Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-02-07

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Aqhna, 7 Febroyarioy 2005

JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs kai h oikogeneia toy eyxaristoyn oloys toys Ellhnes polites poy me diaforoys tropoys ejefrasan th symparastash toys sto penqos ths oikogeneias.

To programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy gi` ayth thn ebdomada einai to ejhs:

Thn Tetarth (9/2), stis 10 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synergasia me thn politikh hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas, sto plaisio toy kykloy twn epafwn toy me tis politikes hgesies twn Ypoyrgeiwn.

@Stis 11 to prwi, synerxetai, ypo thn Proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy, h Kybernhtikh Epitroph.

Thn Paraskeyh (11/2), stis 10.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synergasia me thn politikh hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs kai Trofimwn.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PAPAGIANNHS: Mporeite na mas orioqethsete tis sxeseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Arxiepiskopo k. Xristodoylo; Kai to rwtw ayto, giati se palaioterh enhmerwsh sas eixate pei oti oi dyo andres exoyn syxnh kai kalh epafh kai ayto nomizw epibebaiwqhke kai apo to prosfato deipno sth Rafhna.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa exw pei gia to qema.

TSIODRAS: Qa hqela na staqw, oxi stis sxeseis toy Arxiepiskopoy me ton Prwqypoyrgo, alla sto pws blepei h kybernhsh ola osa symbainoyn to teleytaio diasthma sto xwro ths Ekklhsias. Epimenei oti einai qema aytokaqarshs h mhpws xreiazetai kai mia parembash apo thn pleyra ths Politeias;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh sthrizei thn kaqarsh sthn Ekklhsia. O,ti xreiazetai na ginei se epipedo nomoqesias, qa ginei. Opws gnwrizete, se ayto to qema topoqethqhka ws Ekproswpos ths kybernhshs thn perasmenh Paraskeyh. Fainomena poy plhttoyn toys qesmoys ths koinwnias, prepei na ejaleifqoyn kai malista me diafaneis diadikasies, wste oi Ellhnes polites poy parakoloyqoyn ekplhktoi ta gegonota na exoyn aisqhma dikaiosynhs kai na epanakthsoyn thn empistosynh toys.

POYLIDOY: Otan dhmioyrghqhke to problhma ston tomea ths Dikaiosynhs, o Ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs anakoinwse kapoia metra antimetwpishs toy problhmatos. Twra poy blepoyme ton Arxiepiskopo na parembainei sto ergo ths Dikaiosynhs, me tropo poy oydeis dhmosios leitoyrgos qa mporoyse na parembei, h Ypoyrgos Qrhskeymatwn den exoyme akoysei na pairnei kapoia metra.

ANTWNAROS: Den antilambanomai ti ennoeite.

POYLIDOY: Ennow oti h Ekklhsia einai Nomiko Proswpo Dhmosioy Dikaioy kai qa perimena h kybernhsh na anakoinwsei kapoia metra mh parembashs sth Dikaiosynh, toylaxiston apo pleyras Ekklhsias.

ANTWNAROS: H Iera Synodos ths Elladas, se proxqesinh anakoinwsh ths, diatypwse orismenes protaseis -aithmata- stis opoies kat` arxas topoqethqhka ws Ekproswpos ths kybernhshs, thn perasmenh Paraskeyh. Tonisa proxqes -kai tonizw gia mia akomh fora shmera- oti ta aithmata ayta qa labei ypoch ths h kybernhsh kai qa apanthsei, efoson fqasoyn se aythn me tis synhqismenes diadikasies.

POYLIDOY: Eftasan;

ANTWNAROS: Ej oswn gnwrizw, oxi.

PAPADOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh yioqetei thn apoch oti yparxei mia genikeymenh kai shmantikh epiqesh pros thn Ekklhsia;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa, oson afora sto qema ths Ekklhsias. Den exw na prosqesw tipota allo.

