Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-05-07

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 7 Maioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

To xqesino Symboylio twn Ypoyrgwn Politismoy kai MME, stis Bryjelles, htan idiaitera karpoforo. Yparxoyn sxetikes dhlwseis toy ypoyrgoy Politismoy Eyaggeloy Benizeloy, opws epishs kai dikes moy. Se o,ti afora idiaitera ton Politismo eixame thn anakoinwsh gia th diafylajh ths politistikhs klhronomias toy Irak, h opoia einai poly shmantikh. Ston tomea twn Optikoakoystikwn anoije o dialogos gia thn thleorash "xwris synora". Ektimw oti htan enas dialogos me idiaitero endiaferon, afoy perilambanei polla zhthmata, metajy twn opoiwn, kai h thleoptikh diafhmish, poy qa einai to qema toy Synedrioy poy organwnei to Ypoyrgeio mas, sto plaisio ths ellhnikhs Proedrias, sthn Kerkyra (11-12/5). Ws ek toytoy, th Deytera qa apoysiazw. Na prosqesw monon oti to Synedrio, ektos apo to qema ths thleoptikhs diafhmishs, qa asxolhqei kai me thn isorropia metajy ths oikonomikhs biwsimothtas twn Meswn kai toy koinwnikoy roloy toys.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

GARGALAKOS: Mhpws, meta ta prodhmosieymata toy biblioy toy k. Kyrtsoy exete na kanete kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporoyme na topoqetoymaste, ws kybernhsh, se dhlwseis, dhmosieymata h topoqethseis. Den einai dynaton kaqe fora poy blepei to fws ths dhmosiothtas ena dhmosieyma -to opoio den afora bebaiws thn kybernhsh- na bgainei h kybernhsh kai na topoqeteitai. Se kaqe periptwsh, ayto poy qelw na pw einai oti oi politikoi -kai to lew genika- otan einai kati poy toys afora kai toys afora kai proswpika prepei na topoqetoyntai oi idioi. Ara, gia ta dhmosieymata ayta pisteyw pws yparxoyn oi qigomenoi, oi anaferomenoi, oi opoioi prepei oi idioi na topoqethqoyn kai na mas enhmerwsoyn. Ayto den einai diko mas qema.

