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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 7 Ioylioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Synedriase, opws gnwrizete, to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio me th nea toy synqesh. O Prwqypoyrgos, apeyqynomenos sta melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy tonise ta ejhs:

"Kyries kai kyrioi, prwta ap@ ola qelw na kalwsorisw ta nea melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy. Toys eyxomai kalh doyleia kai grhgorh prosarmogh kai megalh apotelesmatikothta.

Ayth h synedriash, poy pragmatopoieitai amesws meta thn orkwmosia twn newn melwn, exei, opws synhqws, enan panhgyriko xarakthra. Qa sas dwsw orismenes plhrofories gia ton tropo doyleias kai meta qa kleisoyme th synedriash, gia na mporoyn oi neoi Ypoyrgoi kai Yfypoyrgoi na pane sta ypoyrgeia toys.

To Ypoyrgiko Symboylio qa synelqei kai pali entos ths ebdomadas, otan exw teleiwsei mia orismenh proergasia, h opoia einai aparaithth gia na proxwrhsoyme se orismenes apofaseis.

Apomenoyn ennea mhnes mexri tis ekloges, poy qa ginoyn thn anoijh toy 2004, opws exoyme pei epaneilhmmena. Oloi mas epiballetai na leitoyrghsoyme me taxeis ryqmoys, grhgora kai apotelesmatika se oloys toys tomeis, gia na oloklhrwsoyme to ergo to opoio eixame prosdiorisei gia ayth thn tetraetia. Exoyme desmeyseis apenanti ston ellhniko lao kai prepei na antapokriqoyme s@ aytes tis desmeyseis. Den yparxei xronos gia thn paramikrh kaqysterhsh. O kosmos zhtaei, kai exei dikio, apotelesmata, beltiwsh twn leitoyrgiwn kai ths symperiforas ths dhmosias dioikhshs kai antapokrish stis anagkes toy. Xreiazetai frontida gia ton polith kai qelw na to tonisw ayto. Na katapolemhsoyme ta opoia arnhtika fainomena. Kai yparxoyn arnhtika fainomena, ta opoia katapiezoyn kai odhgoyn se diamartyries. Oi oyres, gia paradeigma, einai ena arnhtiko fainomeno.

Yparxoyn, omws, kai nees morfes paraplanhshs kai ekmetalleyshs kai prepei na tis blepoyme ki aytes. Akoysa pro hmerwn mia nea praktikh kapoiwn trapezwn. Na stelnoyn pistwtikes kartes se proswpa poy den einai pelates toys, den ta jeroyn, ta dialegoyn apo ton thlefwniko katalogo, kai na xrewnoyn meta ayta ta proswpa gia tis kartes poy tis esteilan kai de zhthqhkan kan. Aytes einai praktikes poy den einai epitreptes. Ayto einai ena apo ta paradeigmata poy qa mporoyse na anaferei kaneis. Exoyme zhsei epishs ekmetalleysh sta qemata twn metanastwn, ths prosforas yphresiwn gia na ejyphrethqoyn.

Yparxei ena programma leptomeres, to programma @@Ellada 2004@@. Ayto to programma, opws jeroyme sxedon oloi, perigrafei kata tomea ti qa prepei na ginei, allote poly sygkekrimena, allote bebaia genikotera. Thn efarmogh aytoy toy programmatos parakoloyqw poly prosektika. Me th dikh sas bohqeia, ginontai ejamhniaies anafores, syntassetai enas apologismos kai blepoyme ean proxwrei h doyleia mas kai poy yparxoyn problhmata.

Exw twra sta xeria moy ton apologismo toy teleytaioy ejamhnoy. Yparxei kalh proodos, alla panta yparxoyn kai dyskolies kai prepei na epitaxynqoyn oi ryqmoi, wste na fanoyn ta apotelesmata kai na fanoyn se oso to dynaton megalyterh ektash. Kai ayto einai twra perissotero anagkaio apo pote.

