Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-07-08

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 8 Ioylioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

Shmera, o Prwqypoyrgos eixe synanthsh me to Grammatea toy Kommatos Mixalh Xrysoxoidh, o opoios, amesws meta, ekane sxetikes dhlwseis. Ayth thn wra, o Prwqypoyrgos exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn N. Xristodoylakh, ton ypoyrgo Politismoy E. Benizelo, ton yfypoyrgo Politismoy N. Aleyra kai to Geniko Grammatea toy ypoyrgeioy Politismoy K. Kartalh, me qema ta oikonomika twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn.

Ayrio, stis 10 to prwi, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, gia qemata poy sxetizontai me th diafaneia sto politiko systhma. Stis 7 to apogeyma, o Prwqypoyrgos qa proedreysei sth synedriash toy E.G. toy PASOK.

Thn Pempth, stis 10 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn gia qemata oikonomias, paroysia kai toy oikonomikoy symboyloy toy Gkika Xardoybelh. Stis 12.30, qa synanthqei me toys ypoyrgoys N. Xristodoylakh kai Xr. Berelh kai stis 13.30 me ton A. Tsoxatzopoylo, gia qemata toy ypoyrgeioy Anaptyjhs, paroysia kai toy N. Xristodoylakh.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 9.30 to prwi, qa synedriasei h Diypoyrgikh Epitroph gia to Syntonismo ths Olympiakhs Proetoimasias (DESOP) kai stis 12.30 o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs F. Petsalniko.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KOYIN: Exei prokycei kati sta qemata ths DESOP kai einai anagkh na dei toys tesseris ypoyrgoys prin apo thn Paraskeyh h aplws einai mia synanthsh proetoimasias;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai mia kybernhtikh syskech -opws blepete den ginetai paroysia toy "Aqhna-2004"- poy exei na kanei me toys Olympiakoys Agwnes.

MIXAHL: H syskech gia thn Olympiada afora kai to oikonomiko skelos, pws qa ejelissetai o proypologismos apo pleyras xrhmatodothshs toy Dhmosioy. Epeidh sympiptei me mia seira dhmosieymatwn...

PRWTOPAPAS: Mhn ta syndeete.

MIXAHL: Den ta syndew, alla erwthqhkate gi@ ayta, prin apo merikes hmeres, kai den qelhsate na apanthsete. Shmera, omws, mas anakoinwnete oti qa ginei tetoia syskech kai logiko einai na kanoyme ayth th syndesh. Loipon, syndeetai h den syndeetai kai poio sxolio yparxei epi twn dhmosieymatwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Htan apo prin programmatismenh h syskech. Aplws den thn eixa anakoinwsei, giati ekkremoyse h synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy kai den mporoysame na exoyme, xqes, to plhres programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Otan, xqes arga to brady, prosdioristhke h synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, oristikopoihqhke kai to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia olh thn ebdomada. Alla, h syskech me toys ypoyrgoys gia ta oikonomika twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn htan programmatismenh apo thn Paraskeyh na ginei mesa sthn ebdomada.

MIXAHL: Mporeite na mas peite ta kefalaia twn metrwn...

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa ta pei o Prwqypoyrgos.

MIXAHL: Den zhtw to periexomeno, zhtw ta kefalaia, ti qa aforoyn ta metra. Kai erwtw, dioti diabazoyme polla shmera stis efhmerides. Kapoia einai safh, kapoia xrhzoyn dieykrinishs. Toylaxiston toys titloys mporoyme na toys exoyme;

PRWTOPAPAS: Aforoyn th diafaneia toy politikoy systhmatos mas. Qelw na sas parakalesw, epeidh oloklhrwnetai h epejergasia ayth enocei ths ayrianhs synedriashs, na exete ypomonh na ta akoysete apo ton idio ton Prwqypoyrgo. Qelw, epipleon, na sas pw oti h syzhthsh gia ayto to zhthma den qa teleiwsei ayrio. Ayrio, qa lhfqoyn oi prwtes apofaseis kai qa doqoyn oi sxetikes kateyqynseis. Einai ena qema to opoio afora olo to politiko systhma mas. Exei shmasia ayto.

