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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 10 Ioynioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

ARGYROS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yparxoyn kapoies plhrofories oti h kybernhsh skeftetai na dwsei dikaiwma chfoy se 300.000 Boreiohpeirwtes kai na epitrecei thn epistrofh kapoiwn anqrwpwn poy eixan fygei pros tis xwres boreia ths Elladas, aytoys poy lene Slabomakedones. Mporeite na mas to epibebaiwsete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn sxetikes dhlwseis poy eginan shmera apo ton yfypoyrgo Eswterikwn Lampro Papadhma. Qa hqela, omws, na sas pw oti h kybernhsh endiaferetai na ryqmisei to qema ths diplhs yphkoothtas twn Ellhnwn poy katoikoyn sthn perioxh ths Notias Albanias. Gnwrizete oti yparxei sxetikh diapragmateysh me thn albanikh kybernhsh, h opoia exei perasei apo diafores faseis kai o k. Skandalidhs qa kanei kai kapoia telikh epafh me ton Albano omologo toy, prokeimenoy na anazhthqei tropos ryqmishs toy qematos. Prokeitai gia ena ejoxws sobaro eqniko qema kai katalabainete oloi th shmasia toy. Para polloi apo aytoys toys anqrwpoys zoyn sthn Ellada, edw kai panw apo deka xronia. Gi` aytes tis periptwseis, to qema ths diplhs yphkoothtas einai o,ti swstotero mporei na ginei kai o,ti kalytero mporei na ejyphrethsei ta eqnika symferonta. Den xreiazetai na sas pw perissotera. Den antimetwpizoyme, oyte eklogika, oyte mikrokommatika tetoia qemata. Ejalloy, den pisteyw oti yparxei anqrwpos poy na mila gia eniaia politikh symperifora anqrwpwn, oi opoioi zoyn panw apo deka xronia sthn Ellada kai ligo h poly exoyn enswmatwqei sthn ellhnikh koinwnia. O kaqenas exei tis apoceis toy kai kaneis den gnwrizei poies einai aytes. An h kybernhsh eixe -poy den exei, opws dhlwse o k. Papadhmas- tetoies logikes, tote qa to eixe kanei stis prohgoymenes eklogikes anametrhseis kai oxi twra. Praktika, to mono poy mas endiaferei -kai ayto qelw na prosejete- einai na broyme mia ryqmish poy na ejyphretei apokleistika ta eqnika symferonta mas. Tipota allo. Nomizw oti prepei na proseggisoyme to lepto ayto qema me xamhloys tonoys kai idiaiterh prosoxh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Den egkymonei eqnikoys kindynoys to gegonos oti mporei aytoi oloi oi Boreiohpeirwtes, me th diplh yphkoothta, na erqoyn sthn Ellada kai ayto shmainei oti afhnoyme ena kommati ekei sthn Albania poy toys boleyei@

PRWTOPAPAS: To antiqeto ginetai.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Giati na ginei to antiqeto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Giati, oi perissoteroi apo aytoys einai deka xronia sthn Ellada. Kai shmeiwste oti ean endiaferomastan "kommatika" qa miloysame gia xorhghsh ths ellhnikhs yphkoothtas mono.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kai giati; Den exoyn kalytero epipedo zwhs edw, an qa erqoyn;

PRWTOPAPAS: O skopos einai na mporoyn, gia polloys logoys, na exoyn kai thn albanikh yphkoothta.

TAKHS: Epeidh to qema to anaferei shmera h "Kaqhmerinh", alla yparxoyn kai orismenes dhlwseis apo boyleytes ths antipoliteyshs, ejetazete to endexomeno na paroyn th diplh yphkoothta, alla na mhn chfisoyn se aytes tis ekloges, gia na mh dhmioyrghqoyn kai diafora qemata;

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan enas parei yphkoothta, apo ekei kai pera qa exei kai ola ta dikaiwmata poy exei kai o Ellhnas poliths.