KARGOYDH: Akoyga se radiofwniko staqmo ton k. Meimarakh, o opoios rwthqhke kai toy zhthqhke na sxoliasei kai to biblio toy k. Kyrtsoy, alla kai genikotera olo ayto to klima poy exei dhmioyrghqei kai eipe oti h N.D. den yioqetei, oyte dhmosieymata, oyte biblia kai oti ayto poy metraei einai h enisxysh twn qesmikwn metrwn yper ths diafaneias. Epeidh einai h prwth antidrash apo pleyras N.D@.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den diafwnw kaqoloy me ton k. Meimarakh. Emeis -kai qelw na eimaste poly safeis- den pame, oyte na kanoyme kanena symchfismo, oyte otan ena dhmosieyma den mas aresei na to jorkizoyme, oyte otan ena dhmosieyma mas aresei na to epikrotoyme. Den askoyme tetoia politikh kai den mporoyme na antimetwpizoyme ta meizona politika problhmata me tetoioys oroys kai tetoies antilhceis. Gi` ayto -opws diapistwsate- eimaste poly prosektikoi. Pisteyw omws -kai to anaferw ws qema arxhs- pws otan oi politikoi qigontai -kai ws atoma akomh- ofeiloyn na topoqetoyntai kaqara. Ayto einai qema arxhs. Apo ekei kai pera, gia ta genikotera qesmika zhthmata, qa symfwnhsw apolyta, se ayto to shmeio, me thn topoqethsh toy k. Meimarakh. Xreiazetai, dhladh, na synergazomaste gia na enisxyoyme kai na qwrakizoyme, oso mporoyme perissotero, toys qesmoys kai me ayton ton tropo na mporoyme na antimetwpizoyme ta problhmata se oles tis periptwseis, enisxyontas etsi ta metra diafaneias kai elegxoy.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Xqes, o ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. Xristodoylakhs anakoinwse oti qa dienerghqoyn elegxoi se ogdonta, an den kanw laqos, eishgmenes etaireies sto Xrhmatisthrio. Meta apo ta osa exoyn dei to fws ths dhmosiothtas, shmera yparxei ena neo stoixeio poy prostiqetai ston kamba apo thn "Kaqhmerinh", poy afora thn INTERSAT toy k. Mpatatoydh. Mhpws, h kybernhsh anagnwrizei oti yphrje kapoia kaqysterhsh h kapoies elleiceis sth diadikasia elegxoy twn etaireiwn poy eishxqhsan sto Xrhmatisthrio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayth h syzhthsh exei ginei para polles fores. Yparxei mia pragmatikothta oti ayto to qesmiko plaisio me to opoio leitoyrgoyse to Xrhmatisthrio xreiazotan diorqwseis, beltiwseis kai peraiterw enisxysh. Ayto stadiaka ginetai. Kai oi elegxoi toys opoioys o k. Xristodoylakhs ejhggeile xqes einai para polloi. Qa einai idiaitera shmantikoi kai qa bohqhsoyn, wste na erqei olh h alhqeia sto fws, qa symbaloyn sthn enisxysh toy anagkaioy plaisioy diafaneias, thn enisxysh enos plaisioy omalhs, swsths kai idiaitera kaqarhs leitoyrgias toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Pisteyoyme oti h apofash poy elhfqh xqes einai poly shmantikh. Anamfibola kaqe metro poy lambanoyme enisxyei th diafaneia kai prepei na to epikrothsoyme. Apo ekeino to shmeio, omws, mexri toy na metatrecoyme to qema toy Xrhmatisthrioy se shmeio agonwn kommatikwn antiparaqesewn kai antagwnismwn makria apo ta endiaferonta toy polith yparxei terastia apostash. Einai mia allh ypoqesh. Prepei na synergastoyme oloi, prokeimenoy na peisoyme thn ellhnikh koinwnia oti dhmioyrgoyme ena qesmiko plaisio ikano na prostatecei ton polith, ton ependyth kai na mhn epitrecei stoys opoioysdhpote kerdoskopoys h kapoioys poy en pash periptwsei den metaxeirizontai ta nomima mesa, ta mesa poy prepei h ta mesa poy epiballoyn oi kanones swsths leitoyrgias ths Xrhmatagoras, na parasyroyn ton ependyth. Ayto prepei na to diasfalisoyme kai na to diasfalisoyme oloi. Kaqe metro poy lambanetai pros ayth thn kateyqynsh -kai ta metra elegxoy poy ejaggelqhkan xqes s` ayth thn kateyqynsh briskontai- enisxyei anamfibola to qesmiko plaisio, kalyptei ayth thn anagkaiothta.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Egw rwtaw an ayta ta stoixeiwdh metra elegxoy eprepe na exoyn lhfqei prin apo kapoio kairo, otan oi polites mpainontas sto Xrhmatisthrio exasan tosa lefta, giati den jerw se poion anafereste otan lete na mhn ginetai ayto stoixeio politikhs antiparaqeshs, giati einai makria apo ta problhmata toy laoy. Pantws, ena apo ta basika problhmata toy laoy einai ta lefta poy exase sto Xrhmatisthrio.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa oti den xreiazetai agonh kommatikh antiparaqesh. To qema toy xrhmatisthrioy apaitei kai toys elegxoys poy ejaggeilame xqes kai o,ti mporoyme na kanoyme kai opoia metra mporoyme na laboyme, parallhla me ayta poy exoyn hdh lhfqei. Exoyn, hdh, ginei polla sthn kateyqynsh enisxyshs toy qesmikoy plaisioy kai ths ejasfalishs ths diafaneias kai ths omalhs leitoyrgias toy Xrhmatisthrioy, gia thn prostasia toy ependyth. Ayto kanoyme. Bebaiws, ayto den yphrxe panta. Stadiaka dhmioyrgeitai ayto to qesmiko plaisio kai enteinontai ta metra elegxoy, alla den einai h prwth fora poy ginontai tetoioi elegxoi. Bebaiws, twra ginontai pio systhmatika kai isws mas dwsoyn perissoteres plhrofories h dedomena. Ayto deixnei kai thn proqesh mas na enisxyoyme kai na beltiwnoyme synexws to qesmiko plaisio. Den htan ola panta teleia. Kai bebaiws, kapoioi kinhqhkan mesa se ayto to periballon. Qelw na sas qymisw oti exoyn paei kai fylakh kai oti exoyn ginei kai mhnyseis, kaqws kai parembaseis apo ta armodia organa gia mia seira apo etaireies poy kinhqhkan sto Xrhmatisthrio me aparadektoys oroys kai tropoys. Ayto prepei na to qymomaste.

