Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-02-14

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Aqhna, 14 Febroyarioy 2005

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

Ayrio, stis 11 to prwi, sto Megaro Majimoy, synedriazei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, me qema to Eyrwpaiko Syntagma. Epishs apo ayrio -kai meta thn oloklhrwsh twn epafwn me tis politikes hgesies twn Ypoyrgeiwn- o Prwqypoyrgos jekina mia seira epafwn me toys boyleytes toy kommatos ths Neas Dhmokratias. Sto plaisio ayto, ayrio to meshmeri, qa synanthqei diadoxika me toys: Pano Kammeno, Petro Alibizato, Sofia Kalatzakoy, Giannh Mpoyga, Miltiadh Barbitsiwth kai Elena Koyntoyra. Oi epafes qa synexistoyn kai tis epomenes hmeres.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis.

PAPAGIANNHS: Qa hqela na kanw dyo erwthseis. H mia afora aytes tis synanthseis poy mas eipate prin apo ligo. Jekina neos kyklos epafwn me boyleytes toy kybernwntos kommatos; Kai to deytero poy qa hqela na rwthsw, einai kata poso alhqeyoyn ta senaria poy eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas h ta dhmosieymata diaforetika, sxetika me to endexomeno ths anaqewrhtikhs Boylhs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti ennoeite, legontas ``anaqewrhtikhs Boylhs'';

PAPAGIANNHS: Diabasate thn Kyriakh oti mesa sth skech ths kybernhshs einai na proxwrhsei stis allages.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sto prwto, nai, to eipa oti einai epafes me toys boyleytes toy kybernwntos kommatos. Den exw kati perissotero na pw. Sto deytero, den yparxei kati poy mporw na pw ayth th stigmh.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h kybernhsh sas deixnei mia ajioshmeiwth staqerothta. Ama th analhcei sas, ta esoda katerreysan. Isws eftaige to ``prasino SDOE'' tote, alla h katastash synexisthke kai ta esoda katerreysan kai ton prohgoymeno mhna. Anti gia ayjhsh 7,5% poy perimenate ton Ianoyario, eixame 3,35%. Yparxei akoma sampotaz apo to ``prasino SDOE'' h den mporese h kybernhsh na sygkrothsei ekeino to mhxanismo, o opoios qa mporoyse na antapejelqei stis ypoxrewseis toy kai na sygkrothsei ena mhxanismo eisprajhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epishs, qelw na sas pw oti ayjhqhkan ta esoda twn syntajioyxwn, twn misqwtwn k.t.l. Shmera, anakoinwnetai h nea eisodhmatikh politikh apo ton ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn, symfwna me thn opoia qa thrhqei h desmeysh ths kybernhshs gia ayjhseis panw apo ton plhqwrismo stoys misqwtoys, gia ayjhseis megalyteres apo toys misqwtoys stoys syntajioyxoys, gia ayjhseis diplasies apo ton plhqwrismo sto EKAS kai toys xamhlosyntajioyxoys toy OGA. Se o,ti afora sto erwthma poy anaferete, qa sas pw oti oi mhxanismoi toy kratoys leitoyrgoyn. Yphrje mia anadiarqrwsh sto SDOE. Qa synexisei h leitoyrgia omala, ta esoda qa ayjhqoyn kai qa epiteyxqoyn oi stoxoi mas.

GKOYTZANHS: Mhpws mporeite na mas peite poso qa einai to elleimma gia to 2004;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayta ta opoia exoyme anakoinwsei mexri twra. Den exei allajei kati.

GKOYTZANHS: Oxi, rwtw mhpws exoyme katalhjei sto poy qa einai to elleimma kai an ayto sxetizetai me th meiwsh twn esodwn synolika gia to 2004.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw kati diaforetiko apo ayta poy exoyn anakoinwqei.