TAKHS: Nai. Alla, to lew gia na mh dhmioyrghqoyn qemata@

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia to an qa paroyn telikws thn yphkoothta h oxi, den einai mono diko mas qema. Einai kai qema ths albanikhs kybernhshs. Oi diapragmateyseis einai poly leptes kai gi@ ayto, as tis afhsoyme na ginoyn me pneyma katanohshs kai apodoxhs ths megalhs eqnikhs shmasias poy exei to zhthma. Anqrwpoi poy einai panw apo 10 h 12 xronia sthn Ellada exoyn ligo-poly enswmatwqei sthn ellhnikh koinwnia. Den nomizw oti mporei kaneis na milhsei gia eniaia politikh symperifora. An einai dynaton! Mh dhmioyrgoyme problhmata ekei poy den yparxoyn. Kai aytoi exoyn tis protimhseis toys, ta pisteyw toys kai tis antilhceis toys, opws exei kaqe anqrwpos. H kybernhsh den exei kamia mikrokommatikh logikh sthn proseggish toy qematos. Xeirizetai ypeyqyna ena poly lepto eqniko qema.

TAKHS: Sas rwtw, epeidh kai stis prohgoymenes ekloges h N.D. eixe dhmioyrghsei diafora qemata, oson afora tis ellhnopoihseis k.t.l.

PRWTOPAPAS: Nai. Eixe dhmioyrghsei diafora qemata, ta opoia oydepote apodeixqhkan, se sxesh me dhqen paranomes ellhnopoihseis k.o.k. Den yparxei tetoio qema. Ejalloy, eixame thn eykairia na to syzhthsoyme polles fores. Den yparxei mikrokommatikh proseggish toy qematos apo mas. Emeis qeloyme na antimetwpisoyme ena qema poy mas endiaferei eqnika.

ARGYROS: Gia to deytero skelos ths erwthshs moy, gia toys Slabomakedones, den moy apanthsate.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi anqrwpoi aytoi -poy onomazete etsi- einai yphkooi alloy kratoys. An ennoeite, an mporoyn na episkeptontai thn Ellada, ayto to qema exei lyqei.

IWANNOY: Einai logiko na yparxei mia, oxi kaxypocia, apo oloys aytoys toys anqrwpoys ean yparxei diplh yphkoothta, apo thn kybernhsh poy qa exoyn eyergethqei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyn aytoi oi anqrwpoi eniaia politikh symperifora; Oi anqrwpoi aytoi einai dipla mas, doyleyoyn dipla mas, mazi mas. Oi perissoteroi apo aytoys, opws eipa, einai sth xwra mas panw apo deka xronia.

MIXAHL: Qa chfisoyn PASOK@

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa chfisoyn ola ta kommata. Kaqenas exei th dikh toy politikh symperifora. Den einai agelh. Epiteloys, eleos!

POYLIDOY: Xqes, egine sth Madrith ena para poly tragiko symban. Dolofonhqhke mia Ellhnida. Dedomenoy oti h ispanikh Dikaiosynh den exei ekdwsei akomh to porisma gia to "Prestiz", mhpws sthn periptwsh ayths ths kakotyxhs Ellhnidas endiaferqei perissotero h ellhnikh kybernhsh na piesei thn ispanikh Dikaiosynh gia th diwjh twn dolofonwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, h ellhnikh kybernhsh den mporei na piesei thn ispanikh Dikaiosynh. Epeidh exw parakoloyqhsei to qema me to "Prestiz", to ecaja, yparxei ena problhma: Opws se ola ta prohgmena eyrwpaika krath, opws eimaste kai emeis, h kybernhsh (kai en prokeimenw h ispanikh) den mporei na apeyqynqei ston epikefalhs ths ispanikhs Dikaiosynhs gia na piesei toys dikastes. Den ginontai ayta ta pragmata sthn Eyrwph. Emeis apeyqynqhkame sto ispaniko Ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs, to opoio, mexris enos shmeioy, mporei na milhsei. Den yparxoyn parembaseis. An oi armodioi eisaggeleis, kanoyn th doyleia toys me ton tropo poy qeloyn aytoi (kaqenas bebaia mporei na toys krinei) den mporeis na toys anagkaseis na kanoyn kati diaforetiko. To ellhniko Ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs parakoloyqei aytes tis ejelijeis. Kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh qa prajei to idio, dhladh qa zhthsei na enhmerwqei. Alla, ta epishma diabhmata ginontai sthn kybernhsh kai oxi sth Dikaiosynh ths xwras ayths. H kybernhsh, bebaiws, enhmerwnei th Dikaiosynh. Ayth, omws, kanei th doyleia ths me anejarthto tropo. Yparxei diakrish ejoysiwn.

