Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-02-21

Greek Government Press Briefings in ASCII Greek Directory - Previous Article - Next Article

From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 21 Febroyarioy 2005

TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

O Prwqypoyrgos anaxwrei shmera to apogeyma gia tis Bryjelles, opoy ayrio qa symmetasxei sthn Eidikh Synodo Koryfhs toy NATO kai ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. O Prwqypoyrgos, kata thn apogeymatinh synanthsh twn arxhgwn kratwn kai kybernhsewn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs me ton Proedro twn HPA Tzwrtz Mpoys, qa kanei parembash gia thn katastash sta Balkania kai tis prooptikes poy dianoigontai.

Thn Tetarth 23 Febroyarioy, stis 11:00, o Prwqypoyrgos qa proedreysei ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs.

DHMOSIOGRAFOI: Me ti qema;

ANTWNAROS: Qa sas enhmerwsw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Yparxoyn programmatismena ranteboy toy Prwqypoyrgoy me kapoioys arxhgoys kratwn h an exei zhthsei o Prwqypoyrgos synanthseis me arxhgoys kratwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs h me ton idio ton k. Mpoys h me ton k. Erntogan;

ANTWNAROS: To programma einai poly sfikto kai den afhnei polla periqwria gia epimeroys synanthseis. Epeidh yparxoyn polles diadoxikes synedriaseis, an pragmatopoihqoyn tetoies epimeroys synanthseis, qa ginoyn, opws synhqizetai allwste, sto periqwrio h kata th diarkeia twn synedriasewn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Me ton k. Erntogan qa yparjei synanthsh;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na sas pw tipote allo.

MIXAHL: To Sabbato to meshmeri, h Ierarxia apofasise kapoia sygkekrimena metra gia thn antimetwpish ths katastashs poy exei proklhqei sto xwro ths Ekklhsias. H kybernhsh einai ikanopoihmenh apo ayta ta metra;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh epikrotei opoia metra lambanontai pros thn kateyqynsh ths kaqarshs kai thn katapolemhsh dysarestwn fainomenwn stoys kolpoys ths Ekklhsias.

MIXAHL: Symfwna me thn parotrynsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, ayta ta metra mporoyn na dieyqethsoyn ola ayta ta opoia ton teleytaio kairo blepoyme;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

MIXAHL: Pws krinei h kybernhsh to gegonos oti o Ekproswpos ths Arxiepiskophs feretai na eixe, opws grafetai shmera sta reportaz, ekane mia apopeira, telos pantwn, kapoio hxografhmeno yliko na to promhqeytei;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kanena sxolio. Allwste, ayto to qema afora eswterikh ypoqesh ths Ekklhsias.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Sto plaisio twn synanthsewn poy qa ginoyn sto periqwrio ths Synodoy Koryfhs toy NATO, qa yparjei kapoia eidikh mneia gia thn poreia twn syzhthsewn me ta Skopia gia to onoma;

ANTWNAROS: Opws sas eipa, o Prwqypoyrgos qa kanei parembash gia ta balkanika qemata. Kai to qema twn Skopiwn anagetai se ayta ta qemata. Alla o Prwqypoyrgos qa milhsei genika gia thn katastash sth sygkekrimenh perioxh.

SIDERHS: Exw dyo erwthseis. H mia afora to Patriarxeio Ierosolymwn. H kybernhsh, to ellhniko kratos, ap` o,ti jeroyme, xrhmatodotei to Patriarxeio ayto. Exei epopteia gia tis dosolhcies, gia th drash toy Patriarxeioy; Exoyn emfanistei kai twra me thn prosfath anataraxh, alla kai sto parelqon, dhmosieymata poy feroyn to Patriarxeio na katexei th mish Palaistinh kai na th dinei, gia pentarodekares, stoys Israhlinoys. Malista, kapote oi ekproswpoi twn Xristianwn Palaistiniwn eixan pei, se mia ekpomph toy k. Papaxela, prin apo ena @ enamish xrono, oti qa apeyqynqoyn sto ellhniko kratos kai qa zhthsoyn apozhmiwsh h xwro edw gia na katoikhsoyn, epeidh toys apwqei to Patriarxeio me th symperifora toy, dinontas ola ta kthmata stoys Israhlinoys. Exei kapoia epopteia@;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio gia qemata poy aforoyn sto Patriarxeio Ierosolymwn.

