Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-07-18

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 18 Ioylioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Eisagwgikws, qa hqela na sxoliasw tis shmerines dhlwseis toy Proedroy ths N.D. gia ton eklogiko nomo kai thn protash toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs gia tis xrhmatisthriakes synallages.

Oson afora ton eklogiko nomo qelw na pw ta ejhs:

"Akribws ayth h atyxhs kai lanqasmenh epilogh ths N.D., na zhthsei dia toy arxhgoy ths prowres ekloges, einai ayth poy anagkazei to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs na akoloyqei ayth th baqia synthrhtikh taktikh.

H protash gia prowres ekloges toys anagkazei na mh metexoyn sto dialogo, se kanena dialogo, na mh metexoyn oysiastika sthn politikh zwh ths xwras, na arnoyntai kaqe eidoys metaboles, na apajiwnoyn, na anairoyn, na akyrwnoyn akomh kai to qesmiko rolo toys sthn politikh zwh ths xwras.

H taktikh ths N.D. qymizei thn arxaia rhsh twn synthrhtikwn ths Aqhnas "ai metabolai lyphron".

Omws, o k. Karamanlhs probainei kai se mia parapera ypokritikh kai epikindynh kinhsh. Prospaqei na ejapathsei ton ellhniko lao, epixeirwntas na taytisei thn protash toy PASOK gia thn allagh toy eklogikoy nomoy me tis ekloges toy 2004, otan einai gnwsto oti o neos eklogikos nomos, symfwna me tis xqesines protaseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy, mporei na isxysei meta thn anoijh toy 2005."

Oson afora thn protash ths N.D. gia tis xrhmatisthriakes synallages, qelw na ejhghsw, giati h protash ths N.D. einai praktika anefarmosth:

H proteinomenh apo th N.D. ryqmish parapempei gia thn apotelesmatikh ths efarmogh, se P.D. oysiastika dhladh stis kalendes.

Oi ypeyqynoi gia paralabh kai elegxo twn dhlwsewn Poqen Esxes orizontai armodioi gia ton elegxo nomimothtas kai diafaneias xrhmatisthriakwn synallagwn. Den diaqetoyn mhxanismoys kai gnwseis pros toyto. Epishs den diaqetoyn prosbash se armodies epoptikes arxes jenwn xwrwn. O monos mhxanismos poy shmera diaqetei tis proypoqeseis aytes einai h Epitroph Kefalaiagoras. H polydiaspash ayths ths armodiothtas qa dhmioyrghsei megalh sygxysh armodiothtwn kai qa einai anapotelesmatikh.

H protash kalyptei eyrytato kai dysprosdioristo kyklo proswpwn, sto mellon kai sto parelqon, odhgei ek twn pragmatwn se diabrwsh ths basikhs arxhs toy aporrhtoy twn xrhmatisthriakwn synallagwn poy isxyei se oles tis xwres kai qa odhghsei sth dhmioyrgia enos klimatos genikeymenhs kaxypocias apenanti stoys qesmoys kai ta krithria leitoyrgias twn agorwn sth xwra mas.

H proteinomenh apo th N.D. tropologia exei pleistes nomoqetikes ateleies, oi opoies qa katasthsoyn problhmatikh thn efarmogh ths.

H apaithsh ypobolhs plhqoys eteroklhtwn stoixeiwn kai pistopoihtikwn gia dienergeia synallagwn qa katasthsei dysxerh kai anefikto ton epaggellomeno elegxo.

Telika, h N.D. proteinei xaotikes kai anefarmostes diadikasies gia na qolwsei ta nera kai na synthrei th laspologia kata toy PASOK kai ths kybernhshs.

Alla, th N.D. den endiaferei h diafaneia kai o elegxos proswpwn poy askoyn oikonomikh diaxeirish dhmosioy xrhmatos, thn endiaferei h synexish ths laspologias enantion ths kybernhshs kai toy PASOK. Ayto prokyptei apo to idio to keimeno ths "protashs". Arage, den endiaferei h diaxeirish oswn askoyn dhmosio leitoyrghma, wste na ejairei para polloys;

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

IWANNOY: An katalaba kala diafwneite me thn tropologia toy k. Karamanlh kai qa hqela na rwthsw ti qa kanete me toys boyleytes toy PASOK poy dhlwnoyn kai epishmws, shmera kai stis thleoptikes kameres oti einai etoimoi na yperchfisoyn ayth thn tropologia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den akoysa kanenan, toylaxiston mexri xqes, oti qa chfisei mia tetoia tropologia.

