Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-12-01

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 1h Dekembrioy 2005

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY

APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete kai kalo mhna.

O Prwqypoyrgos, ayrio stis 12:00, qa synanthqei sto Megaro Majimoy me to Proedreio ths Enwsews Syntaktwn Hmerhsiwn Efhmeridwn Aqhnwn, katopin aithmatos ths Enwsews.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pws sxoliazei h kybernhsh to klima poy exei dhmioyrghqei stis sxeseis twn ypoyrgwn Oikonomias kai Anaptyjhs me ton Dioikhth ths DEH; Qa hqela na sas ypenqymisw oti o Dioikhths ths DEH ekane logo sthn ``Kaqhmerinh ths Kyriakhs'' gia diakommatikh kalych ths diaplokhs apo politika stelexh ypoyrgeiwn kai xqes o k. Alogoskoyfhs eipe oti an ton yponoei, qa prosfygei sth dikaiosynh, enw o k. Sioyfas ekane logo gia proswpikes apoceis.

ROYSOPOYLOS: O ypoyrgos Anaptyjhs k. Sioyfas, ws armodios gia th DEH, exei kalesei to meshmeri ton k. Palaiokrassa, sto grafeio toy.

TSIODRAS: Eixate pei, an den kanw laqos, mias kai den hmoyn parwn, ap` osa eixa diabasei oti oi dhlwseis toy k. Palaiokrassa aforoyn to parelqon kai oxi to shmera. Ap` o,ti apodeixqhke xqes apo tis dhlwseis toy idioy, aforoyse to shmera kai oxi sto parelqon.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa moy epitrecete na diafwnhsw me to ``apodeixqhke''. Eixa anaferqei sth synomilia poy eixa me ton k. Palaiokrassa kai sthn opoia emmenw. Xqes o k. Palaiokrassas eipe kati allo. O idios ofeilei na dwsei peraiterw ejhghseis sth dhmosiothta.

SIDERHS: Pws ejhgeite to gegonos oti oloi eixame katalabei pws anaferotan sto twra kai hsastan o monos poy katalabate oti anaferotan sto parelqon;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa parakalesw na janadiabasete thn politikh enhmerwsh ths Deyteras.

SIDERHS: To qymamai.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Tote exete thn apanthsh sto erwthma sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, na perimenoyme oti o k. Palaiokrassas ``apokefalizetai'';

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ton exei kalesei o k. Sioyfas sto Grafeio toy to meshmeri.

POYLIDOY: Gia kalo mhna;

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Ti wra qa ginei h synanthsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei programmatistei gia tis 14:30, alla den eimai bebaios an qa thrhqei h wra, giati o k. Sioyfas prokeitai na paroysiasei ena nomosxedio se Epitroph ths Boylhs, synepws h synanthsh qa ginei amesws meta th lhjh twn ergasiwn ths Epitrophs.

MIXAHL: Qelw na sas rwthsw to ejhs: Eprepe na ftasoyn edw ta pragmata me ton k. Palaiokrassa gia na ton kalesei o k. Sioyfas gia ejhghseis; Giati o k. Palaiokrassas, den einai mono oi dhlwseis poy ekane sthn ``Kaqhmerinh'' kai dhmioyrghsan ayton ton kyklo syzhthsewn kai antegklhsewn kai aixmwn kai sto parelqon eixe kanei ayto to pragma, kai malista to Dioikhtiko Symboylio ths DEH enhmerwse kai ton Prwqypoyrgo kai thn hgesia toy kommatos ths Neas Dhmokratias. Ara, eixate yp` ocin ti kanei o k. Palaiokrassas sth DEH. Giati kaqysterhsate toso poly;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exoyn yparjei kai alles fores synanthseis kai synergasies toy k. Palaiokrassa me ton armodio gia th DEH ypoyrgo k. Sioyfa. Ara, loipon, den einai h prwth fora poy kaleitai sto grafeio toy. Sto parelqon exoyn syzhthsei ta diafora qemata diejodika. Se o,ti afora to synolo twn qematwn poy exoyn kataggelqei h yponohqei, gnwrizete poly kala th qesh ths kybernhshs: Opoios exei to opoiodhpote stoixeio na to kataqetei sth dikaiosynh. Kai exw pei polles fores se ayth thn aiqoysa oti den einai oyte prosklhsh oyte paraklhsh. Einai entolh toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Palaiokrassas exei paei sth dikaiosynh kapoioys epixeirhmaties.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gi` ayto eimai bebaios oti ean exei kati h ean eixe kati, qa ekane to idio kai gia ta shmerina, opws ton akoysa na leei xqes. Otan yparxei ena opoiodhpote stoixeio, ofeiloyme na prosfygoyme sth dikaiosynh.