SIDERHS: H deyterh erwthsh moy afora enan enhmerwtiko radiostaqmo toy opoioy, shmera, oi ergazomenoi apergoyn, epeidh o neos idiokthths den exei na toys plhrwsei. Profanws, gia na jefygei kapoios th ``dagkana'' toy nomoy gia to basiko metoxo metabibase se enan poy den eixe thn armozoysa oikonomikh epifaneia, me skopo na mporei na pairnei@

ANTWNAROS: Den mporw na ypeiselqw sto idiokthsiako kaqestws kanenos radiofwnikoy staqmoy, kanenos Mesoy Enhmerwshs. Den xwra kamia amfibolia, omws, oti oi ergazomenoi exoyn to dikaiwma na apaitoyn ta dedoyleymena toys.

SIDERHS: An to kanei gia na apofygei thn ``pagida'' toy nomoy sas gia to basiko metoxo;

ANTWNAROS: Mhn katafeygete se ayqaireta symperasmata. O nomos einai gia na threitai kai na ejasfalizei th diafaneia.

SIDERHS: Den ta ebala me to nomo.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

IWANNOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs sthn protash toy k. Tegopoyloy, thn opoia shmera sxoliazoyn arketoi boyleytes kai kapoioi, malista, symfwnoyn me aythn na orkistei o neos Proedros ths Dhmokratias k. Papoylias sthn Proedro ths Boylhs k. Mpenakh kai oxi ston Arxiepiskopo;

ANTWNAROS: Den yfistatai tetoio qema. Ejakoloyqei na isxyei o,ti isxye.

PEPONHS: Briskontai shmera stis Bryjelles o k. Roysopoylos kai o k. Paylopoylos, prokeimenoy na dwsoyn ejhghseis gia to basiko metoxo;

ANTWNAROS: Me prwtoboylia ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs qa pragmatopoihqei, ayrio stis 8 to prwi, stis Bryjelles synanthsh twn Ypoyrgwn k. Roysopoyloy, Paylopoyloy kai Fwlia me to Geniko Dieyqynth ths armodias yphresias ths Epitrophs Eswterikhs Agoras k. Schaub. En antiqesei me o,ti ekane to PASOK, h shmerinh kybernhsh analambanei thn prwtoboylia na enhmerwsei dia zwshs kai apo konta tis armodies yphresies ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs gia ta basika shmeia kai th filosofia toy nomoy, o opoios chfisthke apo th Boylh. Allwste, h kybernhsh exei aposteilei hdh thn apanthtikh epistolh, dieykrinizontas qemata poy eixan egeirei oi yphresies ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, sxetika me to arqro 14 toy Syntagmatos kai ton prohgoymeno sxetiko nomo toy PASOK. H ellhnikh kybernhsh, gia mia akomh fora, ypogrammizei @kai qa to epanalaboyn kai oi Ypoyrgoi ayrio sth syzhthsh poy qa exoyn- thn pepoiqhsh pws oi ryqmiseis kai symfwnes me to Syntagma einai kai symbates me to Koinotiko Dikaio.

MIXAHL: Gnwrizei h kybernhsh apo tis armodies yphresies ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs ean exei katateqei prosfygh gia thn akyrwsh toy nomoy se eyrwpaika organa; Mhpws exei ginei ayto apo th megalh kataskeyastikh gallikh etaireia Mpoyik, h opoia exei dyo megaloys gallikhs embeleias staqmoys sthn idiokthsia ths kai metexei sthn Koinoprajia gia to METRO Qessalonikhs poy ejhggeile prin apo liges hmeres o k. Soyflias;

ANTWNAROS: Oi ellhnikoi nomoi isxyoyn gia oloys sthn epikrateia ths Ellhnikhs Dhmokratias.

MIXAHL: Mhpws aytoi exoyn kanei prosfygh; Gi` ayto rwtaw.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Qelw na kanw mia erwthsh, sxetika me tis ekloges sthn Portogalia. Anhsyxei thn kybernhsh, diabasa kai profanws einai kai ektimhsh stelexwn toy PASOK, oti logw ths apografhs lene ekeinoi to komma toy opoioy hgeito o k. Mparozo exase tis ekloges, gi` ayto prepei na erqoyn mhnymata sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh poy lene oti qa plhrwsei thn politikh ths apografhs. Fysika to ena komma einai sosialdhmokratiko, dhladh to PASOK toy k. Shmith kai to allo einai sosialistiko, to PASOK toy Andrea, alla den exei shmasia ayto. Anhsyxei thn ellhnikh kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Opws jerete sthn Ellada chfizoyn Ellhnes kai oxi Portogaloi.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Nai, alla aplws lew oti exei ginei megalo qema pantws.

