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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 22 Maioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Shmera, qa exoyme dyo shmeia poy qelw na epishmanw:

To ena einai h koinh synenteyjh twn Ypoyrgwn Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn toy k. Nikoy Xristodoylakh me ton Ypoyrgo Ergasias kai Koinwnikwn Asfalisewn ton k. Dhmhtrh Reppa, gyrw apo ta zhthmata ths apasxolhshs kai twn problhmatwn poy ton teleytaio kairo exoyn apasxolhsei me to kleisimo orismenwn epixeirhsewn.

Oi dyo Ypoyrgoi dinoyn @opws jerete- shmera ayth thn wra koinh synenteyjh Typoy, opoy q@ anaferqoyn kai sta qemata ths antagwnistikothtas ths ellhnikhs oikonomias kai sta qemata ths poreias ths apasxolhshs kai bebaiws kai sta metra ta opoia lambanoyme gia tis tyxon periptwseis mazikwn apolysewn ergazomenwn, apo epixeirhseis poy kleinoyn kai nomizw oti ajizei ton kopo na dwsoyme mia idiaiterh prosoxh se ayth th synenteyjh Typoy.

To deytero qema poy, epishs, einai ena poly epikairo qema, einai oi anafores poy exei kanei o Yfypoyrgos Emporioy o k. Xrhstos Qeodwroy, o opoios apo o,ti gnwrizw shmera episkeptetai kai thn agora, gyrw apo ta qemata twn timwn se orismena proionta, me aformh ta osa lexthkan tis teleytaies meres kyriws sta radiothleoptika mesa.

Epishs qelw na epishmanw oti me idiaiterh prosoxh gia tis shmerines dhlwseis toy Ypoyrgeioy Anaptyjhs kai eidika toy Yfypoyrgeioy Emporioy.

Prin proxwrhsw stis erwthseis sas, qa moy epitrecete na apanthsw ston ekproswpo Typoy ths Neas Dhmokratia ton k. Qeodwro Roysopoylo (aytes tis dhlwseis exw mexri shmera, den exw dhlwseis toy k. Karamanlh, mexri twra ayth th stigmh poy milame) meta th syskech poy egine me ekproswpoys twn paragwgikwn tajewn to prwi sth Rhgillhs.

Qa mporoyse kaneis na symfwnhsei me thn topoqethsh toy k. Roysopoyloy oti to qema ths apasxolhshs kai ta problhmata ths anergias, den prosferontai gia mikrokommatikh ekmetalleysh. Alla fobamai oti ayth h diapistwsh afora prwta apo ola, ton idio kai to Komma toy. Giati, pws alliws mporei na krinei kaneis thn amfisbhthsh twn epishmwn stoixeiwn, poy paroysiasa xtes apo ton Organismo Apasxolhshs Ergatikoy Dynamikoy kai malista xwris na antiteinei kanena allo stoixeio h eparkh isxyrismo.

Xqes, paroysiasame me ta pio epishma kai adiamfisbhthta stoixeia oti oi epixeirhseis poy ekleisan mesa sthn tetraetia, einai safws ligoteres, apo ekeines poy anoijan apo ekeines poy leitoyrghsan. Kaqe xronia, apo to 1999 kai meta kai idiaitera apo to 2000 kai meta, yparxei kai qetiko isozygio gia thn apasxolhsh. Oi proslhceis einai perissoteres apo tis apolyseis. Ayto den mporei na amfisbhteitai. An den yparxoyn alla stoixeia, den mporei na ginontai afhrhmenes topoqethseis kai fysika den prosferontai ta zhthmata ayta gia mikrokommatikh ekmetalleysh.

Qelw, epishs, na shmeiwsw oti kala qa ekane h Nea Dhmokratia na mas pei pws ennoei thn anodo ths antagwnistikothtas twn ellhnikwn epixeirhsewn. Dioti, kaqe fora poy milame gia diarqrwtikes allages einai antiqeth. Meta zhta diarqrwtikes allages. Poies einai aytes;

Gnwrizoyn h de gnwrizoyn ta programmata toy G@ KPS; Gnwrizoyn h den gnwrizoyn tis ypodomes poy dhmioyrgoyntai ayth thn stigmh sthn Ellada; Gnwrizoyn h den gnwrizoyn tis allages poy exoyn epelqei me thn asfalistikh metarryqmish; Gnwrizoyn h den gnwrizoyn to neo anaptyjiako nomo kai tis allages poy exoyn ginei me th forologikh metarryqmish; Gnwrizoyn h den gnwrizoyn tis allages poy exoyn ginei gia th nea ryqmish stis ergasiakes sxeseis ola ayta ta xronia kai to klima omalothtas, to opoio se genikes grammes yparxei stoys ergasiakoys xwroys sthn Ellada;