Me oloys esas, opws to eixa, alla twra pio entatika, qa exw synexeis epafes, gia na elegjoyme mazi tis diapistwseis kai na ejetazoyme, opoy xreiazetai to ti prepei na kanoyme. Kai qelw na epanalabw oti, opws to exete zhsei, mporeite opotedhpote na exete epafh mazi moy kai synennohsh. Eimai diaqesimos se oloys kai gia kaqe problhma. Einai aytonohto oti exete thn empistosynh kai thn ameristh symparastash moy. Perimenw apo sas, opws kai o ellhnikos laos perimenei apo oloys mas, polla ayth thn periodo, poy prohgoyntai twn eklogwn. Opoia oligwria, opoia kaqysterhsh, opoia symperifora krinetai. Na to exoyme ypoch mas. Kai sigoyra den yparxoyn periqwria anabolwn.

To kybernhtiko mas sxhma einai aporroia ths pragmatikhs anagkhs gia amesh synexeia kai drash, ths pragmatikhs anagkhs gia na antapokriqoyme sta aithmata toy ellhnikoy laoy. Den sympaqw idiaitera, to jerete, tis syxnes allages sto kybernhtiko sxhma. Merikoi diafwnoyn. Me endiaferei h synexeia, me endiaferei h gnwsh toy antikeimenoy kai ta apotelesmata. Na mh xanetai xronos. Alla an diapistwsw se kapoia stigmh oti einai aparaithth kapoia allagh gia na trejoyn ta pragmata, qa thn kanw xwris distagmo kai qelw na to tonisw ayto.

H kybernhsh mas, to perasmeno ejamhno, xarh sth doyleia poy ekanan ola ta melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, diejhgage me megalh epityxia kai genikh anagnwrish mia dyskolh Proedria ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Eimaste yperhfanoi gia ayto, opws einai kai oloi oi Ellhnes, otan blepoyn oti h Ellada phgainei mprosta. @Opws gia thn Proedria deijame zhlo kai apotelesmatikothta, to idio prepei na kanoyme twra. Na shkwsoyme ta manikia kai na doylecoyme kai aytopepoiqhsh kai sigoyria gia thn epityxia kai th nikh. Na doylecoyme me fantasia kai oxi monaxa grafeiokratika, diekperaiwtika, gia na taktopoioyme kapoia qemata, alla na blepoyme ti mporei na bohqhsei perissotero, ti mporei na exei perissotero apotelesma. Kai h doyleia na einai sklhrh, meqodikh kai na exei pisth. An to kanoyme ayto, qa kerdisoyme kaqe maxh kai telika bebaia ton polemo. Qa ton kerdisoyme. Tote to ergo mas qa anagnwristei apo toys Ellhnes polites me ena qetiko apotelesma kai sthn prosexh anametrhsh.

Gia thn probolh kai thn paroysiash twn apocewn mas, qa prepei apo dw kai pera na yparxei synexhs kinhtopoihsh. Kai qa hqela na anaferw to prwto kai to pio shmantiko. Kykloforoyn synhqws apoceis sthn koinh gnwmh, dhmosieyontai ston Typo, pairnoyn qeseis ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs kai idiws h N. Dhmokratia, epeidh ayto symbainei gia qemata ta opoia exoyn lexqei polles fores kai emeis polles fores den antidroyme, de dinoyme apanthseis. Einai gnwsto, einai kai h apanthsh gnwsth. Den einai omws tipote poy mporei na lexqei poy den ajizei apanthsh. Prepei na yparxei panta apanthsh. Apo th qesh poy exete, se synergasia sto Ypoyrgeio, qa prepei na dinete apanthseis. Qa prepei na pairnete qesh. Qa prepei na deixnete thn prooptikh kai etsi na anadeiknyetai to ergo. Pisteyw oti ayto einai idiaitera shmantiko kai kaqorizei thn politikh antiparaqesh. An akoygetai h mia pleyra giati h allh pleyra qewrei oti ta aytonohta den epanalambanontai, ta aytonohta payoyn na einai aytonohta kai prepei na legontai.

To deytero einai oti qa prepei na episkeptomaste syxna thn perifereia, toys megaloys dhmoys, to Lekanopedio, th Qessalonikh, na exoyme paroysia, giati prepei na perasoyme ta mhnymata mas. Kai den arkei na phgainete sthn eklogikh sas perifereia. Prepei oloi mas na phgainoyme se olh thn Ellada. Exoyme mia diadikasia gia ayth thn paroysia, kanete protaseis ston Ypoyrgo Epikrateias, ton k. Akribakh kai o Ypoyrgos Epikrateias, me to komma, kaqorizei ena programma, wste na apofeygontai oi epikalyceis. Kai qa prepei, qa sas parakalesw, na arxisoyn oi episkeceis apo ton Ioylio kai na yparxoyn kai ton Aygoysto, opoy einai dynato, giati panta den einai dynato, alla einai merikes fores dynaton. Kai bebaia poly syxnotera apo to Septembrh. Pantoy prepei na akoygetai h fwnh mas dynata kai pantoy prepei na yparxoyn apanthseis.