TSIODRAS: Sxetika me thn Ekklhsia: O Mhtropoliths Peiraiws k. Kallinikos, xqes, apanthse ston k. Antwnaro, se ayta poy eixe pei thn Paraskeyh, sxetika me to oti h kybernhsh perimenei na dei to an kai to pote qa proxwrhsei h Ekklhsia sthn aytokaqarsh. Qa hqela na jerw, kat` arxas, pws ejelabe h kybernhsh th dhlwsh toy k. Kallinikoy kai deyteron, ean prokeitai na proxwrhsei se kapoies prwtoboylies h an qa perimenei akomh to an kai to pote qa proxwrhsei sthn aytokaqarsh h Ekklhsia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa sxoliasw th dhlwsh poy moy anaferate. Einai safhs h qesh ths kybernhshs, h opoia exei anaferqei sto ychlotero dynato epipedo, apo ton idio ton Prwqypoyrgo, thn perasmenh Trith sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada kai paramenei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na moy peite poso ayjhqhkan ta esoda twn syntajioyxwn poy lete; Yparxei pososto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws, alla qa ta anakoinwsei se ligh wra o k. Alogoskoyfhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Se pragmatikes times.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Throyme tis desmeyseis mas. H ayjhsh qa einai panw apo ton plhqwrismo gia toys misqwtoys, oti h ayjhsh qa einai panw apo tis ayjhseis twn misqwn gia toys syntajioyxoys kai diplasies apo to plhqwrismo gia toys xamhlosyntajioyxoys toy OGA kai gia osoys pairnoyn EKAS.

MPOTSARAKOS: Den sxoliasate th dhlwsh, omws o k. Kallinikos, o opoios opws oloi gnwrizoyme einai o pneymatikos pateras toy Arxiepiskopoy, xarakthrise atopes kai proxeires tis skeceis poy ekfrasthkan apo thn kybernhsh, edw sthn enhmerwsh twn politikwn syntaktwn. Den yparxei kapoia apanthsh ws pros ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ma, apanthsa prohgoymenws.

MPOTSARAKOS: Den eipate, k. Ekproswpe. Einai atopes kai proxeires oi skeceis ths kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas apanthsa prohgoymenws.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Mporoyme na ermhneysoyme ayto ton kyklo synanthsewn toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys boyleytes ws mia prospaqeia na dei poioys qa mporoyse mellontika na ajiopoihsei se endexomeno anasxhmatismo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kaqe ermhneia einai ayqaireth. O Prwqypoyrgos synantatai me toys boyleytes toy. Exei synanthqei kai sto parelqon. Twra, oi synanthseis ginontai pio organwmena.

PAPADOPOYLOS: O k. Papandreoy eipe oti h kybernhsh prospaqei na elegjei toys qesmoys. Ti apantate; Pws to sxoliazete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Papandreoy, kat` arxas, exei pei tosa polla kai antifatika poy qa prepei na jekinhsei apo ta basika. As apanthsei prwta, ean gia thn oikonomikh politikh, thn opoia paredwse h kybernhsh toy, eixe o idios symfwnhsei h diafwnhsei kai ti exei na pei gi` ayto. As synexisei me sygkekrimenes protaseis, ean diafwnei me tis protaseis poy exoyn ginei kai as katalhjei, apantwntas mas ean h protash poy egine molis prin apo liges hmeres apo ton eklegmeno me to chfodeltio toy PASOK boyleyth k. Stefano Mano gia apolysh 400.000 dhmosiwn ypallhlwn, ton briskei symfwno. Symfwnei to PASOK oti qa prepei na ginoyn apolyseis 400.000 dhmosiwn ypallhlwn; Dioti, to PASOK mas exei synhqisei na einai san ekkremes. Apo th mia akrh ws thn allh. As apofasisei mia sygkekrimenh strathgikh, mia poreia, mia politikh, gia na jekaqarisei tis qeseis toy ston kosmo.

KAKALHS: Pws threi h kybernhsh tis proeklogikes desmeyseis ths gia to EKAS kai ton OGA, afoy h ayjhsh poy dinei me bash ton plhqwrismo den jeperna ta 8 me 10 eyrw, otan oi proeklogikes desmeyseis den elegan ayto. Oi proeklogikes desmeyseis htan apo 140 se 230, poy metafrazetai, ean den kanw laqos, gyrw sta 25 me 30 eyrw to xrono.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exoyme pei oti qa fqasoyme ews ta 230 eyrw ws to telos ths tetraetias. Den exei kleisei akomh o prwtos xronos.

