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Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-11-25

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 25 Noembrioy 2004

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos eixe makra thlefwnikh synomilia me ton Proedreyonta ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, Prwqypoyrgo ths Ollandias, k. Mpalkenente. Syzhthsan qemata poy aforoyn sthn proetoimasia toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy ths 17hs Dekembrioy, me idiaiterh emfash se zhthmata poy aforoyn sthn Toyrkia kai thn Kypro.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, poy anaxwrei opws gnwrizete ayrio gia thn Aigypto.

O Prwqypoyrgos, ayrio Paraskeyh 26 Noembrioy kai wra 14.30, anaxwrei gia thn Alejandreia ths Aigyptoy. Meta thn afijh toy, stis 16.30, qa exei synanthsh me ton Patriarxh Alejandreias.

Stis 17.45, o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei th Biblioqhkh ths Alejandreias. Stis 19.00 qa synanthqei me omogeneis. Stis 19.45 qa episkefqei to Moyseio Kabafh.

To Sabbato, 27 Noembrioy, stis 9 to prwi qa anaxwrhsei gia to Kairo. Stis 10.30, kataqesh stefanwn sta Mnhmeia toy Agnwstoy Stratiwth kai toy Proedroy Santat. Stis 11 qa episkefqei to Arxaiologiko Moyseio toy Kairoy. Stis 12.15 qa synanthqei me ton Aigyptio omologo toy k. Nazif. Stis 15.30 qa pragmatopoihsei episkech sthn Akropolh toy Kairoy kai stis 20.00 qa parastei sth dejiwsh poy paraqetei o Presbhs ths Ellados sto Kairo pros timhn twn dyo Prwqypoyrgwn.

Thn Kyriakh, 28 Noembrioy, stis 11.15, qa synanthqei me ton Aigyptio Proedro k. Moymparak. Stis 13.15, o Prwqypoyrgos qa anaxwrhsei gia to aerodromio.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qelw na epektaqeite ligo sthn thlefwnikh epikoinwnia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Mpalkenente. Ti dihmeifqh, eidika malista gia thn Kypro kai ta ellhnotoyrkika;

ANTWNAROS: Syzhthqhkan qemata ellhnikoy endiaferontos, alla prwtista syzhthqhkan eyrwpaika qemata. O Prwqypoyrgos, kata th diarkeia ayths ths synomilias, aneptyje tis pagies qeseis ths ellhnikhs pleyras sxetika me thn eyrwpaikh prooptikh ths Toyrkias, alla kai gia thn ekplhrwsh olwn twn krithriwn kai proypoqesewn poy xreiazontai, wste na proxwrhsei h entajiakh poreia ths Toyrkias, h opoia prepei na sebastei plhrws toys kanones kai th symperifora poy diepoyn thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Ayto shmainei oti o Prwqypoyrgos eqese oroys gia to an qa balei h oxi beto;

ANTWNAROS: Mh moy bazete sto stoma logia poy den eipa. Sas eipa oti o Prwqypoyrgos ejeqese tis pagies qeseis ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Briskomaste sto stadio diaboyleysewn pros thn telikh eyqeia gia th 17h Dekembrioy. Prokeitai gia lepta qemata ta opoia den qa syzhthqoyn me leptomereies sto press room. Opws jerete o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Molybiaths kanei mia seira episkecewn kai epafwn, oi opoies synexizontai.

BLAXOS: Ean h Toyrkia mexri tis 17 Dekembrioy den anagnwrisei thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia, ayto shmainei kata thn ellhnikh kybernhsh oti den mporei na proxwrhsei h entajiakh diadikasia;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti synexizontai oi diaboyleyseis, oson afora sta symperasmata ths Synodoy Koryfhs, thn 17h Dekembrioy. Qa prepei na perimenoyme thn oloklhrwsh aytwn twn diaboyleysewn.

BLAXOS: To qema einai ean h kybernhsh qewrei oti efoson h Toyrkia den anagnwrisei thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia mexri stis 17 Dekembrioy mporei na proxwrhsei. Den rwtw ti lete eseis. Egw rwtaw kai qelw mia apanthsh.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apantw oti ayth th stigmh synexizontai oi diaboyleyseis epi olwn twn ekkremwn qematwn.