Milhsa gia kommatikh antiparaqesh, dioti yparxoyn kapoies politikes dynameis poy anaferontai se proqeseis apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs, se ayton ton tomea, kati to opoio fysika kai den mporei na ginei apodekto. Kai qelw na sas qymisw oti eidika to qema twn Trapezwn -epeidh anaferontai orismenoi- efqase sth Dikaiosynh, h opoia exei ekdwsei apallaktiko boyleyma. To qema gia thn eyqynh Trapezwn dhmosioy endiaferontos, gyrw apo to zhthma toy Xrhmatisthrioy to eixan qesei boyleytes ths N.D., metajy twn opoiwn kai o k. Ebert. Exei bgei apallaktiko boyleyma gi` ayto. As mh metaxeirizomaste, loipon, ayto to pragmatika megalo kai shmantiko qema ws stoixeio kommatikoy antagwnismoy, alla as koitajoyme na synergastoyme gia na peisoyme ton polith oti dhmioyrgoyme ena swsto plaisio kai oti den qa exoyme pote allote problhmata.

MIXAHL: Epitrecte moy na qesw ena politiko, kata thn ektimhsh moy erwthma, kai na sas zhthsw na sxoliasete, ean bebaiws to epiqymeite, thn ejhs ektimhsh h opoia kykloforei, eite ypo morfh sxoliwn dhmosieymatwn, eite sthn perirreoysa politikh atmosfaira: Oti, dhladh, oi kataggelies toy k. Koyrh gia sas proswpika kai ta alla stelexh toy PASOK, akomh kai an den apodeixqei sth Dikaiosynh tipota, qa exoyn afhsei arnhtikes entypwseis sto xwro toy PASOK kai taytoxrona to gegonos oti o k. Kyrtsos sto biblio toy kanei sygkekrimenes anafores gia sxeseis ths hgesias ths N.D. me sygkekrimenoys epixeirhmaties, epishs diamorfwnei mia allh tetoia eikona. Kai synepws, olh ayth h eikona einai mia eikona toy politikoy systhmatos poy balletai. Ektimate kati tetoio; Qelete na to sxoliasete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den pisteyw oti prepei na sxoliazoyme etsi ta pragmata. Bebaiws, yparxoyn merikoi stoys opoioys -opws fainetai- aresoyn oi didaxes toy Gkempels "lege, lege, sto telos kati qa meinei". Ayto einai para poly gnwsto. Kai otan eisai sthn politikh, eisai etoimos na antimetwpiseis kai tetoies logikes. Antilhceis peri syllogikhs eyqynhs kai alles tetoies antilhceis piqanon na yparxoyn kai yparxoyn, oxi mono se enan, alla se arketoys. Den anaferomai eidika, alla genika sthn politikh. Piqano na yparxoyn stoys diaforoys xwroys gkempelikes logikes. Den mporei na to apokleisei kaneis ayto. Emeis, ws politikoi, prepei na eimaste pantote etoimoi na yfistameqa kai tetoies epiqeseis kai na yparxei h aparaithth cyxraimia, wste kai na apantas kai na enhmerwneis ton ellhniko lao. Alla, ayto poy kanoyme edw einai na enhmerwnoyme kai na apantoyme gia to kybernhtiko ergo. Mexris ekei. Na eiste bebaios oti se oles aytes tis periptwseis yparxei h alhqeia, h opoia kapoia stigmh anadeiknyetai.

TAKHS: Mias kai anaferqhkate xqes sthn INTERSAT...

PRWTOPAPAS: Epitrecete moy na sas pw me aformh thn erwthsh gia ton sygkekrimeno epixeirhmatia oti to ESR (poy bebaiws einai anejarthth arxh, alla to anaferw ws gegonos) exei afairesei apo ayton ton epixeirhmatia thn adeia ths chfiakhs thleorashs. Kai den to ekane twra, alla edw kai arketo kairo.

TAKHS: Se ayto hqela na sas rwthsw: Xqes, o Proedros ths Boylhs k. Kaklamanhs, otan o k. Qwmadakhs toy eipe oti apo to 1999 kai meta arxisan na epiballontai poines ston k. Mpatatoydh, anarwthqhke pws einai dynaton, afoy apo to 1999 arxise mia diadikasia poinwn kai diagnwsews parabasewn, na toy exei doqei adeia chfiakhs platformas. Kai to rwtw giati anarwthqhke o Proedros ths Boylhs kai o k. Qwmadakhs toy apanthse oti ``den toy th dwsame emeis, alloi toy thn edwsan'' !