PEPONHS: O k. Palaiokrassas apasxolei thn epikairothta gia poly megalo diasthma, oxi gia to ergo toy, alla gia tis diafwnies poy exei me thn kybernhsh. Ean laboyme ypoch mas oti o k. Palaiokrassas paraithqhke apo boyleyths Kykladwn gia na analabei Proedros ths DEH, mhpws ayto toy isxyropoiei mia qesh poy exei ekei kai toso kairo den exei doqei mia lysh se ayth th dienejh poy yparxei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den katalabainw to syllogismo sas. Parakalw na moy dieykrinisete ti ennoeite.

PEPONHS: Mhpws h analhch ths qeshs toy sth DEH ypokryptei kai mia symfwnia se kybernhtiko epipedo gia na paraithqei apo boyleyths kai na paei sth DEH. Giati einai toso isxyros o k. Palaiokrassas; Dhmioyrgei synexeia problhmata sthn kybernhsh kai ayth kaqe toso ton kalei na dinei ejhghseis kai ante pali to idio na symbainei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai gnwsto oti yphrje synennohsh na analabei ayth th qesh kai gi` ayto to logo paraithqhke apo boyleyths. Opoiadhpote ``symfwnia'' gia na ginei kati en kryptw, bebaiws kai den yparxei, ean ayto ypainissetai h erwthsh sas.

PEPONHS: Den ypainissomai an egine kati en kryptw, alla h isxyropoihsh ths qeshs toy sth DEH, giati egw den qymamai, ta teleytaia xronia toylaxiston, na exei symbei na diafwnei o yfistamenos me ton proistameno toy, me olh thn kybernhsh kai na menei sth qesh toy. Den qymamai na exei symbei se allon.

ROYSOPOYLOS: O Kwnstantinos Karamanlhs synhqize na leei oti ``den tima h qesh to proswpo, alla to proswpo th qesh''.

SIDERHS: Ek toy apotelesmatos exei metaniwsei o Prwqypoyrgos gia ayth thn katastrathghsh ths laikhs qelhshs; Giati ejelegh boyleyths gia na ton exei ena tmhma toy kosmoy ekproswpo sth Boylh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Htan askhsh nomimoy dikaiwmatos. Ara, loipon, den antilambanomai to sxolio sas.

SIDERHS: Eipa ek toy apotelesmatos. Me th symperifora toy k. Palaiokrassa, ean exei metaniwsei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti den apantw se tetoies erwthseis.

TSIODRAS: Hqela na rwthsw, ean yphrxe synennohsh toy k. Sioyfa me ton Prwqypoyrgoy, enocei ths synanthshs me ton k. Palaiokrassa to meshmeri.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti ennoeite ``synennohsh'';

TSIODRAS: Ennow ean syzhthsan gia to periexomeno ths syzhthshs poy qa exoyn shmera me ton k. Palaiokrassa kai an yparxoyn kapoies systaseis apo thn pleyra toy Prwqypoyrgoy..

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw na exei yparjei synennohsh, opws thn ennoeite eseis. Einai bebaio oti o armodios ypoyrgos askei ta dikaiwmata toy gia na plhroforhqei perissotera gi` ayta poy o k. Palaiokrassas ypainissetai .

POYLIDOY: Epikoinwnia yphrje;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Tinos;

POYLIDOY: Toy k. Sioyfa me ton Prwqypoyrgo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos epikoinwnei sxedon kaqhmerina me oloys toys ypoyrgoys toy.