MIXAHL: O Prwqypoyrgos, stis protaseis poy qa anakoinwsei ayrio, sxetika me to eklogiko systhma, prokeitai na diatypwsei protash h qa perigracei systhma;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa exete thn eykairia ayrio, meta th synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, na akoysete ti qa pei o Prwqypoyrgos. Diaforetika poio nohma qa eixe h synedriash ayth. Exoyme mia synhqeia -h opoia den einai panta swsth- na prospaqoyme na proanaggeiloyme h na mantecoyme ti qa ginei thn epomenh sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. To Ypoyrgiko Symboylio synedriazei kai dhmioyrgei politikes, lambanei apofaseis, paragei politika gegonota. Einai dynaton, protoy synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, emeis na prokaqorizoyme ti qa apofasisei; Tote, giati na ginei h synedriash; To Ypoyrgiko Symboylio synerxetai me ena qema, akoyei thn eishghsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai diamorfwnei tis telikes apofaseis, mesa apo mia ploysia kai shmantikh syzhthsh, se kaqe periptwsh. Ayto qa ginei kai ayrio. Einai metra poy aforoyn th diafaneia sto politiko systhma mas. Ekeino poy qelw na sas epishmanw einai oti me bash tis kateyqynseis poy qa apofasistoyn ayrio, to qema ayto qa syzhthqei eyrytera sto politiko systhma mas, me ta politika kommata. Fysika kai me to PASOK. Alla kai me ola ta kommata. To kanw safes. Qeloyme na elpizoyme oti ola ta kommata qa dexqoyn na symmetexoyn se mia syzhthsh poy exei na kanei me thn enisxysh twn metrwn diafaneias sth leitoyrgia toy politikoy systhmatos mas. Otan diapistwnoyme problhmata, otan katagrafoyme problhmata, otan omiloyme gi@ ayta, prepei na exoyme kai to politiko qarros na dexomaste th syzhthsh kai na symmetexoyme stis eyqynes gia thn antimetwpish toys, giati ayta aforoyn oloys mas kai oxi mono to kybernwn komma.

ANTYPAS: Epeidh yparxei diastash apocewn kai kabgas, anamesa stis ygeionomikes yphresies kai sth dioikhsh toy nosokomeioy sto opoio breqhkan ta alloiwmena trofima, mhpws h kybernhsh exei na mas pei kati parapanw; Sas exei apasxolhsei to qema;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mas exei apasxolhsei kai malista sobara. O yfypoyrgos Ygeias Ektwr Nasiwkas episkefqhke, prin apo ligo, to nosokomeio "Andreas Syggros" , prokeimenoy na exei proswpikh apoch gia ta problhmata poy proekycan kai na diapistwsei thn ektash toys. H pragmatikothta einai oti to idio to nosokomeio, otan diapistwse oti yparxei ypocia gia xalasmena trofima, dioti -opws oi idioi lene- yphrje mia blabh sto cygeio toys, kalese toys epoptes ths dhmosias ygeias, oi opoioi ypagontai sth Nomarxia. Phge o idios o nomiatros, o opoios kai synetaje th gnwsth ekqesh. Pera apo ayth thn ekqesh kai gia na mhn yparxoyn problhmata kai diafwnies -emeis qeloyme na lamcei h pragmatikothta kai na apodoqoyn ean yparxoyn eyqynes- o idios o ypoyrgos Ygeias K. Stefanhs phre thn prwtoboylia kai katopin entolhs toy o k. Nasiwkas phge sto nosokomeio. Estalhsan oi epiqewrhtes ygeias toy ypoyrgeioy Ygeias gia na diapistwsoyn ti pragmatika ginetai kai an xreiastei qa diataxqei kai EDE. Se kaqe periptwsh, h kybernhsh qelei na jekaqarisei ayth thn istoria. Na doyme kai tis synqhkes leitoyrgias kai ta tyxon problhmata poy yparxoyn. Apo thn ekqesh twn epiqewrhtwn toy ypoyrgeioy Ygeias kai -an xreiastei- apo thn EDE poy qa diataxqei, qa bgoyn sto fws opoia problhmata yparxoyn, ean yparxoyn kai qa apodoqoyn opoies eyqynes prokycoyn. As perimenoyme tis ekqeseis twn armodiwn. H kybernhsh enhrghse taxista.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Milate mono gia to nosokomeio "Andreas Syggros" h gia...

PRWTOPAPAS: H syzhthsh, ayth th stigmh, ginetai gia to nosokomeio "Andreas Syggros".

