Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-06-13

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Aqhna, 13 Ioynioy 2005

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

Shmera stis 18:30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei sto Megaro Majimoy me ton k. Gerasimo Arsenh, katopin aithmatos toy prwhn Ypoyrgoy.

Ayrio, stis 11:00, sto Megaro Majimoy, qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, qa syzhthqoyn qemata poy aforoyn sto Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn.

Stis 30 Ioynioy, o Prwqypoyrgos qa metabei sto Londino, opoy qa exei synanthsh me ton Bretano Prwqypoyrgo Toni Mpler.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

TSIODRAS: Mia mh anamenomenh erwthsh sxetika me to plaisio ths synanthshs toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Arsenh@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw akribws to plaisio. Pisteyw omws oti exei sxesh me prwtoboylies poy exei analabei o k. Arsenhs se dieqnes epipedo sxetika me kapoia institoyta. Meta th synanthsh o prwhn Ypoyrgos qa probei se dhlwseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ton k. Mpler, zhthse o Prwqypoyrgos na ton dei; Poio einai to antikeimeno ths synanthshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa eimai se qesh na sas anakoinwsw leptomereies argotera.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Entos ths hmeras;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Mporei kai entos ths hmeras.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, gia mia ejelijh sto Kypriako me thn episkech Erntogan stis HPA, opoy epeise ton Geniko Grammatea na prowqhsei thn ekqesh toy, thn persinh, sto Symboylio Asfaleias, dioti mesa se ayth thn ekqesh einai dysmenhs gia thn ellhnokypriakh pleyra, oti ayth einai h aitia toy Kypriakoy. H Kypriakh kybernhsh ekane entones parastaseis sto Geniko Grammatea. Dierwtwmai, h ellhnikh kybernhsh pws antimetwpizei ayth thn ejelijh, h opoia einai para poly dysmenhs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh exei topoqethqei se ayto to qema apo perysi. O Prwqypoyrgos eixe kanei o idios dhlwsh. Ektote, exei kylhsei poly nero sto aylaki. Ekeino to opoio leme einai oti qa prepei na arxisoyn apo thn arxh oi diadikasies. Na syzhthqei apo thn arxh h ypoqesh toy Kypriakoy. To exoyme pei polles fores ayto. Gia thn anaferomenh apo sas energeia toy k. Erntogan kai toy OHE, den qa kanw kapoio sxolio shmera. Den gnwrizw an qa ekdwsei anakoinwsh to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Qa meinw se osa exoyme pei gia thn anagkh ejeyreshs dikaihs kai biwsimhs lyshs sto Kypriako, me ola ayta ta stoixeia ta opoia exoyme anaferei kata kairoys.

BLAXOS: Giati tosh mystikopaqeia sth synanthsh Karamanlh- Paylopoyloy; Yparxei kati sta skaria; Etoimazei kapoio nomoqetiko plaisio gia tis DEKO;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Giati milate gia mystikopaqeia;

BLAXOS: Giati den ekane dhlwsh o k. Paylopoylos, efyge.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den einai h prwth fora. Polloi Ypoyrgoi, meta tis synanthseis toys me ton Prwqypoyrgo, den probainoyn se dhlwseis. Sas exw pei polles fores oti oi synanthseis aytes einai sto plaisio ths kaqhmerinhs doyleias.

BLAXOS: Mporeite na mas peite ti syzhthsan;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Syzhthqhkan qemata ths armodiothtas toy Ypoyrgeioy toy.

BLAXOS: Kati ginetai me tis DEKO, ap` o,ti exw katalabei. H katargoyntai kapoies yphresies@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Mh bgazete symperasmata apo to oti den ekane dhlwsh o k. Paylopoylos. Sas epanalambanw oti den einai h prwth fora poy kapoios Ypoyrgos synantatai me ton Prwqypoyrgo kai den kanei dhlwsh meta to telos ths synanthshs. Einai polla ta trexonta zhthmata ths kaqhmerinothtas gia ta opoia o Prwqypoyrgos enhmerwnetai h oi Ypoyrgoi zhtoyn thn gnwmh toy.

XIWTHS: Einai h prwth fora poy synantwntai o Prwqypoyrgos me ton k. Arsenh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nai.

XIWTHS: H kybernhsh syzhta thn piqanothta na ajiopoihqei o k. Arsenhs, sto mellon, se kapoio kratiko h kybernhtiko ajiwma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Mh dinoyme tetoies diastaseis se mia aplh synanthsh. Pros Qeoy!

