Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-06-09

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 9 Ioynioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

@Apo tis 12 to meshmeri, o Prwqypoyrgos exei synanthsh me to Syndesmo Ellhnikwn Biomhxaniwn, paroysia toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn Nikoy Xristodoylakh.

@Stis 2 to meshmeri, qa synanthqei me ton ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs Mixalh Xrysoxoidh, gia ta qemata asfaleias, idiaitera kata th diarkeia ths Synodoy Koryfhs.

@Stis 7 to apogeyma, qa exei synanthsh me thn hgesia twn ypoyrgeiwn Ejwterikwn kai Typoy gia qemata ths Synodoy Koryfhs ths Qessalonikhs-Xalkidikhs.

@Ayrio to prwi, qa anaxwrhsei gia th Xagh. Oles oi synanthseis qa einai me toys omologoys toy Prwqypoyrgoys twn xwrwn-melwn, me ejairesh ayth me thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, poy qa synanthqei me ton k. Pronti kai thn hgesia ths.

@Thn Tetarth, qa metabei stis Bryjelles, opoy qa exei synanthsh me thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph.

@Thn Pempth, qa exei synanthsh me to Belgo kai Loyjemboyrgiano Prwqypoyrgo.

@Thn Paraskeyh, qa metabei sto Berolino kai qa exei synanthsh me ton Germano Kagkelario Gkerxarnt Srenter.

@To Sabbato, qa exei synanthsh me ton aystriako Prwqypoyrgo. To brady toy Sabbatoy, o Prwqypoyrgos qa epistrecei sthn Aqhna.

@Thn Trith (17/6), o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei thn teleytaia synanthsh sto "gyro twn prwteyoyswn" me ton Italo Prwqypoyrgo Silbio Mperloyskoni, sth Rwmh.

@Thn Tetarth (18/6), to brady, o Prwqypoyrgos qa anaxwrhsei gia th Xalkidikh.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Eimai ypoxrewmenos, kaqe hmera sxedon, na sas qetw peripoy to idio erwthma, alla eyelpistw kapote na mhn pairnw thn idia apanthsh. H ypoqesh twn Strobiliwn xeirotereyei kaqhmerina. Sas to exw anaferei. Oi Toyrkoi ekocan kai to nero kai to reyma stoys katoikoys, gegonos poy egkymonei megaloys kindynoys. Deyteron, thn Paraskeyh eixame 145 parabaseis kai parabiaseis toy enaerioy xwroy ths Elladas...

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai shmera eixame.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Mprabo, pros timh sas. Yparxei, loipon, diaxyth entypwsh oti kati etoimazoyn oi Toyrkoi. Ayto to lene pleon apantes, akoma kai o Amerikanos presbhs sthn Aqhna k. Miler. Sas qetw to erwthma, ti kanoyme;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw kat` arxas na katadikasw me ton pio kathgorhmatiko tropo th shmerinh proklhtikh stash toy toyrkikoy stratiwtikoy katesthmenoy poy, me dyo F-16, parenoxlhse ellhniko aeroplano ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias, to opoio ekteloyse th diadromh Aqhnwn-Kwnstantinoypolhs. H energeia ayth deixnei thn proklhtikothta toy toyrkikoy stratiwtikoy katesthmenoy kai thn prospaqeia toy na prokalesei texnhth entash, wste na strecei to endiaferon makria apo ta pragmatika problhmata kai na mporesei na dhmioyrghsei oroys arshs ths politikhs apomonwshs sthn opoia brisketai h Toyrkia, enanti kai ths E.E. kai ths dieqnoys koinothtas. Fysika, kai den qa paijoyme to paixnidi toy toyrkikoy stratiwtikoy katesthmenoy. Katadikazoyme aytes tis proklhseis me ton pio kathgorhmatiko tropo. Qa synexisoyme staqera na exoyme strammeno to endiaferon mas sta kyria problhmata, ta opoia anagkazoyn toys Toyrkoys stratiwtikoys na proxwroyn se aytes tis aparadektes proklhseis. Qa synexisoyme na exoyme strammeno to endiaferon mas sthn epilysh twn diaforwn, mesw ths dieqnoys koinothtas, me prwto qema thn epilysh toy politikoy problhmatos sthn Kypro. Pisteyw oti h politikh mas ayth ston tomea ths ejwterikhs politikhs einai idiaitera petyxhmenh, apodidei kai bebaiws qa th synexisoyme kai qa th feroyme se peras.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Gia ta Strobilia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia ta Strobilia isxyoyn oi prohgoymenes dhlwseis moy.