IWANNOY: Sthn prwth dhmoskophsh poy paroysiazei shmera to radiofwno kai h thleorash toy ANT-1, meta tis allages sto komma kai thn kybernhsh, yparxoyn kapoia symperasmata, oi prwtes antidraseis apo thn koinh gnwmh. Gia paradeigma, oti to PASOK exei tis idies piqanothtes na kerdisei tis ekloges apanta to megalytero pososto -peripoy 48%- twn erwthqentwn, enw thn idia wra oloi oi chfoforoi kai toy PASOK, alla kai twn allwn kommatwn, symfwnoyn sto qema ths ananewshs, entoytois diapistwnoyn oti me tis allages poy eginan sthn kybernhsh den yphrje ananewsh, toylaxiston ayth poy qa epiqymoysan oi idioi. Qa hqela ena politiko sxolio gi@ ayto to apotelesma, kaqws kai gia thn ayjhsh ths dhmotikothtas toy k. Laliwth, h opoia anebhke kata 10 posostiaies monades, aytes tis hmeres.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa kanw ena geniko sxolio, dioti katalabainete oti den mporw apo th qesh toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy na apanthsw se ola ta politika erwthmata mias dhmoskophshs. Pisteyw oti ena politiko sxolio einai arketo.

Gia na antilhfqoyme kai na antilhfqei olos o ellhnikos laos to synolo twn politikwn prwtoboyliwn toy Prwqypoyrgoy prepei na ajiologhsoyme tis dyo prwtes kinhseis poy eginan se komma kai kybernhsh, alla bebaiws na ajiologhsoyme kai tis politikes prwtoboylies, oi opoies apo ayrio arxizoyn na ejelissontai. Prwtoboylies poy exoyn na kanoyn kai me to politiko systhma mas, alla kai me th sygkrothsh toy oikonomikoy kai koinwnikoy xarth. To synolo twn prwtoboyliwn apotelei mia eniaia desmh: komma, kybernhsh, politikes prwtoboylies kai gia to politiko systhma mas kai gia qemata poy aforoyn ton polith, thn oikonomia kai thn koinwnia mas. O Prwqypoyrgos epeleje na kanei tolmhres kinhseis sto komma. Epishs, epeleje -dioti o politikos xronos einai orismenos kai sygkekrimenos- na kanei mikroteroy xarakthra kinhseis sthn kybernhsh, dioti qewrei oti to kybernhtiko ergo den mporei na perimenei na enhmerwqoyn oi ypoyrgoi. Qelei amesh apodosh -opws tonise xqes kai me ton pio kathgorhmatiko tropo- toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Taytoxrona, o Prwqypoyrgos ekdhlwnei hdh tis politikes prwtoboylies, me prwto bhma ayto poy qa ginei ayrio, sth synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy. Exoyme, loipon, mia oloklhrh desmh metrwn kai kinhsewn, oi opoies prepei na ajiologhqoyn sto synolo toys. Me th desmh aytwn twn metrwn kai kinhsewn, o Prwqypoyrgos pisteyei oti kai h ananewsh prowqeitai kai exoyme th dynatothta kalyterhs apodoshs toy kybernhtikoy ergoy, kaqws kai th dynatothta newn politikwn prwtoboyliwn. Prwtoboyliwn poy qa dwsoyn peistikes apanthseis kai sta problhmata toy polith, alla kai sthn prooptikh kai thn prosdokia poy prepei na exei o poliths apo to komma mas kai thn kybernhsh mas kai gia to epomeno xroniko diasthma. Etsi, xarazoyme kai thn prooptikh nikhs toy PASOK gia tis epomenes ekloges.

Apo ekei kai pera, sxetika me thn erwthsh sas gia ton k. Laliwth, qa moy epitrecete to sxolio oti o Kwstas Laliwths einai ena kefalaio gia to PASOK kai qeloyme oloi na pisteyoyme oti ayto to kefalaio qa ajiopoihqei kai sthn peraiterw poreia mas kai stis politikes maxes poy qa dwsoyme.

KARGOYDH: Pws ajiologei h kybernhsh thn ejodo toy toyrkikoy skafoys "Piri Reis" kai an ayto sas anhsyxei, dedomenwn kai kapoiwn parelqoyswn entasewn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete oti, symfwna me tis anakoinwseis toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, exei prohghqei ths syzhthshs mas entonotato diabhma, se epipedo Genikoy Grammatea, apo to ellhniko pros to toyrkiko YPEJ gi@ ayto to qema. Egine diabhma, toso apo to Geniko Grammatea k. Skopelith, oso kai apo to Dieyqynth Politikwn Ypoqesewn k. Gennhmata pros toys omologoys toys. Entonotato diabhma. Apo ekei kai pera, parakoloyqoyme apo poly konta ayth thn ypoqesh kai qeloyme na pisteyoyme oti den qa yparjei kanena problhma.

KARGOYDH: Oi apanthseis poy phran oi dyo Ellhnes diplwmates apo thn toyrkikh pleyra...

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws gnwrizete, htan kaqhsyxastikes apanthseis. Se kaqe periptwsh, omws, emeis parakoloyqoyme, apo poly konta, thn ypoqesh.