Yparxoyn diadikasies sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio poy yfistantai gia th lhch apofasewn kai qa prepei na akoloyqoyntai me grhgoroys ryqmoys. Qelw na qymisw oti pera apo ola ta alla, proswpika parakoloyqw idiaiterws dyo kykloys qematwn, toys Olympiakoys Agwnes kai to G@ K.P.S., toys Olympiakoys Agwnes me tis synedriaseis ths DESOP, poy qa synexistoyn kai qa synelqei h DESOP ayth thn Paraskeyh. To G@ K.P.S. to parakoloyqw me mhniaies syskeceis, me th morfh allepallhlwn synanthsewn me toys Ypoyrgoys. Kai ayth h diadikasia epishs qa synexistei. Kai ton Ioylio qa exoyme na paroyme shmantikes apofaseis gia to G@K.P.S., opws thn endiamesh anaqewrhsh toy h apla exoyme thn ypoxrewsh kai th dynatothta na to prosarmosoyme, qa prepei na diapistwsoyme poy paei kala, poy den paei kala, poy mporoyme na afierwsoyme poroys, poioys alloys stoxoys mporoyme na petyxoyme. Einai mia shmantikh apofash. Alla qa exw pera apo ayta, giati den ftanei, me toys armodioys Ypoyrgoys synexws koines synanthseis, gia na epispeysoyme to syntonismo, na mh xreiazetai na perimenoyme merika nomosxedia na kanoyn oloklhro ton kyklo twn ypoyrgeiwn, alla na mporoyme grhgora na poyme ti qa prepei na epidiwjoyme. Pera apo ayto, qa synantw kaqe ebdomada to Grammatea toy kommatos, mazi me armodioys ypoyrgoys kata periptwsh. To komma exei ena anagkaiotato rolo. Metaferei sthn kybernhsh tis eyaisqhsies kai tis antidraseis toy koinoy, opws metaferei kai mhnymata. H kybernhsh kaqorizei ierarxhseis kai proteraiothtes, lambanontas ypoch ta dedomena. Xreiazetai ayth h allhloplhroforhsh kai o koinos syntonismos sth doyleia

Epeidh diabasa oti prokeitai na apofasisoyme kapoio dieyqynthrio, dieyqynthria den prokeitai na yparjoyn. Den xreiazontai. To Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai h Kybernhtikh Epitroph qa synedriazoyn taktika. Alla qelw na sas parakalesw na prosejoyme ton kalo syntonismo kai thn kalh synergasia. Den einai mono diko moy qema. Einai qema olwn mas kai xreiazetai synexws prospaqeia se ayth thn kateyqynsh.

Sthn omilia moy sthn Kentrikh Epitroph anaferqhka sto programma ths epomenh tetraetias. Anaferqhka pio sygkekrimena oti gia ton oikonomiko kai koinwniko tomea exei ginei hdh mia ikanopoihtikh doyleia me ena keimeno poy ferei ton proswrino titlo @@xarta sygklishs@@. Ayto to sxedio qelw na to paroysiasw to Septembrh, prin apo th Dieqnh Ekqesh Qessalonikhs, gia na arxisei meta o dhmosios dialogos. Ayto proypoqetei oti orismenoi synadelfoi, se synergasia me ton k. Xristodoylakh, o opoios einai kai o armodios gia ta oikonomika Ypoyrgos, na ejetasoyn ta eidika tmhmata poy toys aforoyn. Qa syntonisoyme ayth th doyleia me ton k. Xristodoylakh kai parakalw na exoyme grhgores antidraseis.

