Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-10-31

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 31 Oktwbrioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Shmera, pragmatopoihqhke mia eyreia diypoyrgikh syskech, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy, me thn paroysia kai toy Grammatea ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs toy PASOK M. Xrysoxoidh. Ejetasthke leptomerestata h poreia ylopoihshs toy synoloy toy koinwnikoy paketoy poy exei ejaggeilei h kybernhsh. Ayto to opoio hqele na shmatodothsei o Prwqypoyrgos einai oti ta metra prepei na efarmostoyn amesws, oti to Genarh -opws eixame ejaggeilei- prepei na exei efarmostei kai to paramikro. Ejetasame thn poreia ylopoihshs toys. Gia orismena apo ayta ta metra xreiazetai nomos, opws einai ta forologika h to qema ths xorhghshs twn 1.000 eyrw stis oikogeneies me paidia poy spoydazoyn. Sxetiko nomosxedio toy ypoyrgeioy Oikonomikwn qa katateqei syntoma sth Boylh. Gia osa xreiazontai ypoyrgikes apofaseis, aytes einai etoimes kai qa ypografoyn. H kateyqynsh poy yphrje -kai ayto htan to symperasma ths syskechs- einai oti to synolo twn metrwn qa efarmostei to Genarh. Bebaiws, opws gnwrizete, hdh efarmozontai alla metra, opws ta forologika.

Epishs, qelw na tonisw oti egine idiaiterh syzhthsh gia to qema twn proslhcewn me merikh apasxolhsh sto Dhmosio, me th symmetoxh kai toy ypoyrgoy Eswterikwn K. Skandalidh. Proxwroyme apofasistika kai se ayto to qema. Oi proslhceis qa proxwroyn tmhmatika, analoga kai me tis ekqeseis twn forewn kai thn ajiologhsh toys apo thn trimelh, ek genikwn grammatewn, epitroph, apo to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn kai Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai to ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn. H kateyqynsh mas einai na proxwrhsoyme me ta krithria poy orizei o nomos, me diafaneia kai ajiokratia -kai to tonizw ayto- sto synolo aytwn twn proslhcewn, poy qa tonwsoyn koinwnikes parembaseis sto dhmosio tomea, me idiaiterh aixmh th beltiwsh ths koinwnikhs prosforas toy dhmosioy tomea pros ton polith.

Eisagwgika, epishs, qelw na tonisw oti pragmatika den mporw na katanohsw th shmerinh, idiaitera astoxh kata th gnwmh moy, parembash toy k. Roysopoyloy. Toso o Proedros ths Dhmokratias, oso kai o Proedros ths Boylhs, eipan to aytonohto. Oti yparxoyn fainomena diafqoras sto dhmosio tomea, ta opoia prepei na antimetwpistoyn. Sthn proxqesinh parembash moy, tonisa oti einai qetiko ayto poy leei o Proedros ths Dhmokratias kai oti to eklambanoyme kai ws parainesh, prokeimenoy na synexisoyme thn ylopoihsh twn metrwn poy exoyme ejaggeilei, toy metwpoy poy exoyme enantion ths diafqoras, wste pragmatika na antimetwpisoyme kai na periorisoyme drastika ayta ta fainomena. Den katalabainw giati to eipe o k. Roysopoylos. Exw thn entypwsh oti prospaqei na ekmetalleytei mikrokommatika kai ejw apo kaqe sobarh logikh to otidhpote. Oi diapistwseis peri yparjhs fainomenwn diafqoras sto Dhmosio einai kai palies kai diaxronikes. Tis kanoyme oloi. Qa synergastoyme gia na tis antimetwpisoyme me ton tropo poy prowqoyme; Yparxoyn kai symplhrwmatikes protaseis se ayth thn kateyqynsh; An nai, na tis ajiopoihsoyme oloi. Den prosferontai ayta ta zhthmata gia mikrokommatikh ekmetalleysh.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

PITTARAS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qelete na kanete kapoio sxolio gia to neo "strathgo" toy PASOK;