Ean den ta gnwrizoyn, na frontisoyn na ta maqoyn. Ean ta gnwrizoyn, as mas poyn, pws alliws pisteyoyn aytoi oti prepei na ginei h anodos ths antagwnistikothtas; Poies einai aytes oi diarqrwtikes allages poy epikaloyntai kai kaneis den gnwrizei ti ennooyn; As koybentiasoyme epiteloys se sygkekrimenes protaseis, se sygkekrimena zhthmata.

Den mporei kaneis na paizei me ton pono twn anergwn. Emeis ton sebomaste apolyta. Gi@ ayto kai qa paroyme metra epanentajhs toys, opoy xreiazontai, opoy yparxoyn. Giati, mas endiaferei na yparxoyn eykairies apasxolhshs gia oloys toys anergoys. Alla den prosferontai ayta ta zhthmata gia mikrokommatikh ekmetalleysh.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Gnwrizei h kybernhsh gia mia synanthsh, metajy Iranwn ekproswpwn kai ekproswpwn ths Oyasigkton, sthn Aqhna, arxh ayths ths bdomadas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, den gnwrizw kati tetoio. An kai den nomizw oti mporei na ginei epishmh synanthsh kapoiwn ekproswpwn opws eipate.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, me aformh parathrhseis poy pantote den einai arnhtikes, yparxoyn kai qetikes parathrhseis, ths Commission, exei anaptyxqei pali mia filologia, sxetika me allages sto asfalistiko. Qa eidate ta shmerina dhmosieymata. H kybernhsh poia gnwmh exei gia ola ayta; Poia einai h qesh ths;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai ta shmerina dhmosieymata kai h oysia toy problhmatos aforoyn ena kommati toy asfalistikoy, sto opoio kai palaiotera exoyme anaferqei. Einai h paratash toy ergasiakoy bioy, oxi ypo thn ennoia ths ayjhshs toy orioy hlikias, alla ypo thn ennoia ths paramonhs sthn ergasia toy ergazomenoy, mexri na ftasei to orio hlikias. Gia na mhn yparxoyn parejhghseis.

Epanalambanw. Oxi gia ayjhsh toy orioy hlikias, to opoio apokleioyme, alla gia paramonh sthn ergasia toy ergazomenoy, xwris na kindyneyei dhladh na xasei th doyleia toy h na aposyretai me prowres kai meiwmenes syntajeis, mexri thn wra poy qa erqei gia na parei th syntajh toy. Se olh thn Eyrwph dhmioyrgoyntai kinhtra gia paramonh twn ergazomenwn, mexri thn hlikia syntajiodothshs toys. Se olh thn Eyrwph yparxoyn prostateytika metra, metra enisxyshs ths apasxolhshs, twn hlikiwmenwn ergazomenwn. Se olh thn Eyrwph anazhtoyntai metra kai merikes fores me arketa shmantikes allages kai metarryqmiseis, poy qa ejasfalisoyn thn apasxolhsh twn anqrwpwn aytwn. Ayto mas endiaferei.

Gnwrizoyme oti merikes fores oi megaloi se hlikia ergazomenoi, einai ta prwta qymata se periptwsh meiwshs proswpikoy h apolysewn ap@ tis epixeirhseis. Kai ypo to kratos toy foboy h ths apolyshs, orismenes fores dexontai na paroyn kapoio paketo xrhmatwn h thn prowrh syntajiodothsh toys kai na apoxwrhsoyn. Ayto leitoyrgei kai se baros twn idiwn kai se baros toy asfalistikoy systhmatos. Mas endiaferei na syzhthsoyme, na koybentiasoyme, na synomologhsoyme me tis ergodotikes kai ergatikes organwseis, tropoys, metra, parembaseis, enisxyseis, poy qa krathsoyn toys ergazomenoys sth doyleia, mexri ta yparxonta oria ths hlikias syntajiodothshs toys.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Me dedomenh olh ayth thn problhmatikh kyrie ekproswpe, pws mporeite na proxwrhsete aytes tis syzhthseis poy qa kanete, otan exoyme ena kyma apolysewn to teleytaio diasthma kai malista opws epishmanate anqrwpoys poy einai@