KOYIN: Ep@ aytoy: Htan proforiko to diabhma, apo o,ti antilambanomai.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ej oswn gnwrizw, nai. Kai egine grhgora. Exei thn ennoia ths h taxythta. Ta ypoloipa, an xreiastei, qa epakoloyqhsoyn.

KOYIN: Sth synanthsh, stis 12.30 thn Pempth, toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys kyrioys Berelh kai Xristodoylakh, to qema syzhthshs qa einai oi Olympiakoi Agwnes;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai oi Olympiakoi Agwnes.

KOYIN: Gnwrizete an qa lhfqoyn apofaseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: As perimenoyme tis anakoinwseis. Enocei synanthsewn, as eimaste panta prosektikoi.

GARGALAKOS: Enw h kybernhsh etoimazetai na kanei kapoies qesmikes parembaseis se o,ti afora to politiko systhma, th diafaneia, alla kai opws lene oi plhrofories kai parembaseis poy qa sxetizontai kai me ton eklogiko nomo, katatmhsh perifereiwn k.lp. h N.D., to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs leei se oloys toys tonoys oti kati tetoio den qa ginei dekto, dhladh opoiadhpote parembash ston eklogiko nomo. Ti lete ep` aytoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa htan laqos ayth th stigmh na proanaggeilw opoiasdhpote morfhs apofaseis enocei synedriashs toy anwtatoy kybernhtikoy organoy. Qelw, omws, na pw kati ws qema arxhs: Koptomaste oloi, kai h N.D., peri ths diafaneias sto politiko mas systhma. Idoy h Rodos, idoy kai to phdhma. Einai h wra twn apofasewn. Einai h wra na paroyme oloi tis eyqynes mas. H kybernhsh etoimazei politikes prwtoboylies poy exoyn na kanoyn me thn enisxysh ths diafaneias sto politiko mas systhma. H N.D. qa kriqei apo thn ikanothta ths na symmetasxei se ayto to dialogo, na pei thn apoch ths kai an diapistwqei oti yparxoyn koines apoceis na synainesei se allages poy prepei na ginoyn. An h N.D., sto onoma toy opoioydhpote prosxhmatos, apofygei ayto to dialogo kai protimhsei thn asfalh odo, tis aney stoxoy kai skopoy periodeies toy arxhgoy ths ana thn Ellada, tote kai emeis qa prajoyme ta deonta. Qa apokalycoyme th stash ths ayth ston ellhniko lao kai bebaiws qa proxwrhsoyme stis opoies energeies krinoyme ws aparaithtes se ayth thn kateyqynsh. As mh biazomaste. Edw krinomaste oloi. Kai emeis kai ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs kai oloi oi armodioi foreis. Eimaste nai h oxi yper ths enisxyshs ths diafaneias sto politiko mas systhma; Ean eimaste, anoigei pedion dojhs lampron. Ean eimaste politikoi ypokrites kai ean aplws kai monon katagrafoyme kapoia pragmata gia na ginomaste eyxaristoi sta aytia, ean den qeloyme na mpoyme sthn oysia, ean fobomaste thn oysia kai ean mas endiaferei aplws na gyrizoyme askopws ana thn Ellada qa kriqoyme. Kai qa kriqoyme sklhra apo ton ellhniko lao.

TAKHS: Kata thn apoch sas, me bash ayta poy eipate, h N.D. prepei na erqei se ena trapezi kai na kanei dialogo me ta ypoloipa kommata kai na stamathsei o k. Karamanlhs tis periodeies se diafores poleis ths xwras;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qa poyme emeis ston Karamanlh ti qa kanei.

TAKHS: Epeidh eipate na stamathsei tis periodeies.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qa poyme ston k. Karamanlh ti qa kanei, oyte qa toy ypodeijoyme ti qa kanei. Exoyme, omws, dikaiwma, opws kai ekeinos exei dikaiwma, na krinoyme to periexomeno twn politikwn toy kinhsewn. Den exw dei na prostiqetai tipote apo aytes tis kinhseis sthn politikh zwh ths xwras kai exw dikaiwma na to krinw, opws kai emeis krinomaste.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Peran ths synexeias ths politikhs antiparaqeshs gi` ayto, alla kai gia alla qemata, ti ennoeite otan lete oti qa prajete ta deonta kai se poio plaisio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Shmainei oti exoyme mia politikh kai thn yphretoyme.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Ayto einai sto plaisio ths politikhs antiparaqeshs. Yparxoyn kapoies alles kinhseis@

PRWTOPAPAS: Ennow oxi mono sto plaisio ths politikhs antiparaqeshs, alla kai ths dhmioyrgias kai ths politikhs prajhs.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Mporeite na ginetai ligo pio safhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Se kapoia zhthmata poy h N.D. arneitai na ta syzhthsei, alla ayta prepei na proxwrhsoyn, h kybernhsh den qa analabei tis eyqynes ths; Ayto ennow.