GARGALAKOS: Mhpws o k. Arsenhs eixe synanthseis me allon kybernhtiko paragonta, prin, ws proetoimasia ayths ths synanthshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Ta pragmata einai toso apla, opws sas ta eipa. Pro hmerwn, to Grafeio toy Prwqypoyrgoy edexqh thlefwnhma gia ena ranteboy toy prwhn Ypoyrgoy -o k. Arsenhs htan Ypoyrgos epi seiran etwn- me ton Prwqypoyrgo, to opoio qa ginei shmera. To apogeyma o k. Arsenhs qa probei se dhlwseis. Qa ekdoqei kai sxetikh anakoinwsh apo to Grafeio Typoy toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Den blepw tipota to idiaitero se ayth thn ypoqesh.

GARGALAKOS: Mia allh erwthsh: H kybernhsh qa prowqhsei tis diarqrwtikes allages poy exei sxediasei mesa sto kalokairi, oles;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh exei programmatisei na prowqhsei polles diarqrwtikes allages. Oson afora sto ``oles'', den mporei na ginoyn oles, giati einai polles oi diarqrwtikes allages poy qa ginoyn. Oses omws exoyn programmatistei, exoyn sxediastei kai einai etoimes, qa ginoyn. Gia paradeigma h ypoqesh toy OTE exei sxedon oloklhrwqei. Akoloyqoyn alla zhthmata, opws einai ayto toy asfalistikoy twn Trapezwn, h dieyqethsh xronoy, to wrario katasthmatwn. Exoyn hdh anakoinwqei apo ton Prwqypoyrgo.

KAKALHS: Sta qerina tmhmata qa pane ayta h qa einai sthn Olomeleia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ocepote teleiwnei kapoios programmatismos qa perna apo th Boylh.

SARANTAKOS: Na epanelqw ston k.. Arsenh. Fantazomai oti h kybernhsh kai o Prwqypoyrgos den ejairei ton k. Arsenh, epi seira etwn ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn epi kybernhsewn PASOK, apo th synolikh kritikh poy askei h kybernhsh kai o k. Karamanlhs -to eidame kai sth Boylh, allwste- gia thn kakodiaxeirish twn oikonomikwn ths xwras ta teleytaia xronia. Etsi den einai; Kai oyte kaqagiazetai o k. Arsenhs, mpainontas shmera sto Megaro Majimoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den antilambanomai thn erwthsh sas.

SARANTAKOS: Qelw na pw oti mia hmera meta apo th syzhthsh sth Boylh, o k. Karamanlhs blepei enan prwhn ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn twn kybernhsewn toy PASOK. Oi enstaseis gia thn politikh poy akoloyqhse kai o k. Arsenhs ta xronia poy htan ypoyrgos, paramenoyn fantazomai gia thn kybernhsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, ta politika hqh den apagoreyoyn mia synanthsh. Otan ena stelexos enos kommatos -kai malista ena probeblhmeno stelexos, prwhn ypoyrgos epi seira etwn- zhta apo ton Prwqypoyrgo na exei mia synanthsh mazi toy, thn exei. Ta politika hqh exoyn proodeysei para poly apo tis dekaeties ekeines poy oi politikoi den xairetiontoysan metajy toys.

SARANTAKOS: Me sygxwreite, to rwtw ayto, prokeimenoy na to dieykrinisw, giati den einai mia koinwnikh synanthsh. Fantazomai oti einai mia synanthsh politikh gia na ginetai sto Megaro Majimoy, gi` ayto kai to rwtw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nai, alla einai dyo teleiws diaforetika qemata.

SIDERHS: Ti kainoyrgio maqame ayto to trihmero ths syzhthshs sth Boylh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ean parakoloyqhsate th syzhthsh, polla.

SIDERHS: Qa mporoysate na ta kwdikopoihsete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws. Qa sas steilw olo ton tomo.