XONDROS : Ektos ean sxoliasete kapoies dhlwseis poy exoyn ginei kai aforoyn thn kybernhsh. O k. Pagkalos tonise oti pisw apo thn epiqesh ayth poy dexetai h Ekklhsia einai h kybernhsh. Prwta xrhsimopoihse ton k. Xristodoylo kai twra ton peta san ``stymmenh lemonokoypa''. Kai deyteron, yparxei mia dhlwsh toy Arxiepiskopoy poy leei oti yparxei mia epiqesh enantion ths Ekklhsias, me stoxo na yparjei enas apoprosanatolismos ths koinhs gnwmhs apo zhthmata, opws to Kypriako, to Agrotiko k.t.l.

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na sxoliasw osa asteia kai efeyrhmatika isxyrizetai o k. Pagkalos. Den sxoliasw dhlwseis toy Arxiepiskopoy.

IWANNOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate pws o,ti xreiazetai na ginei se nomoqetiko epipedo, qa ginei. Ektos apo ayta ta metra poy exei anakoinwsei o k. Papalhgoyras protiqetai h kybernhsh na proxwrhsei se kapoia epipleon nomoqetika metra, giati apo tote exoyn dei to fws ths dhmosiothtas kai polla alla skandala, endexomenws kai xeirotera. Kai deyteron, ti apantate sto PASOK poy sas kathgorei oti prospaqeite na ekmetalleyteite mikrokommatika ayth thn krish twn qesmwn.

ANTWNAROS: Rwthqhka gia to qema ths Ekklhsias kai topoqethqhka. H prwtoboylia poy elabe o k. Papalhgoyras, me th desmh twn 12 metrwn, afora sth Dikaiosynh kai sthn pio eyryqmh leitoyrgia ths. Synepws, einai dyo qemata, ta opoia mporei na fainontai apo prwth matia oti exoyn sxesh to ena me to allo, alla den symplekontai. Prokeitai gia dyo jexwrista qemata.

IWANNOY: Gia to PASOK, den moy apanthsate.

ANTWNAROS: To PASOK probainei se isxyrismoys poy den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Ayrio eklegetai, me th bohqeia toy Qeoy, o neos Proedros ths Dhmokratias. Meta apo ekei, qa yparjei kapoia anaqewrhsh strathgikhs ths kybernhshs; Dhladh, perimenei ayto to xroniko shmeio h kybernhsh gia na parei kapoies pio rizospastikes, pio oysiastikes prwtoboylies; Diabazoyme, shmera, gia paradeigma, se kapoia dhmosieymata oti o Prwqypoyrgos qa proxwrhsei se allages sthn kybernhsh kai sth domh toy kratoys, meta thn eklogh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. Exoyn bash ayta;

ANTWNAROS: H epanidrysh toy kratoys apotelei akrogwniaio liqo ths politikhs ths kybernhshs ths Neas Dhmokratias. Oi prospaqeies pros thn epiteyjh aytoy toy skopoy einai synexeis apo thn prwth hmera poy anelaban o Prwqypoyrgos kai h kybernhsh thn ejoysia. Ola ta alla, sta opoia anafereste, einai ypoqetika. To qema toy anasxhmatismoy afora ston Prwqypoyrgo kai monon.

SOYGLERHS: Allages stis DEKO kai sto komma poy dhmosieyqhkan se efhmerides to Sabbatokyriako, sxediazei o Prwqypoyrgos;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na sxoliasw, se kamia periptwsh, kyriakatika senaria poy dhmosieyoyn oi efhmerides.

SOYGLERHS: Oi plhrofories poy lene oti o Prwqypoyrgos, meta thn eklogh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, qa proxwrhsei se tetoies kinhseis@

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

TSIKRIKA: O k. Alabanos kateqese erwthsh ston Prwqypoyrgo kai rwta, ean qa yparjei eqnikos dialogos gia to diaxwrismo twn sxesewn Ekklhsias- kratoys. Poia einai h apoch ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei h apanthsh poy edwsa thn Paraskeyh.

TSIKRIKA: Ti leei;

ANTWNAROS: Oti ayto to qema den apasxolei thn kybernhsh.

SIDERHS: Qa epanelqw. O en logw prokaqhmenos leei, poios einai ekeinos poy krybetai pisw ap` olh ayth thn efodo enantion ths Ekklhsias, se mia epoxh poy ta problhmata k.lp., k.lp. Ayto, ek twn pragmatwn, fwtografizei thn kybernhsh. Kai qa hqela na rwthsw, h kybernhsh ton qewrei agnwmona, dedomenoy (den akoygetai). Phge kai chfise to dhmochfisma-karikatoyra poy ekane.