TSEMPERHS: Qa proxwrhsei, dhladh, h kybernhsh xwris genikoterh synainesh, me thn pleiochfia ths kai monon, ston eklogiko nomo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, den milhsa gia eklogiko nomo. Qa hqela na eimaste akribologoi. Eipa gia metra enisxyshs ths diafaneias sto politiko mas systhma, me o,ti ayto shmainei. Ean se kapoia zhthmata gia thn enisxysh ths diafaneias sto politiko mas systhma yparxoyn kai qemata, opws gia paradeigma aytwn twn perifereiwn, einai qema syzhthshs. Den milhsa gia eklogiko nomo. Sas parakalw mh lete koybentes poy den eipa. Milhsa gia metra enisxyshs ths diafaneias sto politiko mas systhma kai eqesa to erwthma: Xreiazontai h den xreiazontai; Oloi leme oti xreiazontai. Efoson, loipon, xreiazontai, emeis anoigoyme to qema kai kaloyme ta alla kommata na erqoyn na koybentiasoyme. Ti qa periexei ayto to paketo qa to kaqorisei ayrio o Prwqypoyrgos, meta th synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy.

KALARITHS: Epeidh to reportaz leei oti kai qema perifereiwn qa teqei, ean teqei, den einai eylogo na ypoqesoyn ta ypoloipa kommata oti sthn politikh sas yparxei skopimothta sto gegonos oti anoigete ayto to qema twra;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa na perimenete to ayriano Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Ebala ena qema arxhs. Yparxei qema enisxyshs twn metrwn politikhs diafaneias; Oloi orkizomaste oti yparxei. Ean orkizomaste oloi, idoy pedion dojhs lampron.

ANTYPAS: Gia na eimaste akribologoi, opws eipate, h kybernhsh einai apofasismenh na proxwrhsei sthn allagh twn perifereiwn@

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exw na prosqesw tipota allo. Perimenete to ayriano Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, dioti apo th synedriash toy mporei na prokycoyn diafora symperasmata. To qema, omws, einai safes: Enisxysh twn metrwn diafaneias sto politiko mas systhma.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Ti einai ekeino poy sas kanei na pisteyete oti eiste peistikoi, otan paramones eklogwn anoigete tetoio qema;

PRWTOPAPAS: Eimaste paramones eklogwn kai den to phra eidhsh;

KANELLOPOYLOS: Eimaste se proeklogikh periodo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eimaste.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Telos pantwn, sth lhjh ths tetraetias.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den kybernatai h xwra, den yparxoyn problhmata stoys polites, den yparxoyn problhmata sto politiko mas systhma; Opws mas zhtate eyqynes otan kati den paei kala se kapoio nosokomeio -kai swsta kanete- me ton idio tropo qa prepei na eiste etoimoi na apodexqeite kai qesmikes allages, opoy aytes einai wrimes kai apaitoyntai.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Afoy kopteste toso poly gia th diafaneia, giati den dexqhkate thn protash nomoy ths N.D. kai thn protash gia ejetastikh epitroph;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ejhghsame diejodika sth Boylh, dia toy k. Skanadalidh, giati diafwnoyme me orismena zhthmata poy mas eqese h N.D. Gia paradeigma sto poqen esxes den apokleisame to dialogo. Einai ena zhthma poy paramenei anoikto kai einai apo ayta poy ejetazoyme. An, loipon, yparxoyn kai kapoia zhthmata poy mporei na ejetastoyn kai na symperilhfqoyn se mia desmh metrwn enisxyshs ths diafaneias sto politiko mas systhma, den mas enoxlei oti mporei na ta exei qijei kai h N.D. Kaqe allo malista.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den ta dexeste, omws, ayta.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den dexthkame th sygkekrimenh desmh, giati se orismena diafwnoyme, opws gia paradeigma diafwnoyme sto qema toy basikoy metoxoy, alla ayto den shmainei oti to aporriptoyme sto synolo toy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Opws kai h N.D. diafwnei, tote, me ta dika sas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Perimenoyme na to doyme. Den lew oti h N.D. prepei h ofeilei na symfwnhsei se ola. Dialogo prepei na kanoyme kai an apo ekei diapistwqei oti symfwnoyme sta misa den einai kako na symfwnhsoyme se ayta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dialogo gia to dialogo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eipa dialogo gia to dialogo, alla dialogo epi ths oysias.

Sas eyxaristw.

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