Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-07-21

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 21 Ioylioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Qa sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai qa sas dianeimw kai dyo keimena. To ena einai toy arxhgoy ths N.D. k. K. Karamanlh stis 21.1.2000, sthn opoia mporeite na deite, sth selida 6, oti o k. Karamanlhs anaferetai leptomerestata se protaseis gia thn allagh toy eklogikoy nomoy, opoy qetei ws basikh arxh oti den mporei, bebaia, na isxyei o eklogikos nomos gia tis epomenes ekloges, para mono ean chfistei thn prwth periodo ths qhteias ths Boylhs. Me dedomeno, loipon, oti den qa isxysei gia tis epomenes ekloges, den nomizw oti qa prepei, me bash thn omilia toy stis 21.1.2000, na exei antirrhsh na syzhthqei kai na chfistei o eklogikos nomos. Etsi, toylaxiston, eixe pei.

Epishs, qa yparjei ena keimeno, poy apotelei to sxedio ths epistolhs poy qa aposteilei shmera to apogeyma o Prwqypoyrgos pros toys boyleytes toy PASOK, me to opoio zhtei stoixeia gia tis xrhmatisthriakes synallages toys. Peran ths epistolhs, qa yparjei episynaptomenh, ena eidos formas, poy qa einai dieykrinistikh gia ta stoixeia poy prepei na symplhrwsoyn oi boyleytes.

Sas enhmerwnw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy:

Ayth thn wra, ginetai synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me thn hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn kai to Grammatea toy PASOK Mixalh Xrysoxoidh. Qa syzhthqoyn qemata idiaitera epikaira kai sobara poy apasxoloyn ta epimeroys ypoyrgeia, sto plaisio ths enhmerwshs ths kybernhshs pros to komma kai toy kommatos pros thn kybernhsh.

Stis 7 to apogeyma, qa exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Paideias Petro Eyqymioy.

Ayrio, o Prwqypoyrgos qa metabei sta Grebena. Metajy allwn, qa egkainiasei to Nosokomeio toy Nomoy, qa episkefqei monada neosyllektwn kai qa exei thn eykairia na milhsei sto Dhmarxeio ths polhs.

Stis 7 to apogeyma, qa exei synanthsh, sto Megaro Majimoy, me ton ypoyrgo Anaptyjhs Akh Tsoxatzopoylo.

Thn Tetarth, stis 10.30 qa exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Ergasias Dhmhtrh Reppa kai ton yfypoyrgo Roberto Spyropoylo. Kai stis 12 to meshmeri, qa exei arxikws synanthsh me toys kyrioys Xristodoylakh kai Paxta, me antikeimeno to G@ K.P.S. kai sth synexeia, qa dei diadoxika, gia to idio qema, thn ypoyrgo PEXWDE Basw Papandreoy, ton ypoyrgo Anaptyjhs Akh Tsoxatzopoylo, ton ypoyrgo Metaforwn Xrhsto Berelh, ton ypoyrgo Ygeias Kwsta Stefanh kai ton ypoyrgo Politismoy Eyaggelo Benizelo.

Thn Pempth, stis 10.30, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio gia thn epilogh twn anwtatwn dikastikwn leitoyrgwn. Sth synexeia, qa ginei eidikh diypoyrgikh syskech, ypo thn proedreia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, gia thn proetoimasia ths DEQ kai meta, mia allh diypoyrgikh syskech gia ta erga ston Peiraia. Sthn prwth diypoyrgikh syskech qa symmetexoyn Qessalonikeis ypoyrgoi kai sth deyterh oi armodioi gia ta erga ston Peiraia.

To brady, opws gnwrizete, o Prwqypoyrgos qa parastei, opws kaqe xrono, sth dejiwsh poy dinei o Proedros ths Dhmokratias Kwsths Stefanopoylos, gia thn epeteio ths apokatastashs ths Dhmokratias.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 10 to prwi, qa synanthqei me ton k. Xristodoylakh, ton k. Papantwnioy kai ton k. Gkargkana, gia diafora qemata ths oikonomias kai eidikotera gia th Genikh Trapeza.

Stis 12.30, qa exei synanthsh me ton k. Kwsta Stefanh, paroysia kai toy k. Xrysoxoidh. Einai synanthsh allhloenhmerwshs, metajy toy ypoyrgeioy Ygeias kai toy PASOK gia qemata toy ypoyrgeioy.