IWANNOY: Exoyn ginei tetoies dhlwseis. Pws qa to antimetwpisete ayto to endexomeno;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exw akoysei kanenan oti qa thn chfisei. Apo ekei kai pera, ean ginoyn tetoies dhlwseis, einai safes oti qa prospaqhsoyme na ejhghsoyme, mesa apo tis diadikasies ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas mas, giati ayth h protash einai anefikth kai epikindynh kai giati h apofash poy qa lhfqei shmera apo ton Prwqypoyrgo, meta th syskech poy odhgei ek toy asfaloys kai me dikes mas prwtoboylies, se diafaneia twn xrhmatisthriakwn synallagwn.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Protiqetai h kybernhsh na kanei dialogo gia thn protash ths N.D.; Kati antistoixo, dhladh, me ayto poy zhtate ki eseis@

PRWTOPAPAS: Oytws h allws, efoson ayth h protash exei katateqei stis diadikasies, qa apanthsoyme. Emeis den eimaste kata toy dialogoy. Apantoyme sygkekrimena.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Giati eida oti to aporricate hdh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Apanthsa, tekmhriwmena, me bash stoixeia kai gnwsh twn sygkekrimenwn katastasewn. An apo ekei kai pera, xreiastei ayth h syzhthsh na ginei kai mesa stis koinoboyleytikes diadikasies, eimaste etoimoi na thn kanoyme. Sebomaste tis koinoboyleytikes diadikasies kai tis diadikasies dialogoy kai qa yperaspistoyme tis apoceis mas. Nai sto dialogo, nai kai sthn apoch mas.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Ek prooimioy, omws, lete oti h stash sas einai arnhtikh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den arnhqhka to dialogo. Eqesa ta epixeirhmata mas. Exei diafora. Den mporeis na sterhseis se ena politiko komma na qesei ta epixeirhmata toy kai na proteinei kati allo, opws emeis proteinoyme.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn para polles antirrhseis h telos pantwn enstaseis apo toys boyleytes toy PASOK, oi opoioi apo th mia pleyra lene oti proxwrate se dyo poly megales allages, opws einai o eklogikos nomos@

PRWTOPAPAS: Polles antirrhseis kai enstaseis den exw akoysei.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Epishma lete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, den exw akoysei polles antirrhseis kai enstaseis. Den yparxoyn "polles", gia na eimaste akribeis. Mporei na einai orismenoi.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Orismenoi boyleytes toy PASOK, lene oti anoijate dyo megala qemata, opws einai to poqen esxes kai o eklogikos nomos, xwris na sygkalesete thn Koinoboyleytikh Omada, xwris na erwthqoyn kai gia to qema toy poqen esxes, lene oti kaloyntai oi idioi na apodeijoyn oti den einai enoxoi kai oti toys xrhsimopoieite gia na apodeijete oti den yparxei problhma sto PASOK me th diafaneia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayth einai mia apoch poy akoysthke. En pash periptwsei sebastes einai oles oi apoceis, alla oi apofaseis lambanontai apo ta organa mas. Einai mia apofash poy lhfqhke apo to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai to komma thn epikrothse, opws gnwrizete. Apo ekei kai pera, den nomizw oti exei problhma kaneis boyleyths toy PASOK na kataqesei th sxetikh dhlwsh. Exei na krycei kaneis tipota; Oxi, fantazomai.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: H Koinoboyleytikh Omada qa sygklhqei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa sygklhqei o Koinoboyleytikos Tomeas Ergasias (KTE), qa ginei mallon ena anoikto KTE kai qa sygklhqoyn oi boyleytes poy metexoyn sta qerina tmhmata, giati yparxoyn kai praktikes dyskolies ayth thn epoxh h qa sygklhqoyn oi metexontes boyleytes toy PASOK se kapoia apo ta qerina tmhmata, se diadoxikes synedriaseis, me ton armodio ypoyrgo Eswterikwn Kwsta Skandalidh, paroysia toy proedreioy ths K.O. kai toy k. Akribakh, prokeimenoy na syzhthsoyn thn protash allagwn gia ton eklogiko nomo. Einai protash, den einai apofash. O dialogos qa ginei kai mesa sto PASOK. Na einai hsyxoi oi boyleytes mas. Katanow kai sebomai apolyta th qelhsh toys gia symmetoxh kai syndiamorfwsh ths protashs. Ayto einai apolyta qemito kai anagkaio. Epomenws, ayto poy zhtoyn qa ginei, qa ikanopoihqei to aithma toys. Qa yparjei o sxetikos dialogos kai h diamorfwsh ths protashs kai mesa apo thn K.O. toy PASOK. Einai protash, sxedio, den einai kati teliko.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Mhpws eprepe na prohghqoyn oi synedriaseis twn organwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Afoy, xqes molis katelhje h Kybernhtikh Epitroph. Qetei thn protash se dialogo. O dialogos qa ginei kai mesa sto PASOK. Poio einai to problhma; Den katalabainw, giati qa eprepe na prohghqei; Ti allazei; Afoy einai protash, h opoia mporei na beltiwqei se para polla shmeia, piqana kai se ola ta shmeia, ean akoystoyn endiaferoyses protaseis. Oi boyleytes mas qa klhqoyn na symmetasxoyn energa se ayth, qa klhqoyn na diamorfwsoyn ayth thn protash. O rolos twn boyleytwn mas qa einai poly shmantikos sth diamorfwsh ths telikhs apofashs kai qa akoystoyn kai qa lhfqoyn ypoch oles oi protaseis. Poio einai, loipon, to problhma;