PRWTOPAPAS: An ennoeite th xqesinh dhlwsh toy Grammatea toy PASOK M. Xrysoxoidh gia thn energh symmetoxh kai th shmainoysa paroysia toy k. Pagkaloy sthn kaqodhghsh toy proeklogikoy agwna mas, qa mporoysa na pw oti ayto den afora ton kybernhtiko ekproswpo. Ws stelexos toy PASOK, omws, to qewrw idiaitera qetiko. H paroysia toy k. Pagkaloy sthn kaqodhghsh, sto kentriko epiteleio toy proeklogikoy agwna, dynamwnei shmantika ton agwna ayto, symballei shmantika sth dhmioyrgia proypoqesewn nikhs toy PASOK kai enisxyei, bebaiws, idiaitera thn ideologikh kai politikh antiparaqesh mas me th N.D..

PITTARAS: O idios, omws, me kata kairoys dhlwseis toy, exei milhsei -malista treis fores- gia eperxomenh htta toy PASOK...

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws katalabainete, o k. Pagkalos qa agwnistei gia th nikh toy PASOK kai malista apo koryfaia qesh sthn epitroph toy proeklogikoy agwna. H paroysia toy k. Pagkaloy dynamwnei idiaitera ton proeklogiko agwna mas. Einai mia poly shmantikh kinhsh toy Grammatea toy kommatos, toy PASOK genikotera, poy symballei sth syspeirwsh toy Kinhmatos, perna to mhnyma ths syspeirwshs pantoy, enisxyei th dynamikh mas kai bebaiws enisxyei kai thn ideologikh kai politikh antiparaqesh mas me to komma ths N.D..

PITTARAS: Ayth h "olikh epanafora", epitrecte moy na th xarakthrisw etsi...

PRWTOPAPAS: Mh xrhsimopoieite titloys kinhmatografikwn tainiwn. Exw th gnwmh oti den tairiazoyn edw. Ejalloy, o k. Pagkalos den einai ...o Sbartsenegker. Qa elega oti ideologika kai politika einai se teleiws antiqeth kateyqynsh.

PITTARAS: Telos pantwn. Ayto shmainei kai anaqermansh twn sxesewn toy me ton Prwqypoyrgo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kanete mia erwthsh h opoia den nomizw oti xrizei apanthshs. Ayto poy endiaferei einai h symmetoxh olwn twn koryfaiwn stelexwn mas, anqrwpwn katajiwmenwn politika, sthn eklogikh maxh. Bebaiws, kai o k. Pagkalos qa palecei konta kai me ton Prwqypoyrgo kai me to Grammatea kai me oloys mas.

IWANNOY: Lete oti "bohqa sth syspeirwsh".

PRWTOPAPAS: Symballei idiaitera.

IWANNOY: Yparxoyn, omws, arketes antidraseis, arketwn boyleytwn toy PASOK, oi opoioi lene h en pash periptwsei diamartyrontai h paraponioyntai oti osoi kanoyn kritikh telika thn teleytaia stigmh mpainoyn kai se hgetikes qeseis, enw osoi akoloyqoyn kai einai nomimofrones olo ayto to diasthma, briskontai ektos.

PRWTOPAPAS: Mexri xqes, orismenoi prospaqoysan na oiktiroyn to PASOK oti den einai syspeirwmeno kai oti den metexoyn ston agwna ta kentrika stelexh toy. Twra, poy emfanizetai to PASOK syspeirwmeno kai meta ton Aleko Papadopoylo kai alla stelexh, erxetai kai o Qeodwros Pagkalos na symbalei kai malista apo idiaitera shmantikh kai barynoysa qesh, erxontai orismenoi na diamartyrhqoyn. To PASOK, se sxesh me ton eklogiko agwna, kineitai me bash ena triptyxo: politikes prwtoboylies, syspeirwsh kai ananewsh. Yparxei ena triptyxo, ek twn pragmatwn, poy diamorfwnetai gia ton proeklogiko agwna. Prwton, gia thn anadeijh ths fysiognwmias, toy ergoy mas, ths prooptikhs mas, ths ideologikhs antiparaqesh mas me th N.D.. Deyteron, syspeirwsh toy eyryteroy xwroy ths paratajhs mas, me thn eyryterh ennoia toy oroy "paratajhs". Kai triton, ananewsh poy qa ekfrastei kai me ta chfodeltia kai me alles politikes prwtoboylies toy Grammatea ths K.E. toy Kommatos. Se ayto to triptyxo, politikes prwtoboylies - syspeirwsh - ananewsh, badizoyme. Ofeiloyme na to tonisoyme ayto. H paroysia toy k. Pagkaloy qa symbalei idiaitera.