Stis 28 Ioylioy, o Prwqypoyrgos qa paei sta Kamena Boyrla, opoy diorganwnetai to Pagkosmio Festibal ths Sosialistikhs Neolaias kai qa ekfwnhsei omilia.

Stis 29 Ioylioy, qa yparjei synedriash, gia qemata epikoinwnias, me thn paroysia toy Grammatea toy Kommatos Mixalh Xrysoxoidh, ths politikhs hgesias toy ypoyrgeioy Typoy, toy ypofainomenoy kai toy yfypoyrgoy Thlemaxoy Xythrh kai toy Grammatea Epikoinwnias toy PASOK Nikoy Aqanasakh.

Stis 31 Ioylioy, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio gia qemata Topikhs Aytodioikhshs.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Me aformh ayto poy mas dwsate, to keimeno toy k. Karamanlh, hqela na sas qymisw oti sth Boylh, stis 9.2.2000, o Prwqypoyrgos apantwntas se erwthsh toy k. Mhtsotakh, toy eipe gia ton eklogiko nomo oti oi allages ston eklogiko nomo, ligo prin apo tis ekloges, to diabazw akribws...

PRWTOPAPAS: To eida, mhn koyrazeste. To eida kai sto ``spot'' ths N.D.

KANELLOPOYLOS: To exei dhmosieysei h efhmerida moy kai qelw na to diabasw: ``Oi allages toy eklogikoy nomoy, ligo prin apo tis ekloges, einai mia praktikh poy exei katadikastei apo to synolo toy politikoy kosmoy...

PRWTOPAPAS: Tis erwthseis sas k. Kanellopoyle. Mhn epanalambanete...

KANELLOPOYLOS: Giati o Prwqypoyrgos allaje qesh, otan stis paramones twn prohgoymenwn eklogwn mas elege oti exei katadikastei h praktikh toy na allazoyme eklogiko nomo paramones twn eklogwn; Twra poy eimaste se mia periodo, ligo prin apo tis ekloges, o Prwqypoyrgos kanei mia strofh 180 moirwn. Poios o logos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kamia strofh den kanei o Prwqypoyrgos. To jekaqarise me tis dhlwseis ths Paraskeyhs. O Prwqypoyrgos to eipe, to ennoei, to efarmozei, to katoxyrwse kai sto Syntagma. O eklogikos nomos den qa allajei paramones eklogwn. Den isxyei o eklogikos nomos poy qa chfistei gia tis epomenes ekloges. Malista eimaste etoimoi na syzhthsoyme kai na symfwnhsoyme na mhn isxyei se periptwsh eklogwn -poy den yparxei logos na ginoyn- kai thn anoijh toy 2005. Ara, emeis leme oti throyme apolyta tis desmeyseis mas. O eklogikos nomos den qa isxyei gia tis ekloges toy 2004. Den xreiazetai na isxysei oyte se periptwsh eklogwn to 2005. Emeis leme: ``Elate na syzhthsoyme''. O k. Karamanlhs eixe pei ton Ianoyario toy 2000 ``koybentiazw eklogiko nomo''. Eixe, malista, diatypwsei kai protaseis idiaitera tolmhres, gia ena systhma analogo me to germaniko, ypo ton oro oti den qa isxyei gia tis epomenes ekloges. Toy apantame: ``Den isxyei kyrie Karamanlh gia tis epomenes ekloges. Elate na syzhthsoyme. Mhn yponomeyete th Dhmokratia, mhn thn prosbalete me thn arnhsh dialogoy, mhn yponomeyete ton idio ton qesmiko sas rolo, ws ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh''.

Akyrwnei o k. Karamanlhs to qesmiko toy rolo, me thn arnhsh dialogoy. Prosballei tis leitoyrgies ths Dhmokratias. Erxetai se antiqesh me th qelhsh toy ellhnikoy laoy. Ti paei na pei ``arnoymai na syzhthsw'', otan den yparxei qema gia tis epomenes ekloges, opws o idios zhtoyse; Giati einai anakoloyqos; Giati dexetai toso baria na ektiqetai kai arneitai th stoixeiwdh leitoyrgia ths Dhmokratias mas, to dialogo metajy twn kommatwn gia ena qema poy afora to politiko mas systhma;

KANELLOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos mesa se tria xronia anairei ta osa diabebaiwne...