BLAXOS: Ara, to afhnete anoixto na dexqoyme thn entajiakh poreia ths Toyrkias, akomh kai an den exei anagnwrisei thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia.

ANTWNAROS: Ayth th stigmh synexizontai oi diaboyleyseis.

BLAXOS: Wraia, to afhnete anoixto pantws.

ANTWNAROS: Tipote peran oswn eipa.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Eipate eseis oti o k. Karamanlhs eqese ston k. Mpalkenente oroys oti an h Toyrkia den plhroi ta krithria ths Kopegxaghs@

ANTWNAROS: Oxi, den eipa tetoio pragma.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Eseis to eipate, ``an den plhroi ta krithria ths Kopegxaghs'', den to eipate ayto to pragma;

ANTWNAROS: Eipa oti o Prwqypoyrgos aneptyje tis pagies qeseis ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, yposthrizontas thn eyrwpaikh prooptikh ths Toyrkias, h opoia gia na oloklhrwqei prepei prwta h Toyrkia na ekplhrwsei ta krithria kai tis proypoqeseis kai na sebastei toys kanones kai th symperifora poy diepoyn thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: To erwthma einai an den ta plhroi h Toyrkia ti qa ginei;

ANTWNAROS: Den apantw se ypoqetikes erwthseis.

KANELLOPOYLOS: H ollandikh pleyra, dhladh h Proedria, akoyse me katanohsh ta qemata poy eqese o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos;

ANTWNAROS: H ekastote Proedria katagrafei kai lambanei ypoch ths tis qeseis enos ekastoy twn kratwn - melwn, wste na katalhjei stis dikes ths protaseis. Etsi leitoyrgei h Proedria.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizoyme an symmeristhke tis ellhnikes qeseis.

ANTWNAROS: Den qa pw alles leptomereies, oson afora sth synomilia poy eixe o Prwqypoyrgos.

GKOYTZANHS: O Prwqypoyrgos, kata th synomilia toy, ebale oroys poy aforoyn thn ellhnikh pleyra; Estw ki an den mporeite na mas peite gia logoys@

ANTWNAROS: Den qa pw tipota perissotero gia to sygkekrimeno qema.

TSIODRAS: Ep@ aytoy, gia to sygkekrimeno qema. Milhsate gia oroys kai proypoqeseis.

ANTWNAROS: Den milhsa gia oroys kai proypoqeseis. Einai dikes sas oi lejeis.

TSIODRAS: Ma pws;

ANTWNAROS: Egw eipa gia krithria kai proypoqeseis, oi opoies den einai krithria kai proypoqeseis poy qetei h Ellada. Einai krithria kai proypoqeseis poy qetei h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

TSIODRAS: Ta krithria einai ta krithria ths Kopegxaghs; Kai oi proypoqeseis poies einai;

ANTWNAROS: Kyriws ta krithria ths Kopegxaghs. Alla mhn jexnate oti yparxei kai h ekqesh stis arxes Oktwbrioy, poy qetei diafora qemata poy aforoyn sthn enarjh twn entajiakwn diapragmateysewn me thn Toyrkia.

POYLIDOY: Hqela na rwthsw, me poioys oroys h kybernhsh qa einai eyxaristhmenh apo ta symperasmata ths Synodoy Koryfhs toy Dekembrioy. Ti qa hqele na perilambanei.

ANTWNAROS: Den qa kanw kamia anafora se qemata poy briskontai se ejelijh.

POYLIDOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sygnwmh, prepei na jeroyme me poion phxh phgainete gia na mporoyme kai emeis na ektimhsoyme ean ta apotelesmata einai qetika. Den mporoyme ayto na to maqoyme thn hmera twn apotelesmatwn, dioti tote den yparxoyn eyqynes.

ANTWNAROS: Yparxoyn diaboyleyseis se ejelijh. Exoyme pei, epaneilhmmenws, poies einai oi qeseis mas kai ti perimenoyme na kanei h Toyrkia. Ayta isxyoyn.

GKOYTZANHS: Sygnwmh k. Ekproswpe, alla apo ayta poy mas exete pei h entypwsh poy dinete einai oti o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn gyrizei stis eyrwpaikes prwteyoyses kai proteinei na entaxqei h Toyrkia aney orwn sthn E.E. Ayth thn entypwsh dinete.