XIWTHS: Sygxwreste mas ayth thn epimonh gia th synanthsh toy k. Arsenh me ton Prwqypoyrgo, alla antilambaneste oti den@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Antilambanomai to dhmosiografiko endiaferon kai to sebomai. Den yparxei tipota to idiaitero h tipota to diaforetiko apo ola osa sas exw pei mexri twra. Den exw kati epipleon na sas pw.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, moy epitrepete mia parathrhsh gia na antilhfqeite kai to nohma twn erwthsewn mas. Ean den apatwmai, h synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Arsenh anakoinwqhke, xqes, sth 1 meta ta mesanyxta.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H synanthsh anakoinwqhke arga th nyxta, ek paradromhs logw toy gegonotos oti xqes yphrxe pollh doyleia sto Grafeio Typoy kai etsi den estalh nwris h anakoinwsh, opws htan programmatismeno. Opws gnwrizete, ta ranteboy toy Prwqypoyrgoy anakoinwnontai mia hmera prin. Spaniws qa anakoinwqoyn synanthseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy polles hmeres h ebdomades nwritera, ektos ki an prokeitai gia dieqneis epafes. H synanthsh ayth zhthqhke thn perasmenh ebdomada. Programmatisthke thn perasmenh ebdomada kai qa anakoinwnotan xqes to apogeyma, opws eprepe. O xqesinos fortos ergasias sto Grafeio Typoy h kapoioy eidoys paradromh odhghsan sto na mhn anakoinwqei nwris. Otan to antilhfqhka arga th nyxta, protimhsa na sas to anakoinwsw amesws, para shmera to prwi poy qa edeixne kati teleiws ektakto dhmosiografika, opws sigoyra qa moy legate kai qa eixate kai dikio.

XIWTHS: Epimenete oti ayth h synanthsh den syndeetai me piqanothta mellontikhs synergasias toy k. Arsenh me thn kybernhsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa poios einai o logos ths synanthshs. Apo ekei kai pera, den exw na sas pw tipote allo.

TSIODRAS: Eixate pei oti den syndeetai to ena me to allo, otan eixate rwthqei se sxesh me to endexomeno anasxhmatismoy kai thn chfo empistosynhs poy qa elambane h kybernhsh. Qa hqela na jerw ean ayth h dhlwsh ``oti den syndeetai'' isxyei kai pws einai dynaton na mhn syndeetai otan pairnei chfo mia kybernhsh kai pws mporei meta na mhn syndeetai ayto me to endexomeno anasxhmatismoy. Lew, giati mia kybernhsh poy exei thn empistosynh ths Boylhs, logika den anasxhmatizetai.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ypo ayth thn ennoia, den qa eprepe pote na ginontai anasxhmatismoi. Wstoso, sas exw pei toses polles fores ta idia kai ta idia gia ton anasxhmatismo, opote qa epimeinw kai qa meinw sta osa sas exw pei.

BLAXOS: Ekloges qa ginoyn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apanthse, xqes, o Prwqypoyrgos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Rwtw gia ton k. Arsenh. Mhpws enocei anasxhmatismoy ginetai h synanthsh me ton k. Arsenh; Mhpws xrhsimopoihqei poyqena;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

BLAXOS: Pantws kyrie Ekproswpe, ofeilete na anagnwrisete oti eyqyneste kai eseis gi` ayto to mysthrio, etsi; Giati meta apo mia ebdomada anakoinwnetai 01:00 meta ta mesanyxta, me sygxwreite alla dhmioyrgeitai ena problhma.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Tapeina, to eipa prohgoymenws.

BLAXOS: Ara mhn aporeite gia to endiaferon. Kai eiste kai ypeyqynos, kiolas.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den aporhsa. Isa-isa, eipa to antiqeto. Sas eipa oti dhmosiografika kai egw qa eixa endiaferon.

XONDROS: Giati o Prwqypoyrgos den apanthse -kai me apotelesma na dhmioyrgoyntai para polla sxolia- sto erwthma toy k. Papandreoy, an h kybernhsh epibalei neoys foroys ton Noembrio h ton Aprilio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exoyn apanthqei hdh ayta ta erwthmata. O k. Papandreoy prospaqhse pros xarin entypwsiasmoy na ypobalei kapoia tetoioy eidoys erwthmata. Ena komma to opoio epebale panw apo 85 foroys mesa se mia dekaetia, einai to teleytaio poy qa edikaioyto na erwta tetoioy eidoys qemata.

GKOYTZANHS: Emeis poy toys exoyme ypostei, oloys aytoys toys foroys, dikaioymaste na erwtoyme kyrie Ekproswpe;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws. Exete hdh labei apanthsh apo ton Ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn.

GKOYTZANHS: Den exoyme parei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exoyn lhfqei ta metra ekeina ta opoia qa odhghsoyn sto telos ths dietias sthn epilysh toy problhmatos toy elleimmatos, to opoio eftase se dysqewrhta ych me tis politikes toy PASOK.