PRWTOPAPAS: Kyrie Kanellopoyle eiste egkritos dhmosiografos kai jerete oti to Syntagma mas exei allajei. Afoy to jerete oti exei allajei, mh synexizete na rwtate, dioti gnwrizw oti gnwrizete.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Epeidh eipate prohgoymenws oti o Prwqypoyrgos, stis dhlwseis toy ta ennoei ayta poy leei, to 2000, paramones eklogwn, den ta ennooyse ayta poy elege;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ma, gi ayto allaje to Syntagma o Prwqypoyrgos, gia na mhn isxyei gia tis epomenes ekloges o eklogikos nomos. Ayto den eixe pei; Oti den mporw na chfizw eklogiko nomo kai na ton efarmozw meta apo 5-10 mhnes; Ti kanei, loipon, twra; Eishgeitai eklogiko nomo gia na efarmostei to 2008. Einai apolyta synephs me tis dhlwseis toy o Prwqypoyrgos. Ekeinos poy menei baria ekteqeimenos gia plhrh anakoloyqia, gia akyrwsh toy idioy toy qesmikoy toy roloy kai gia prosbolh ths dhmokratikhs leitoyrgias, einai o k. Karamanlhs, o opoios peismatika, epimona kai anaitiologhta arneitai to dialogo, arneitai na syzhthsei. Arneitai na kaqisei sto trapezi, arneitai na syzhthsei gia tis allages sto politiko mas systhma, se ena qema, poy opws apodeixqhke, endiaferei ton ellhniko lao, opws endiaferoyn kai ta alla. Alla kai sta alla prowqoyntai oi politikes mas.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Epeidh xrhsimopoihsate th lejh "anakoloyqos", o Prwqypoyrgos den einai anakoloyqos, otan ...

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas apanthsa.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Den moy apanthsate. Apeyqyneste sth N.D. kai ton Proedro ths.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa oti o Prwqypoyrgos, epeidh panta einai synephs, eishghqhke thn allagh toy Syntagmatos kai etsi o eklogikos nomos poy qa chfisoyme den qa isxyei gia tis epomenes ekloges. Thrhse, loipon, to basiko pyrhna ths ejaggelias toy.

KANELLOPOYLOS: O k. Shmiths eipe oti kryboyn skopimothtes tetoies energeies, paramones eklogwn. Twra yparxei skopimothta;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ektimw oti katalabainete perissotera apo o,ti rwtate.

KARGOYDH: Qa hqela to sxolio sas gia th dhmoskophsh poy dhmosieyse xqes kyriakatikh efhmerida, opoy yparxoyn dyo shmantika symperasmata. To ena, oti yparxei mia poly megalh pleiochfia, akomh kai opadwn ths N.D., poy epiqymei na ginei dialogos gia ton eklogiko nomo kai to deytero oti yparxei, gia prwth fora, kai mia pleiochfia poy zhta prowres ekloges ton Oktwbrh toy 2003. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Stis dhmoskophseis anaferontai mia seira zhthmata. Prowres ekloges den qa ginoyn, dioti ayto epitassei to Syntagma mas kai dioti prepei na oloklhrwsoyme to ergo mas. Apo ekei kai pera, opws eida se polles dhmoskophseis, exei emfanistei antiqesh gia prowres ekloges. H politikh mas den ejartatai apo thn opoiadhpote dhmoskophsh. To aithma twn prowrwn eklogwn einai enantion twn symferontwn toy ellhnikoy laoy. Den ejyphretei ta genikotera symferonta ths xwras. Epanalambanw oti oi ekloges qa ginoyn kanonika thn anoijh toy 2004.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Epeidh sthn prwth apanthsh sas gia to qema toy eklogikoy nomoy, emmesws epikalesthkate th xqesinh dhmoskophsh, kathgorwntas ton k. Karamanlh oti paei enantia sth boylhsh toy ellhnikoy laoy...

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa oti prosballei th Dhmokratia kai to exw pei ayto apo to Sabbato.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Eipate, omws, oti erxetai kai se antiqesh me th boylhsh toy ellhnikoy laoy...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den anaferomoyn se kamia dhmoskophsh. Einai orato oti o ellhnikos laos qelei to dialogo gia ola ta sobara zhthmata poy ton apasxoloyn. Einai adianohto na les "den koybentiazoyme".