ANTYPAS: Egine kapoio diabhma gia th shmerinh parenoxlhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa ginei mesw twn armodiwn yphresiwn. Exoyn enhmerwqei, h E.E. kai to NATO kai bebaiws qa enhmerwqei kai o ICAO pros ton opoio qa ginei to diabhma, mesw ths Politikhs Aeroporias.

MIXAHL: Dexeste mia kritikh, oti se ayth thn proklhtikothta twn Toyrkwn den deixnete mia dynamikh antidrash...

PRWTOPAPAS: Poia einai h dynamikh antidrash;

MIXAHL: Epitrecte moy na diatypwsw thn erwthsh moy. H dynamikh antidrash profanws den einai na kanoyme ta idia poy kanoyn oi Toyrkoi h na toys rijoyme kapoio aeroplano. H dynamikh antidrash qa htan, kata kapoioys poy sas askoyn kritikh kai sthn antipoliteysh, na kalesei ton Toyrko presbh sthn Ellada o k. Papandreoy kai na toy ypobalei grapto ypomnhma, efistwntas thn prosoxh toy. Periorizetai se diplwmatika diabhmata yphresiakoy typoy poy ayta, eite den apodidoyn, eite, kata thn idia pantote logikh, oi Toyrkoi ta agnooyn kai synexizoyn thn proklhtikothta toys. Ti apantate se ayta;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi Toyrkoi epithdes probainoyn se aytes tis proklhseis. To xeirotero poy qa exoyme na kanoyme einai na paijoyme to paixnidi toys, na parasyrqoyme se texnhth entash. Oi Toyrkoi einai apomonwmenoi ayth th stigmh. Kindyneyei h eyrwpaikh poreia toys, ejaitias ths aparadekths kai adiallakths politikhs poy akoloyqoyn sto Kypriako. H dieqnhs koinothta anagnwrizei to dikaio twn ellhnikwn isxyrismwn kai epiqymei kai thn epilysh toy politikoy problhmatos ths Kyproy, mesa apo tis diadikasies poy exei prowqhsei o OHE. Oloi gnwrizoyn oti h eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias perna mesa apo thn epilysh toy kypriakoy problhmatos. To toyrkiko stratiwtiko katesthmeno den qelei ayth thn poreia. Prokalei epithdes kai prospaqei na dhmioyrghsei deyterogenh metwpa, na strecei ekei to endiaferon, na dhmioyrghsei texnhth entash kai ekei na breqei se pleonektikoterh qesh diapragmateyshs. Fysika kai den qa akoloyqhsoyme. Yperaspizomaste ta eqnika symferonta mas. Ayto einai apolytws safes. Einai apolytws safes oti h toyrkikh proklhtikothta den ginetai apodekth kai den qa perasei. Synexizoyme thn politikh mas ston tomea ths ejwterikhs politikhs poy ferei karpoys kai etsi qa synexisoyme.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Blepoyme tis teleytaies hmeres oti epimelws diaxwrizete toys Toyrkoys strathgoys, to toyrkiko stratiwtiko katesthmeno opws lete, apo tis epiloges ths toyrkikhs kybernhshs se sxesh me thn epiqetikh politikh twn Toyrkwn, to teleytaio diasthma. Qa hqela na moy peite, ean qewreite oti se ayta ta zhthmata, poy den einai ta legomena ``xamhlhs politikhs'', h toyrkikh kybernhsh exei xasei ton elegxo. Qewreite oti exei xasei ton elegxo h toyrkikh kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporoyme na jeroyme poioi einai oi sysxetismoi kai pws o enas sysxetismos epidra ston allon. Gnwrizoyme, omws, ton pyrhna apo ton opoio ekporeyetai ayth h politikh. Kai ton onomasame. As kanei tis epiloges ths h politikh hgesia ths Toyrkias. Qelei h oxi thn entajh sthn E.E.; Ean th qelei, prepei na labei ta metra ths. Ean den th qelei kai synexizei ayth thn adiallakth stash h taytizetai me to stratiwtiko katesthmeno, qa erqei se antiqesh me ton idio to lao ths kai tis diakhryjeis ths.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Otan o k. Gkioyl, enwpion toy k. Papandreoy stis Bryjelles, leei kaqara kai jastera, oti emeis apodexomaste mono ta 6 milia sthn Ellada kai o k. Papandreoy den toy leei tipota, ayto apotelei swsth politikh;