ANTWNAROS: Sthn erwthsh sas perilambanete polloys isxyrismoys, ajiologikes kriseis, epiqetikoys prosdiorismoys kai alla sxetika, sta opoia, opws antilambaneste, den protiqemai na sas parakoloyqhsw. Exete, asfalws, ws dhmosiografos poly kales epafes. An krinete, den exete para na apeyqyneste ston ekastote poy kanei dhlwseis, wste na sas dieykrinisei ti akribws ennoei. Pantws, h entypwsh poy egw apokomizw den einai ayth poy eseis paroysiasate.

XIWTHS: Katalaba kala, otan eipate sthn arxh oti h epikoinwnia metajy Ekklhsias kai kybernhshs paramenei kalh;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

XIWTHS: Sto plaisio ayths ths kalhs epikoinwnias, qelw na rwthsw, oles aytes tis hmeres poy oi apokalyceis monopwloyn thn epikairothta, poses fores epikoinwnhse eite o Prwqypoyrgos, eite o armodios Ypoyrgos me thn hgesia ths Ekklhsias ths Elladas;

ANTWNAROS: H taktikh epafh den einai kat` anagkh se ebdomadiaia bash.

XIWTHS: Einai ena qema poy monopwlei thn epikairothta, an den yparxei anagkh epikoinwnias aytes tis hmeres, anarwtiemai, pote yparxei.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. Oson afora stis epafes ths Ypoyrgoy Paideias kai Qrhskeymatwn, parakalw na apeyqynqeite sthn idia.

XIWTHS: Ma yparxoyn;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sthn idia.

POYLIDOY: Eseis@

ANTWNAROS: Egw milw gia ton Prwqypoyrgo. Gi` ayto to qema sas apanthsa.

GKOYTZANHS: Parakoloyqeite aytes tis teleytaies hmeres nykterines ekpompes sthn thleorash;

ANTWNAROS: Jerete oti exw oikogeneia kai paidia. Kai exw kai alla polla endiaferonta sth zwh moy. Opws antilambaneste, den pernw olh moy thn hmera mprosta sthn thleorash.

GKOYTZANHS: Sas rwthsa gia to brady.

ANTWNAROS: Jypnw poly nwris to prwi@

GKOYTZANHS: H kybernhsh, ektos apo to na parakoloyqei stis thleoraseis ta akatallhla poy bgazoyn oi eidhseografikes ekpompes, skopeyei na kanei kati allo;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

GKOYTZANHS: (den akoygetai).. qa perimenei na teleiwsoyn oi kasetes;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

MPOTSARAKOS: H kybernhsh skeftetai na parei kapoia prwtoboylia gia th metadosh proiontwn ypoklophs thlefwnikwn synomiliwn; Giati ola ayta ta stoixeia apokalyptontai me th metadosh ylikoy poy exei ypoklapei. Ayto den problhmatizei thn kybernhsh h to ESR; Giati den exoyme dei kamia kinhsh mexri shmera; Einai nomimo ayto poy ginetai;

ANTWNAROS: Sthn erwthsh sas prosdiorisate kai ton swsto apodekth. Den einai qema kybernhshs.

MPOTSARAKOS: H kybernhsh den prepei na parei kapoia prwtoboylia gi` ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

XONDROS: Sto deipno poy eixe o Prwqypoyrgos me ton Arxiepiskopo eteqh apo th meria toy Arxiepiskopoy to qema twn taytothtwn;

ANTWNAROS: Eixa apanthsei tote. Isxyei h apanthsh moy. Den prokeitai na apanthsw leptomereiaka gia syzhthsh poy eixe o Prwqypoyrgos sto spiti toy, sto plaisio mias koinwnikhs epafhs, me ton Arxiepiskopo.

XONDROS: Epeidh shmera o Proedros toy LAOS k. Karatzaferhs afhse na ennohqei oti eteqh to qema twn taytothtwn kai yphrjan kapoies diafwnies.

ANTWNAROS: Ean eimai swsta plhroforhmenos -kai nomizw oti eimai- o k. Karatzaferhs den htan parwn sthn en logw synanthsh.