ANTWNAROS: Ayth thn entypwsh apokomisate apo osa sas eipa;

GKOYTZANHS: Den sas rwthsame to periexomeno twn orwn ths ellhnikhs pleyras. Rwthsame, ean bazei oroys h ellhnikh pleyra h ean h ellhnikh pleyra kalyptetai apo tis eyrwpaikes proypoqeseis.

ANTWNAROS: Prin apo dyo ebdomades, se ayth thn aiqoysa, eixe apeyqynqei momfh pros ton k. Molybiath kai thn ellhnikh politikh hgesia oti den drasthriopoieitai. Sas eixame pei oti h ellhnikh politikh hgesia bebaiws kai drasthriopoieitai kai proxwrei se ekeinoys toys xeirismoys poy krinontai aparaithtoi, wste oi ellhnikes qeseis kai na akoystoyn kai na ginoyn sebastes. Ayto apodeiknyetai me tis epafes poy ginontai, me ta tajidia poy ginontai kai bebaiws me diplwmatikes diaboyleyseis poy briskontai se ejelijh. Den einai skopimo kai oyte synhqizetai na legetai dhmosia ti akribws ginetai kata th diarkeia twn diaboyleysewn, twn diapragmateysewn kai twn antallagwn apocewn. Oi leptomereies aytes den dhmosiopoioyntai sth dieqnh praktikh. Kai emeis, en pash periptwsei, den exoyme proqesh na tis dhmosiopoihsoyme.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw na rwthsw, ti eidoys epaggelmatikh sxesh diathrei o k. Flessas ws fysiko proswpo, eite ws idiokthths etaireias me to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas.

ANTWNAROS: H xrhsimopoihsh epikoinwniakwn symboylwn, toso dieqnws, oso kai sthn Ellada, einai edw kai polla xronia synhqhs praktikh. Ayto exei ginei ta teleytaia xronia apo polles kybernhseis, poly syxna sthn Ellada. O k. Flessas, loipon, xrhsimopoieitai ws epikoinwniologos. Gia thn akribh sxesh toy k. Flessa parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas.

SOYGLERHS: Monon ayth h sxesh h yparxei kapoia sxesh me thn etaireia poy diathrei o k. Flessas@

ANTWNAROS: Poia etaireia;

SOYGLERHS: Ths CIVITAS.

ANTWNAROS: Den moy einai gnwsth kamia tetoia sxesh.

SOYGLERHS: Einai proswpikh h symbash, h ergasiakh sxesh pleon apo edw kai pera toy k. Flessa me to ypoyrgeio;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti, oson afora sth sygkekrimenh etaireia, den gnwrizw na exei kamia symbatikh sxesh me to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas. Alla sas parakalw, gi@ ayta ta eidika qemata na apeyqyneste sto ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas.

TSIODRAS: H ``Eleyqerotypia'', shmera, apokalyptei ena eggrafo, me bash to opoio o Prwqypoyrgos eixe proanaggeilei stis 24 Maioy th systash Ejetastikhs Epitrophs, kataggellontas thn prwhn hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas gia toys TPQ-37, th stigmh poy htan ena eswteriko eggrafo akribws toy idioy typoy, to opoio shmera eseis lete oti einai enhmerwtiko shmeiwma, oti den exei politikh ajia kai den apotelei symbash. Pws, loipon, se mia periptwsh einai apodeiktiko toy gegonotos oti yparxei kati sapio kai prepei na systaqei Ejetastikh Epitroph, enw sthn allh den trexei tipota.

ANTWNAROS: Kat@ arxas, sas parapempw sthn anakoinwsh poy ejedwse shmera to prwi, to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas, sxetika me ayto to qema.

TSIODRAS: Thn exw mprosta moy, alla den nomizw oti apanta epi ths oysias se ayta poy sas qetw.

ANTWNAROS: Apanta akribws epi ths oysias.

TSIODRAS: Sto erwthma poy qetw, den apanta.

