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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 11 Ioynioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

MPOTWNHS: Allh mia dhmoskophsh ths MRB, shmera, dinei megalo probadisma sth N.D. Meta apo ayto to klima poy exei dhmioyrghqei, alla kai ta poiotika xarakthristika aytwn twn ereynwn, pisteyete oti qa kerdisete tis ekloges, opote ki an aytes ginoyn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Nai, mporoyme na kerdisoyme tis ekloges. Qelw sto shmeio ayto na epishmanw oti ekleise enas sygkekrimenos kyklos, me ayth thn ereyna, se enan politiko xrono idiaitera bebarhmeno gia to PASOK, opws einai gnwsto. Ekeino poy qeloyme na ypogrammisoyme einai oti oles tis ereynes -kai ayth bebaiws- tis ajiologoyme kai tis ajiopoioyme. Alla, oi ereynes einai fwtografia mias sygkekrimenhs xronikhs stigmhs. Bebaiws emperiexoyn tis anhsyxies kai thn kritikh twn politwn. Alla gia mas, to kyrio einai na synexisoyme th doyleia mas, na lysoyme ta problhmata twn politwn, na antapokriqoyme se ayto poy perimenoyn oi polites apo emas, gia na mporesoyme na dhmioyrghsoyme toys oroys, me to ergo kai thn prooptikh mas, wste na kerdisoyme tis epomenes ekloges. Nai, mporoyme na tis kerdisoyme, arkei na pistecoyme s@ ayto. Kai ayto einai to kyriarxo poy prepei na doyme kata to epomeno diasthma.

TAKHS: Diafwneite, dhladh, me th dhlwsh toy k. Laliwth, poy eipe oti "xtypane kampanakia kai kampanes" gia to PASOK apo tis dhmoskophseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas parapemcw sth dhlwsh poy ekana molis twra.

TAKHS: Epeidh erxetai ligo se antiqesh me th dhlwsh toy Grammatea toy Kommatos...

PRWTOPAPAS: An parete tis dhlwseis stelexwn kai cajete tis lejeis, profanws qa mporeite na moy peite oti den eipa th mia lejh, eipa thn allh. Gi@ ayto, sas parapempw sth dhlwsh poy ekana prin.

TAKHS: O k. Laliwths ekfrazei mia anhsyxia me th dhlwsh toy -gi@ ayto sas rwthsa- otan leei oti "xtypane kampanes" gia to PASOK.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ejartatai apo to pws to ermhneyei o kaqenas. Ligo prin sas eipa oti oi polites zhtoyn apo mas na antapokriqoyme se ayto poy oi idioi aisqanontai ws problhma, na lysoyme ta problhmata toys. Etsi to antilambanomaste. Oi polites to zhtoyn apo mas. Den perimenoyn apo th N.D. na kanei kati tetoio. Gia na strafei kapoios pros th N.D. shmainei oti profanws den perimenei pleon apo emas. Ayto, omws, den isxyei shmera. Shmera, o poliths zhta na lysoyme ta problhmata toy kai mas epishmainei poia einai ta kyriotera apo ayta. Efoson emeis antapokriqoyme -kai qa to kanoyme, exoyme th dynamh, th qelhsh kai thn ikanothta ayth- fysika ta pragmata qa einai teleiws diaforetika. H zwh diamorfwnei tis dhmoskophseis. To ergo mas, h doyleia mas, den diamorfwnontai apo tis dhmoskophseis. To mhnyma gia mas einai safes: Me apotelesmatikothta sth doyleia mas, sthn apodosh ths politikhs mas, sthn antapokrish sta problhmata twn politwn kai me empistosynh sthn prooptikh ths nikhs. Na mhn emfanizoyme apo diafores dhlwseis, eite toy Grammatea, eite twn stelexwn mas, mia diafora poy den yparxei.

IWANNOY: Efoson symfwneite kai eseis kai o k. Laliwths sto idio pragma, oti o kosmos zhta na toy lysete ta problhmata, mhpws xreiazetai...

PRWTOPAPAS: Me thn apodosh ths politikhs mas. Ayto qelw na to kanw safes.

IWANNOY: Me thn idia politikh. Den syzhtate allages politikwn edw.

