Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-02-23

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 23 Febroyarioy 2005

JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ston agwna ths kata ths diaplokhs pantiera eixate to nomo gia to basiko metoxo kai htan oloi mazi sas, ektos apo toys endiaferomenoys kai emplekomenoys. To problhma einai oi xeirismoi. O k. Paylopoylos, kata thn paroysiash toy nomoy sto Zappeio, eipe pws to Syntagma yperexei toy Koinotikoy Dikaioy. Tote, giati phge xqes oikeioqelws kai edwse ejhghseis kai giati se 15 hmeres mh oikeioqelws, alla graptws, qa janadwsei ejhghseis kai den leei stoys Eyrwpaioys to poly aplo ``kyrioi, mhn asxoleiste, mhn emplekeste, den sas peftei logos, to Syntagma mas yperexei toy dikaioy sas''.

ANTWNAROS: Einai epiteloys kairos na stamathsei ayth h prwtofanhs prospaqeia diastreblwshs ths pragmatikothtas. Kai ayto to lew, dioti molis twra eipwqhke gia mia akomh fora, peri 15nqhmeroy, dhqen epistrofh stis Bryjelles ki alla paremferh. Ayta den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. H ellhnikh kybernhsh, opws eipa kai xqes kai proxqes, me dikh ths apofash anelabe thn prwtoboylia na kanei kati poy oi prohgoymenes kybernhseis, oyte kan eixan dianohqei na kanoyn. Na paei, dhladh, kai na enhmerwsei apo konta gia to nomo poy perase prosfata apo th Boylh. Ayto ki egine kai ta apotelesmata einai qetika.

SIDERHS: An moy epitrepete na epimeinw ligo. Giati den toys lene to Syntagma mas yperexei toy dikaioy sas kai den sas peftei logos;

ANTWNAROS: Eimaste apolyta sigoyroi -edw kai para polles ebdomades to leme- oti o nomos einai symfwnos me to Syntagma kai symbatos me to Koinotiko Dikaio. H Ellada synomilei me toys Eyrwpaioys etairoys ths.

GKOYTZANHS: Qa ypoballei thn epixeirhmatologia ths kai graptws h kybernhsh h oxi;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei qema na stalei allh kainoyrgia epistolh, th stigmh poy h prwth epistolh, h opoia efqase prin apo mia ebdomada, den exei kala-kala diabastei. Ola ayta einai parafilologia.

GKOYTZANHS: Ara, den qa ypoblhqei graptws h epixeirhmatologia.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

GKOYTZANHS: O k. Schaub dexqhke thn epixeirhmatologia twn triwn melwn ths kybernhshs oti to ellhniko Syntagma yperexei toy Eyrwpaikoy;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na ypeiselqw se leptomereies ths syzhthshs. Osoi endiaferontai kai anypomonoyn, den exoyn para na perimenoyn thn apanthsh twn koinotikwn yphresiwn. H ellhnikh kybernhsh den exei kamia anypomonhsia.

GKOYTZANHS: Giati phre ayth thn prwtoboylia h ellhnikh kybernhsh; Mas eipate oti phre mia prwtoboylia, opws den ekanan pote oi kybernhseis toy PASOK k.t.l. To akoysame ayto. Giati thn phre; Poios htan o stoxos;

ANTWNAROS: Giati, opws sas eipa, h ellhnikh kybernhsh synomilei me toys etairoys ths.

GKOYTZANHS: Kai gia alla qemata yparxoyn@

ANTWNAROS: Kai gia polla alla qemata synomilei mazi toys.

TSIODRAS: Eseis epimenete oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh exei dikio, wstoso sth syzhthsh poy egine xqes brady sto eyrwkoinoboylio apo thn pleyra ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs eipwqhke oti to koinotiko dikaio yperisxyei toy ellhnikoy Syntagmatos.

ANTWNAROS: Poios to eipe;

TSIODRAS: Nomizw o Irlandos Epitropos, apantwntas se erwthsh poy kateqesan oi boyleytes toy PASOK.

ANTWNAROS: Den einai etsi opws moy to metaferete. Parola tayta, sas epanalambanw thn pepoiqhsh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Epeidh pollh katastrofologia diakineitai tis teleytaies ebdomades, ekeino poy metraei einai oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh proxwrei me staqera bhmata, kanei osa exei anakoinwsei oti qa kanei kai pragmatopoiei toys stoxoys ths. Ayto einai poy metraei gia toys ellhnes polites poy chfizoyn sthn Ellada, kai sth megalh toys pleiochfia yposthrizoyn metra gia tis thn ejasfalish ths diafaneias kai epityxies kata ths diaplokhs.

TSIODRAS: Nai, alla oi Ellhnes polites perimenoyn na mhn yparxoyn problhmata kai stis sxeseis mas me thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh th stigmh malista poy, opws anaferoyn plhrofories, yparxei kindynos diakophs xrhmatodothsewn se seira ergwn sthn Ellada.

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei kanenas tetoios kindynos. Ayta einai dhmosiografika efeyrhmata.

MIXAHL: Qelw na sas rwthsw ean diaceydete dhlwseis, poy yparxoyn shmera se reportaz synadelfwn apo tis Bryjeles, ekproswpwn ths Epitrophs oi opoioi dinoyn diaforetikh eikona apo ayth poy mas dinete eseis, legontas gia paradeigma oti ``kapoia shmeia mas ta ejhghsane alla kai kapoia alla perimenoyme na mas ta ejhghsoyn to epomeno diasthma''. Tis diaceydete;

ANTWNAROS: Sthn pragmatikothta antapokrinontai osa sas eipa molis egw.