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Qewreite oti ayto to 50% toy ellhnikoy laoy poy, symfwna me th xqesinh dhmoskophsh, qelei thn prowrh prosfygh stis kalpes, gia prwth fora stelnei ena mhnyma dysareskeias sthn kybernhsh; Pws to ermhneyei h kybernhsh ayto to pososto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ola ta apotelesmata twn dhmoskophsewn ta ajiologoyme. Apo ekei kai pera, exoyme parei tis apofaseis mas kai badizoyme me gnwmona ta symferonta toy ellhnikoy laoy, poy einai na erqei se peras to ergo poy exoyme analabei kai exoyme desmeyqei apenanti toy. Ayto to ergo o idios o ellhnikos laos qa to ajiologhsei stis ekloges. Den qa yparjoyn prowres ekloges. Qa ginoyn kanonika me th lhjh ths qhteias mas.

ELENOPOYLOS: Ekeino to qema ths listas, mhpws to "pairnei to potamaki";

PRWTOPAPAS: To "potamaki" den pairnei tipota. Ola qa teqoyn sto trapezi toy dialogoy. Mh biazeste. O k. Skandalidhs syntoma qa analabei prwtoboylies, qa apeyqynqei pros toys arxhgoys twn kommatwn, prokeimenoy na paroysiasei tis protaseis mas kai qa enhmerwsei, bebaiws, kai toys boyleytes toy PASOK. To qema ayto qa exei synexeia. O dialogos gia to eklogiko systhma qa proxwrhsei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Me poion qa ginei o dialogos, afoy kanena den metexei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Me ta politika kommata kai thn ellhnikh koinwnia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa ginei me ton k. Mpisth;

PRWTOPAPAS: Biazeste.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Epibebaiwnete kapoies plhrofories poy lene oti exoyn kleistei ranteboy toy k. Skandalidh me ton k. Tsobola, thn ka Paparhga kai ton k. Kwnstantopoylo, thn Tetarth, thn Pempth kai th Deytera;

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Skandalidhs qa zhthsei synanthseis me toys arxhgoys twn kommatwn. Apo ekei kai pera, gia tis hmeres kai tis wres, qa sas enhmerwsei o idios.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Rwtw, an exoyn hdh kleistei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to gnwrizw, ayth th stigmh. Sas eipa, omws, oti o k. Skandalidhs qa zhthsei aytes tis synanthseis.

BITALHS: Qa hqela na epanelqw sto qema toy "poqen esxes". An qymamai kala, meta th lhjh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy meta ton anasxhmatismo, o Prwqypoyrgos, anaggellontas tis prwtoboylies gia toys boyleytes toy PASOK, eixe prosdiorisei safws oti qa zhthsei ta stoixeia gia tis xrhmatisthriakes synallages twn boyleytwn toy PASOK gia thn periodo 1998, 1999 kai 2000, opoy yphrxan arketes aitiaseis kai apo thn antipoliteysh. Me bash to sxedio ayto, blepw oti qa zhthsei stoixeia synallagwn mexri to 2002. Edw yparxei ena allo qema. Epeidh einai gnwsto oti to Proedreio ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas toy PASOK kai arketoi boyleytes episkefqhkan ton k. Kosmidh kai ton k. Akribakh kai diamartyrhqhkan gi@ ayto, einai enas symchfismos aytwn twn antirrhsewn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo poy bgainei ayto; Isa-isa, poy kaqe xronia, opws anaferetai kai sto keimeno, sto telos kaqe xrhshs, ginetai elegxos. Ara, qa exoyme kai to @97 kai to @98 kai to @99 kai to 2000 kai to 2001 kai to 2002, wste na exoyme plhresterh eikona.