PRWTOPAPAS: Me thn apodosh ths politikhs mas, me thn apotelesmatikothta sth doyleia mas. Exoyme paroysiasei ena sygkekrimeno programma ston ellhniko lao. Exoyme paroysiasei to programma ths 4etias kai to programma ayto exei safeis prooptikes, kateyqynseis kai oroys. Eimaste ypoxrewmenoi -kai ayto einai to aisqhma eyqynhs pros ton ellhniko lao- na feroyme se peras ayto to programma. Qa to kanoyme. Ayto to programma, se ayth thn politikh, bebaiws me thn apodosh ths, thn apotelesmatikh diaxeirish ths, th beltiwsh ston tomea ths sxeshs me to lao se orismena zhthmata. Ola ayta, omws, me thn politikh poy exoyme xarajei.

IWANNOY: Pantws, polla stelexh sas kai xqes kai alles hmeres kai se kat@ idian syzhthseis lene oti xreiazontai allages politikwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Epeidh den mporoyme na milhsoyme gia kat@ idian syzhthseis, poy den gnwrizoyme an yparxoyn h oxi, qa parakaloysa poly na stamathsoyme edw. Na milhsoyme gia gegonota; Poios; Den exw dei kanena na exei zhthsei allagh politikhs, mexri twra, dioti qa prepei na pei kai poia einai h allh politikh.

BITALHS: To neo koinwniko symbolaio poy proteinei synexws o k. Tsoxatzopoylos, ti shmainei;

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Tsoxatzopoylos proteine mia programmatikh syndiaskech, h opoia profanws exei ajia gia thn prooptikh mas. Se deka mhnes exoyme ekloges.

BITALHS: Den milhsa gia thn programmatikh syndiaskech poy proteine proxqes, alla gia to gegonos oti edw kai dyo mhnes o k. Tsoxatzopoylos mila gia neo koinwniko symbolaio me to lao, gia problhmata sthn anaptyjh, gia anisomerh anaptyjh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas tonisw oti o k. Tsoxatzopoylos exei sta xeria toy ayth th stigmh -kai kata th gnwmh moy antapokrinetai me idiaiterh akribeia, entash kai apotelesmatikothta sth doyleia toy- ton tomea ths anaptyjhs, apo pleyras ths kybernhshs. Pisteyw oti to ergo poy kanei to ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs einai pragmati poly shmantiko kai o k. Tsoxatzopoylos einai panta sthn prwth grammh ths maxhs.

BITALHS: Anaferqhkate, prohgoymenws, stis dhmoskophseis, legontas oti oi polites den perimenoyn apo th N.D. na lysei ta problhmata. Kai rwtw to ejhs: Koitazontas kai ta poiotika stoixeia twn dhmoskophsewn, blepoyme oti to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs yperterei safws se sygkekrimenoys tomeis, sthn antimetwpish ths anergias, sta qemata ths ygeias, ths paideias. Ayto den shmainei telika oti prosblepoyn oi polites pros ayth thn kateyqynsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Analyste kala ta apotelesmata kai qa deite oti, paroti to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs den exei -qa elega- ta dikaiologhmena problhmata mias maxhs poy dikaiologhmena exei h kybernhsh, otan paleyei me ayta ta problhmata, entoytois ta pososta poy sygkentrwnei stis prosdokies twn politwn einai idiaitera xamhla. Qewrhtika, otan ta problhmata einai megala, opws gia paradeigma to qema ths anergias -kai mas to lene oi polites- qa eprepe se ayto to shmeio na exei idiaitera ychla pososta, alla den exei. Qa prosejate, epishs, oti h N.D. exei sxedon ejantlhsei th syspeirwsh ths, poy shmainei oti den exei na perimenei allo tipota. Ara, to mhnyma se emas apo ayth thn analysh einai toyto: "Kyrioi, ferte se peras ayta poy mas eipate, na apodwsei h politikh sas, na eiste apotelesmatikoi sth doyleia sas, na antimetwpisete me to ergo sas ta problhmata". Ayto to mhnyma to ajiopoioyme. Na eiste bebaioi gi@ ayto.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Mias kai o logos einai gia tis dhmoskophseis, sto trito meros ths dhmoskophshs ths VPRC, anaferei ws megalytero kai shmantikotero pleonekthma ths N.D. apenanti sto PASOK gia tis epomenes ekloges, thn kopwsh ths koinhs gnwmhs apo to idio to PASOK, me ena poly megalo pososto. Exete kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ola ayta prepei na ta antimetwpisoyme. Gi@ ayto eipa oti kaqe dhmoskophsh exei th dikh ths ajia, ypo thn ennoia oti mporei na xrhsimopoihqei ws analysh, ws ergaleio gia thn politikh mas. Ayto shmainei oti prepei na eimaste konta sto lao, plai ston polith kai na peisoyme oti me to ergo mas antimetwpizoyme ta problhmata toy. As to kanoyme, epiteloys, synolika safes. Epanalambanw oti oles aytes oi dhmoskophseis, poy eginan se mia periodo idiaitera dysmenh gia to PASOK, periodo poy den einai antistoixh me th shmerinh, katagrafoyn th qelhsh, thn anhsyxia kai thn kritikh twn politwn se mia seira qematwn. Ti prepei na kanoyme emeis; Prepei na antapokriqoyme se ayta, me thn apodosh ths politikhs kai toy ergoy mas, thn apotelesmatikothta sth doyleia kai th drash mas. Ayto prepei na kanoyme. Bebaiws, se kaqe periptwsh, emeis -kai einai ena zhthma poy teqhke sthn prosfath Synodo ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs kai ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas- exoyme empistosynh sthn prooptikh ths nikhs. Pisteyoyme oti, me to ergo mas, th doyleia mas, thn epilysh twn problhmatwn toy polith, tis prosdokies kai tis prooptikes poy qa xarajoyme gia th nea 4etia, exoyme th dynatothta na kerdisoyme tis epomenes ekloges. Den qa koyrastw na to epanalambanw ayto. Exei janaginei analogo fainomeno to 1999 kai kerdisame tis ekloges toy 2000, me pisth sth nikh kai me antapokrish sto ergo mas.