SIDERHS: Epitrepete; Shmeiologikh antistoixia briskete;

ANTWNAROS: Anaforika me to PASOK qa sas pw oti o ``peinasmenos karbelia oneireyetai''.

SIDERHS: Shmeiologikh antistoixia briskete, giati kai ekeinoi ekanan apografh kai phran twn omatiwn toys;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

XONDROS: Ep` aytoy. Sas problhmatise to gegonos oti kanena apo ta adelfa kommata ths Neas Dhmokratias den katafere na meinei sthn ejoysia panw apo tessera xronia sthn Eyrwph;

ANTWNAROS: Nomizw oti katafeygete se genikologies poy den antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta.

XONDROS: Oxi, me aformh tis ekloges sthn Portogalia. Otan dyo adelfa kommata, ennow kentrodejia.

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na anaferqw sta eswterika allwn xwrwn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Shmera, blepei to fws ths dhmosiothtas kai allh mia ypoqesh me prwtagwnisth ierarxh, to gnwsto Pantelehmona Mpezenith, gia mia ypoqesh toy, poy symfwna me to reportaz ths efhmeridas ``APOGEYMATINH'' diathrei mia etaireia off-shore sthn Karaibikh kai malista sta Parqena Nhsia. Ektos aytoy, diathrei kai 18 trapezikoys logariasmoys sto onoma toy se ellhnikes trapezes. Qewrei h kybernhsh oti kai ayto einai eswteriko zhthma ths Ekklhsias h h kaqarsh emeine sta misa toy dromoy;

ANTWNAROS: Gia to qema ths Ekklhsias, sas apanthsa. Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo.

PALAIOLOGOS: Oyte gia to qema toy Pantelehmona;

ANTWNAROS: To na diathrei kapoios 18 h kai perissoteroys logariasmoys den einai ayto kaqayto poiniko adikhma. Exei sxesh, omws, me thn hqikh symperifora, thn opoia prepei na exei enas ierarxhs. Prokeitai, synepws, gia ena eswteriko qema ths Ekklhsias, to opoio sth sygkekrimenh toy morfh to xeiristhke prin apo liges meres h Iera Synodos ths Ekklhsias ths Elladas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Dhladh, pisteyete oti ikanopoiei to peri dikaioy aisqhma olh ayth h istoria poy elabe xwra to Sabbatokyriako sthn Iera Synodo;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: To oti exei prosfygei h gallikh etaireia sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio gia to basiko metoxo, problhmatizei thn kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. H kybernhsh exei thn apolyth pepoiqhsh oti o nomos einai symfwnos me to Syntagma kai symbatos me to Koinotiko Dikaio.

PAPAGIANNHS: Mas exete pei oti den tiqetai qema anasxhmatismoy. Xqes, omws, o Ypoyrgos Epikrateias, sto ``BHMA THS KYRIAKHS'', eipe ``tiqetai qema anasxhmatismoy'', xwris bebaiws na ton prosdiorizei xronika.

ANTWNAROS: Epeidh eimai pronohtikos, efera mazi moy th synenteyjh toy. O k. Roysopoylos leei, loipon, epi lejei: ``Akomh ki an probei, loipon, kapoia stigmh se diorqwtikes kinhseis, ayto, opws egw exw katalabei ton Kwsta Karamanlh, qa ginei gia logoys politikhs oysias kai oxi se epipedo aploy entypwsiasmoy, opws synebh me polloys anasxhmatismoys twn kybernhsewn PASOK. To pote, den jerw. Ayto to jerei mono o Prwqypoyrgos''. Se dieykrinistikh erwthsh, prosqetei: ``Ekproswpw ton Prwqypoyrgo sto na metaferw thn politikh ths kybernhshs. En prokeimenw, moy zhtate na pw to aytonohto. Oti kati to opoio dokimazetai sto xrono, beltiwnetai kai otan to apofasisei o Prwqypoyrgos, tropopoieitai''.

PAPAGIANNHS: Ara, qa ginei anasxhmatismos.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei h dhlwsh toy k. Roysopoyloy.