POYLIDOY: Katalabainw ti lete, alla sthn periptwsh twn "treins poters" sthn Ellada, eixame synexeis politikes pieseis apo th Bretania gia thn ejelijh ths dikhs. Ayto akribws ennooysa, legontas gia parakoloyqhsh toy qematos.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eixame pei kai emeis tote oti h Dikaiosynh mas den dexetai parembaseis.

POYLIDOY: Nai, alla h kybernhsh dexotan synexeis parenoxlhseis apo th bretanikh kybernhsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai h ispanikh kybernhsh dexqhke apo emas gia to "Prestiz", para polles.

POYLIDOY: Gia thn Ellhnida, qa dexqei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws, qa endiaferqoyme. Einai aytonohto ayto. Alla ayto poy kai emeis eipame sthn periptwsh twn "treins poters" prepei na to sebomaste kai gia ton allon. Dhladh, nai men mporoyme synexws na apeyqynomaste sthn kybernhsh, alla epeidh edw prokeitai gia dolofonia, ta pragmata einai pio eykola, giati emplekontai oi diwktikes arxes kai oxi amesa h Dikaiosynh. Ara, oson afora tis diwktikes arxes, poy einai kratiko organo ths Ispanias, safws kai qa zhthsoyme enhmerwsh kai bebaiws ekei mporei na epitaxynqoyn poly ta pragmata. Ayto qa ginei. Otan, omws -kai anaferqhka prin sto qema toy "Prestiz"- erxetai ena qema ston eisaggelea, ekei (opws katalabainete) isxyoyn oi diakriseis twn ejoysiwn.

GARGALAKOS: Yparxei mia anakoinwsh ths toyrkikhs Polemikhs Aeroporias, opoy arneitai oysiastika thn parenoxlhsh kai leei oti prokeitai gia mia prospaqeia ths Elladas, prokeimenoy na ferei to zhthma sta organa ths E.E.

PRWTOPAPAS: To Toyrkiko Geniko Epiteleio leei kai alla kai qymizei th laikh rhsh "fwnazei o klefths gia na fobhqei o noikokyrhs". Den einai etsi ta pragmata. Ta pragmata miloyn apo mona toys. Yparxoyn synexeis toyrkikes proklhseis. Einai gnwsto, bebaiws, ti epidiwkoyn oi Toyrkoi, me aytes tis proklhseis. Den qa akoloyqhsoyme th logikh ths texnhths polwshs thn opoia epixeiroyn. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, as doyme kai thn pragmatikothta, h opoia qa erqei kai sthn E.E. kai sto NATO, opws ginetai mexri twra kai qa synexisei na ginetai. An h Toyrkia qelei eyrwpaikh poreia, opws toylaxiston synexizei na isxyrizetai o Toyrkos prwqypoyrgos, prepei na katanohsei oti h poreia ayth perna kai mesa apo thn apokthsh symperiforas eyrwpaikhs xwras. Mia eyrwpaikh xwra prepei na kaqisei sto trapezi twn diapragmateysewn gia na lysei to Kypriako. Mia eyrwpaikh xwra ofeilei na sebetai toys geitones ths kai den mporei na dhmioyrgei texnhtes synqhkes entashs kai polwshs. H eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias proypoqetei symperifora eyrwpaikhs xwras. Ayto as to katalaboyn kala kai ta toyrkika stratiwtika katesthmena poy prwtostatoyn se aytes tis logikes kai h toyrkikh kybernhsh, h opoia -se telikh analysh- exei thn eyqynh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: O k. Erntogan eipe ``balte mas sthn E.E. kai meta qa to taktopoihsoyme''.

PRWTOPAPAS: To antiqeto qa ginei. Sthn E.E. eiserxontai xwres poy exoyn symperifora. Ean h Toyrkia qelei na prosxwrhsei sthn E.E. prepei na exei symperifora eyrwpaikhs xwras. Ara, h eisodos ths Toyrkias sthn E.E. perna apo thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy kai to sebasmo toy geitona ths. Den mporei synexws na dhmioyrgei proklhseis kai ojynseis. Emeis bebaiws den tis akoloyqoyme, dioti mas endiaferoyn ta prwteyonta zhthmata. Alla, aytes oi symperifores katagrafontai kai shmeiwnontai kai sthn E.E. kai to NATO.