POYLIDOY: Me ton sygkekrimeno;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epikoinwnei kaqhmerina sxedon me oloys toys ypoyrgoys toy.

POYLIDOY: Symperilambanomenoy@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Fysika.

KAKALHS: Qewreite oti ayth h kontra koryfhs gia th DEH, den exei sxesh me ta symferonta poy epofqalmioyn kai poy qeloyn na baloyn xeri sthn agora energeias kai ara mesw aytwn na yparxoyn sygkekrimenoi roloi. Dhladh, o k. Palaiokrassas na ekfrazei ta symferonta toy dhmosioy tomea kai oi ypoyrgoi na qeloyn na ekfrasoyn toys idiwtes, poy qeloyn na mpoyn sth DEH;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Aporriptw diarrhdhn ayto poy lete. Oydeis apo ta stelexh ths kybernhshs prospaqei na ``paijei'' me diafora symferonta. Gi ayto epaneilhmmena o Prwqypoyrgos, alla ki egw se ayth thn aiqoysa, exoyme pei oti opoios exei to opoiodhpote stoixeio, ofeilei na to kataqesei sth dikaiosynh, prokeimenoy na ereynhqei. Ayto apodeiknyei poies einai oi pragmatikes, diaygeis kai jekaqares skeceis ths kybernhshs. O opoiodhpote exei to otidhpote antiqeto ofeilei na to pei. Qa leitoyrgoyse diaforetika h kybernhsh ean skeptotan etsi opws lete eseis. Den qa ebgaina kaqe toso na pw oti opoios exei stoixeia ofeilei na ta kataqesei sth dikaiosynh.

KAKALHS: Wstoso h DEH den symmetexei, me kybernhtikh apofash, ean den kanw laqos sthn kainoyrgia monada paragwghs reymatos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ypeiserxeste se pio sygkekrimena qemata poy aforoyn th DEH.

KAKALHS: Thn apeleyqerwsh ths energeias afora poy einai synolikh apofash.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H apeleyqerwsh ths energeias einai mia kinhsh, poy eixe kaqysterhsei. Opws gnwrizete, ean den me apata h mnhmh moy apo to 1999 eprepe na eixe proxwrhsei h xwra se ayton ton tomea. Alles eyrwpaikes xwres exoyn proxwrhsei. Ofeiloyme na proxwrhsoyme kai emeis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qelete na mas peite, dhladh, oti aytes oi kontres poy ginontai den einai apotelesma oti kapoia symferonta piezoyn kai thn mia kai thn allh pleyra;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh den piezetai apo symferonta. Ayto poy lew einai jekaqaro: Opoios exei to opoiodhpote stoixeio, ofeilei -den einai paraklhsh to epanalambanw- na to kataqesei ston eisaggelea. To na legontai kapoia pragmata dhmosiws mporei na dhmioyrgei entypwseis. Shmasia exei, ayta poy symbainoyn, efoson symbainoyn, na kataggellontai ston mono armodio poy einai o politikos proistamenos kai h dikaiosynh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Tosoys mhnes giati yparxei ayth h diamaxh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw. Rwthste thn pleyra ths DEH.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poia pleyra;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Rwthste ton k. Palaiokrassa.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Apo ekei dhladh yparxei to problhma.

RABANOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, lete oti oydeis apo thn kybernhsh paizei me symferonta. Pws ajiologei h kybernhsh olh ayth th sygkroysh twn teleytaiwn mhnwn; Den exete katalhjei se kapoio symperasma; Poios eyqynetai; Lete oti den eyqynontai ta symferonta, telika ti yparxei; Exei yperbei ta eskammena o k. Palaiokrassas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kaqenas mporei na krinei.

TSIODRAS: Qelw na rwthsw, meta apo olh ayth th syzhthsh kai osa eginan xqes, ean o k. Palaiokrassas ejakoloyqei na apolambanei ths empistosynhs ths kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei.

Sas eyxaristw.

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