PRWTOPAPAS: Den me akoysate.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Epeidh sas akoysa qelw na pw to ejhs: Oti pali aytes oi epixeirhseis poy eite anoigoyn, eite kleinoyn, den proslambanoyn oi men oses anoigoyn megaloys, oi alles apolyoyn megalhs hlikias anqrwpoys. Kai exete kai to problhma kai xqes eipate oti exete epishs kapoies skeceis gia toys makroxronia anergoys, poy synhqws einai oi anw twn 50. Ara, gi@ aytoys milame edw. Pws qa mporesete ayta ta dyo, poy den exoyn metajy toys jeperastei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gi@ ayto xreiazontai kainoyrgies politikes kai polles ap@ tis politikes hdh yparxoyn. Qelw na qymisw oti yparxoyn idiaitera ayjhmena kinhtra, poly ychles epidothseis gia thn proslhch hlikiwmenwn anergwn. Synexizontai ayta ta programmata kai yparxoyn. efarmozontai kai shmera. Safws prepei na melethsoyme kai nees protaseis. Ayto eipe o k. Reppas xqes. H kybernhsh qa melethsei kai nees protaseis poy na mporesei peraiterw na enisxysei ayto to kyma. Dhladh, thn prospaqeia paramonhs twn ergazomenwn megalhs hlikias stis ergasies toys. Ayto qeloyme na kanoyme. Den prokeitai na allajoyn ta oria hlikias, an ayto me rwthsate.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, an qymamai kala, to qema ths paratashs toy ergasiakoy bioy eixe mpei apo tote poy o ypoyrgos Ergasias htan o k. Tzoymakas poy eixe anakinhsei gia prwth fora thn prosfath politikh periodo to qema toy asfalistikoy. Giati tosa xronia h kybernhsh exei afhsei ayto to qema, dhmioyrgwntas mia mayrh trypa sto asfalistiko systhma;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to exei afhsei h kybernhsh tosa xronia. Sas eipa jana dyo megala programmata, ta opoia exei kanei h kybernhsh ta teleytaia xronia. To prwto htan h dwrean iatrikh kai farmakeytikh periqalch twn hlikiwmenwn anergwn kai to deytero htan h megalh epidothsh, sxedon sto ycos toy hmeromisqioy, sto synoliko ycos toy hmeromisqioy kai ths proslhchs hlikiwmenwn anergwn apo idiwtikes epixeirhseis. Kai bebaiws, gnwrizete oti yparxei mia syzhthsh oloklhrh, h opoia kata kairoys exei odhghsei se sygkekrimena programmata, gia tis qeseis ths koinwnikhs ergasias.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Mporw omws na sas epishmanw oti epishs h kybernhsh, oi kybernhseis toy PASOK ta teleytaia 9 xronia, exoyn kanei kai ektetamena programmata prowrwn syntajiodothsewn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayta einai kata periptwsh, den einai ektetamena programmata. Tetoia programmata exoyn ginei se poly eidikes periptwseis, opoy eprepe na diaswqei mia epixeirhsh. Anafereste, profanws, sta Nayphgeia Skaramagka kai en merei kai sthn Olympiakh. Sthn ERT ta programmata ayta eginan me apokleistiko skopo na staqei sta podia ths, na mhn kleisei mia epixeirhsh toy dhmosioy kai na metabibastei omala ston idiwtiko tomea, plhn thn periptwsh ths ERT, bebaiws. Milw gia ta Nayphgeia Skaramagka kyriws kai gia thn prooptikh ths Olympiakhs.

Epeidh diapistwqhke oti einai yperbolikos o ariqmos twn ergazomenwn, se sxesh me tis anagkes ths epixeirhshs kai tis prooptikes metabibashs ths ston idiwtiko tomea, wste na leitoyrghsei paragwgika, yphrjan programmata dieykolynshs ths ejodoy twn ergazomenwn se liges, elaxistes periptwseis, poy eprepe kyriws oi epixeirhseis aytes -kai omilw gia thn Olympiakh kai ta Nayphgeia Skaramagka- na perasoyn ston idiwtiko tomea.

Alla ayta einai memonwmena programmata, se poly megales epixeirhseis, poy h apokratikopoihsh qa edine thn prooptikh ths epibiwshs kai anaptyjhs toys.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Gia na oloklhrwsw, pote topoqeteitai ayth h parembash, dedomenoy oti poly prosfata eixame ``asfalistikh metarryqmish''.