IWANNOY: To problhma einai -toylaxiston opws lene orismenoi- oti, epeidh twra exoyme ta qerina tmhmata kai oi KTE qa einai periorismenoi, zhtoyn sygklhsh ths K.O@.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa ginoyn diadoxikes synedriaseis twn KTE. Den prokeitai na katalhjoyme prin apo th sygklhsh ths Olomeleias. Kai ean kriqei oti prepei na sygklhqei h K.O. -den mporw na to jerw ayth th stigmh- ayto qa ektimhqei otan qa eimaste etoimoi gia na ginei mia telikh syzhthsh. Ayto den apokleietai. Ekeino, omws, poy jerw einai oti qa synedriasoyn oi KTE gia ola ta qerina tmhmata, wste na kalyfqoyn oloi. Den biazomaste. Den prokeitai na erqei nomos to Septembrio. O dialogos qa einai ploysios.

KARGOYDH: O k. Liaphs shmera, profanws gia na apotrapei prowrh prosfygh stis kalpes to 2005, ekane mia protash, proleiainontas to edafos ths apotrophs kai eipe oti to komma toy -efoson anadeixqei kybernhsh- einai piqano na proteinei gia Proedro ths Dhmokratias proswpo apo to xwro ths Kentroaristeras kai malista proxwrhse kai eipe oti einai piqano na proteinoyn kai to shmerino Prwqypoyrgo@

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelete na sxoliasw tis proswpikes apoceis toy k. Liaph; Den einai dynaton.

KARGOYDH: Se periptwsh, omws, poy h apoch thn opoia ekfrazei o k. Liaphs yioqethqei@;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den synhqizw na apantw se ypoqetika erwthmata.

KARGOYDH: Eipe oti h apoch toy den antanakla mono@

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to jerw ayto. Mporeite na rwthsete ton k. Liaph, opoios einai enas ejexwn politikos. Fantazomai oti diatypwse tis apoceis toy. Ean rwtate poia einai h dikh mas apoch, se ayto mporw na sas pw eyqews oti emeis qeloyme to 2005 na katalhjoyme sthn eklogh Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. Poia qa einai h protash mas den mporw na pw, giati qa diamorfwqei apo ta organa toy kinhmatos thn epoxh ekeinh. Proqesh mas, omws, einai na katalhjoyme.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: H protash gia ton k. Shmith qa sas ebriske symfwnoys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mhn epixeireite na anoijete mia tetoia syzhthsh, h opoia den exei kamia sxesh ayth th stigmh me thn pragmatikothta. Emeis eyelpistoyme kai pisteyoyme oti o k. Shmiths qa einai kai pali o Prwqypoyrgos ths Elladas.