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Papandreoy toy exei pei para polla. Exei enhmerwsei kai to NATO kai thn E.E. O k. Papandreoy akoloyqei, ws ypeyqynos ths ellhnikhs ejwterikhs politikhs -kai pantote se synennohsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo- mia politikh poy apodidei, poy prosferei, poy anabaqmizei th dieqnh qesh ths xwras kai ayth thn politikh qa synexisoyme.

KARGOYDH: Epeidh, akribws, sthn politikh sas analysh ws kybernhsh diaxwrizete to stratiwtiko katesthmeno apo thn politikh kybernhsh...

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa oti h kybernhsh ofeilei na analabei tis eyqynes ths.

KARGOYDH: Symfwnoi. Ean dexqoyme, loipon, oti yparxoyn diaforopoihseis, gia to Kypriako, exete ypoch sas kapoia diaforopoihsh, oson afora th stash ths hgesias ths Agkyras;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den anazhtoyme diaforopoihseis. Onomasame ton pyrhna poy ekporeythke arxikws h adiallakth politikh. Einai safes oti kai h politikh hgesia ths Toyrkias, me thn opoia bebaiws synomiloyme, ofeilei na apofasisei, ean qa einai synephs stis arxikes diakhryjeis ths h ean qa akoloyqhsei mia politikh, h opoia qa taytistei me o,ti pio antidrastiko kai adiallakto yparxei. Ayto qa thn krinei. Qelw na qymisw oti oi diakhryjeis ths htan diaforetikes.

KWNSTANTHS: Mas anakoinwsate to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto gyro twn prwteyoyswn kai ap oti katalaba einai to teliko. Den yparxei, omws, tajidi sthn Ispania. Ti symbainei; Den qa ginei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws gnwrizete eixe prosdioristei h synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Ispano omologo toy k. Aqnar, prin apo merikes ebdomades sth Madrith. O k. Aqnar zhthse na mhn pragmatopoihqei ayth h synanthsh kai na anablhqei, dioti eixan topikes ekloges. Telika, par` oti epanhlqe o k. Aqnar, den breqhke diaqesimh hmeromhnia kai etsi opws synhqizetai se aytes tis periptwseis, kalyfqhke h synanthsh me thn Ispania, mesw synanthshs poy eixe o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy me thn Ispanida omologo toy ka Palaqio. Gnwrizete oti twra poy eimaste ``25'', orismenes fores synhqizetai ayto. Oi synanthseis ginontai kai se epipedo ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn.