Qa parakalesw epishs -qa kanw ena sxetiko shmeiwma- oloys toys synadelfoys gia alla qemata, poy den emplekontai sth @@xarta sygklishs@@, na moy ypobaloyn mexri telos Aygoystoy ena keimeno me tis programmatikes toys protaseis, giati exoyme keimena, qelw omws na oristikopoihsw ayta ta keimena, bebaiws me synergasia sas, gia na arxisei kai s@ ayta ta keimena me to komma enas dialogos kai epishs enas dhmosios dialogos gyrw apo ta qemata ayta.

Kyries kai kyrioi synadelfoi, h epityxia stis ekloges ejartatai apo mas. Isxyrh oikonomia me koinwniko kratos einai to mhnyma sto opoio sympyknwnontai ta aithmata, oi problhmatismoi kai oi anhsyxies ths koinhs gnwmhs. Ayto qeloyn. Qeloyn isxyrh oikonomia, qeloyn staqerothta, qeloyn bebaiws kai asfaleia. Kaqoristiko gia tis apofaseis toy polith, se sxesh idiws me tis epiloges poy kanei stis ekloges, einai h prooptikh kai to klima empistosynhs. An blepei prooptikh, an exei empistosynh se ayto to opoio fainetai sto mellon, tote bebaiws qa poreytei mazi mas. An blepei oti mia paratajh eggyatai gia ayton ena @kalytero mellon gia ayton kai ta paidia toy, qa poreytei mazi mas. An eggyatai doyleia, perissoteres dynatothtes, antimetwpish twn oikonomikwn kai koinwnikwn allagwn kai propantos asfaleia, tote qa poreytei mazi mas.

Panw se ayta ta qemata prepei na einai ta mhnymata mas, ta qemata ta opoia aforoyn kai exoyn sxesh me thn prooptikh kai thn empistosynh sto mellon kai kyriws thn oikonomikh staqerothta, thn anaptyjh kai to koinwniko kratos, th frontida ths politeias pros ton polith.

Oloi mas jeroyme oti exoyme kanei polla gia th xwra kai ton polith apo thn oikonomikh kai nomismatikh staqerothta me thn entajh sthn ONE mexri th qeamatikh pragmatika ayjhsh twn koinwnikwn dapanwn. Alla apodeijh me epiklhsh sto parelqon den arkei. Sas parakalw na qymosaste panta oti o paratatikos den einai enas xronos poy elkei. Xreiazetai kai gia to mellon na einai orath kai peistikh h qesh mas. Xreiazetai na einai safes oti emeis ejasfalizoyme thn prooptikh mias kalyterhs zwhs kai gia ayto oi polites na exoyn empistosynh se emas. To apodeijame sto parelqon kai qa to apodeijoyme kai pali sto mellon. Na steiloyme loipon toys ypoloipoys mhnes mexri tis ekloges thn anoijh toy 2004 dynato to mhnyma mas, to mhnyma ths aisiodojias, ths aytopepoiqhshs enos mellontos kalyteroy, enos mellontos pio asfaloys gia toys polites

Kalh epityxia se oloys. Eyxaristw."

Na sas pw, epishs, oti meta th synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy o Prwqypoyrgos eixe synergasia, sto grafeio toy sth Boylh, me ton Ypoyrgo Eswterikwn Kwsta Skandalidh. Stis 7 to apogeyma o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei kai pali me ton k. Skandalidh kai ton Proedro ths Boylhs Apostolo Kaklamanh.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

ARGYROS: To neo epiteliko organo poy anakoinwse o Prwqypoyrgos qa antikatasthsei...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den anakoinwse kanena epiteliko organo. Blepw oti yparxoyn synexeis anakoinwseis gia dieyqynthria. Epitrecte moy na sas pw oti orismenes fores exw thn entypwsh oti biazeste. Eixa thn eykairia na tonisw se polloys apo esas, kata th diarkeia toy Sabbatokyriakoy, oti den qa ginei kapoio dieyqynthrio, meta apo entolh toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Parola ayta, ta janablepoyme. Shmera, plhroforhqhkame pali apo ton Typo kai to radiofwno oti dhqen qa synedriasei ayrio h Kybernhtikh Epitroph. Mexri ayth th stigmh poy milame den exei oristei K.E. Mporei kapoia stigmh na oristei, alla ayth th stigmh den yparxei kati tetoio. Qa hqela na sas parakalesw, twra poy jekiname th nea periodo, na yparxei synexhs epafh mazi moy -egw qa eimai panta sth diaqesh sas- wste na mporoyme na kanoyme oloi swsta th doyleia mas kai na mhn akoygontai pragmata poy den exoyn sxesh me thn pragmatikothta.