PRWTOPAPAS: Prepei na gyrisoyme polla xronia pisw kai na doyme to qema twn adeiwn ths chfiakhs platformas poy den einai twrino. Nomizw oti einai apo to 1999. Se kaqe periptwsh, prepei na pw to ejhs: Opws gnwrizete yphrxan eniaioi kanones, me bash toys opoioys doqhkan oi adeies stis chfiakes platformes.. Me bash aytoys toys kanones eixan doqei -ean den kanw laqos- treis adeies chfiakhs platformas. Sth NOVA, thn INTERSAT kai ton ALPHA. Shmera exei meinei mono mia chfiakh platforma. O ALPHA kateqese thn adeia toy (kai bebaia ton kalese kai to ESR na thn kataqesei), enw apo thn INTERSAT afaireqhke, me apofash toy ESR. Epomenws, h Politeia, ypo thn eyryterh ennoia ths (giati to ESR einai anejarthth arxh, den einai kybernhtiko organo, einai organo ths politeias) askhse plhrws to kaqhkon ths, prokeimenoy na kaqarisei to topio, sth leitoyrgia poy afora tis chfiakes platformes. Kai ayto perimenw na to epishmanete.

TAKHS: Egw sas lew ti eipe o Proedros ths Boylhs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Poly kala eipe o Proedros ths Boylhs. To qema einai oti yphrxe tote enas eniaios tropos, mia sygkekrimenh nomoqesia, basei ths opoias didontan oi chfiakes platformes. H tote nomoqesia proeblepe otan ypobaleis mia aithsh kai plhrois kapoies proypoqeseis, mporeis na pareis chfiakh platforma. Ayto proeblepe h nomoqesia kai etsi -apolytws nomima- leitoyrghsan tote oi arxes. Apo kei kai pera, otan diapistwqhke, kai den einai twrino, exei prohghqei ayth h apofash kai einai eytyxhma oti exei prohghqei, dioti deixnei oti leitoyrgoyme kai leitoyrgoyme kala, oti o men ALPHA proebh stis anakoinwseis toy (kai to eipan kaqara), h de INTERSAT den proebh se leitoyrgia ths epixeirhshs, hrqe tote to ESR -bebaiws enhmerwqhkame ki emeis, afoy mas stelnei tis apofaseis toy- kai toy afairese thn adeia. Pisteyw oti einai mia poly swsth apofash, h opoia deixnei oti yparxei elegxos, yparxei parakoloyqhsh kai yparxei prospaqeia ejygianshs toy radiothleoptikoy topioy. Kai ayto prepei na to anagnwrisete.