MPOTWNHS: Me tis allages poy anamenontai se proswpa se liges hmeres...

PRWTOPAPAS: Me thn eykairia, qa hqela na sas pw, oti eida shmera na grafetai oti eipa xqes pws piqanon epikeintai allages. Den eipa ayto sth Boylh. Eipa oti ayta ta zhthmata mas apasxoloyn gia thn epomenh tetraetia.

MPOTWNHS: Oti anamenontai kapoies allages kai se ayto ton tomea. Eseis pisteyete, dhladh oti h kybernhsh qa allajei akoma kai to klima me ta proswpa. Dhladh ta proswpa einai to problhma;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kata th gnwmh moy, oxi. Ta proswpa einai gia na yphretoyn kai na feroyn se peras politikes. Emeis exoyme, ayth th stigmh, ena programma. Eimaste deka mhnes prin thn ekpnoh toy. Htan ena symbolaio me to lao, otan eteqh sthn krish toy, prin tis ekloges. Ayto to programma prepei na erqei se peras, prepei na apodwsei plhrws. Prepei na aisqanqei o poliths thn apotelesmatikothta ths doyleias mas -ayth einai h proteraiothta mas- idiaitera sta eyaisqhta qemata ths koinwnias. Bebaiws, qa xarajoyme thn politikh ths neas 4etias. Den pas stis ekloges mono me ton apologismo toy ergoy soy. Pas me tis prosdokies kai tis prooptikes soy. Peri aytoy, omws, yparxoyn sxetikes anafores poy qa kanei o Prwqypoyrgos me tis politikes prwtoboylies toy. Bebaiws, ean o Prwqypoyrgos ektimhsei oti xreiazontai alloy typoy allages, na eiste bebaioi oti qa to kanei. Alla, den exei eipwqei kati sygkekrimeno peri aytoy.