PRWTOPAPAS: Nomizw oti o k. Reppas exei anoijei th syzhthsh panw sto qema. Kapoia stigmh qa katalhjoyme. Den qa einai alla metra se sxesh me thn asfalistikh metarryqmish. Ta opoia tetoia metra entassontai sth shmerinh asfalistikh metarryqmish. Den allazei tipota. Den qa allajoyn ta oria hlikias dhladh.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, den yparxei problhma ap@ to gegonos oti o k. Xristodoylakhs kai o k. Reppas, alla kai o k. Qeodwroy se allo zhthma, antedrasan me kapoia ysterhsh xronikh, se sxesh me ta problhmata poy dhmioyrghqhkan sto xwro toys kai eginan kai prwtoselida;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, den nomizw antidrasame me ysterhsh. Qymamai tis dhlwseis toy k. Xristodoylakh edw kai treis meres gia to qema kai omoiws, oxi aplws dhlwseis, alla kai kinhseis toy k. Dhmhtrh Reppa. Kai qelw na sas qymisw oti xqes me entolh toy k. Reppa, eginan treis h tesseris trimereis sto Ypoyrgeio Ergasias kai malista me idiaitera elpidofora apotelesmata qa elega.Ara kai to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias kai to Ypoyrgeio Ergasias antedrasan, antedrasan egkairws. Bebaiws, mesa sto plaisio twn dynatothtwn toys. Den mporei to Ypoyrgeio Ergasias na ejasfalisei nte kai kala gia paradeigma thn leitoyrgia enos katasthmatos ws YBONNH STORES, to katalabainete para poly kala fantazomai.

Qelw, epishs, na qymisw oti den einai oles oi periptwseis twn epixeirhsewn oi idies. Gia paradeigma, h SISSER PALACE den efyge dioti den mporoyse na staqei mesa sto plaisio ths leitoyrgias ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, giati prosqetoyme anomoia qemata metajy toys. Mas aresei na prosqetoyme mia epixeirhsh opoy yparxei mia aparadekth hqika kai koinwnika epixeirhmatikh apofash, opws einai h periptwsh ths SISSER, me mia periptwsh profanws adiejodoy, logoy epixeirhmatikoy xeirismoy, opws htan h YBONNH h opoiodhpote allo. Den mporei na prostiqentai ayta ta zhthmata. Dioti, otan prostiqentai, mas odhgoyn se lanqasmena symperasmata.

Oi kyrioi ths SISSER qeloyn na pane sthn Boylgaria, oxi dioti den exoyn kerdh h den mporoyn na leitoyrghsoyn sthn Ellada, gia na apolaysoyn misqoys poy einai sto miso ap@ oti einai sthn Ellada. Ayth h apofash prepei na katadikastei omofwna. Den prepei na apotelei antikeimeno mikrokommatikhs ekmetalleyshs. Ektos an h Nea Dhmokratia to yioqetei. Kai me thn eykairia, hqela na rwthsw ton k. Roysopoylo an ta metra tonwshs ths antagwnistikothtas poy ennoei kai qelei na apanthsei eyqews, einai h perikoph twn misqwn twn ergazomenwn, symfwna me tis apaithseis toy Proedroy toy SEB. Kai ayth h erwthsh einai eyqeia gia ton k. Roysopoylo.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Allh mia erwthsh. Ti apanta h kybernhsh se mia kritikh poy akoygetai oti exei ena ap@ oti o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn o k. Xristodoylakhs emfanizei ena elleimma epikoinwniakhs diaxeirishs twn qematwn ths oikonomias.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exw diapistwsei elleimma epikoinwniakhs diaxeirishs. Kat@ arxas, to kaqhkon toy k. Xristodoylakh, prwta ap@ ola, einai h pragmatikh diaxeirish twn qematwn ths oikonomias. Kai nomizw oti yparxei ayth th stigmh sthn Ellada kai sobarh kai pragmatikh kai me prooptikh diaxeirish twn qematwn ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Ta epikoinwniaka qa ta syzhthsoyme, alla nomizw oti prwta, prin milhsoyme gia epikoinwnia, prepei na milhsoyme gia oysia. Kai symfwna me ola ta stoixeia kai ola ta dedomena, h oikonomia mas einai se ena dromo ws aytos poy exoyme perigracei. Apo ekei kai pera kai epikoinwniaka ean to qetete etsi, apo thn prwth stigmh yphrjan dhlwseis, yphrjan topoqethseis, doqhkan stoixeia, paroysiasthkan. Toses meres ta koybentiazoyme.Den paroysiasame xqes pinakes; Shmera dexqhka kritikh kai apo th Nea Dhmokratia kai apo to Synaspismo kai moy ekane entypwsh poy htan apo dyo ypotiqetai antitiqemenes pleyres, gia ta stoixeia poy paroysiasame xqes. Ayto shmainei oti egine mia epikoinwniakh parembash shmantikh.