TSEMPERHS: Oi kyrioi Pagkalos, Arsenhs kai Papadopoylos epanakamptoyn. H apoysia toy k. Laliwth einai politikh prwtoboylia, syspeirwsh h ananewsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Biazeste para poly.

TSEMPERHS: Ektimate oti qa yparjei epanaproseggish;

PRWTOPAPAS: Pisteyw oti qa yparxei symmetoxh olwn twn stelexwn mas.

IWANNOY: Dhladh, kapoies epafes;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizw kati panw se ayto. Sas eipa th genikh politikh kateyqynsh. Gia ta eidika qemata qa enhmerwqeite apo to komma.

PITTARAS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, to PASOK qa sthrijei thn k. Aggelopoyloy gia thn Proedria ths Dhmokratias;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yphrxan sxetika dhmosieymata gi` ayto to qema. Nomizw, omws, oti h k. Aggelopoyloy exei hdh diaceysei tis sxetikes anafores. Exei tonisei oti diastreblwqhkan oi dhlwseis ths se kapoio jeno periodiko kai oti oydepote yphrje tetoia proqesh ths.

PITTARAS: Pantws, einai mia kalh idea.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa oti h k. Aggelopoyloy den eipe pote kati tetoio. Apo ekei kai pera, den nomizw oti to qema ayto prosferetai gia parapera sxolia. Apo th stigmh poy h k. Aggelopoyloy ekane aytes tis dhlwseis, den yparxei qema.

SIDERHS: Ton k. Pagkalo ton diorise o k. Xrysoxoidhs@

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai diorismos, einai systrateysh.

SIDERHS: Ton diorise kai den to hjeran ta melh toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy; Fereste na dhlwsate sto BHMA oti einai koryfaia h prajh kai den exei shmasia oti den to hjeran kapoia melh toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy. Ayto einai sebasmos stis dhmokratikes diadikasies;

PRWTOPAPAS: To Ektelestiko Grafeio exei ejoysiodothsei to Grammatea toy kommatos na kanei tis sxetikes syzhthseis me orismena stelexh poy den meteixan mexri twra energa sthn prospaqeia mas. Otan ejoysiodoteis kapoion na kanei aytes tis diergasies, ton exeis ejoysiodothsei kai gia thn telikh katalhjh. Ayta einai pragmata aytonohta sta kommata.

SIDERHS: Sthn hrwikh epoxh toy PASOK to legate "koptatsia".

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxoyn typikes diadikasies sth sygkrothsh ths eklogikhs epitrophs. To Ektelestiko Grafeio exei ton teliko logo gia ola ayta. Apo ekei kai pera, exei ejoysiodothqei o Grammateas toy kommatos gia tis sxetikes epafes, tis opoies kanei kai tis kanei me idiaiterh epityxia. Den gnwrizw an orismenoi stenaxwrioyntai gia to apotelesma, emeis exoyme kaqe logo na aisqanomaste eytyxeis.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Sxetika me to aeroplanoforo "Klemansw" poy erxetai sthn Ellada yparxei periptwsh na afaireqei o amiantos poy ferei;@

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo poy prokyptei oti erxetai sthn Ellada;