KAKALHS: Nai, alla gia fetos, omws, den throyntai oi proeklogikes yposxeseis, toylaxiston.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi proeklogikes yposxeseis throyntai kai sas to eipa me poly sygkekrimena pososta. Panw apo ton plhqwrismo gia toys misqwtoys, diplasies apo ton plhqwrismo gia toys xamhlosyntajioyxoys toy OGA kai gia osoys pairnoyn EKAS.

KAKALHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw gia thn ypoqesh Babylh: Alhqeia, pisteyei h kybernhsh oti den yparxei politiko zhthma me th drash aytwn twn mhxanismwn, oi opoioi dikazoyn kai apallassoyn emporoys narkwtikwn poy exoyn stenes sxeseis me thn Astynomia, me tis diwktikes Arxes genikotera; Den yparxei, dhladh, zhthma politikwn eyqynwn se ayto to zhthma; An ontws to pisteyei h kybernhsh, shmainei oti qa epanalabei kai qa synexisei h idia katastash.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exete bgalei ena symperasma diko sas kai epi th basei aytoy toy symperasmatos lete oti an symbainei ayto kai to pisteyei h kybernhsh, tote ... Ma, hdh h kybernhsh, opws qymaste, se zhthmata poy aforoyn th Dikaiosynh exei parei dhmosia qesh, oxi mono me politikh dhlwsh apo ton idio ton Prwqypoyrgo, alla kai me sygkekrimena metra poy anakoinwse thn idia ekeinh hmera o Ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs, katopin epafwn poy eixe me toys Proedroys twn Anwtatwn Dikasthriwn. Ara, loipon, h kybernhsh, h Politeia, exoyn hdh dwsei deigma grafhs gia to pws prepei na antimetwpistoyn problhmata san ayta poy anafyhsan ton teleytaio kairo kai ta opoia plhttoyn to kyros ths Dikaiosynhs, paroti anaferontai se mikro ariqmo se sxesh me to synoliko ariqmo twn leitoyrgwn ths Dikaiosynhs.

KAKALHS: Me ayta ta 12 metra poy anakoinwse h kybernhsh @

ROYSOPOYLOS: Jerete sth zwh xreiazetai diarkhs beltiwsh twn pragmatwn.

POYLIDOY: Giati sas jafniase h apoch toy k. Manoy; Kai o k. Boyrloymhs, ap` o,ti qymamai, exei polles fores eishghqei sto plaisio ths anadiarqrwshs toy OTE, apolyseis twn ypallhlwn kai o k. Arapogloy eixe pei thn allh fora oti oi mikres epixeirhseis prepei na kleisoyn. Ara sto dhmosio dialogo yparxoyn tetoies apoceis.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Mallon den qymaste poly kala, giati o k. Boyrloymhs den milhse pote gia apolyseis 400.000 dhmosiwn ypallhlwn. O k. Boyrloymhs milhse gia eqeloysia ejodo. Einai teleiws diaforetiko to ena apo to allo.

POYLIDOY: Kat` arxas, den exei tosoys ypallhloys o OTE.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den milhse omws gia apolyseis, enw o k. Manos milhse safws gia apolyseis 400.000 dhmosiwn ypallhlwn. Egw janakalw to PASOK kai ton k. Papandreoy: yioqetei aytes tis apoceis;

IWANNOY: Exoyn klonistei oi sxeseis kybernhshs-Ekklhsias; Exei parei safeis apostaseis h kybernhsh apo ton Arxiepiskopo kai tis ejelijeis sthn Ekklhsia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den exoyn klonistei oi sxeseis. H kybernhsh exei parei safeis qeseis gia ta zhthmata ths kaqarshs.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, enapoqetete thn ylopoihsh olwn twn apofasewn sas sto telos ths tetraetias. An oi ekloges ginoyn sthn trietia, aytes paramenoyn yposxesh gia thn epomenh tetraetia. H allh erwthsh einai: phrate metra gia tyxon peraiterw anazwpyrwsh toy plhqwrismoy meta apo aytes tis yperogkes ayjhseis toy EKAS kai twn syntajewn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H boylhsh ths kybernhshs einai apotypwmenh, me safhneia, ston proypologismo. O proypologismos aytos qa ektelestei kai qa exei ta apotelesmata, ta opoia h kybernhsh exei katagracei ston proypologismo. Sto prwto erwthma poy qesate, den qymamai na to eipa pote ayto poy lete. Oyte egw to eipa, oyte kaneis allos.