SIDERHS: Mhpws jerete o k. Regkoyzas giati den topoqethqhke sth Boylh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den milhsan oloi oi boyleytes kai Ypoyrgoi. Milhsan kapoioi boyleytes kai kapoioi Ypoyrgoi. Ki egw den topoqethqhka, den me rwtate omws giati.

DHMOSIOGRAFOI: Giati;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Etsi.

KAKALHS: Mhpws h kybernhsh metafrazei thn chfo empistosynhs twn neodhmokratwn boyleytwn se chfo empistosynhs ths ellhnikhs koinwnias, apo th stigmh poy polles apo tis diarqrwtikes allages den htan kan sto programma ths Neas Dhmokratias kai epishs polles apo ta gkalop poy kai eseis epikaleiste den tygxanoyn ths empistosynhs ths (den akoygetai) ths koinhs gnwmhs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kat` arxas, den epikaloymai egw tis dhmoskophseis. Synhqws tis epikaleiste eseis gia na moy kanete erwthseis.

KAKALHS: Thn perasmenh ebdomada ta eixate epikalestei kat` ejairesh gia tis diarqrwtikes allages.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora stis dhmoskophseis, mias kai tis anaferate: Se pososto 70%-75% oi Ellhnes polites taxqhkan yper aytwn twn diarqrwtikwn allagwn -opws qa exete diapistwsei- kai eidika ston OTE poy htan gnwsto. Htan de kai endiaferon oti dhmosieythke dhmoskophsh -blepw ton k. Sarantako na etoimazetai na rwthsei afoy h efhmerida sthn opoia ergazetai dhmosieyse ayth th dhmoskophsh- gia ta stelexh toy PASOK, opoy to 55% htan yper twn diarqrwtikwn allagwn. Sto deytero skelos ths erwthsh sas anaferate oti den eixame milhsei gia aytes: Eixame milhsei kai sto programma mas, eixe milhsei kai se oles tis proeklogikes omilies toy o k. Karamanlhs, oxi mono sto trimhno ths proeklogikhs periodoy, alla kai poly palaiotera. Oi diarqrwtikes allages einai ennoia, oros, politikh apofash, strathgikh, h opoia exei teqei ta teleytaia xronia apo th Nea Dhmokratia. Sxedon se kaqe omilia toy o Proedros ths Neas Dhmokratias kai nyn Prwqypoyrgos tis epanalambane.

KAKALHS: Eixate pei kati proeklogika gia thn arsh ths monimothtas, estw gia toys neoeiserxomenoys; Eixate pei tipota gia thn ayjhsh twn oriwn hlikias; Eixate pei tipota gia th meiwsh twn yperwriwn, ara kai th meiwsh toy ergatikoy kostoys; Pote ta eipate ola ayta;

ROYSOPOYLOS: An anazhthsete tis omilies toy Kwsta Karamanlh kai tis synenteyjeis toy, qa diapistwsete oti otan ton rwtoysan oi dhmosiografoi ti ennoei ``diarqrwtikes allages'' eixe dwsei sygkekrimena paradeigmata.

XONDROS: Ayth th stigmh yparxoyn se ejelijh kapoies apergiakes kinhtopoihseis ergazomenwn stis Trapezes k.lp. Xqes, o Prwqypoyrgos apo to bhma ths Boylhs kalese ton Proedro toy PASOK na mhn ypokinei apergiakes kinhtopoihseis. Na ypoqesoyme oti h prwth grammh amynas enantia stis kinhtopoihseis aytes einai na pei oti einai ypokinoymenes apo to PASOK, to KKE h apo to synolo ths antipoliteyshs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exete kanei dyo staqmoys sth skech sas: Ti eipe o Prwqypoyrgos kai pate na ypoqesete kati. Yparxei, omws kai enas tritos staqmos poy prohghqhke aytwn twn dyo poy anaferate: To ti eipe o k. Papandreoy sth Boylh. O k. Papandreoy, sth Boylh, oysiastika emfanisthke o idios na einai etoimos na ypokinhsei apergies. O Prwqypoyrgos ton erwthse ean ypokinei apergies, ean to syndikalistiko kinhma einai akhdemoneyto h khdemoneyetai k.o.k. Ara, loipon, to erwthma anaferetai ston k. Papandreoy kai sta osa eipe kai oxi se ayta poy apanthse o Prwqypoyrgos.