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Apo dhmosieymata olwn twn efhmeridwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei tetoio qema. To paroplismeno galliko aeroplanoforo "Klemansw" phgaine se mia perioxh ths Ispanias, th Rota, opoy problepotan na dialyqei. Allaje poreia stis 17/10 kai phgaine pros thn Anatolikh Mesogeio. Apo mia plhroforia poy exoyme h ispanikh ploiokthtria etaireia eixe apofasisei na to poylhsei sthn India kai to Pakistan, alla ecaxne na brei kapoio nayphgeio gia na afairesei ta tojika apoblhta, ta opoias opws fainetai yparxoyn sto ploio. Yphrje mia antidrash twn naytergatikwn swmateiwn ths Ispanias. To ploio brisketai anoikta toy limena twn Syrakoyswn, logw dysmenwn kairikwn synqhkwn, kai caxnei profanws kapoio nayphgeio gia na paei. Den exoyme kanena aithma gia na erqei sthn Ellada kai bebaiws den exoyme kai kamia epiqymia gia tetoio aithma. Maqame oti allaje kai h ploiokthtria etaireia. Pantws, mexri ayth th stigmh den yparxei kamia sxetikh endeijh oti erxetai sthn Ellada, apo o,ti exw plhroforhqei toso apo to ypoyrgeio Emporikhs Naytilias, oso kai apo to Eqnikhs Amynas.

KARGOYDH: H efhmerida "MAKEDONIA" dhmosieyei shmera plhrofories gia to periexomeno ths ekqeshs ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs, sxetika me thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias. Ta symperasmata einai kaqolikws arnhtika. Hqela na rwthsw an h ellhnikh kybernhsh ektima oti h toyrkikh kybernhsh mporei na proxwrhsei me logikoys ryqmoys stis metarryqmiseis ths, wste na ths doqei h "perifhmh" hmeromhnia gia thn entajh ths.

PRWTOPAPAS: H toyrkikh kybernhsh prepei na parei tis apofaseis ths. An qelei na mpei sthn Eyrwph prepei na prosarmostei stoys oroys ths Synodoy Koryfhs ths E.E. sto Elsinki kai na symbalei sthn epilysh toy Kypriakoy. Prepei na einai mia xwra poy apodeiknyei oti sebetai toys geitones ths, alla kai ta anqrwpina dikaiwmata sto eswteriko ths. Oso pio grhgora kinhqei pros ayth thn kateyqynsh, toso kalytera qa paei. Emeis qeloyme na kinhqei pros ayth thn kateyqynsh emprakta.

PITTARAS: Diabazoyme shmera sto "BHMA" ena dhmosieyma poy leei oti mia ebraikh organwsh stis HPA ballei kata toy Ellhna Prwqypoyrgoy me seira dhmosieymatwn kai arqrwn, emfanizontas ton Kwsta Shmith oti askei antiebraikh politikh kai oti enqarrynei to misos enantion twn Ebraiwn. Exete kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto einai sth sfaira toy paralogoy. Gnwrizete poly kala oti tetoioy eidoys fyletikes diakriseis einai makria apo th logikh, th skech, thn praktikh, thn ideologia, th filosofikh topoqethsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Exw katadikasei me entolh toy, kat` epanalhch, fainomena ratsismoy, diakrisewn analoga me th qrhskeia h th fylh kai kaqe eidoys tetoies antilhceis. Gnwrizete, epishs, oti tetoia fainomena pote den exoyn emfanistei kai sthn ejwterikh politikh mas. Den gnwrizw poioi einai aytoi poy ta lene, alla einai ejw apo thn pragmatikothta.

SIDERHS: Lene oti mazi me to Sirak@

PRWTOPAPAS: To gnwrizoyme ayto to qema, einai palio. O k. Sirak eipe oti ayta ta zhthmata prepei na lynontai me alles diadikasies kai oxi sto podi, sth diarkeia enos symboylioy, thn wra poy syzhtoysan alla qemata. Htan kaqara diadikastikh parembash, poy den eixe na kanei se tipota me thn oysia. Den einai dynaton ena diadikastiko qema na taytizetai me qemata oysias. Epi ths oysias h topoqethsh mas einai safestath.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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