SOYGLERHS: To timing einai katallhlo gia na parei h kybernhsh thn prwtoboylia gia diaxwrismo kratoys Ekklhsias; Skeftetai kati tetoio;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa prin apo ligo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mporeite na mas dwsete ta 5-6 onomata twn dhmosiografwn poy pareleice h ESHEA;

ANTWNAROS: Qa hqela na dieykrinisw to ejhs: Ap` o,ti plhroforhqhka, h ESHEA me dikh ths prwtoboylia apaleice apo thn katastash poy ths apestalh apo thn Genikh Grammateia Epikoinwnias onomata dhmosiografwn poy eixan apasxolhqei kata to etos 2003 sto dhmosio kai ton eyrytero dhmosio tomea kai oi opoioi pleon den einai en zwh.

POYLIDOY: Plhn enos h mias.

ANTWNAROS: Sas metaferw tis plhrofories poy exw.

TSIKRIKA: Briskei symfwnh thn kybernhsh h diarroh ston Typo poy leei oti h k. Foyntoykidoy pairnei th qesh toy k. Pasxalidh kai alloi polloi;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai se kamia periptwsh na sxoliasw dikastikh diadikasia poy brisketai se ejelijh sto eklogodikeio.

SIDERHS: Exw mia dhlwsh toy k. Tsiartsiwnh o opoios thn ekane bgainontas apo to Megaro Majimoy. Diabazw epi lejei: emeis oi idioi oi politikoi qa prepei na orisoyme to neo plaisio symperiforas poy qa diepei oles tis ekfanseis ths politikhs kai koinwnikhs zwhs ths xwras. Dedomenoy oti thn ekane bgainontas apo to Majimoy apokta prosqeto baros. Qewreite oti einai glwssiko olisqhma h antiproswpeyei th nootropia ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Den antilambanomai ti qelete na peite.

SIDERHS: Apopneei kapoion oloklhrwtismo. Leei ``emeis oi idioi oi politikoi na orisoyme to neo plaisio symperiforas poy qa diepei tis ekfanseis ths politikhs kai koinwnikhs zwhs ths xwras''.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio gia th dhlwsh toy Ypoyrgoy.

GALIATSATOS: Eipate oti h kybernhsh sthrizei tis prospaqeies ths Ekklhsias gia aytokaqarsh. Mporeite na moy peite pws blepei h kybernhsh olh ayth thn katastash. Qlibetai h einai ikanopoihmenh; Pws qa to xarakthrizate;

ANTWNAROS: ``Qlibetai h einai ikanopoihmenh'' gia poio pragma;

GALIATSATOS: Gia tis apokalyceis kai ola ayta poy ginontai sthn Ekklhsia.

ANTWNAROS: Fainomena ta opoia einai dysaresta, efoson apodeixqei se oles tis parametroys toys oti antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta -dioti, paroysiazontai ayth th stigmh sta MME kai mporei na periexoyn kai stoixeia ta opoia den antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta- einai fysiko na qliboyn oloys mas.

SARANTAKOS: Eipate kai swsta, prohgoymenws, oti h ekpomph thlefwnikwn synomiliwn, kata mia ekdoxh proionta thlefwnikwn ypoklopwn apasxolei to ESR. To giati kai to pws kai to poia yphresia ekane aytes tis hxografhseis exei apasxolhsei thn kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete ayto to qema den apasxolei thn kybernhsh. Apasxolei Arxes oi opoies einai epifortismenes me thn thrhsh ths nomimothtas sth xwra. Paranomes energeies, asfalws einai katadikastees.

POYLIDOY: Tote qa epanaferw to erwthma moy: O Arxiepiskopos parembainei sth Dikaiosynh yper emporoy narkwtikwn. Ayto einai mia paranomh energeia. Poia htan h antidrash twn armodiwn Arxwn, panw se ayth thn energeia; Opoy yparxoyn apodeiktika stoixeia, yparxei epistolh. Den einai oyte proion ypoklophs, oyte kati allo. Einai mia ``skasth'' paranomh energeia.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio.