TAKHS: Yparxei shmera sthn efhmerida ``KAQHMERINH'' ena dhmosieyma poy anaferetai se kapoio oryxeio, to opoio ekleise Ypoyrgos, gia na mh dei na dhmosieyetai pali sthn ``AYRIANH'' prwtoselido. Exete kati ep` aytoy; Kai poios einai o ypoyrgos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws exw. Prin apo ligo ekdoqhke anakoinwsh toy yfypoyrgoy Anaptyjhs Alejandroy Kalafath, thn opoia elaba molis twra kai qa sas th dianeimw. Symfwna me thn anakoinwsh ayth, o k. Kalafaths mas enhmerwnei oti den einai idiokthths h synidiokthths kanenos oryxeioy kai oydepote drasthriopoihqhke se tetoioy eidoys epixeirhseis. Ayto leei oti to dhlwnei kai sth forologikh toy dhlwsh kai sto ``poqen esxes''. To oryxeio, to opoio anaferetai sto dhmosieyma, anhkei ston aderfo toy kai leitoyrgei 70 xronia kai malista entos zwnhs oikistikoy elegxoy. Exei adeia leitoyrgias gia 15 xronia, apo to 1993 ews to 2008. Otan h etaireia ayth ypebale pros egkrish meleth periballontikwn epiptwsewn kai den enekriqh h meleth apo to YPEXWDE, koinopoihqhke stis 11 Aprilioy h mh egkrish, h aporrich, dhladh, ths meleths sto ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs kai stis 17 Aprilioy, dhladh, molis se eji hmeres, to ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs hre thn adeia leitoyrgias ths etaireias. Topoqetoymai epeidh to qema afora kybernhtikh drasthriothta. Exw pei oti qa topoqetoymai mono se aytes tis periptwseis. Ara, to ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs exei leitoyrghsei apolyta swsta. Oxi mono den exei adranhsei, alla exei energhsei amesa otan hrqe h eishghsh twn armodiwn forewn. Kai poioi htan oi armodioi foreis; Htan to YPEXWDE, to opoio den enekrine th meleth twn periballontikwn epiptwsewn. Eipe, dhladh, oti to sygkekrimeno oryxeio den mporei na leitoyrghsei, dioti qa exei dysarestes epiptwseis sto periballon kai h Nomarxiakh Aytodioikhsh Kefalonias, h opoia stis 15 Aprilioy proteine, pros to ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs, thn proswrinh paysh leitoyrgias toy oryxeioy. Me bash thn aporrich toy YPEXWDE kai thn eishghsh ths Nomarxiakhs Aytodioikhshs Kefalonias, to ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs kai o k. Kalafaths proswpika hran thn adeia leitoyrgias toy oryxeioy. Mesa se eji hmeres. Apolyta swsth h parembash, egkairh, tekmhriwmenh, symfwna me tis eishghseis twn armodiwn arxwn.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Ean symfwneite mazi moy, oi ejelijeis gia to Kypriako proxwroyn me gorga bhmata. Meqayrio, thn Paraskeyh erxetai sthn Kypro o k. Erntogan. Fainetai oti qa proteinei metra epanaproseggishs, epistrofh kapoioy meroys ths Ammoxwstoy, efoson h ellhnokypriakh kybernhsh arei to oikonomiko empargko. O k. Ntenktas anakoinwnei lista ``anepiqymhtwn'' agwnistwn ths EOKA 55-59, oi opoioi mpainoyn sta katexomena. Yparxei mia katastash politikwn zymwsewn sthn Kypro kai h kypriakh kybernhsh men krata mia amyntikh qesh se ola ayta ta zhthmata, enw h antipoliteysh epimenei na odhghqoyme sta Hnwmena Eqnh kai na paijei pleon to rolo toy o k. Anan. Poia einai h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs se aytes tis ejelijeis, gia na bgoyme apo ta adiejodo, giati ayth th stigmh eimaste egklwbismenoi. Gi ayto h antipoliteysh epimenei na paei to qema ston OHE, twra.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eimaste egklwbismenoi, alla na eiste bebaios oti parakoloyqoyme apo poly konta thn katastash. To ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn brisketai se diarkh epikoinwnia me thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia. Otan xreiastei na kanoyme energeies qa tis kanoyme kai qa tis plhroforhqeite. Parakoloyqoyme ek toy syneggys thn olh katastash me th gnwsth qesh mas, h opoia den exei allajei. To Kypriako qa lyqei sto plaisio toy OHE. Lysh toy Kypriakoy shmainei eniaio kratos, eniaia kyriarxia, o,ti exoyme pei.

POYLIDOY: Qa hqela na rwthsw ean blepete ki eseis th skopimothta proklhshs, energopoihshs toy endiaferontos toy OHE, enocei toy kindynoy ekfylismoy ths diadikasias ayths poy dienergeitai shmera.

PRWTOPAPAS: Xreiazetai, bebaia, se ayta ta zhthmata -epeidh einai lepta zhthmata ejwterikhs politikhs- na yparxoyn oi anagkaies synennohseis. Parakoloyqoyme apo poly konta thn katastash kai meletoyme tis kinhseis mas se plhrh synennohsh me thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia. Otan exoyme na anakoinwsoyme kati sygkekrimeno, qa sas to poyme.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Sas eipa oti o Erntogan phgainei thn Paraskeyh sta katexomena. Qa ejaggeilei endexomenws kapoia zhthmata. Orismena apo ayta exoyn dei to fws ths dhmosiothtas...

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa yparjei topoqethsh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Apo esas h apo thn kypriakh kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat arxas prepei na ginei apo thn kypriakh kybernhsh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Rwtw, ti qa kanei h ellhnikh kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh kineitai panta se synennohsh me thn kypriakh kybernhsh. Mhn anhsyxeite, yparxei stenh synergasia.

Sas eyxaristw.

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