KALARITHS: O k. Papandreoy, meta th synanthsh toy me ton Prwqypoyrgo, rwthqhke gia ton eklogiko nomo kai apanthse oti se kamia periptwsh den apotelei prospaqeia epibolhs allagwn kai oti milame gia allages poy qa isxysoyn meta to 2005, oyte se periptwsh adynamias ekloghs Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. Exei allajei kati sthn kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: To eipa prin apo ligo. Kathggeila ton k. Karamanlh oti ejapata ton ellhniko lao. Eipa oti emeis qeloyme na isxysei o neos eklogikos nomos, ean ayto einai to problhma ths N.D., meta thn anoijh toy 2005. O Prwqypoyrgos eipe xqes kai to epanelaba shmera oti proqesh mas einai na proteinoyme sto dialogo poy qa ginei na isxysei o neos nomos meta thn anoijh toy 2005. Ean h N.D. den proselqei sto dialogo qa apofasisoyme ti qa kanoyme. Sas exw pei oti sthn periptwsh ayth qa apofasisoyme synolika gia enan eklogiko nomo ton opoio qa qesoyme ypoch toy ellhnikoy laoy. Piqanon na exei mesa kai to 2005, alla den to exoyme apofasisei akomh.

KALARITHS: Allo einai ayto, giati prin apo ligo o k. Skandalidhs, sth synenteyjh toy@

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa oti ayta qa ta doyme ola sto dialogo. Mhn perimenete na kleisw apo twra qemata toy dialogoy. Qa htan atophma. Otan proteineis ena paketo gia dialogo, einai paketo gia dialogo. Otan erqei h wra na katalhjoyme, qa ejhghsoyme giati katalhjame. Den apokleiw na katalhjoyme kai sto 2005. Den to apekleisa pote, alla qelw na eimai poly aysthros se qemata deontologias. Ola einai sto trapezi. Proqesh mas einai na to pame meta thn anoijh toy 2005, an ayto einai to problhma ths N.D. Gi` ayto lew oti o k. Karamanlhs ypokrinetai kai ejapata.

IWANNOY: Mia dieykrinish: Eipate oti meta th syskech qa yparjei kapoia antiprotash se ayth thn protash toy k. Karamanlh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa einai protash gia tis dikes mas kinhseis panw sto idio qema. Apofash mallon, alla aplws den mporw na gnwrizw an qa kleisei shmera h syskech h an qa xreiastei kai nea epejergasia.

POYLIDOY: Qelw na sas rwthsw an kata thn apoch sas to sxedio Anan synista anagnwrish twn tetelesmenwn ths eisbolhs kai ths katoxhs sthn Kypro, opws eipe o Proedros ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias Tasos Papadopoylos.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eipe akribws ayto o k. Papadopoylos. Exei qesei ena sygkekrimeno kai oloklhrwmeno skeptiko kai mhn ton adikeite.

POYLIDOY: Qa sas pw epi lejei th sygkekrimenh protash, oti "to sxedio Anan den synista prwtoboylia, synista anagnwrish twn tetelesmenwn ths eisbolhs kai ths katoxhs kai gi` ayto to logo den mporoyme na to apodexqoyme ws exei".

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai gnwsth h protash ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias oti qelei diapragmateyseis epi toy sxedioy Anan. Ayth einai mia gnwsth protash. An exete prosejei, otan xrhsimopoiw th sxetikh fraseologia, omilw gia epilysh toy Kypriakoy me bash to sxedio Anan. Den leme oti to dexomaste ws exei, giati gnwrizoyme, ws ellhnikh kybernhsh, oti h Kypriakh Dhmokratia qelei diapragmateyseis epi toy sxedioy. Gi` ayto panta xrhsimopoiw ton oro "me bash to sxedio Anan". Exoyme apodexqei, dhladh, thn anagkaiothta syzhthsewn kai diapragmateysewn epi toy sxedioy.

POYLIDOY: Einai dyo diaforetika pragmata@

PRWTOPAPAS: Mhn perimenete na sas apanthsw alliws kai to katalabainete. Exoyme symfwnhsei oti omiloyme gia epilysh toy kypriakoy problhmatos me bash to sxedio Anan. H Kypriakh Dhmokratia exei jekaqarisei oti qelei na kanei syzhthseis, diapragmateyseis epi toy sxedioy kai ayto to exoyme apodexqei oloi. Den xreiazetai na dhmioyrghsoyme allo qema. Ayth th stigmh o antipalos mas einai h allh pleyra, h adiallajia toy Ntenktas.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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