thn kybernhsh einai oti gia thn epilysh twn qematwn qa prepei na yparjei mia diallaktikh proseggish.

KYRITSHS: Akoysa ton Prwqypoyrgo, thn Paraskeyh, poy anaferotan stis apergies kai milage gia akraies morfes, oi opoies den mporei na ginoyn anektes. Kai epeidh den katalaba akribws, ayrio-meqayrio qa aperghsoyn oi ergazomenoi stis sygkoinwnies -to exoyn ejaggeilei hdh- ayth h apergia poy den epitrepei sto epibatiko koino na phgainei stis doyleies toy k.t.l., den ginetai anekth;

ANTWNAROS: Kaneis den amfisbhtei to dikaiwma twn ergazomenwn h omadwn ergazomenwn na apergoyn kai na diekdikoyn ta dikaiwmata toys. Den einai dynaton, omws, mia mikrh omada na prokalei me th symperifora ths mia megalh anastatwsh sth leitoyrgia toy synoloy ths koinwnias.

PAPAGIANNHS: Qa hqela na kanw dyo erwthseis. H prwth afora th sigoyrh allagh sthn hgesia ths EL.AS. kai to endexomeno na topoqethqei neos arxhgos o k. Dhmosxakhs. Epaije rolo gia thn kybernhsh to gegonos oti o k. Dhmosxakhs einai steno syggeniko proswpo toy prwhn boyleyth ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Fanh Dhmosxakh;

ANTWNAROS: Oi allages sthn hgesia ths EL.AS. qa anakoinwqoyn ayrio, meta th synedriash toy KYSEA. Ep` aytoy den exw na pw tipote allo.

PAPAGIANNHS: Kai h deyterh erwthsh afora thn anodo twn epitokiwn poy blepoyme kai parathroyme oloi. Malista, shmera, prwtoselido dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas ``TA NEA'' anaferetai se ayto. Yparxei to endexomeno na parembei se kentriko epipedo h kybernhsh, mesa sta plaisia twn proeklogikwn ejaggeliwn opoy miloyse tote gia sygkrathsh twn epitokiwn;

ANTWNAROS: Den antilambanomai ti qelete na peite. Opws gnwrizete, to epitokio toy eyrw orizetai kentrika apo thn Eyrwpaikh Kentrikh Trapeza. To epitokio toy eyrw den to orizei kapoios ellhnikos foreas.

PAPAGIANNHS: Mporei, omws, na ginei dialogos me toys trapezites.

ANTWNAROS: Sas epanalambanw oti to epitokio orizetai apo thn Eyrwpaikh Kentrikh Trapeza.

SPYRAKH: Me sygxwreite poy epanerxomai sthn ypoqesh toy ``Kapodistria'', alla einai qema poy kyriarxei sthn enhmerwsh kai sthn epikairothta kai logw twn kinhtopoihsewn twn katoikwn twn perioxwn poy aisqanontai adikhmenoi. Yparxei, loipon, h ektimhsh -kai sas to lew meta logoy gnwsews- oti h kybernhsh ekane dwro sth geneteira toy k. Zoyrarh thn aytonomia kai krata tis ypoloipes koinothtes poy diamartyrontai se enan idiotypo apokleismo. Eseis pws sxoliazete ayth thn ektimhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti se ayto to qema exei apanthsei me megalh eparkeia, se baqos kai me leptomereies o ypoyrgos Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs sth Boylh. Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo.

KAKALHS: Eipate oti h kybernhsh exei thn pleiochfia toy ellhnikoy laoy me to meros ths gia to metarryqmistiko ths ergo. Apo poy prokyptei kati tetoio, ektos apo tis dhmoskophseis, oi opoies omws synolika deixnoyn mia syrriknwsh ths eklogikhs epirrohs toy kybernwntos kommatos.

ANTWNAROS: Prepei na diabazei kaneis tis dhmoskophseis, tis metrhseis ths koinhs gnwmhs, se baqos xronoy kai poly pio analytika. Kai tote qa katalhjei asfalestata sto symperasma poy sas anefera pro oligoy.