PALAIOLOGOS: To teleytaio diasthma parathroyntai orismenes ypogeies kinhseis. Gia paradeigma, kapoia geymata, opws ayto poy pareqese o k. Sioyfas se 18 boyleytes, o antiproedros, opws toylaxiston ton exrisan oi efhmerides. Kapoia alla geymata twn loxagwn poy mallon deixnoyn na kinoyntai pros epanasystash ths palai pote omadas toys kai kapoia geymata boyleytwn metajy toys. Ola ayta, den proanaggelloyn anasxhmatismo h mallon den prodikazoyn oti kati den paei kala sthn kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Den proanaggelloyn apolytws tipota. Oi synanthseis metajy kybernhtikwn kai kommatikwn stelexwn kai boyleytwn einai synhqeis. Ginontai poly syxna. H sygkekrimenh synanthsh poy eixe o k. Sioyfas htan me boyleytes oi opoioi metexoyn se Koinoboyleytikh Epitroph poy asxoleitai me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy poy hgeitai o k. Sioyfas. Aytes oi synanthseis einai fysiko na ginontai kai qa ejakoloyqhsoyn na ginontai. Den shmatodotoyn tipota.

GKOYTZANHS: Gia to qema ths Ekklhsias kai ton Mhtropolith me thn off-shore. Poy briskoyn ayta ta terastia posa oi Ierarxes einai qema toy ellhnikoy kratoys h oxi;

ANTWNAROS: Osa qemata exoyn sxesh me th dikaiosynh, antimetwpizontai apo tis armodies Arxes ths Politeias. Ginontai ereynes, oi opoies otan briskontai se ejelijh den sxoliazontai kai poly perissotero den sxoliazontai apo ton Kybernhtiko Ekproswpo.

MIXAHL: Poio tis kanei;

ANTWNAROS: Oi Arxes ths Politeias.

SIDERHS: Exw mia aporia. O prokaqhmenos ths Ekklhsias, proxqes, sas kathggeile oti deixnete adhmonia. Eseis, apo o,ti qymamai, otan sas eixame zhthsei na mas peite ean eiste eyxaristhmenos me thn kaqarsh, eixate pei oti exoyn perasei 72 wres, yponowntas oti einai poly syntomo ayto to xroniko diasthma gia na ekferete apoch kai na deite ta opoia apta apotelesmata. O prokaqhmenos, loipon, sas ermhneyse entelws diaforetika, ek diametroy antiqeta kai sas apedwse ayta poy eseis den legate. Ekeino poy me entypwsiazei einai oti den eipate to poly aplo, oti o k. Xristodoylos den katalabe kala. Ftanei ws ekei h epirroh twn papadwn, wste na mhn yperaspisete ton eayto sas;

ANTWNAROS: Qa moy epitrecete ton tropo me ton opoio topoqetoymai @kai eidika otan yparxei kapoio qema, to opoio qa mporoyse na qewrhqei proswpiko- na ton epilegw egw. Qa hqela, loipon, na sas pw oti profanws ston Arxiepiskopo eftasan parapoihmena apospasmata kapoias dhlwshs poy eixa kanei kai kata thn proetoimasia toy logoy toy ta perielabe sthn omilia. To qema gia mena exei lhjei.

PAPAGIANNHS: Alhqeyei oti sas thlefwnhse o ypeyqynos toy Grafeioy Typoy ths Arxiepiskophs kai oysiastika sas zhthse syggnwmh ek meroys oy Arxiepiskopoy;

ANTWNAROS: Yphrje epafh, sthn opoia eginan oles oi dieykriniseis poy htan xrhsimo na ginoyn. Gi` ayto akribws sas lew oti to qema exei lhjei.

PALAIOLOGOS: @Ara, profanws, yphrje parejhghsh. Gia na sas parei sto thlefwno@

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa.

GKOYTZANHS: An katalaba kala, h kybernhsh qewrei oti meta apo ayta poy apofasise xqes kai proxqes h Ierarxia, qa lamcei h alhqeia, qa ginei plhrhs kaqarsh stoys kolpoys ths Ekklhsias, kai ola qa pane kala;

ANTWNAROS: Edwsa apanthsh sthn arxh ths enhmerwshs, h opoia ejakoloyqei na isxyei.

NIKOLAOY: Xqes, stis ekloges poy eginan sthn katexomenh Kypro, to komma toy k. Talat anadeixqhke me megalh pleiochfia. Ayto shmatodotei kati gia mia nea prwtoboylia sto Kypriako;

ANTWNAROS: Elpizoyme oti kai ayth h diadikasia qa symbalei wste oi Toyrkokyprioi na exoyn akomh pio epoikodomhtikh stash stis prospaqeies gia ejeyresh lyshs sto Kypriako.

Sas eyxaristw.

Greek Government Press Briefings in ASCII Greek Directory - Previous Article - Next Article