Proxqes, pali, paroysiasame stoixeia gia thn ptwxeysh twn epixeirhsewn kai deijame oti o ariqmos ptwxeysewn den einai toso shmantikos oso qeloyn na epikaloyntai orismenoi, toylaxiston se sxesh me thn ethsia roh toy. Triton, paroysiasame stoixeia gia tis epixeirhseis poy anoigoyn kai tis epixeirhseis poy kleinoyn kai apodeijame oti oi epixeirhseis poy anoigoyn einai perissoteres apo ekeines poy kleinoyn kai oti ayto exei kai qetiko isozygio sthn apasxolhsh. Eginan h den eginan ayta; An den eixan ginei, qa dexomoyn thn kritikh sas, bebaiws.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, se ena allo qema. Hqela na sas rwthsw, an alhqeyoyn oi plhrofories oti yparxoyn nees prosagwges sthn ypoqesh ths 17N.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa enhmerwqeite entos ths hmeras ap@ tis armodies arxes.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Egw qa hqela na epistrecw k. Ypoyrge. Shmera, rwthsan ton k. Roysopoylo, an h Nea Dhmokratia ennoei ta metra tonwshs antagwnistikothtas ws th meiwsh misqwn, opws exei proideasei o Proedros toy SEB o k. Kyriakopoylos. Xqes, o k. Flwridhs, mesw toy radiofwnikoy staqmoy ``PLANNET'', den rwthse, milhse eyqews gia politikh sympaignia Neas Dhmokratias @ SEB, exei apanthsei shmera o k. Analyths, kanontas logo gia anohsies toy Yfypoyrgoy Oikonomikwn, qa hqela na moy peite pws krinete ayto to klima anamesa sthn kybernhsh kai ton SEB kai an yparxei rhjh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den ektimw oti yparxei rhjh. Bebaiws, yphrjan kapoies parathrhseis, tis opoies kaname kai tis ekana ki egw kai htan politikes oi parathrhseis, me aformh thn topoqethsh toy Proedroy toy Syndesmoy Ellhnikwn Biomhxaniwn. Kai milw gia politikes parathrhseis. Apo ekei kai pera kai oi foreis krinontai kai den prepei na mas kakofainetai h kritikh.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Epitrecte moy na epimeinw sto qema ths paratashs toy ergasiakoy bioy. Ta metra poy qa syzhthsete me toys ergazomenoys qa aforoyn to synolo ths oikonomikhs drasthriothtas kai ton idiwtiko kai to dhmosio tomea;

PRWTOPAPAS: Na perimenoyme tis ejaggelies toy k. Reppa kalytera, mhn mpoyme se leptomereies, giati den einai swsto. Safws, qa aforoyn kai ton idiwtiko kyriws tomea, alla mporoyn na qijoyn kai orismena qemata toy Dhmosioy. Fantazomai, omws, oti ston idiwtiko tomea einai to megalo problhma. Ekei yparxei anasfaleia

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Gi@ ayto to rwtw.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, th Deytera apo o,ti fainetai, anoigei jana o fakelos ths ypoqeshs twn ekbiasmwn, kaqws o Anakriths exei kalesei ton k. Mixalopoylo gia nea kataqesh. Meta apo ayth th megalh periodo sighs, h kybernhsh epimenei oti prepei na ftasei to maxairi sto kokalo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Nomizw oti ta exoyme pei ayta, kat@ epanalhch. Gnwrizete poly kala oti den distasame na steiloyme ston Eisaggelea opoiadhpote ypoqesh apasxolhse to dhmosio bio. Opoiadhpote ypoqesh apasxolhse to dhmosio bio, prwtoi emeis th steilame ston Eisaggelea kai zhthsame apo ton Eisaggelea thn epitaxynsh twn proqesmiwn, en pash periptwsei, epishmaname oti wfelei to dhmosio bio na yparxei taxythta sthn antimetwpish ths. Xairomai, dioti o Eisaggeleas toy Areioy Pagoy o k. Krystallakhs exei kanei megalh prospaqeia se ayth thn kateyqynsh.

Qelw na qymisw oti gia oles tis kataggelies poy yphrjan, yphrje amesh parapomph sth Dikaiosynh. Den einai etsi; Apo ekei kai pera, h Dikaiosynh kanei thn ereyna ths. Den mporoyme na piesoyme, oyte na epiballoyme. Epishmainoyme kai zhtoyme.

Sas eyxaristw.

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