XONDROS: Eseis qewreite tis apergies, poy einai se ejelijh, ypokinoymenes, kaqodhgoymenes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa kanw tetoio sxolio. To mono sxolio poy ekane o Prwqypoyrgos -kai epanelaba shmera edw- einai oti otan o Arxhgos ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs apo toy bhmatos ths Boylhs emfanizetai na einai etoimos na ypokinhsei aytos kommatika apergies, ayto apo mono toy einai mia poly sobarh politikh ypoqesh, mia politikh apokalych. Aytoapokalych gia ton k. Papandreoy. Kataggelia gia ton k. Karamanlh.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qewreite oti ta syndikata, poy ayth thn wra briskontai se apergiakes kinhtopoihseis, oi dioikhseis toys ypokinoyntai apo to PASOK;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa apanthsw sto erwthma.

BLAXOS: Xqes, akoysame ton Prwqypoyrgo na leei ston Arxhgo ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs ``arghses Giwrgo''. Ti ton anhsyxhse ton k. Karamanlh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den nomizw na anhsyxhse kati ton Prwqypoyrgo. Mhpws epeidh o k. Papandreoy, synhqws, mpainei meta thn enarjh ths omilias toy Prwqypoyrgoy, enw kati tetoio den ekane pote o k. Karamanlhs me ton k. Shmith; Endexomenws na anaferotan se ayto.

BLAXOS: O k. Karamanlhs exei toso megalh oikeiothta me ton k. Papandreoy kai ton apokalei Giwrgo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Entassetai kai ayto sta politika hqh sta opoia anaferqhka prohgoymenws.

BLAXOS: Ypociazomai, dhladh, oti ayto entassetai se mia diadikasia synennohshs poy exoyn profanws oi dyo andres.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Aman, aytes oi ypocies sas k. Blaxo. Mexri poy ftanoyn;

BLAXOS: Miloyn kai metajy toys, gia na exei tetoia oikeiothta o Prwqypoyrgos me ton Arxhgo ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ontws miloyn metajy toys, o Arxhgos ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs me ton Prwqypoyrgo. An synanthqoyn sto diadromo ths Boylhs antallassoyn xeiracia kai synomiloyn se dhmosies ekdhlwseis.

BLAXOS: Thlefwnoyntai, kiolas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den exoyn thlefwnhqei mexri stigmhs.

BLAXOS: Den exoyn thlefwnhqei mexri stigmhs, pote;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Sto prosfato parelqon sigoyra oxi.

BLAXOS: Otan lete prosfato, poso prosfato prin apo mia ebdomada;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oktw, deka xronia. Den qymamai.

BLAXOS: Pantws, apo o,ti blepw den eiste sigoyros;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den eimai.

SARANTAKOS: Shmera o k. Nikhtas Kaklamanhs se synenteyjh toy sto kratiko radiofwno eipe oti exei plhrofories pws qa yparjei amesa, eipe epi lejei ``lysh gia thn Olympiakh'' kai h opoia, opws eipe, qa einai qetikh lysh gia thn etaireia. Ti eidoys plhrofories einai aytes, ean tis exete ki eseis ws Ypoyrgos ths kybernhshs armodios gia thn epikoinwnia kai pote perimenete lysh sto qema;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Otan yparjei kati, qa anakoinwqei epishmws apo ton armodio Ypoyrgo.

SARANTAKOS: Yparxei kati se ejelijh, yparxei fws;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O armodios Ypoyrgos k. Mixalhs Liaphs exei anakoinwsei polles fores oti exoyme proxwrhsei sto diagwnismo. O prohgoymenos diagwnismos eixe khryxqei agonos. Ginetai mia poly megalh prospaqeia, prokeimenoy na ejeyreqei lysh se ena apo ta shmantikotera problhmata twn DEKO poy mas klhronomhse h prohgoymenh diakybernhsh toy PASOK.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, sto ``PARON'' anaferetai oti exei hdh pwlhqei se jenh etaireia h Olympiakh. Den jerw an to gnwrizete.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den yparxei kati tetoio.

XONDROS: Sxetika me to Asfalistiko twn Trapezwn: Pote qa ferete th nomoqetikh ryqmish sth Boylh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas exw pei oti qa ekdoqei sxetikh anakoinwsh. Syntoma pantws.

XONDROS: Entos ths ebdomadas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Syntoma.

Sas eyxaristw.

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