ANTWNAROS: Poy blepete na exei sxesh to ena me to allo;

TSIODRAS: Exei sxesh se sxesh me ton typo toy eggrafoy. Den exei sxesh se sxesh me ta oplika systhmata. Sto ena, loipon, einai idioy typoy eggrafoy, to ena to epikaleiste sth Boylh, to allo lete oti den exei ajia. Pws ginetai ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Profanws, h efhmerida thn opoia epikaleiste, den exei diabasei prosektika ta eggrafa. Sto ena o k. Tsoxatzopoylos shmeiwnei me ta grammata toy, yparxei idiografh shmeiwsh toy, sto periqwrio: ``Opws h arxikh apofash''. Ayto shmainei oti diagrafei me mia monokondylia thn eishghsh toy sygkekrimenoy eggrafoy. Agnoei o,ti exei apofasisei h texnikh gnwmodothsh kai proxwrei ayqaireta sthn katartish mias symbashs. To allo eggrafo, antiqeta, ejoysiodotei, wste na proxwrhsei h katartish mias symbashs, kaq@ ola nomimhs. Oi dyo pleyres kanoyn diapragmateysh gia kalyteroys oroys. Parola tayta, h shmerinh kybernhsh den katelhje pote se symbash. Dioti, h shmerinh kybernhsh apaitei na yparjei kati poy den yphrje sthn arxikh symbash: Nomimh eggyhsh. Mhn ta bazoyme ola se ena saki. Einai dyo diaforetika pragmata, ta opoia den exoyn kamia sxesh to ena me to allo.

TSIODRAS: Prokeitai gia eswteriko shmeiwma kai sth mia kai sthn allh periptwsh. H symbash den einai ayto to opoio paroysiase o k. Karamanlhs sth Boylh. Einai ayto to shmeiwma to opoio paroysiazei shmera h ``Eleyqerotypia''.

ANTWNAROS: Sas lew: To mempton einai oti me mia monokondylia o tote ypoyrgos k. Tsoxatzopoylos diagrafei olo to periexomeno toy fylloy aytoy -to opoio einai eswteriko eggrafo- alla den payei na exei isxy ws eswteriko eggrafo. Epibalei ayqaireta th dikh toy apofash, h opoia gia mas exei tis synepeies aytes tis opoies exei. Dioti, etsi epeblhqh mh nomimh eggyhsh, h opoia den prostateyei ta symferonta toy ellhnikoy Dhmosioy. Peri aytoy prokeitai.

TSIODRAS: Gia na anaferqeite, omws, sthn oysia, qa prepei na paroysiazete to teliko eggrafo kai oxi to eswteriko enhmerwtiko shmeiwma.

ANTWNAROS: Oxi, apo ayto jekinoyn ola, dhladh apo to eswteriko eggrafo.

GKOYTZANHS: Kai stis dyo periptwseis.

ANTWNAROS: Nai, alla sth deyterh periptwsh den katelhjan poyqena. Ayth einai h apofasistikh diafora.

GKOYTZANHS: Kai giati h kybernhsh den bghke na pei oti einai ena laqos toy k. Sphliwtopoyloy, prospaqei na ton kalycei, afhnontas@

ANTWNAROS: Poy blepete to laqos;

GKOYTZANHS: To oti ebale thn ypografh toy se ena Fyllo Enhmerwshs - Eishghsewn, to opoio den einai aplws eswterikh enhmerwsh, exei mia typikh isxy ayto to eggrafo.

ANTWNAROS: Kaneis den eipe oti einai laqos. Ayto to lete eseis. Einai ayqaireth dikh sas ermhneia, thn opoia h kybernhsh den apodexetai.

TSIODRAS: Sthn enhmerwsh poy mas kanate, proxqes, ypobaqmisate politika th shmasia toy eggrafoy, legontas oti prokeitai gia ena eswteriko enhmerwtiko shmeiwma, to opoio den apotelei symbash kai den exei kamia isxy.

ANTWNAROS: Einai ena Fyllo Enhmerwshs-Eishghsewn.

TSIODRAS: Kai to allo to idio pragma einai.

ANTWNAROS: As janaparoyme tis lejeis mia-mia.