ARGYROS: Se ayth th synergasia poy proanhggeile o Prwqypoyrgos me toys synarmodioys ypoyrgoys, qa antikatasthsei kapoio organo, opws to epikoinwniako h th synergasia me to legomeno "prwino kafe";

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizw ti epiloges qa kanei o Prwqypoyrgos gyrw apo ta epikoinwniaka zhthmata. Ayto, omws, den einai epikoinwniako. Einai mia synexhs synergasia me to Grammatea toy Kommatos, opoy qa metexoyn, kata periptwsh, dhladh analoga me ta qemata poy kyriarxoyn, oi armodioi ypoyrgoi. Gia paradeigma, an exoyme ena megalo qema poy afora thn oikonomia, qa symmetexei to oikonomiko epiteleio. Gia kapoio allo megalo qema poy afora alles proteraiothtes, qa symmetexoyn ypoyrgoi poy sxetizontai me aytes tis proteraiothtes. Skopos einai na yparxei mia allhloplhroforhsh metajy kommatos kai kybernhshs, me amesh epafh toy Grammatea toy Kommatos me toys armodioys ypoyrgoys, panta ypo thn proedria kai to syntonismo toy Prwqypoyrgoy, wste kybernhsh kai komma na kinoyntai sthn idia kateyqynsh.

TSEMPERHS: Eprepe na fygei o k. Laliwths gia na yparjei diaylos epikoinwnias kybernhshs-kommatos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mhn kanete tetoioy eidoys anagwges, giati einai lanqasmenes. Kaqe nea periodo, diapistwneis ta problhmata poy yphrjan thn prohgoymenh periodo kai ta diorqwneis. Den shmainei oti an eixe parameinei Grammateas toy Kommatos o k. Laliwths, den qa synebaine ayto kai me ton idio. Ejalloy, htan poly taktikh h epikoinwnia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me to Grammatea toy Kommatos, olo to prohgoymeno diasthma. Otan leme oti jekina mia nea periodos, meta thn Proedria, ennooyme oti o Prwqypoyrgos blepei poia problhmata kai poies adynamies yphrjan kai lambanei metra gia na ta diorqwsei. Den einai apolyta fysiko ayto;

KALARITHS: O k. Mpisths topoqethqhke, kata th diarkeia toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, eipe kati;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa perimena na rwthsete prwta, an topoqethqhkan oi ypoyrgoi kai meta gia toys yfypoyrgoys.

KALARITHS: Einai ejwkoinoboyleytikos kai exei idiaitero endiaferon h topoqethsh toy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa oti milhse mono o Prwqypoyrgos. Se aytes tis periptwseis, synhqizetai h prwth synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy poy ginetai meta thn orkwmosia na exei genikotero xarakthra kai lhgei meta thn eisagwgikh parembash toy Prwqypoyrgoy, h opoia bebaiws htan ejoxws politikh. Qa apanthsoyn oloi oi ypoyrgoi kai oi yfypoyrgoi me th doyleia toys. Na eiste bebaioi gi@ ayto.

ANTYPAS: Eipate oti o Prwqypoyrgos epishmane sta stelexh toy oti einai aporroia anagkhs to kybernhtiko sxhma gia na synexistei amesa to kybernhtiko ergo kai oti den qa distasei na kanei allages, an yparjei opoiodhpote problhma. Mporeite na moy metaferete ta synaisqhmata poy epikrathsan sthn aiqoysa, otan o Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti oysiastika einai aporroia anagkhs to oti briskontai edw ayth th stigmh kai den qa distasei na toys allajei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eipe "aporroia anagkhs". Bebaiws, dikaiologeiste, dioti den exete mprosta sas to keimeno. Otan qa to deite, qa diapistwsete oti den eipe ayto. Eipe oti htan politikh epilogh toy, oti exei empistosynh stoys ypoyrgoys toy, oti einai oi synergates toy kai den hqele na diakindyneysei allages h metakinhseis poy qa kaqysteroysan thn apodosh toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Apo ekei kai pera, tonise oti an enas ypoyrgos den mporei na doylecei h an peripesei se idiaitera sobara laqh, den einai dedomenh h qesh toy. Ayto isxyei kai me bash to Syntagma mas.