KAKALHS: Eipate, epishs, oti einai aytonohto, oti prepei na wfeloyntai oi ergazomenoi apo ta yperkerdh, poy exoyn oi epixeirhseis. Qa epishmanw oti apo ta mexri twra apotelesmata poy exoyn dhmosieyqei twn eishgmenwn epixeirhsewn sto xrhmatisthrio, gia to 2005, blepw oti ta kerdh trexoyn me 50%, sxedon 20 fores panw apo ton plhqwrismo. H kybernhsh, omws, sth ``grammh'' poy exei dwsei einai oti oi ayjhseis stoys ergazomenoys den prepei na einai panw apo 3%, dhladh, stis DEKO. Ayto den einai aytonohto, ayto qelw na pw, oti dhladh na epwfeloyntai kai oi ergazomenoi apo ta kerdh.

ANTWNAROS: Profanws mperdeyete dyo diaforetika qemata. Twra anafereste se epixeirhseis (DEKO), oi opoies, edw kai para polla xronia, paroysiazoyn elleimmata. Ayta ta elleimmata prepei na antimetwpistoyn, na parameristoyn, wste se baqos xronoy, me th diathrhsh aytwn twn epixeirhsewn se ygih bash, na mporesoyn na wfelhqoyn kai oi ergazomenoi.

KAKALHS: Oi ergazomenoi, omws, stis alles epixeirhseis, poy exoyn jeperasei to problhma twn elleimmatwn den blepoyme na epwfeloyntai, ean to qeloyme etsi.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei plhrws h dhlwsh poy ekana eisagwgika.

SARANTAKOS: Na epanelqw sto qema toy ``Kapodistria'': Eipate prohgoymenws oti h kybernhsh den anoigei qema ``Kapodistria''. Dhladh, h ypoqesh me to Braxasi einai mia memonwmenh periptwsh, den qa yparjoyn alles allages;

ANTWNAROS: Sto qema exei topoqethqei o ypoyrgos Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs k. Paylopoylos. Den exw na pw apolytws tipota allo gia ton ``Kapodistria''.

SARANTAKOS: Einai kentrikh h apofash ths kybernhshs. O k. Paylopoylos eixe enhmerwsei ton Prwqypoyrgo oti qa labei ayth thn apofash;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh dra syllogika, mhn exete kamia amfibolia gi` ayto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Xqes, h efhmerida ``PARON'' dhmosieyse dhlwsh ths kas Mpenakh, symfwna me thn opoia o k. Korwnias qa eprepe na einai fylakh. Eseis ti lete;

ANTWNAROS: Sas epanalambanw ayto poy exoyme pei epaneilhmmenws kai o k. Roysopoylos kai egw: Brisketai se ejelijh dikastikh ereyna, ths opoias qa prepei na perimenoyme to apotelesma. H ereyna einai mystikh. Den exoyme na poyme tipota epi twn endexomenwn eyrhmatwn h twn stadiwn ths dikastikhs ereynas.

MOYRTHS: H kybernhsh mhpws skeftetai sto qema toy ``Kapodistria'' se orismenes periptwseis koinothtwn poy exoyn diatypwsei kapoia aithmata na diejagagei topika dhmochfismata;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw tipota allo gi ayto to qema.

MANH: Eipate prin oti h kybernhsh yposthrizei ton dialogo, peran toytoy, yparxei kybernhtikh systash pros tis dioikhseis twn kratikwn trapezwn na jekinhsoyn dialogo me thn OTOE, kati poy mexri twra den ginotan;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh yposthrizei to dialogo metajy twn koinwnikwn etairwn, prokeimenoy na breqoyn lyseis poy na einai apodektes apo tis dyo pleyres. Prepei, loipon, na symfwnhsoyn oi dyo pleyres ean, pote, me poies proypoqeseis qa katsoyn gyrw apo ena trapezi gia na syzhthsoyn. Pio apla den mporw na sas to pw.

Sas eyxaristw.

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