TSIODRAS: Kai to allo, htan to idio pragma. To ena, loipon, den exei politikh ajia kai to allo erxetai sth Boylh apo ton Prwqypoyrgo. Pws ginetai ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Kai ta dyo exoyn politikh ajia. Oydepote sas eipa oti den exei ajia. Sas eipa oti prokeitai gia eswteriko eggrafo kai ejakoloyqei na einai eswteriko eggrafo. Prokeitai gia eishghseis. Kai me mia monokondylia o k. Tsoxatzopoylos ayqaireta -epanalambanw- diagrafei tis eishghseis, kati to opoio den ekane pote o k. Sphliwtopoylos. Parola tayta, h tropopoihtikh symbash den proxwrhse. Ki ayto giati h shmerinh kybernhsh --antiqeta me to o,ti ekane h prohgoymenh kybernhsh, poy oxi mono den ejasfalise, alla den zhthse kan nomimh eggyhsh-- apaitei th diasfalish me nomimh eggyhsh.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, gia na to dieykrinisoyme. Kai ta dyo eggrafa exoyn politikh ajia. Thn politikh ajia toy eggrafoy poy paroysiazei, shmera, h ``Eleyqerotypia'' thn katalabame. Thn paroysiase o Prwqypoyrgos sth Boylh. Poia einai h politikh ajia toy eggrafoy poy exei balei thn ypografh toy o k. Sphlios Sphliwtopoylos;

ANTWNAROS: Molis to anelysa.

XIDIROGLOY: Den problhmatizei thn kybernhsh olh ayth h istoria me ta eggrafa ta opoia briskontai stis prwtes selides twn antipoliteyomenwn efhmeridwn synexws; Den anhsyxei ki esas to gegonos oti kaleiste edw sto briefing na ``logodoteite'' gi` ayto synexws;

ANTWNAROS: Den logodotw gia tipote. Enhmerwsh kanw.

XIDIROGLOY: Ennow na dinete ejhghseis.

ANTWNAROS: Otan mia dhmosia yphresia krinei oti kati egine paratypws, diaqetei ta mesa, wste na elegjei tis paratypes energeies.

GALIATSATOS: Den katalabainw me poia logikh ena eggrafo ginetai eswteriko th Deytera kai jafnika ginetai politiko eggrafo thn Tetarth h peftei h ajia toy. Epishs den mporw na katalabw me poia logikh o eisaggeleas Aqanasioy dexetai ws monh nomimh eggyhsh thn trapezikh kai jafnika h kybernhsh edw kai dyo meres leei oti nomimh eggyhsh einai kai h kratikh otan yparxei diakratikh symfwnia. Mporeite na mas ejhghsete aytes tis piroyetes.

ANTWNAROS: Kat@ arxas, apo thn prwth hmera, milhsa gia eswteriko eggrafo. Ejakoloyqei na einai eswteriko eggrafo. Deyteron, o kaqe ekproswpos ths dikastikhs ejoysias mporei na katalhgei se ermhneies poy krinei orqes.

GALIATSATOS: Me bash ayto sthqhke h Ejetastikh Epitroph.

ANTWNAROS: Den einai etsi. Opws orizei h ellhnikh nomoqesia, h eggyhsh prepei na einai nomimh. H ellhnikh nomoqesia anagnwrizei dyo morfes nomimhs eggyhshs: Thn kratikh kai thn trapezikh. Kai mhn xrhsimopoieite --opws kanoyn orismenes efhmerides-- ton oro ``kybernhtikh''. Ayth, dhladh h legomenh ``kybernhtikh'' den einai nomimh. Sthn arxikh symbash den yphrxe kamia nomimh eggyhsh. Ayto isxyei kai den mporei na einai antikeimeno kamias apolytws amfisbhthshs.

SPYRAKH: Ektos apo ta krithria ths Kopegxaghs kai ta osa prosqetei h ekqesh ths epitrophs ths 6hs Oktwbrioy, h ellhnikh kybernhsh sthn orologia krithria kai proypoqeseis, prosqetei kai alla sth syzhthsh poy eixe o Prwqypoyrgos me ton k. Mpalkenente;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei h dhlwsh moy.

KOTTARIDHS: Stis proypoqeseis aytes h ellhnikh kybernhsh qewrei kai thn anagnwrish ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias apo thn Toyrkia h thn arsh toy casus belli apo th geitonikh xwra;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei h dhlwsh poy sas ekana.

SOYGLERHS: O k. Molybiaths qa exei kai alles synanthseis me toys omologoys toy; Mexri poy qa ftasei ayth h enhmerwsh kai an o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei alles synanthseis mexri tis 17 Dekembrh.