ANTYPAS: Fantazomai oti den qa eniwsan kai poly aneta oi ypoyrgoi, otan to akoysan ayto. Epeidh eseis hsastan parwn sta Ypoyrgika Symboylia, exei yparjei tetoioy eidoys epishmansh toy Prwqypoyrgoy se synedriash Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy h egine twra ayth h anafora;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exei kaneis apo mas thn ceydaisqhsh oti einai aiwnios ston ypoyrgiko qwko;

ANTYPAS: Den qymamai na exei yparjei tetoia epishmansh. To exei janapei ayto o Prwqypoyrgos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayta einai aytonohta pragmata. Oloi einai synergates toy Prwqypoyrgoy. O Prwqypoyrgos sthn omilia toy tonise oti toys empisteyetai apolyta. Sygkekrimena eipe: "Me oloys esas, alla kai twra pio entatika, qa exw synexeis epafes gia na elegjoyme mazi tis diapistwseis kai na ejetasoyme, opoy xreiazetai, ti prepei na kanoyme. Kai qelw na to epanalabw oti, opws to exete zhthsei, mporeite opotedhpote na exete epafh mazi moy kai synennohsh. Eimai diaqesimos se oloys sas gia to kaqe problhma. Einai aytonohto oti exete thn empistosynh moy kai thn ameristh symparastash moy". Ayta akribws eipe o Prwqypoyrgos.

ANTYPAS: Ayta einai pragmati aytonohta. Ta alla den einai, gi@ ayto kai den exoyn janaeipwqei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai aytonohto oti den yparxei monimothta, opws gnwrizete, stoys ypoyrgikoys qwkoys.

KARGOYDH: Se ayth th diatypwsh toy aytonohtoy toy Prwqypoyrgoy oti einai sth diaqesh twn ypoyrgwn toy kai oti qa epidiwjei kai o idios stenh synergasia, yphrje, eite mesa sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, eite genikws, kritikh ston Prwqypoyrgo oti einai dysprositos stoys ypoyrgoys toy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exw akoysei kati tetoio, an parakoloyqw kala ta MME.

KARGOYDH: Den anaferomai sta MME. Se ti anagkh apanta ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Eimai bebaios oti, me thn taxythta poy sas diakrinei kai merikes fores sas parasyrei se laqh, qa to eixate gracei. An qymaste thn Paraskeyh kanate epta anasxhmatismoys, mexri na ton anakoinwsw.

MIXAHL: Poia qemata syzhtoyn o k. Shmiths me ton k. Skandalidh kai qa synexisoyn to apogeyma me thn paroysia kai toy Proedroy ths Boylhs k. Apostoloy Kaklamanh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Syzhtoyn qemata poy aptontai toy politikoy systhmatos.

MIXAHL: Ennoeite kai apo pleyras diafaneias kai apo pleyras toy idioy toy systhmatos kai ths organwshs toy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws.

MIXAHL: Pote o Prwqypoyrgos prokeitai na anakoinwsei ayta poy syzhtaei me toys dyo synergates toy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa to maqoyme to brady, afoy epikoinwnhsw me ton Prwqypoyrgo, meta to peras twn synanthsewn toy. Opws prosejate apo to keimeno poy sas diabasa qa sygklhqei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio entos ths ebdomadas. Ayto qa kaqoristei meta apo tis synanthseis.

MIXAHL: Syzhthqhke allo qema sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi.

MIXAHL: Sas rwtw dioti yparxei mia syntagmatikh ypoxrewsh ths kybernhshs, oti qa prepei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio na diorisei to neo eisaggelea toy Areioy Pagoy, dioti exei lhjei h qhteia toy k. Kroystalakh. Pote problepetai na ginei ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto qa kaqoristei me bash thn hmerhsia diatajh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy. Pantws, entassetai sthn atzenta twn prosexwn synedriasewn toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy.