KALARITHS: H proqesh ths kybernhshs na paraxwrhsei diplh yphkoothta stoys Boreiohpeirwtes einai gia prin tis ekloges, ean katastei dynath mia symfwnia me thn Albania;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean katastei dynath mia symfwnia me thn Albania, qa metaqesoyme ena eqniko qema gia argotera; Gia poio logo; To eipa kai xqes. Ean qelame na syndesoyme me tis ekloges tetoia zhthmata (poy den exoyn kamia ajia, dioti aytoys toys anqrwpoys den mporoyme na toys antilambanomaste san agelh kai, epiteloys, mhn ypobaqmizoyme thn proswpikothta anqrwpwn poy einai plai mas kai ergazontai mazi mas), ean qelame na skefqoyme mikrokommatika, qa toys diname thn ellhnikh yphkoothta, mono. Ma, emeis den skeftomaste mikrokommatika. Skeftomaste symfwna me to eqniko symferon. Protimoyme th diplh yphkoothta gia kaqara eqnikoys logoys kai ayto prospaqoyme. Den gnwrizw ean eyodwqei plhrws ayth h prospaqeia. O ypoyrgos Eswterikwn prospaqei ta megista pros ayth thn kateyqynsh kai brisketai se kalo dromo h olh prospaqeia. Oyte gnwrizw akribws th xronikh stigmh. Mas endiaferei -kai epidiwkoyme xamhloys tonoys se ayto- oxi mono na dwsoyme thn eykairia se aytoys toys anqrwpoys, meta apo 10 (kai pleon) xronia, paramonhs sthn Ellada, na exoyn ta idia dikaiwmata me toys Ellhnes -ayto einai aytonohto- alla na mhn yparxoyn problhmata kai se sxesh me thn paroysia ths ellhnikhs meionothtas sth notia Albania.

KALARITHS: H kybernhsh epimenei oti allo h toyrkikh kybernhsh kai allo oi Toyrkoi strathgoi...;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas parapempw sth xqesinh politikh enhmerwsh. Dieykrinisa oti yparxei ena katesthmeno, to opoio yposthrizei tis apoceis toy k. Ntenktas, o opoios einai ``taytismenos'' mazi toy, yparxei to klassiko paradosiako katesthmeno, to opoio exei ws kairia aixmh to strato kai mia sygkekrimenh antilhch kai symperifora kai parallhla yparxei mia kybernhsh me diaforetikes diakhryjeis. To krisimo erwthma poy tiqetai shmera einai, ean ayth h kybernhsh prokeitai na thrhsei tis diakhryjeis ths h na taytistei me to katesthmeno. Erwthma poy, ean qelete, exei na kanei kai me thn prooptikh ths eyrwpaikhs poreias ths Toyrkias. Kai ayto einai ena krisimo zhthma poy, ayth th stigmh, tiqetai pros syzhthsh kai sto opoio ofeilei na topoqethqei h toyrkikh kybernhsh. Ara, to erwthma tiqetai pros thn toyrkikh kai oxi pros thn ellhnikh kybernhsh. Ayth einai h safhs dieykrinish.

KALARITHS: Me aformh tis antidraseis poy yphrjan shmera gia th xwroqethsh twn XYTA (yphrjan kai paraithseis stelexwn toy PASOK apo th Nomarxiakh Epitroph Boreias Attikhs se synexeia twn antidrasewn apo kybernhtikoys boyleytes) skeftetai h kybernhsh na epanejetasei tis apofaseis ths h oxi;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa th qesh ths kybernhshs: Me aisqhma eyqynhs apenanti sta 4,5 ekatommyria katoikoys toy Lekanopedioy prepei na proxwrhsei sth xwroqethsh twn XYTA. Shmera, opws gnwrizete, to qema kleinei sth Boylh.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Thn perasmenh ebdomada kai meta apo th syzhthsh sth Boylh se epipedo arxhgwn kommatwn, eixate problecei oti o kyklos ths skandalologias kleinei. Akoma yposthrizete ayth thn apoch, meta thn teleytaia parembash toy k. Kroystallakh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oson afora thn kybernhsh, eixa parei qesh kai epimenw sth qesh ayth. Oles oi kathgories poy ektojeyqhkan kata ths kybernhshs, apodeixqhkan pantelws anypostates, abasimes kai ypobolimaies. Apo kei kai pera, ean qelei h Dikaiosynh na kanei th doyleia ths, den eimaste emeis poy qa paremboyme sth Dikaiosynh.

GARGALAKOS: Den anoigei neos kyklos skandalologias meta apo ayth thn parembash toy Eisaggelea toy Areioy Pagoy. Ennow, oti anoigoyn qemata poy htan kleista. Ayto den problhmatizei thn kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto, afora tis eswterikes leitoyrgies ths Dikaiosynhs. Kai otan apofasisei h Dikaiosynh na kanei th sxetikh ereyna, qa ferei kai sto fws ta opoia pragmatika peristatika, thn pragmatikh alhqeia. Emeis den exoyme kanena logo parembashs, ayth th stigmh, stis eswterikes diadikasies kai to ergo ths Dikaiosynhs.