MIXAHL: Epeidh ayqenties den yparxoyn sth zwh kai h zwh h idia apodeiknyei. Sas akoyw poly kathgorhmatiko. Dikaiwma sas. To erwthma einai ean h antiqeth h h apoklinoysa ekdoxh poy dinoyn ajiwmatoyxoi kai ekproswpoi ths Epitrophs einai gia sas basimh h oxi.

ANTWNAROS: Bash exoyn osa sas lew egw edw epwnyma. Anwnymoi, oi opoioi dhqen eipan diafora pragmata, qa prepei na bgoyn kai epwnyma na poyn ayta poy dhqen exoyn na poyn. Den gnwrizw kanenan poy na eipe tipota epwnyma.

MIXAHL: O armodios Irlandos Epitropos xqes sto Eyrwkoinoboylio edwse mia teleiws diaforetikh ekdoxh apo ayth poy dinete eseis. Sygkekrimena eipe oti ``gnwrizoyme to nomo, gnwrizoyme tis enstaseis poy akoygontai gnwrizoyme kai ti syzhthsh exei proklhqei. To meletoyme kai ara den xreiazotan h prwtoboylia gia na toys ejhghsoyme ti einai''.

ANTWNAROS: Den eipwqhkan opws ta apodidete.

MIXAHL: Einai apodidomena entos eisagwgikwn. Doyleia sas einai na diaceydete ki emas doyleia mas einai na rwtame. Dikaiwma sas na apantate opws qelete kai me opoia kathgorhmatikothta qelete. Den hrqame edw na antidikhsoyme. Ayta poy sas eipa einai entos eisagwgikwn. Ta diaceydete;

ANTWNAROS: Ayta poy lete den einai entos eisagwgikwn.

MIXAHL: Qa sas ferw ayrio entos eisagwgikwn thn apanthsh kai qa sas zhthsw na moy apanthsete.

ANTWNAROS: Entajei.

ROYMELIWTHS: Mia dieykrinish, epeidh exoyme ligo mperdeytei. Telika, oi ekproswpoi mas dexqhkan systaseis h parathrhseis epi toy nomoy gia to basiko metoxo;

ANTWNAROS: Ti ennoeite;

ROYMELIWTHS: Dhladh, sth synanthsh toys, toys diatypwqhkan systaseis h kapoies parathrhseis gia basika shmeia aytoy toy nomoy;

ANTWNAROS: Ean ennoeite systaseis gia allages sto nomo, h apanthsh einai kathgorhmatika oxi.

ROYMELIWTHS: Beltiwtikes kinhseis;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi.

LEONTITSH: O Eyrwboyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Dhmhtrakopoylos, poy ws gnwston, palaiotera, eixe ekfrasei tis epifylajeis toy, kata poso o nomos aytos synadei me to Eyrwpaiko Dikaio, shmera se dhlwseis toy sto radiofwno toy ALPHA, eipe oti h epidiwjh toy den htan pote na dikaiwqei enanti allwn kai oti oi ejelijeis milane apo mones toys. Pws sxoliazete ayth thn topoqethsh;

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw th sygkekrimenh dhlwsh. Den parakoloyqw oles tis dhlwseis. Den exw tipota na sxoliasw.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Se ayto poy rwthse o synadelfos, eipate oti den eginan systaseis h parathrhseis. Dhladh, yphrxe enas monologos twn triwn Ypoyrgwn kai oi etairoi den eipan tipota, aplws akoygan;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn ola osa sas eipa. Den exw na prosqesw tipota sxetika me th syzhthsh poy egine stis Bryjelles.

TSIODRAS: Milhsate prin, apantwntas se erwthsh moy, gia dhmosiografika efeyrhmata sto endexomeno epibolhs kyrwsewn se baros ths Elladas. Jeroyme oti exoyn ginei prosfyges kata toy nomoy sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, apo anqrwpoys poy exoyn ennomo symferon, apo etairies kai jenes etairies malista, opws lene oi plhrofories. Se periptwsh poy fanei oti o nomos den einai symbatos me to Koinotiko Dikaio, giati eseis mas kanete aytes tis diabebaiwseis, alla qa perimenoyme kai thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh na doyme ti qa pei@

ANTWNAROS: Den sas eipa na perimenete; Osoi endiaferontai kai anypomonoyn, as perimenoyn thn apanthsh twn koinotikwn armodiwn.

TSIODRAS: Se ayth thn periptwsh, den yparxei kindynos diakophs xrhmatodothsewn;

ANTWNAROS: Ayto einai symperasma sto opoio katalhgete eseis. Egw den gnwrizw kamia prosfygh. Eimai Ekproswpos ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai oxi ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs. Epeidh den hsaste xqes sthn aiqoysa ayth, kyrie Tsiodra, moy eteqh to idio erwthma kai apanthsa me ton idio akribws tropo. H xqesinh moy apanthsh isxyei sto akeraio.

MIXAHL: Qewrei o Prwqypoyrgos oti yphrje eynoia ths prohgoymenhs kybernhshs, me xarakthra skandaloy, otan dexotan na enswmatwqei to Tameio Asfalismenwn ths Ionikhs Trapezas sto IKA kai shmera dinei entolh na jananoixqei o fakelos kai na ejetastei apo thn arxh h olh ypoqesh;

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw to qema. Einai eidiko. Qa moy epitrecete na enhmerwqw kai na sas apanthsw ayrio.

Sas eyxaristw.

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