SIDERHS: Einai logiko symperasma. Synagetai apo ta pragmata.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den nomizw oti synagetai kati tetoio apo ta pragmata. Ekeino poy leme einai oti hdh exoyme arxisei na anaptyssoyme thn politikh mas. Oti h politikh mas se o,ti afora tis ayjhseis @ ayto to eipa dyo fores, na mhn to epanalabw kai trith @ einai ayth poy eixame proanaggeilei kai eixame desmeytei. Exoyme desmeytei gia mia politikh h opoia qa exei katalhjh sto telos ths tetraetias. Kaneis den eipe pote oti qa ginoyn ola sto telos ths tetraetias. Hdh exoyn arxisei kai ginontai polla pragmata, se para polloys tomeis.

ALIFEROPOYLOS: O k. Antwnaros mas eixe pei apo to idio bhma oti h kybernhsh perimenei na ginoyn gennaia bhmata apo thn pleyra ths Ekklhsias sto qema ths aytokaqarshs ths. Qewreite oti h desmh metrwn, opws thn periegrace o k. Xristodoylos, einai ikanopoihtika bhmata; Epishs, qelw na rwthsw, an yphrje thlefwnikh epikoinwnia Prwqypoyrgoy kai Arxiepiskopoy h epikeitai kapoia synanthsh toys.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den yparxei kati tetoio sto programma, oyte yphrje thlefwnikh epikoinwnia. Ean omws symbei, qa sas enhmerwsw egkairws. Se o,ti afora to prwto, h qesh mas einai safhs. Den qa sxoliasw ta bhmata ayta. Pros Qeoy! Otan kati einai pros thn kateyqynsh ths kaqarshs, qa mas brei symfwnoys kai qa sthrijoyme ayth thn ypoqesh.

ALIFEROPOYLOS: Epeidh eipwqhke oti perimenete na deite ayta ta bhmata, einai ayta poy perimenate na deite;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Isxyei ayto poy eipa.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Stis dhlwseis toy xqes o Mhtropoliths Peiraia k. Kallinikos amfisbhthse peripoy th dynatothta h kai th dikaiodosia ths kybernhshs@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den nomizw oti to ekane. Einai arketa empeiros.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Ma htan safestath h dhlwsh toy. Eipe oti h Politeia den mporei na parembei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Allh erwthsh;

XIWTHS: Me dedomeno oti synedriazei ayrio h Kybernhtikh Epitroph gia to Eyrwsyntagma, exei katalhjei h kybernhsh pote qa erqei pros kyrwsh apo th Boylh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Poly syntoma. H hmeromhnia qa anakoinwqei apo thn Proedro ths Boylhs.

XIWTHS: Epeidh yphrje shmera mia synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me thn Proedro ths Boylhs, pote qa syzhthqei to porisma ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs gia toys ejoplismoys;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Fantazomai oti qa kanei anakoinwsh h Proedros ths Boylhs. Den exw akribh hmeromhnia na sas pw. Qa perimenoyme na anakoinwqei apo th Boylh.

POYLIDOY: Ejetazei h kybernhsh to endexomeno anaqewrhshs toy proypologismoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

MPOTSARAKOS: Yparxoyn eishghseis apo kybernhtika stelexh gia na yparjei kapoia parembash ths dikaiosynhs me ola ayta poy exoyn apokalyfqei gia ta skandala ths Ekklhsias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Parembaseis ths dikaiosynhs hdh yparxoyn. Kai proanakritikes ereynes, ap` o,ti gnwrizw, exoyn jekinhsei apo ton armodio eisaggelea gia kapoia qemata.

POYLIDOY: Sthn apanthsh sas sto erwthma moy, ti orizonta dinete gia na mhn to epanaferw syxna - pykna;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Etoys.