MIXAHL: To erwthma den einai ean o k. Kroystallakhs ekane h oxi th doyleia toy. Eseis profanws den qa to krinete ayto, allwste exei kai thn anejarthsia apo to Syntagma. To erwthma einai, ean eseis ektimate pws h energeia toy k. Kroystallakh mporei na tyxei politikhs ekmetalleyshs apo politikoys antipaloys sas.

PRWTOPAPAS: To qewrw pantelws anohto na epixeirei kapoios mikrokommatika na ekmetalleyetai tis eswterikes diadikasies ths Dikaiosynhs. Ayto den qa odhghsei poyqena, antiqeta qa ton ekqesei, ean telika epixeirhsei na to kanei. Apaiteitai idiaiterh prosoxh, otan prokeitai gia th Dikaiosynh kai tis eswterikes diadikasies ths, opws genika gia to ergo ths. Prepei na thn afhsoyme na to ferei se peras. Otan leme oti opoios exei stoixeia na ta kataqesei ston Eisaggelea, ejypakoyetai oti apo thn pleyra toy o Eisaggeleas qa prepei na kanei th doyleia toy. Opoios epixeirhsei mikrokommatika na ekmetalleyqei paromoia gegonota, to mono poy qa kataferei einai na ekteqei anepanorqwta.

TAKHS: Xqes, yphrje mia ejairetika entonh antiparaqesh metajy ths Proedroy toy Aqhna-2004 kai toy Syllogoy Olympionikwn. Kai malista shmera, boyleytes toy kommatos sas sth Boylh, elegan oti h ka Aggelopoyloy zei sth xlidh kai thn alazoneia kai edeije apajiwtikh symperifora ws pros toys Olympionikes. Poio einai to sxolio sas gia osa synebhsan xqes kai osa akoysthkan shmera;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prepei na baloyme ta pragmata sthn pragmatikh toys bash kai na ta proseggisoyme me nhfaliothta. Oloys, mas endiaferoyn oi Olympiakoi Agwnes kai oloi exoyme th qelhsh na systrateyqoyn oles oi dynameis ths xwras kai na bohqhsoyn sto ergo twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Sthrizoyme thn Organwtikh Epitroph kai thn Proedro toy AQHNA-2004. Bebaiws, apo thn allh pleyra, xreiazomaste to Syllogo Ellhnwn Olympionikwn, xreiazomaste toys anqrwpoys poy egina indalmata gia th neolaia mas, mesa apo thn epityxh poreia toys ston aqlhtismo kai tis megales nikes poy petyxan, prokeimenoy na dhmioyrghqei to anagkaio klima, h anagkaia ypokinhsh gia na petyxei o Eqelontismos kai na apotelesoyn oi O.A. proswpikh ypoqesh olwn twn Ellhnwn. Exoyme anagkh apo ayta ta protypa kai pisteyw oti o k. Fasoylas me ayth th logikh, idiaitera ypeyqyna proseggise to olo qema.

TAKHS: Qewreite, me bash kai ayto poy eipan oi boyleytes, oti htan alazonikh h stash ths kas Aggelopoyloy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eipa kati tetoio.

TAKHS: Rwtw, ean qewreite ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa oti oloi sthrizoyme ton AQHNA-2004, opws kai o Syllogos Ellhnwn Olympionikwn. Proqesh olwn -kai ayto to ekane safes o k. Fasoylas- einai me aisqhma eyqynhs na bohqhsoyme, wste oi O.A. na ginoyn ypoqesh olwn twn Ellhnwn.

TAKHS: Pantws, o k. Fasoylas eipe xqes oti den yparxei koinos stoxos synennohshs metajy toy idioy kai ths kas Aggelopoyloy, oson afora ayto to qema.

PRWTOPAPAS: Hdh, exw apanthsei sto qema ayto.

TSAKIRHS: Ean sas kaloysan oi Ellhnes Olympionikes qa to qewroysame ``xasimo xronoy'';

PRWTOPAPAS: Moy apeyqynete thn idia erwthsh poy eqese o synadelfos sas. Ekeinos thn eqese eyqews, eseis me plagio tropo. Isxyei h prohgoymenh apanthsh moy.