GALIATSATOS: O Ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs k. Boylgarakhs exei dwsei mia synenteyjh shmera, opoy afhnei anoikto to endexomeno na exoyme mia nea genia tromokratikwn organwsewn. Poia einai h ektimhsh ths kybernhshs panw se ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa exei pei o k. Boylgarakhs, me thn proypoqesh oti, osa toy apodidontai, apodidontai orqws.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Pws sxoliazei h kybernhsh to dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas ``Makedonia ths Kyriakhs'', symfwna me to opoio h etaireia ``Xali Mparton'', ths opoias Dieyqynwn Symboylos htan o antiproedros Tseni, brisketai pisw apo thn yponomeysh ths kataskeyhs toy agwgoy fysikoy aerioy, Mpoyrgkas-Alejandroypolhs ;

ANTWNAROS: Sxolia ypoqetika, dhmosieymata ypoqetika den prokeitai na sxoliasw se kamia periptwsh.

PAPAGIANNHS: Shmera to prwi, o yposthrizomenos apo th N.D. Nomarxhs Qessalonikhs k. Cwmiadhs, se prwinh thleoptikh ekpomph zhthse apo ton Prwqypoyrgo kai ta koryfaia stelexh ths kybernhshs, na kalycoyn thn Ekklhsia kai ton Arxiepiskopo. Mporeite na sxoliasete to gegonos ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi.

XONDROS: H Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn twn HPA k. Rais, sth episkech ths sthn Toyrkia eipe oti oi HPA ejetazoyn tropo gia na spasoyn thn apomonwsh twn Toyrkokypriwn, dinoyn apeyqeias kapoies xrhmatodothseis kai exei o Qeos sth synexeia. Pws sxoliazei h ellhnikh kybernhsh ayth th dhlwsh;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh yposthrizei thn thrhsh ths dieqnoys nomimothtas sthn Kypro. Kai ayth -h thrhsh ths dieqnoys nomimothtas sthn Kypro- isxyei gia oles tis xwres.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Pws sxoliazete to gegonos oti h k. Kontoliza Rais paei, peripoy, se ola ta krath ths Eyrwphs kai thn Toyrkia, alla den episkeptetai thn Ellada; Kai malista xeirizetai to Kypriako sthn Toyrkia, xwris na endiaferetai na perasei apo thn Ellada na mas pei tis apoceis ths;

ANTWNAROS: Den einai akribws etsi.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Pws einai; Tote giati den erxetai sthn Ellada;

ANTWNAROS: H k. Rais episkeptetai tesseris megales xwres ths Eyrwphs kai to Loyjemboyrgo poy exei ayto to ejamhno thn Proedria ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, kaqws kai thn Toyrkia, h opoia exei shmantikh emplokh sto qema toy Irak. Gi` ayto breqhke, kyriws, sthn Toyrkia. Oi ellhnikes qeseis, qa ginoyn gnwstes -einai gnwstes mesw ths diplwmatikhs odoy- sthn Atyph Synodo twn Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn toy NATO, h opoia synerxetai meqayrio stis Bryjelles, opoy h Ellada qa ekproswphqei apo ton Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn k. Molybiath.

XONDROS: Na meinoyme se ayto, epeidh yparxei ena qema: Oti h ka Rais dhlwse oti dinontai apeyqeias xrhmatodothseis stoys Toyrkokyprioys. Isxyei ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. Den exw tipote na prosqesw.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: O k. Ntenktas ekane mia dhlwsh poy akoygetai gia prwth fora kai poy sthn oysia aqwwnei teleiws thn ellhno-kypriakh pleyra, h opoia yposthrize apo to 1974, oti h Toyrkia eisebale sthn Kypro, oxi gia na diafylajei th zwh twn Toyrkokypriwn, alla gia dika ths strathgika qemata. Kai leei: ``Pragmati h Toyrkia eisebale sthn Kypro to 1974, oxi gia na diaswsei emas toys Toyrkokyprioys. Dioti ean hqele na mas diaswsei qa mas edine merikes polykatoikies sthn Toyrkia na pame na metoikisoyme. Mphke mesa gia strathgikoys dikoys ths skopoys''. Einai fobera sobarh h dhlwsh. Kai kati, mia antidrash, eseis;

ANTWNAROS: Fantazomai oti katagrafetai ayth h dhlwsh. Ayto einai poy metraei.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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