MPOTWNHS: Me bash ayta poy blepoyme mexri twra, dhladh mia diglwssia apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias, o ``kalos'' kai o ``kakos'', emeis...

PRWTOPAPAS: Epeidh eida shmera se polles efhmerides kapoies aitiaseis -ki egw sebomai tis apoceis poy anaptyxqhkan- qelw na epishmanw pws emeis pote den eipame oti yparxei o ``kalos'' kai o ``kakos''. Sth diplwmatia kai thn politikh ola ayta einai sxetika. Eipame oti yparxei mia kybernhsh kai milaw gia th shmerinh toyrkikh kybernhsh, h opoia jekinhse me safeis diakhryjeis gia eirhnh, synergasia kai eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias. Aytes htan oi diakhryjei toy k. Erntogan. Ayta eipe kai otan hrqe sthn Ellada kai sta organa ths E.E. Yparxoyn kai ekeinoi poy sygkrotoyn to toyrkiko stratiwtiko katesthmeno -me to opoio taytizetai kai o k. Ntentkas- oi opoioi oydepote eipan tipota perissotero h ligotero, pera apo tis gnwstes qeseis toys: polwsh, adiallajia, fanatismos. Perimenoyme apo thn toyrkikh kybernhsh, h opoia ekane antiqetes diakhryjeis na tis ylopoihsei. Diaforetika qa taytistei me ta gnwsta katesthmena kai qa qesei h idia se amfisbhthsh thn eyrwpaikh poreia kai to mellon ths Toyrkias.

MPOTWNHS: Me bash ayta poy eipate, na katalabw oti allazei h rota, h taktikh mas, sthn ejwterikh politikh mas, apenanti sthn Toyrkia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. Ti paei na pei allagh politikhs; Emeis qeloyme thn eirhnh kai th synergasia me thn Toyrkia. Ayto prepei na to allajoyme; Qeloyme thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy sto plaisio toy OHE me diapragmateyseis basei toy sxedioy Anan. Kai ayto prepei na to allajoyme; Giati; Emeis qeloyme thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias, dioti pisteyoyme oti qa einai qetikh kai gia thn Ellada kai gia thn eyryterh perioxh ths Notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs. Prepei na to allajoyme kai ayto; Qeloyme ta metra oikodomhshs empistosynhs poy prowqei to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn stis synanthseis toy k. Papandreoy me ton k. Gkioyl. Ayta symballoyn sthn kalyterh katanohsh twn lawn kai sth dhmioyrgia kalyterwn sxesewn. Prepei na to allajoyme ayto; Akrogwniaioys liqoys ths politikhs mas apoteloyn, h eirhnh, h filia kai h synergasia me th geitona xwra, h metatroph ths eyryterhs Notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs se zwnh anaptyjhs kai synergasias, me meiwsh twn amyntikwn dapanwn, mesa apo thn epilysh twn diaforwn bebaia, h epilysh toy Kypriakoy sth bash twn apofasewn toy OHE, h diakoph ths opoiasdhpote proklhtikhs stashs ths Toyrkias sto Aigaio, h dhmioyrgia sxesewn kalhs geitonias kai h prowqhsh metrwn oikodomhshs empistosynhs. Ayth einai h politikhs mas kai ofeiloyme na th synexisoyme. Ean apo kei kai pera, h Toyrkia probainei se alles kinhseis, eimaste etoimoi na yperaspisoyme ta eqnika symferonta mas. Ean, omws, h Toyrkia probainei se alloy eidoys kinhseis, einai profanes oti h idia qetei se amfisbhthsh thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths. Emeis den menoyme siwphloi, oyte sthn Eyrwph, oyte sto NATO. Pisteyoyme oti h politikh mas poy exei anabaqmisei th qesh ths Elladas sth dieqnh koinothta, ws dynamhs staqerothtas, anaptyjhs kai empistosynhs sthn perioxh, poy exei anadeijei to dikaio twn ellhnikwn qesewn, poy exei odhghsei th dieqnh koinothta sth sthrijh ths ellhnikhs ejwterikhs politikhs, einai politikh poy prepei na synexistei.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: O k. Erntogan elege kai kati allo poy xrhzei apanthshs. Anaferomenos sto Kypriako eipe oti, meta to nayagio ths Xaghs, tis eyqynes tis ferei h ellhnikh kybernhsh kai o k. Shmiths proswpika, o opoios stamathse tis diapragmateyseis.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas parapempw sthn paroimia poy anefera prohgoymenws.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw ean ektimate ws piqano to endexomeno enos qermoy epeisodioy sto Aigaio, oxi san apotelesma texnikwn laqwn h otidhpote opws akoyme tis teleytaies hmeres, alla san kynhgi enos politikoy stoxoy, apo thn allh pleyra. Giati polles fores to exete ypainixqei ki eseis se ayth thn aiqoysa.