MIXAHL: Eixame to Sabbatokyriako diafores dhmoskophseis. Aytes deixnoyn oti, ektos apo th diafora me th N.D, thn opoia endexomenws na perimenate, se kairia laika qemata, anergia, akribeia, kaqhmerinothta, paideia, ygeia, k.t.l., h N.D. katagrafetai oti mporei na ta diaxeiristei kalytera. Se poio baqmo ayta sas problhmatizoyn; Exete kati na mas proideasete gia to pws qa jeperasete ayth thn arnhtikh eikona poy emfanizei h kybernhsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai gnwsth h politikh mas kai to endiaferon mas gia thn kalyterh dynath apodosh ths. H politikh ayth mporei na prosferei sth xwra kai thn empisteyontai oi polites. Prosdokoyn, omws, ta apotelesmata ths. Ara, emeis prepei na eimaste akomh pio taxeis kai apotelesmatikoi sthn efarmogh ths kai sthn anaptyjh twn apotelesmatwn ths. H koinwnia exei problhmata kai h politikh einai ayth poy mporei na odhghsei sth lysh toys. Ayto kanoyme kaq qa synexisoyme na kanoyme. Einai sigoyro oti qa feroyme se peras to ergo poy exoyme analabei, antapokrinomenoi se ayto poy mas zhtoyn oi polites.

Eipa, xqes, oti orismenes apo aytes tis dhmoskophseis exoyn ginei se parelqonta politiko xrono. Den einai idies oi synqhkes poy exoyn diamorfwqei shmera apo aytes poy epikratoysan prin apo ena h enamish mhna. Shmera, exoyme anakthsei thn prwtoboylia twn politikwn kinhsewn kai ayto apodeixqhke kai apo th syzhthsh sth Boylh.

H N.D. den mporei na synexisei na dhmioyrgei mia zoferh eikona ston topo, milwntas gia qemata skandalologias h dhqen diafqoras kai diaplokhs, exontas -an qelete- kai enoxo ton eayto ths, opws apodeixqhke. Ayto einai mia rizika poiotikh diafora. Exoyme mia allh eikona. Lyqhkan ta problhmata; Bebaia, oxi. Omws, h kybernhsh exei tis politikes prwtoboylies sta xeria ths. Exoyme th dynamh, th qelhsh kai thn ikanothta na antapokriqoyme se ayto poy mas zhtoyn oi polites kai etsi qa synexisoyme. O Kwstas Shmiths, stis analyseis poy exoyn ginei, paramenei to isxyro xarti mas kai ayto einai poly shmantiko. Qelw na parathrhsete oti einai se prwtofanh ych h syspeirwsh toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, kati poy fysika den symbainei me to PASOK, toy opoioy to pososto syspeirwshs katagrafetai poly xamhlotero. H N.D. den proballei kapoia diaforetikh lysh, kapoia allh protash, mia allh prooptikh gia ta problhmata. Qa hqela idiaitera na epishmanw, ayto poy eipa kai proxqes, oti o k. Karamanlhs, otan kanei tis omilies toy, qymizei dhmosiografo prwinhs zwnhs. Aplws, katagrafei thn epikairothta kai anazhta apanthseis apo alloys. Kai to lew ayto, giati eida shmera ena kalopisto sxolio se efhmerida. Den einai kako ayto apo to dhmosiografo, giati aytos einai o rolos toy. Einai, omws, poly kako gia ton politiko. O politikos den einai analyths, wste na anazhta apanthseis apo alloys. Prepei na dinei o idios tis apanthseis. O k. Karamanlhs symperiferetai yperbatika. Bebaiws, yparxoyn problhmata, alla emeis qa ta lysoyme. Ekeinos, sthn oysia, apodexetai oti den mporei. Akoygontai yperboles toy typoy "sthn Ellada eimaste xeirotera apo to Lagos ths Nighrias". Ayth den einai aplh yperbolh. Einai mia antilhch ths N.D. kai toys arxhgoy ths, poy qeloyn na ta isopedwsoyn ola. Ola gkriza kai mayra. Na mhn yparxei tipota orqio sthn Ellada. Den qa toys kanoyme ayth th xarh, giati den einai ayth h pragmatikothta. Den eimaste Lagos kai fysika den mporei pote na ginoyme, ektos an h N.D. "filodojei" na kanei kati tetoio.