ANTWNAROS: Gia tis peraiterw epafes toy k. Molybiath, parakalw na apeyqynqeite ston k. Koymoytsako, o opoios pro oligoy ekane enhmerwsh stoys diplwmatikoys syntaktes gia to programma toy Ypoyrgoy. Oson afora sto programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, qa sas enhmerwsoyme otan yparxei kati pros anakoinwsh.

KAPRALOS: H efhmerida ``Ayrianh'' shmera, k. Ekproswpe, anaferei oti h sygkekrimenh etaireia Civitas ekproswpei sthn Ellada mia allh etaireia, h opoia emporeyetai kai kataskeyazei pyrayloys Patriot. Isxyei to sygkekrimeno dhmosieyma; Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

ANTWNAROS: Den eimai se qesh na gnwrizw to pelatologio kaqe etaireias.

KOTTARIDHS: H idia h etaireia diafhmizei sthn istoselida ths oti einai antiproswpos ayths ths etaireias edw.

ANTWNAROS: Ti sxolio qelete na kanw; Epi toy pelatologioy;

KOTTARIDHS: H sygkekrimenh etaireia einai h etaireia me thn opoia synergazetai o k. Flessas. Qa hqela na rwthsw an sas fainetai logiko mia etaireia poy kalyptei epikoinwniaka to Ypoyrgeio Amynas na exei sto pelatologio ths etaireies oi opoies emporeyontai oplika systhmata.

ANTWNAROS: Prwta-prwta, mia dieykrinish: Thn eyqynh gia thn enhmerwsh sto ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas den thn exei o epikoinwniologos ton opoion anaferate. Dieyqynths toy grafeioy Enhmerwshs kai Ekproswpos Typoy toy ypoyrgeioy einai o antiploiarxos toy Polemikoy Naytikoy k. Stefanos Gkikas. Oson afora stis sxeseis epikoinwniologwn gia eidika qemata, parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas.

KOTTARIDHS: Qa systaqei epikoinwniako kentro ypo ton k. Roysopoylo gia ton kalytero syntonismo ths kybernhshs me thn koinoboyleytikh omada;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei tetoio qema. Opws exei apanthsei o k. Roysopoylos: ``To kalytero einai pantote o exqros toy kaloy''. Fysika oi prospaqeies gia beltiwsh ths epikoinwnias synexizontai kai symmetexoyme oloi.

BLAXOS: Mia erwthsh poy sas eixa kanei kai xqes. Giati o Prwqypoyrgos eixe ena tetarto nwritera synanthsh me ton k. Molybiath kai ligo argotera prosteqhke kai o k. Balinakhs.

ANTWNAROS: Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw.

PAPADOPOYLOS: O k. Papandreoy sas kathgorhse oti proxwrhsate sthn apografh mono kai mono gia na spilwsete to PASOK kai na mhn pragmatopoihsete tis proeklogikes desmeyeis. Ti apantate;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Papandreoy paroysiazei kata kairoys diaforoys isxyrismoys. H apografh egine gia enan oysiastiko logo: Se ayth th xwra prepei epiteloys na epikrathsei h diafaneia kai na lamcei h alhqeia. Na mhn krybomaste pisw apo stoixeia poy den exoyne kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Ayth th stash qa thn thrhsoyme aparegklita.

BLAXOS: Nwritera to prwi se mia ekdhlwsh twn boyleytwn ths N.D., opws plhroforhqhka, o k. Alogoskoyfhs eipe oti otan h kybernhsh katorqwsei na rijei to elleimma katw apo to 3% qa einai h prwth fora poy h Ellada qa einai me to spaqi ths sthn ONE. Mexri twra den htan me to spaqi ths;

ANTWNAROS: H Ellada entaxqhke kai paramenei me to spaqi ths sthn ONE. Den exw ypoch moy th sygkekrimenh dhlwsh. Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw.

GALIATSATOS: Shmera o k. Ebert, se radiofwniko staqmo, problece oti h Ejetastikh Epitroph gia to Xrhmatisthrio qa jekinhsei to Genarh. Exete na peite kati ep` aytoy;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi.

FLORES: Qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs gia thn epistrofh toy kapetanioy Mangkoyra apo thn Ispania.

ANTWNAROS: Den xwraei kamia amfibolia oti einai mia qetikh ejelijh poy ofeiletai sth stenh synergasia twn armodiwn forewn twn dyo xwrwn poy diaxeiristhkan apotelesmatika to qema.

Sas eyxaristw.


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