TAKHS: Shmera grafei o Typos oti oi sxeseis toy aperxomenoy Grammatea toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy k. Laliwth me to neo Grammatea k. Xrysoxoidh einai apo cyxres ews anyparktes. Isxyei kati tetoio kai an isxyei sas problhmatizei gia thn poreia toy kommatos pros tis ekloges ena tetoio agkaqi;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den nomizw oti isxyei kati tetoio. Ejalloy, opws gnwrizete, yphrje epikoinwnia metajy twn dyo andrwn. Mhn paroysiazoyme kai mh dhmioyrgoyme problhmata ekei poy den yparxoyn. O Typos, ton teleytaio kairo, emfanise efta-oktw Ypoyrgika Symboylia me diaforetikh synqesh, mas anakoinwse diafora qemata ta opoia den isxyoyn, opws dieyqynthria, kybernhtikes epitropes k.lp.. Qa synistoysa -bebaiws panta kai me thn prosoxh th dikh mas kai analambanontas tis eyqynes mas opoy kanoyme laqh- kai se sas idiaiterh prosoxh kai oxi biasynes. Sygxwreste me poy to lew, alla perasame tosa polla ayto to diasthma, alla pisteyw oti nomimopoioymai na to pw.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Mas askeite kritikh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den askw kritikh. Einai filikh, synadelfikh paraklhsh, me anoikth kardia.

BASILOPOYLOS: Mia dieykrinish: Se o,ti afora to programma "Ellada-2004" gia to prwto ejamhno eixame enhmerwqei. To deytero ejamhno einai oses politikes perigrafontai gia thn ylopoihsh toy h einai kai kati prosqeto poy qa to maqoyme tis epomenes hmeres;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epeidh exete qesei, hdh, ena erwthma to opoio kai kratw, opws parathrhsate sto programma, qa diapistwsate oti ton apologismo ton exei hdh etoimo o Prwqypoyrgos. Eipe oti polla apo ta shmeia ayta exoyn ylopoihqei.

BASILOPOYLOS: Qa yparjei kai kati prosqeto, dhladh gia to b@ ejamhno;

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan erqei h wra qa enhmerwqeite.

BASILOPOYLOS: Oi anafores toy Prwqypoyrgoy ston polith kai ta problhmata toy, ektos apo tis oyres h to qema poy proekyce me tis pistwtikes kartes, yphrje kai anafora toy se qemata, opws h akribeia, h agora k.lp.;

PRWTOPAPAS: Endeiktika htan ayta. Bebaiws, h katapolemhsh ths akribeias apotelei proteraiothta mas.

BASILOPOYLOS: To eipe o k. Shmiths ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: To exei pei polles fores. Kai pisteyw oti o k. Koyloyrhs, poy ton gnwrizw kala apo thn eklogikh perifereia moy kai exoyme polyeth synergasia, qa paragei ena idiaitera qetiko kai apotelesmatiko ergo.

TSEMPERHS: An exoyme oloklhrwsei ayton ton kyklo, kai epeidh apo tis proteraiothtes toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai kai oi Olympiakoi Agwnes, shmera merida toy Typoy anaferei yperogkes amoibes stelexwn toy "Aqhna 2004". Exei kapoio sxolio h kybernhsh gi` ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, den exw kanena sxolio. Opws gnwrizete, ta eswterika organwtika qemata toy "Aqhna 2004" aforoyn ton "Aqhna 2004". Genikotera, gia ta oikonomika qemata poy aforoyn toys Olympiakoys Agwnes exei systaqei armodia epitroph poy ta parakoloyqei kai exei epitelesei kai shmantiko ergo se ayth thn kateyqynsh. Isws, yparjei kai synedriash ths to epomeno diasthma.

KOYI@N: Eipate oti o Prwqypoyrgos eipe shmera oti parakoloyqei dyo pragmata, idiaitera ayth thn periodo, toys Olympiakoys Agwnes kai thn poreia toy G@ KPS. Yphrje eidikoterh anafora toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes poy ypagoreyei thn toso stenh parakoloyqhsh toys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai logiko, afoy briskomaste ena xrono prin apo thn ektelesh toys. Einai ena terastio eqniko egxeirhma, me poly megalh eqnikh shmasia, afora olo ton ellhniko lao kai einai logiko o Prwqypoyrgos na synexizei na proistatai aytoy toy spoydaioy egxeirhmatos.

Gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy qa sas enhmerwsw ayrio, dioti se megalo baqmo -kai to jekaqarizw ayto- ejartatai apo tis synedriaseis twn kybernhtikwn organwn poy qa kaqoristoyn.

Sas eyxaristw.

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