PRWTOPAPAS: Periegraca safws kai thn antilhch gyrw apo ta zhthmata kai thn politikh mas. Apo kei kai pera exw thn entypwsh oti h Toyrkia, oso kai an emfanizetai prokaloysa oso kai an epimenei na dhmioyrgei deytereyonta metwpa kai texnhth ojynsh, antilambanetai kai h idia tis eyqynes ths.

IWANNOY: Den eqelotyfloyme se ayto to zhthma, dedomenoy oti h Toyrkia den allazei kaqoloy th symperifora ths kai emeis epimenoyme sthn idia politikh, blepontas oti den karpoforei apo thn pleyra ths geitonikhs xwras; Perimenoyme apo thn E.E. na malwsei thn Toyrkia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exei yparjei periptwsh parabiashs, sthn opoia na mhn exoyme dwsei apanthsh; Aporw me merikes ektimhseis poy ginontai.

IWANNOY: Milw gia th synolikh politikh, den lew gia kaqe mia jexwrista.

PRWTOPAPAS: Synolikh politikh. Poia einai, dhladh, h allh politikh poy proballetai apo kapoia allh pleyra, kai den thn gnwrizoyme;

IWANNOY: Polla stelexh sas lene oti prepei na einai poly pio sklhrh h kybernhsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan lete sklhrh na jekaqarisoyme ti ennooyme, giati den exw akoysei tipota sygkekrimeno. Eimaste sklhroi stis prajeis, sthn yperaspish twn eqnikwn symferontwn mas. Taytoxrona, eimaste prosextikoi gia na dhmioyrgoyme qetikoys dieqneis sysxetismoys kai na yposthrizoyme tis qeseis mas, mesa apo ayth thn politikh, ekei poy prepei. H ennoia ``sklhros'' den exei na kanei me prospaqeies entypwsiasmoy. Aytos poy kanei prospaqeies entypwsiasmoy kai xanei thn oysia den ejyphretei thn politikh toy. H politikh entypwsewn sta ejwterika qemata exei braxybies epiptwseis kai den blepei to mellon. H politikh mporei na einai poly sklhrh se sxesh me ton pyrhna ths, poy einai h ejyphrethsh twn eqnikwn symferontwn. Mporei na einai apotelesmatikh, oso anaptyssetai, oso dhmioyrgei dieqneis sysxetismoys, oso apodeiknyei oti einai fileirhnikh, to katagrafei kai to anadeiknyei, oso sthrizetai kai ws sthrizomenh, epikratei. Ayth einai h politikh poy fernei apotelesmata sto dieqnes pedio. Pws mphke h Kypros sthn E.E.; Yphrxe kaneis, prin apo 10 xronia, poy ean legame oti h Kypros qa entaxqei sthn E.E. xwris asteriskoys kai yposhmeiwseis, xwris na exei lyqei to politiko problhma ths, qa to pisteye; Oydeis. Ki omws ta kataferame. Anarwthqhkate, pws;

IWANNOY: Dhladh, na mhn perimenoyme ta stelexh poy exoyn aytes tis apoceis sto PASOK na ypoyrgopoihqoyn ston epikeimeno anasxhmatismo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ti einai ayta ta pragmata. Sas parakalw!! Gnwrizete oti to PASOK dexetai thn ekfrash olwn twn apocewn, employtizei thn politikh toy me aytes tis apoceis kai ypologizei tis apoceis olwn twn stelexwn toy. Etsi ginetai kai se kaqe dhmokratiko komma.