KARGOYDH: Qa zhthsw to sxolio sas: Yparxoyn kapoies plhrofories oti qa erqei sth dhmosiothta mia ekqesh toy Steit Ntipartment, symfwna me thn opoia h Ellada katexei ta prwteia, oson afora th laqraia diakinhsh proswpwn kai kyriws gynaikwn. Hdh, yparxei mia antidrash apo ton yfypoyrgo Ejwterikwn k. Loberdo, o opoios dhlwse oti h kybernhsh elpizei na anagnwristoyn oi prospaqeies ths. To erwthma einai, ean ontws prokyptei tetoia ekqesh, giati mexri stigmhs, exoyme mono plhrofories...

PRWTOPAPAS; Kata pasa piqanothta, to apogeyma qa doqei sth dhmosiothta. Epomenws, qewrw bebiasmeno na topoqetoymaste, prin akoma doqoyn sth dhmosiothta ta sxetika stoixeia. Einai ekqeseis jenwn kratwn, poy bebaiws, exoyn th ajia toys. Den einai, omws, apo ena dieqnh organismo, poy exei ayth thn eyqynh. Einai ena jeno kratos, to opoio mporei na ekferei tis dikes toy apoceis. Se kaqe periptwsh, h paranomh diakinhsh gynaikwn, einai ena sobaro problhma, to opoio mas exei apasxolhsei idiaitera sobara. H ellhnikh kybernhsh exei ergastei gia thn antimetwpish toy. Perissoteres leptomereies qa syzhthsoyme ayrio.

KARGOYDH: Anejarthta apo thn ekqesh toy Steit Ntipartment, epeidh ontws yparxei ena zhthma sth xwra mas, qewreite oti apotelesmatika exete parembei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme doylecei me aisqhma sobarothtas kai eyqynhs gia na antimetwpisoyme ayto to poly sobaro problhma. Bebaiws, prepei na synexisoyme th doyleia mas. Kaneis den to arneitai ayto. Kai exoyme akoma poly dromo na dianysoyme. Den diaqetoyme magika rabdakia gia na antimetwpisoyme ena problhma poy exei terastia ektash. Ejakoloyqoyme na ergazomaste pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Dioti ayto prepei na kanoyme gia thn proaspish twn dikaiwmatwn aytwn twn anqrwpwn, poy kapoioi toys ekmetalleyontai. Dioti ayto apaitei h anqrwpinh ajioprepeia ,thn opoia sebomaste, dioti ayto ypagoreyei to kratos dikaioy. Den apantoyme me ``qa''. Exoyme doylecei se ayton ton tomea, me idiaiterh sobarothta, wste na exoyme sygkekrimena apotelesmata.

KARGOYDH: Epeidh shmera o k. Anwmeriths epanhlqe sto qema twn monopyqmenwn tankers kai eipe oti molis to 2,73% toy ellhnikoy stoloy qigetai apo thn koinotikh odhgia, h opoia problepei thn allagh. Etsi, fwtografise kai pali th N.D., h opoia yperaspizetai meiochfika symferonta efoplistwn. Hqela na rwthsw, ean skopeyete na dwsete perissotera stoixeia, mias kai oi ariqmoi pleon einai ejairetika periorismenoi.

PRWTOPAPAS: To armodio ypoyrgeio Emporikhs Naytilias pareqese kai paraqetei ola ta sxetika stoixeia. Einai safes oti h N.D. me aytes tis kinhseis ejyphretoyse kai ejyphretei sygkekrimena epixeirhmatika symferonta.

MIXAHL: Epifylaxqhkate na apanthsete sthn ekqesh toy Steit Ntipartment...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den epifylaxqhka.

MIXAHL: Me thn ennoia na th deite kai na apanthsete ayrio.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia na apanthsw sygkekrimena. Alla thn ebala kai stis pragmatikes diastaseis ths. Einai mia ekqesh jenhs yphresias, jenoy ypoyrgeioy.

MIXAHL: Pragmati, to epishmo keimeno qa to exoyme to apogeyma kai qa to sxoliasete ayrio. Omws...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den aisqanomai oti apologoymai. Apologoymaste ston ellhniko lao.