GKOYTZANHS: Oi dhmosioi paragontes me eggrafa toys proetoimazoyn ta ejoda toys gia anaqewrhsh toy Proypologismoy. Ena tetoio eggrafo paroysiase o ``Ependyths'' to Sabbato. Qa hqela na rwthsw ean yparxei kati pio sygkekrimeno.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den yparxei tipote perissotero.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Gia na leei o Mhtropoliths Kallinikos oti h kybernhsh den exei dikaiodosia na parembei, h opws alliws ermhneyetai h dhlwsh toy, prepei na exei kapoia ``myrwdia'' politikhs parembashs. Exw thn aporia an qa yparjei ayth h politikh parembash kai oxi h parembash ths Dikaiosynhs pia, wste na anoijei aytes (den akoygetai) sthn Ekklhsia kai an dinete kapoion orizonta se aythn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai ena erwthma poy mallon prepei na apeyqynete ston idio.

BAGIANOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eidame kapoia sxolia toy Arxiepiskopoy, to teleytaio dihmero, poy mphkan se eisagwgika, oti h kybernhsh den exei thrhsei tis yposxeseis ths apenanti sthn Ekklhsia, gia tis taytothtes kai gia mia seira qematwn. Den yparxei kapoio sxolio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw dei na yparxei kapoia epishmh dhlwsh apo thn Ekklhsia.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, na to rwthsw kapws diaforetika: Eixe h kybernhsh ayto to xrono apo tote poy kerdise tis ekloges opoiadhpote syzhthsh me thn hgesia ths Ekklhsias gia to qema twn taytothtwn; Kai na perimenoyme kapoia prwtoboylia apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs meta ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, eixe yparjei synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Arxiepiskopo. Meta th synanthsh eixan ginei dhlwseis kai apo ton Arxiepiskopo, alla kai apo ton ypofainomeno. Den etiqeto tetoio qema.

KAKALHS: Exei h kybernhsh kapoio sxolio gia to gegonos oti shmera ekleisan ep` aoriston dyo Panepisthmia, to Panepisthmio ths Krhths kai ths Qessalias, ejaitias perikopwn stis dapanes kata 30% to 2005, se sxesh me to 2004;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To Ypoyrgeio Paideias exei hdh ekdwsei anakoinwsh. Ta pragmata den einai akribws etsi. Yparxei mia seira qematwn poy exoyn na kanoyn kai me ton tropo doyleias poy ginetai sta Panepisthmia. Kapoia aithmata ta opoia, ej oswn gnwrizw, eixan hdh ikanopoihqei apo to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias, sto xroniko diasthma metajy ths anakoinwshs kai ths pragmatopoihshs ths apergias, gia proslhceis oi opoies, allwste, einai poly mikres ston ariqmo aytes poy ypoleipontai apo aytes poy eixan anagkh ta Panepisthmia . Yparxei, omws, analytikh anakoinwsh toy Ypoyrgeioy Paideias.

TSIODRAS: Qa hqela na rwthsw an h kybernhsh skeftetai na proxwrhsei se politikh parembash sthn periptwsh poy h Ekklhsia den proxwrhsei sthn aytokaqarsh, poy meinei dhladh se ayta ta metra poy exei anaggeilei h Iera Synodos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den jerw ti ennoeite otan anafereste se ``politikh parembash''. To an, omws, poy bazete sthn erwthsh sas einai apagoreytiko gia na apanthsw se otidhpote. Den apantw pote me an. Yparxei mia diadikasia poy einai se ejelijh, h opoia kai eyelpistoyme oloi na exei ena poly kalo apotelesma gia thn koinwnia sto synolo ths. Den yparxei edw antiparaqesh dynamewn. Yparxei enas problhmatismos, o opoios aplwnetai synolika sthn koinwnia.

TSIODRAS: To lew, giati h Ekklhsia exei anakoinwsei metra. O Arxiepiskopos eipe ti protiqetai na kanei. Qa hqela na rwthsw an h kybernhsh protiqetai na meinei se ayta ta metra monon, na dei na ylopoioyntai ayta ta metra h an perimenei kapoia perissotera bhmata apo thn pleyra ths Ekklhsias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw na prosqesw kati perissotero. Kaqe ti poy jekinaei qa prepei na exei arxh, mesh, telos. Na doqei, dhladh, h eykairia kai h dynatothta na apotypwqoyn apotelesmata.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Yparxei kapoios xronikos orizontas se ayth thn anamonh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sthn allagh ths koinwnias;

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Sthn anamonh apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs sto na dei apotelesmata.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Den yparxei xronikos orizontas. Einai h boylhsh poy exei poly megalh shmasia kai ayth h boylhsh katadeiknyetai.