GARGALAKOS: Exoyme toys boyleytes toy PASOK poy eklegontai sto ypoloipo Attikhs kai oxi mono, giati yparxei kai mia boyleyths toy SYN, na zhtoyn oysiastika apo thn kybernhsh na stamathsei th xwroqethsh poy etoimazetai, mesw ths tropologias, ths kas B. Papandreoy. Ti apanthsh exei h kybernhsh ep aytoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh epiqymei th lysh enos problhmatos poy talanizei to Lekanopedio kai ta ekatommyria twn katoikwn toy, gia polla xronia. Einai apofasismenh na fqasei sth lysh ayth, na xwroqethqoyn oi XYTA. Apo kei kai pera, dialogos ginetai kai qa synexistei. Ejalloy, ena apo ta shmeia poy proteinoyn oi synadelfoi sto keimeno toys, dhladh, h dynatothta na systhnoyn oi OTA dikoys toys syndesmoys gia th diaxeirish twn aporrimmatwn, ej oswn exw plhroforhqei apo to YPEXWDE, perilambanetai sthn tropologia ths kas Papandreoy. Se kaqe periptwsh h lysh prepei na proxwrhsei, prepei na ginei gegonos ton Aygoysto. Den mporoyme na synexisoyme na adiaforoyme gia to problhma ths ygeias twn 4,5 ekatommyriwn katoikwn toy Lekanopedioy. Einai qema poy afora thn ellhnikh koinwnia. Katanooyme kai sebomaste tis anhsyxies. Dinoyme oles tis aparaithtes eggyhseis. Dinoyme th dynatothta kai stoys OTA ths perioxhs na anaptyjoyn toys dikoys toys syndesmoys gia th diaxeirish twn aporrimmatwn. Se kaqe periptwsh, omws, kai me th syzhthsh poy qa ginei sth Boylh (thn opoia den mporw na prokaqorisw) ws genikoterh politikh kateyqynsh exoyme th qesh oti to qema qa proxwrhsei, oi XYTA qa xwroqethqoyn, lysh qa doqei.

KARGOYDH: Na epistrecw sto qema ths anakoinwshs toy toyrkikoy Genikoy Epiteleioy Aeroporias. Anaferei sygkekrimena to anakoinwqen oti h toyrkikh pleyra den apodexetai to gegonos oti xqes parenoxlhqhke politiko aeroplano ths O.A. kai sygkekrimena leei oti...

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa mas ekane entypwsh, ean to apodexotan. Den einai eidhsh oti den to apodexqhke. Eidhsh qa htan ean to apodexotan.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kai ean rijei ena aeroplano kai den to apodexqei, ti qa kanoyme;

PRWTOPAPAS: Jeroyme poly kala ti qa kanoyme. Exw pei, hdh, gia thn anakoinwsh, oti moy qymizei th rhsh ``fwnazei o klefths gia na fobhqei o noikokyrhs''.

LAMPRAKOS: Exete enhmerwqei gia enan Ellhna poy kathgoreitai, sth Roymania, gia laqremporio, alla feretai kai ws praktoras mystikwn yphresiwn; Sas exei enoxlhsei, isws, h roymanikh kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exw plhroforhqei kati tetoio.

LAMPRAKOS: Yparxei kai ena allo dhmosieyma shmera, gia ta erga kai hmeres toy k. Karaxalioy sta ELPE kai grafoyn oti den ejyphrethse me ton kalytero tropo ta symferonta toy ellhnikoy dhmosioy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Apoceis. Sthn Ellada, opws gnwrizete, exoyme Dhmokratia kai o kaqenas mporei na leei thn apoch toy.

LAMPRAKOS: Yparxoyn kasetes, leei, poy...

PRWTOPAPAS: Opoios exei otidhpote, jerei thn odo. H odos einai gnwsth. Na paei sth Dikaiosynh.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Eseis pantws dikaiwqhkate.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai gnwsto.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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