MIXAHL: Wstoso, enw katanow thn typikh diadikasia toy qematos, thn oysiastikh den mporw na thn antilhfqw, dedomenoy oti ypoyrgoi sas paradexontai oti o k. Miler sas exei enhmerwsei gia to periexomeno ths. Stoys armodioys toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn exei pei oti h ekqesh ayth qa perilambanei ayto kai ayto. Ayta, dhladh, poy eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Piqanon. Den einai kako ayto, dhladh na enhmerwsei enas presbhs thn ellhnikh kybernhsh gia kati. Ti allazei se ayta poy eipa; Tipota apolytws.

MPOTWNHS: Exoyme kanena neo, kapoia ejelijh, gia to peristatiko sth Madrith;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. Gia shmera, den exoyme kamia ejelijh.

ELENOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o ypoyrgos o opoios oikodomhse mazi me ton k. Shmith tis leptomereies ths teleytaias politikhs poy aforoyn tis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis, me shmerinh synenteyjh toy sto "Krama", gia prwth fora fainetai oti exei mia aisqhsh h diaisqhsh (opws qelete peite to) oti mporei na eimaste enwpion, pio piqana twra apo o,ti sto parelqon, enos qermoy epeisodioy. Malista afhnei na ennohqei oti gia toyto etoimazomaste kai me toys katallhloys tropoys, perissotero apo o,ti sto parelqon. Kai to lew ayto, se syndyasmo me mia allh plhroforia poy anaferetai sto idio periodiko, oti thn teleytaia periodo exoyn pyknwsei poly kai oi acimaxies peri ta Imia kai malista me kamoyflarismena polemika skafh kai oxi limenika.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai safes oti dianyoyme mia periodo entashs twn toyrkikwn proklhsewn (den yparxei kamia amfibolia peri aytoy) me thn a@ h th b@ morfh. Den mporw, bebaiws, na to epibebaiwsw apo edw. Yparxei, omws -kai to exoyme epishmanei- mia entash twn toyrkikwn proklhsewn. Eipa jana oti emeis, exontas ton idio pyrhna strathgikhs, qesame ena eyqy erwthma pros thn toyrkikh kybernhsh, h opoia einai o synomilhths mas: Pws topoqeteiste apenanti se ayto; Yioqeteite kai taytizeste me ayth thn politikh h qa proxwrhsete epiteloys, apofasismenoi na kanete prajeis tis arxikes diakhryjeis sas; Dioti, ean thn yioqeteite, ean taytizeste me ayth thn politikh, opws stadiaka arxizei na fainetai, tote oi idioi exete qesei se kindyno kai thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias kai qa thn odhghsete sthn apomonwsh ths apo olh th dieqnh koinothta. Emeis, se kaqe periptwsh, qa synexisoyme na piezoyme kai gia na lyqei to Kypriako, poy einai to prwto zhthma kai gia na exoyme mia genikoterh metatroph ths Notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs se mia zwnh eirhnhs, asfaleias kai synergasias. Ean apo ekei kai pera, oi Toyrkoi synexisoyn ayth thn politikh, einai safes oti qa apomonwqoyn apo olh th dieqnh koinothta. Bebaiws, den shmainei oti den jeroyme poly kala pws na yperaspistoyme kai ta eqnika symferonta ths xwras. To antiqeto. Dinoyme idiaiterh prosoxh kai yparxei idiaiterh etoimothta se ayto. Se kaqe periptwsh, omws, den metaballoyme se prwteyonta (giati etsi qa antapokrinomaste sthn oysia emmesws se ayto poy qeloyn oi idioi oi Toyrkoi gia na dhmioyrghsoyn texnhth ojynsh) ta zhthmata ayta. Prwteyoysa einai h politikh mas. Ayto einai to prwto kaqhkon mas: oi staqeroi stoxoi mas kai h dhmioyrgia qetikwn sysxetismwn mesa sth dieqnh koinothta. Exoyme labei ta metra mas gia otidhpote allo. Den akoloyqoyme thn texnhth entash sthn opoia qelei na mas balei h Toyrkia. Enhmerwnoyme to NATO kai thn E.E. gia ayta ta peristatika kai apantoyme me ton tropo poy prepei, otan prepei kai me to kalytero dynato apotelesma.

Sas eyxaristw.

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