BITALHS: Lew oti o Prwqypoyrgos eixe anaggeilei mexri to 2000 kai mesolabhse mia "parastash" toy Proedreioy ths K.O. kai boyleytwn pros ton k. Kosmidh kai ton k. Akribakh kai eteqh enas problhmatismos gi@ ayto to qema.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai logiko na yparxei problhmatismos. Den eixe kamia sxesh me ayto. Otan kati afora toys boyleytes einai fysiko na qeloyn na enhmerwqoyn. Ekeino poy qelw na epishmanw einai oti shmera to apogeyma, qa doqei h epistolh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, me ena episynaptomeno entypo, sto opoio qa anagrafontai ta akribh stoixeia poy prepei na kataqesoyn oi boyleytes mas. H K.O. toy PASOK me dikh mas prwtoboylia kai panw ap@ ola toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai Proedroy ths, qa proxwrhsei kai qa dwsei ta stoixeia gia thn kinhsh twn synallagwn olwn twn boyleytwn toy PASOK, ta opoia qa klhqei na elegjei h armodia arxh. Perimenoyme apo ton k. Karamanlh kai thn hgesia ths N.D. na prajei to idio kai me toys dikoys ths boyleytes. As mhn krybontai pisw apo asxetes kai anefarmostes tropologies. As proxwrhsoyn kai as apodexqoyn thn proklhsh. As anoijoyn oi idioi toys kwdikoys toys. Kaqe allh prajh qa apokryptei skopimothta.

BITALHS: Ta stoixeia, loipon, qa katateqoyn ston k. Lebogiannh. Apo ekei kai epeita, ton elegxo poios qa ton kanei kai me entolh poioy qa ginei aytos o elegxos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat@ arxas, qa ginei mia prwth epalhqeysh oti ta stoixeia einai ayta. Sth synexeia, qa doqoyn sthn Epitroph twn dhlwsewn toy "poqen esxes" gia diastayrwsh kai h telikh epalhqeysh qa ginei apo thn armodia Epitroph Kefalaiagoras, h opoia exei ta stoixeia gia na kanei thn telikh epalhqeysh kai kaneis allos.

BITALHS: Exei dieykrinistei an qa doqei kai apo poia arxh entolh sthn Epitroph Kefalaiagoras gia na kanei thn epalhqeysh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws gnwrizete, kaqe boyleyths qa ypobalei th dhlwsh kai oles oi dhlwseis qa diabibastoyn apo th Boylh. To aporrhto den isxyei gia kapoion poy to zhta o idios.

GIANNISHS: An ypoqesoyme oti kapoios boyleyths toy PASOK , kaqws hdh shmeiwqhkan kapoies antidraseis gi@ ayto to zhthma, arnhqei na ypobalei ta stoixeia twn synallagwn toy ston k. Lebogiannh, qa lhfqoyn kapoia peiqarxika metra;

PRWTOPAPAS: H erwthsh sas einai ypoqetikh. Pantws, den exw dei kapoio boyleyth toy PASOK na arneitai na ypobalei ta stoixeia. Den exoyme tipota na krycoyme.

ELENOPOYLOS: As ypoqesoyme oti ta dinoyn oloi ta stoixeia kai otan anoijoyn apokalyfqei oti enas boyleyths exei paijei 35 disekatommyria draxmes, ti qa ginei;

PRWTOPAPAS: O elegxos ginetai kai gia na yparjei sxetikh enhmerwsh kai panw apo ola gia na diapistwqei h plhrhs thrhsh ths nomimothtas kai ths diafaneias stis synallages.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Gnwrizete pote qa kataqesei o k. Skandalidhs to sxedio nomoy gia thn epektash ths apagoreyshs twn xrhmatisthriakwn synallagwn peran twn boyleytwn kai se proswpa poy diaxeirizontai dhmosio xrhma, opws exei anakoinwqei kai an yparjoyn aytes oi allages sth sxetikh protash poy qa kataqesei h kybernhsh mesa sto kalokairi;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo o,ti gnwrizw, o k. Skandalidhs etoimazei to nomo gia to neo "poqen esxes", me skopo na to paei sthn Olomeleia. Ekei qa lyqei kai to allo qema. Ola, omws, ayta ta zhthmata qeloyn kai tis sxetikes epejergasies. Me thn eykairia ayth qa hqela na pw, epeidh eida kai orismena dhmosieymata ston Typo, oti safws proxwroyme kai sth doyleia mas gia th genikoterh dioikhtikh anasygkrothsh toy kratoys. Den shmainei, omws, oti eimaste etoimoi. Se ayta ta zhthmata den xreiazontai biasynes. Ginetai mia poly sobarh kai ypeyqynh doyleia.

ELELOPOYLOS: Yparxei sobaro endexomeno, sthn periptwsh poy milame gia chfish toy eklogikoy nomoy, oi nees eklogikes perifereies na sympesoyn me th nea dioikhtikh diairesh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa yparjoyn oles oi sxetikes probleceis.

Sas eyxaristw.

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