LEONTITSH: Sas eixa rwthsei kai prin apo liges hmeres gia toys ypotrofoys toy Idrymatos Kratikwn Ypotrofiwn, toys metaptyxiakoys. Maqainw oti akomh kai twra, shmera, den exoyn plhrwqei oyte ton Ianoyario.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Paideias.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Me ta zhthmata poy exoyn anoijei, opws sto Ekklhsiastiko, sth Dikaiosynh kai ola osa akoygontai, h kybernhsh ektima oti qa exei kai ena sygkekrimeno politiko kostos kai oti ayto apotypwnetai kai se dhmoskophseis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den metrhsame pote to politiko kostos, gi` ayta poy proteiname ston ellhniko lao oti qeloyme na kanoyme. Allwste, ayta einai ekeina gia ta opoia o ellhnikos laos mas ejeleje sthn kybernhsh.

GKOYTZANHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean meta apo osa exoyn perielqei se gnwsh ths kybernhshs gia thn ypoqesh Babylh, an qewrei oti yphrxe kapoios parakratikos mhxanismos poy leitoyrgoyse se synergasia me kratikes yphresies, mystikes yphresies, ekklhsiastikoys paragontes k.tl.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den prokyptei kati tetoio.

GKOYTZANHS: Sxetika me to prwtoselido toy ``Ependyth'', to Sabbato, gia ta aitia ths ptwshs toy SINOYK, to stratiwtiko eggrafo poy paroysiazei kai to oti den eixe paroysiastei mexri stigmhs ayto to eggrafo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ena eggrafo poy estalh stis 20 Ianoyarioy na paroysiastei poy; Den exei paroysiastei kanena eggrafo ths epitrophs poy diejagei ereyna. H epitroph ereyna toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas, opws dhlwnei kai sto idio to eggrafo poy dhmosieyqhke sthn efhmerida caxnei na brei kaqe piqanh aitia gi` ayto to dystyxhma poy mas sygklonise oloys. Yphrje mia apanthsh apo to GES kai mia apanthsh apo thn YPA, oi opoioi qewroyn adynaton, apiqano na exei symbei aytoy toy eidoys h proskroysh me ena aeroskafos to opoio petoyse peripoy 11 xiliometra pio chla apo o,ti to elikoptero.

SIDERHS: Eipate oti den einai ``parakratikos mhxanismos''. Pws qa orizate ayth thn omada, aytoys toys anqrwpoys Babylh kai sia. Yparxei mia lejh me thn opoia qa toys prosdiorizate;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den me prosejate. Den qa kanw prosdiorismoys gia to ti einai o Babylhs h oxi. Eipa oti den prokyptei kati tetoio, sto erwthma poy moy eqese o k. Gkoytzanhs an prokyptei oti yparxei sxesh me @``parakratikoys mhxanismoys'', me alles yphresies ``ypoptes'' h ``anypoptes'' h ``kaxypoptes''.

MPOTSARAKOS: Epikalesthkate thn apanthsh poy ejedwse h yphresia ths Politikhs Aeroporias, h opoia leei oti sta 3.000 podia poy petoyse to elikoptero den yphrxe kapoio elikoptero h aeroplano. Yparxei kai o dikhgoros, omws, ths oikogeneias toy Patriarxh, o opoios yposthrizei oti yparxei mia nekrh zwnh poy fqanei se ycos 7.000 podwn kai bebaiws erwta pws einai dynato na gnwrizei h yphresia Politikhs Aeroporias oti den petoyse kapoio allo aeroskafos ekei apo th stigmh poy den mporei na to dei apo ta rantar ths.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayto poy synebh me thn ptwsh toy SINOYK einai ena poly sobaro qema. H ereyna synexizetai kai elpizoyme na teleiwsei grhgora gia na exoyme oloi apanthseis. Den qa pw tipote perissotero apo ayta poy exei anakoinwsei hdh to GES kai h YPA.

GALIATSATOS: Ta apotelesmata ths ereynas ayths qa ta dwsete sth dhmosiothta;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ta apotelesmata qa doqoyn.

Sas eyxaristw.

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