MIXAHL: Wstoso, den payei na yparxei mia pragmatikothta. Kat` arxas, oles oi dhmoskophseis kinoyntai se parelqonta xrono, den exei breqei kapoio montelo gia to mellon. Kai deyteron@

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan eipa "parelqonta xrono", katalabainete ti ennow. Den einai idia h katastash poy diamorfwqhke, meta apo th syzhthsh sth Boylh kai thn omilia toy Kwsta Shmith sthn koinh synedriash ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas kai ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs, kai prin apo aythn. To exete gracei ayto stis analyseis poy exw diabasei to teleytaio diasthma. Apo thn koinh synedriash ths K.E. kai ths K.O., poy anadeixqhke h syspeirwsh toy kybernwntos kommatos kai sth synexeia apo th syzhthsh poy egine sth Boylh, exei katapesei, ws xartinos pyrgos, ena oikodomhma poy esthse h N.D.. Exei anadeixqei oti to PASOK kai o Kwstas Shmiths kratoyn thn prwtoboylia twn ejelijewn. Exoyme, loipon, perasei se mia allh fash, h opoia den exei katagrafei. Se ayth th fash poy exoyme perasei, bebaiws exoyme mprosta mas ta megala problhmata ths koinwnias. Exoyme omws, opws eipa, kai th dynamh kai th qelhsh kai thn ikanothta na antapokriqoyme se ayto poy perimenei kai zhta o laos apo mas kai na lysoyme ayta ta problhmata. Giati, aytos einai o rolos mas.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Opote kai na ginontai oi dhmoskophseis, eite se paliotero xrono, eite einai sta katw ths h sta panw ths h kybernhsh, eite oi ejelijeis einai eynoikes h oxi, h diafora einai panw apo 6-7 monades. Den yparxei sthn kybernhsh mia skech gia to ti ftaiei kai ayth h diafora den katebainei katw apo eji monades;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den kybernoyn oi dhmoskophseis. Oi dhmoskophseis katagrafoyn sygkekrimenes stigmes, eikones, diamartyries kai topoqethseis twn politwn, me bash ta problhmata toys. Ola ayta safws meletwntai. Ola mas apasxoloyn kai to exw pei epaneilhmmena edw. To erwthma poy tiqetai einai: Ti perimenei o kosmos; Emeis ermhneyoyme: Na efarmosoyme thn politikh mas kai ayth na apodwsei. Ayto qa kanoyme. Qa feroyme se peras ayto poy desmeythkame. Apo thn apodosh ths politikhs mas qa dhmioyrghsoyme th qetikh bash. Me to programma ths neas 4etias poy qa paroysiasoyme, me thn anadeijh ths prosdokias toy mellontos, ths poreias mas gia th synexeia, na dhmioyrghsoyme toys oroys, wste na kerdisoyme tis ekloges.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Allo pragma sas rwthsa: Tessera xronia twra, h diafora me th N.D. einai panw apo 5-6 monades. H kybernhsh exei kapoia peistikh apanthsh na dwsei; Ti einai ayto poy ftaiei kai yparxei diafora edw kai tessera xronia panw apo eji monades;

PRWTOPAPAS: To 1999, h diafora, metajy PASOK kai N.D, htan deka monades. To 2000, dhladh ena xrono meta, kerdisame tis ekloges. O poliths, thn wra twn eklogwn, ekrine me bash thn apodosh twn politikwn, tis prooptikes kai tis prosdokies toy. Shmera, o poliths, otan ton rwtate se mia dhmoskophsh, topoqeteitai se sxesh me ta problhmata toy. Anagnwrizw ta problhmata twn politwn kai to dikaiologhmeno twn prosdokiwn toys. To krisimo erwthma einai, omws, apo poy perimenei th lysh toys. Mporoyme emeis na dwsoyme lyseis, dioti einai safes oti apo ton allon den perimenei. Otan, loipon, oi lyseis aytes proxwrhsoyn kai ginoyn prajh kai h prosdokia kai h prooptikh anadeixqei gia th nea 4etia, h politikh ektimhsh qa einai teleiws diaforetikh.

KARGOYDH: O k. Tsoxatzopoylos, se mia synenteyjh toy sta "NEA", anaferomenos sto deon genesqai gia na anakamcei to komma sas, proteinei th diejagwgh enos programmatikoy synedrioy, to fqinopwro. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn mia seira protasewn apo ta stelexh mas, prokeimenoy, kata ton kalytero dynato tropo, na anadeijoyme to ergo mas kai na proxwrhsoyme stis prosdokies kai tis prooptikes poy xarazoyme gia th nea 4etia. Oles aytes oi protaseis ajiologoyntai. To kaqe stelexos einai logiko, otan qelei na anadeijei th filosofia toy, na kanei tis protaseis toy. Ola ta stelexh, opws kai o k. Tsoxatzopoylos, einai sthn prwth grammh ths yperaspishs kai ths prowqhshs toy kybernhtikoy ergoy.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean perimenoyme shmera kapoia ejelijh sto qema twn metallwryxwn kai ayto poy exei dhmioyrghqei edw kai oktw meres.

PRWTOPAPAS: Me idiaiterh eyaisqhsia kai eyqynh proseggizoyme ayto to problhma. Xronia twra prospaqoyme me oles tis dynameis mas na ejasfalisoyme ependyseis gia na diasfalisoyme to mellon kai th biwsimothta aytwn twn metalleiwn kai panw apo ola th doyleia twn ekatontadwn ergazomenwn. Proexei to dikaiwma sthn ergasia, giati yparxoyn ekatontades ergazomenoi, poy exoyn palecei, poy prospaqoyn, poy exoyn dwsei th zwh toys kai exoyn dikaiwma sthn ergasia kai se mia kalyterh zwh. Se ayth thn prospaqeia mas exoyme synanthsei antidraseis. H mataiwsh ths ependyshs, opws gnwrizete, egine me prosfyges politwn. Aytes oi prosfyges brhkan thn kybernhsh antiqeth. Den dikaiwqhkame. Akoma kai twra, prospaqoyme na broyme lysh, synaisqanomenoi thn eyqynh poy exoyme kai thn prospaqeia poy prepei na kanoyme, apenanti se anqrwpoys, poy me idiaitera dyskoles synqhkes, bgazoyn to merokamato toys. Poly piqanon, opws me enhmerwsan oi armodioi ypoyrgoi, na exoyme qetikes ejelijeis. Ayto poy qelw na diabebaiwsw, me to xeri sthn kardia, einai oti paleyoyme na broyme lysh kai na diasfalisoyme aytoys toys anqrwpoys toy moxqoy, mexri thn teleytaia piqanothta poy mporoyme na ejantlhsoyme. Pisteyw oti mporoyme na exoyme apotelesmata syntoma.

POYLIDOY: Qa hqela to sxolio sas, ws ellhnikh Proedria, gia to polwneziko dhmochfisma kai gia thn arnhsh ths Bretanias na proxwrhsei stis diadikasies entajhs sto eyrw.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oson afora to deytero, epaneilhmmena exoyn ginei dhlwseis. Den wfelei twra, enocei ths Synodoy Koryfhs, na epanelqoyme se ayta ta zhthmata, ws ellhnikh kybernhsh toylaxiston. Einai gnwsto oti oso pio polles xwres einai sthn Eyrwzwnh. An mpei kai to Hnwmeno Basileio, qa einai kalytera ta apotelesmata. Ayto, omws, einai ena qema poy o idios o bretanikos laos ofeilei na apofasisei.

Sas eyxaristw.

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